STATE OF NEW JERSEY VS. QUIASIA N. CARROLL (W-2018-005075-0408, CAMDEN COUNTY AND STATEWIDE) (RECORD IMPOUNDED) ( 2018 )


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  •                        RECORD IMPOUNDED
    NOT FOR PUBLICATION WITHOUT THE
    APPROVAL OF THE APPELLATE DIVISION
    SUPERIOR COURT OF NEW JERSEY
    APPELLATE DIVISION
    DOCKET NO. A-0152-18T6
    STATE OF NEW JERSEY,
    Plaintiff-Respondent,               APPROVED FOR PUBLICATION
    November 8, 2018
    v.
    APPELLATE DIVISION
    QUIASIA N. CARROLL,
    Defendant-Appellant.
    ___________________________________
    Submitted October 15, 2018 – Decided November 8, 2018
    Before Judges Koblitz, Ostrer and Mayer.
    On appeal from Superior Court of New Jersey, Law
    Division, Camden County, Complaint No. W-2018-
    005075-0408.
    Joseph E. Krakora, Public Defender, attorney for
    appellant (M. Edward Rivas, Assistant Deputy Public
    Defender, of counsel and on the brief).
    Mary Eva Colalillo, Camden County Prosecutor,
    attorney for respondent (Kevin J. Hein, Assistant
    Prosecutor, of counsel and on the brief).
    The opinion of the court was delivered by
    OSTRER, J.A.D.
    Defendant Quiasia N. Carroll appeals from the trial court's order
    detaining her on charges of fourth-degree cyber-harassment, N.J.S.A. 2C:33-
    4.1(a)(2), and second-degree retaliation against a witness, N.J.S.A. 2C:28-5(b),
    as set forth in complaint-warrant W-2018-005075-0408. Because we disagree
    with the trial court's finding of probable cause as to the former charge, and
    discern significant legal impediments to successful prosecution of the latter
    one, we reverse, and remand for reconsideration.
    I.
    The charges relate to four posts that defendant allegedly made on a
    Facebook page assigned to a person with the user ID, Klo Klό. For purposes
    of our discussion, we will assume that defendant is Klo Klό.           The posts
    coincided with and followed the June 21, 2018, conviction of Tyhan Brown,
    who was charged with murder of a child and the attempted murder of an adult. 1
    The State alleges that defendant's posts referred to a prosecution witness at
    Brown's trial.
    In the first post, made on the day of Brown's conviction and
    accompanied by the witness's photo, the comments were, at least in part,
    addressed to the witness. In coarse language and slang, defendant called the
    1
    The record does not reflect the specifics of the jury's verdict.
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    witness a "rat," and criticized him for lying in return for remuneration, and for
    being untrustworthy: 2
    lying ass RAT ass nigga! fuck you! I swear I use to
    tell butt & jo all the time don't trust this nigga! how tf
    (the fuck) you go against ya mans for some chump
    change!! I'll never respect you!
    The next day, defendant posted three more comments, each evidently
    addressed to the public generally, although we may presume the witness
    viewed them as well. In the first, along with the witness's photo, the poster
    identified the witness by name and nickname. The comment stated:
    PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCENT RAT ALERT
    THIS ONE OF THE SCARIEST THINGS EVER
    THIS NIGGA HOLD GUNS & RUN TO THE COPS
    NEVER KNOW WHAT HE GOT UP HIS SLEEVE
    NEXT STAY AWAY FROM THIS RATATOUILLE
    MICKEY MOUSE STUART LITTLE ASS NIGGA
    TELL A FRIEND TO TELL A FRIEND [name
    deleted] AKA SNITCHOS I MEAN [nickname
    deleted] IS A FUCKING RATTTTTT CHECK HIS
    SHIRT & HIS PANTS I THINK HE WIRED.
    Also that day, defendant posted a photo of two uniformed Camden
    County Metro Police Officers talking, as they stood in front of an unidentified
    person in the street. She added the comment: "[nickname deleted] really
    2
    We reproduce the posts exactly as presented in the affidavit of probable
    cause, except, in the exercise of caution, we have deleted the witness's name
    and nickname.
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    friends w all the cops" – referring to the witness by what the State alleges is
    another one of his nicknames.
    In the final posting, defendant commented:
    [Nickname deleted] just living his life like it's golden
    posting pictures & shit w glasses on like he cool BOY
    YOU A FUCKING RAT! ! ! hope somebody blow
    them glasses tf (the fuck) off his face
    The State alleges that Facebook made it aware of the posts on August
    13, 2018. The witness allegedly asked defendant to remove the posts and she
    refused. The State alleges that the witness feared for his safety and left his
    home. Defendant was arrested on August 29, 2018. Incident to her arrest,
    officers allegedly seized drugs on her person, which led to multiple third -
    degree possession and possession-with-intent-to-distribute charges, and
    second-degree within-500-feet-of-public-property charges, as set forth in
    complaint-warrant W-2018-005372-0408.            See N.J.S.A. 2C:35-10(a)(1);
    N.J.S.A. 2C:35-5(b)(3); N.J.S.A. 2C:35-7.1(a).
    II.
    The State sought defendant's detention on the retaliation and cyber-
    harassment charges. The Public Safety Assessment (PSA) stated that, at the
    time of her arrest, defendant had two pending charges for the disorderly
    persons offense of hindering, N.J.S.A. 2C:29-3(b)(4), dating from February
    and September 2016. Her sole prior conviction, in January 2016, was for a
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    March 2015 disorderly persons shoplifting offense. Defendant failed to appear
    in court four times, in 2015 and 2016, in connection with the hindering and
    shoplifting charges. According to a certified driver abstract, defendant also
    failed to appear in connection with motor vehicle matters three times in 2016
    and once in 2018; and her driver's license was suspended through May 2021.
    Pretrial Services recommended no release based on an elevated risk
    score. Defendant scored six on the failure-to-appear scale, and four on the
    new-criminal-activity scale. The PSA did not include a flag for new violent
    criminal activity. 3
    Defense counsel contended that defendant's Facebook posts were
    protected speech under the First Amendment. Counsel questioned whether
    defendant committed an "unlawful act," which is an element of the retaliation
    offense. Counsel also argued that the Facebook posts did not include "lewd,
    indecent, or obscene" statements, an essential element of the cyber-harassment
    offense charged.
    The State responded that the "unlawful act" in the retaliation offense was
    "making communications which include threats of force via social media."
    3
    The PSA erroneously included the retaliation and cyber-harassment charges
    as "pending charge[s] at the time of offense." See Public Safety Assessment,
    New Jersey Risk Factor Definitions 3 (Mar. 2018). However, we understand
    that error did not affect the scores, inasmuch as defendant had the other
    pending hindering charges.
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    The prosecutor did not specifically address the defense argument regarding the
    "lewd, indecent, or obscene" element of cyber-harassment. The prosecutor
    also asserted that the communications were made during and after the trial,
    although the affidavit of probable cause asserted that the communications were
    made on the day of conviction and the next day.
    Although the trial court released defendant on Level Three monitoring
    on the drug-related complaint, the court detained her, upon the State's motion,
    on the retaliation and cyber-harassment complaint. The court found probable
    cause that defendant committed the charged offenses.        In support of its
    probable cause finding, the court cited the complaint-warrant and affidavit of
    probable cause.4 The court specifically rejected defendant's First Amendment
    argument, concluding that the Facebook posts did not fall within protected
    speech.   The court did not address the defense argument that defendant's
    statements were not lewd, indecent, or obscene.
    The court found by clear and convincing evidence that no amount of
    monetary bail, non-monetary conditions, or combination of the two would
    reasonably assure: defendant's appearance in court when required; the
    4
    The court also cited the PSA and the defendant's driver abstract, although
    their connection to a probable cause finding is unclear.
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    protection of the safety of any other person or the community; and that the
    defendant will not obstruct or attempt to obstruct the criminal justice process.
    As for the reasons for detention, the court cited: (1) the offenses
    charged; (2) the weight of evidence against defendant, "to wit, the Facebook
    postings"; (3) defendant's history and characteristics, including her record
    concerning appearance at court proceedings; (4) "the nature and seriousness of
    the danger to any other person or the community should this defendant be
    released," adding a reference to the drug charges; (5) "the nature and
    seriousness of the risk of obstructing or attempting to obstruct the criminal
    justice process that would be posed by the defendant's release," noting
    "potential for witness intimidation Facebook threats – retaliation and cyber
    harassment during homicide trial"; and (6) Pretrial Services' recommendation
    of no release, noting the risk scores for failure to appear and new criminal
    activity.
    The court added the following additional reasons:
    This murder case had gang mentions and the key
    witness was actually relocated to another state based
    upon fears of retaliation – the statements were not
    read into the record based upon their nature but were
    specifically included in the court's determination as a
    clear threat to the witness or others involved in the
    homicide case.
    On appeal, defendant presents the following points:
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    I.  THE FACTS AS ALLEGED FAILED TO
    ESTABLISH PROBABLE CAUSE THAT THE
    DEFENDANT HARMED ANYONE BY AN
    UNLAWFUL ACT AND NEITHER WAS FORCE
    EVER THREATENED BY THE DEFENDANT AS
    REQUIRED BY THE RETALIATION STATUTE.
    NEITHER DO THE FACTS ALLEGE THAT POSTS
    OF A LEWD, INDECENT, OR OBSCENE
    MATERIAL WERE POSTED AS 2C:33-4.1a(2)
    REQUIRE.
    II.  EVEN IF THE COURT FOUND PROBABLE
    CAUSE, BECAUSE MS. CARROLL WAS NOT
    CHARGED WITH MURDER NOR AN OFFENSE
    WITH A PO[SS]IBLE LI[]FE SENTENCE, HAD NO
    INDICTABLE CONVICTIONS, NO VIOLENT
    CONVICTIONS, NO FINAL DV REST[R]AINING
    ORDERS,   HAD    NO     PENDING   VIOLENT
    CHARGES, NO JAIL SENTENCES, NO JUVENILE
    RECORD, AND WAS NOT ON PROBATION OR
    PAROLE THERE WERE CONDITIONS WHICH
    COULD HAVE REASONABLY ASSURED THE
    COURT OF THE GOALS OF THE CJRA AND THE
    COURT SHOULD HAVE FOUND THAT THE
    STATE FAILED TO REBUT THE PRESUMPTION
    OF RELEASE.
    Defendant renews her arguments that probable cause was not established, and
    her statements were protected by the First Amendment.
    III.
    We review the trial court's decision to detain a defendant for an abuse of
    discretion. State v. S.N., 
    231 N.J. 497
    , 515 (2018). We consider whether the
    trial court rested its decision on an impermissible basis, or failed to consider
    relevant factors. 
    Ibid.
     We are not obliged to defer to "a decision based upon a
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    misconception of the law." 
    Ibid.
     (quoting State v. C.W., 
    449 N.J. Super. 231
    ,
    255 (App. Div. 2017)). We consider de novo issues of law such as statutory
    interpretation. State v. Pinkston, 
    233 N.J. 495
    , 507 (2018); S.N., 231 N.J. at
    515.    In particular, we are obliged to independently examine whether
    defendant's speech is protected by the First Amendment. See Hurley v. Irish-
    Am. Gay, Lesbian & Bisexual Grp. of Boston, 
    515 U.S. 557
    , 567 (1995)
    (identifying appellate court's "constitutional duty to conduct an independent
    examination of the record as whole, without deference to the trial court" in
    reviewing claim of protected speech).
    Applying that standard, we conclude that the trial court misconceived
    the strength of defendant's legal challenge to the complaint.     Defendant's
    arguments pertain to whether the State has established probable cause that
    defendant committed the predicate offenses, which is "a prerequisite to
    extended restraint of liberty." State v. Ingram, 
    230 N.J. 190
    , 202, 206 (2017)
    (quoting Gerstein v. Pugh, 
    420 U.S. 103
    , 114 (1975)); N.J.S.A. 2A:162-
    19(e)(2); R. 3:4A(b)(2).   "[I]f . . . the State does not meet its burden of
    showing probable cause, the defendant must be released . . . ."       State v.
    Dickerson, 
    232 N.J. 2
    , 23 (2018).
    "To demonstrate probable cause, the State must show the police had a
    'well grounded suspicion that a crime ha[d] been committed,' and that the
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    defendant committed the offense." Ingram, 230 N.J. at 213 (quoting State v.
    Gibson, 
    218 N.J. 277
    , 292 (2014)). The State need produce "'more than a mere
    suspicion of guilt,' but 'less evidence than is needed to convict at trial.'" Id. at
    213-14 (quoting Gibson, 218 N.J. at 292; then quoting State v. Brown, 
    205 N.J. 133
    , 144 (2011)).      "[P]robable cause requires only a probability or
    substantial chance of criminal activity, not an actual showing of such activity."
    Pinkston, 233 N.J. at 509 (quoting Illinois v. Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    , 243 n.13
    (1983)).
    Defendant's argument also addresses the "weight of the evidence against
    the eligible defendant," which is a factor in the pretrial detention decision.
    N.J.S.A. 2A:162-20(b). The "weight of the evidence" factor is another way of
    evaluating "the strength of the government's case." See State v. Stewart, 
    453 N.J. Super. 55
    , 70 (App. Div. 2018) (citing 
    18 U.S.C. § 3142
    (g)(1) and (2)).
    The weight of the evidence factor is important because it reflects upon whether
    a person is likely to appear, or to pose a danger to a person or the community.
    See United States v. Motamedi, 
    767 F.2d 1403
    , 1408 (9th Cir. 1985)
    (interpreting analogous "weight of the evidence factor" under federal law, 
    18 U.S.C. § 3142
    (g)). Assuming there is probable cause to believe a defendant
    committed the offense, if the weight of the evidence is weak, then the
    defendant may be more willing to put the State to the test of a trial, reducing
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    the risk of a failure to appear. See State v. Engel, 
    99 N.J. 453
    , 460 (1985)
    (noting that a "fair likelihood" of conviction increases the "urge to abscond")
    (quoting State v. Konigsberg, 
    33 N.J. 367
    , 377 (1960)).
    Also, if the weight of the evidence is weak, then a court may conclude it
    is less likely a defendant actually committed the offense. That would allow a
    court to conclude it less likely that the defendant would, if released, pose a
    danger to the community – assuming the offense involved harm to the
    community – or pose a threat to the integrity of the criminal justice process –
    assuming the offense implicated interference with that process. See United
    States v. Taylor, 
    289 F. Supp. 3d 55
    , 64-69 (D.D.C. 2018) (discussing impact
    of "weight of the evidence" factor in detention hearing under 
    18 U.S.C. § 3142
    (g)(2)).
    Whether the State established probable cause necessarily implicates
    whether defendant's alleged statements alone constitute a crime, since the State
    has presented no context for the statements, except that they pertained to a
    State witness at a homicide trial involving an alleged gang member.
    Defendant raises statutory and constitutional arguments that the State has n ot
    demonstrated probable cause.
    Turning first to the statutory contentions, defendant contends the alleged
    facts do not match the elements of the charged offenses.         The State has
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    charged defendant with cyber-harassment under N.J.S.A. 2C:33-4.1(a)(2). The
    offense includes, as an essential element, the posting of "lewd, indecent, or
    obscene material." 
    Ibid.
     The statute declares a person guilty of fourth-degree
    cyber-harassment:
    if, while making a communication in an online
    capacity via any electronic device or through a social
    networking site and with the purpose to harass
    another, the person . . . knowingly sends, posts,
    comments, requests, suggests, or proposes any lewd,
    indecent, or obscene material to or about a person with
    the intent to emotionally harm a reasonable person or
    place a reasonable person in fear of physical or
    emotional harm to his person
    [Ibid. (emphasis added).]
    The Facebook posts were indisputably coarse and insulting. But, it is difficult
    to discern how they constitute "lewd, indecent, or obscene material." Notably,
    the complaint cited N.J.S.A. 2C:33-4.1(a)(2), but omits any reference to the
    "lewd, indecent, or obscene material" element of the offense.         In its brief
    opposing defendant's appeal, the State asserts only that defendant's posts were
    "indecent," apparently conceding that they were neither lewd nor obscene.
    The Criminal Code does not define "indecent." 5 However, the term is
    generally associated with nudity or sexuality, as our cases on indecent
    5
    By contrast, the Code separately defines the offense of lewdness, N.J.S.A.
    2C:14-4, and obscene material, N.J.S.A. 2C:34-3(a)(1).
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    exposure have discussed. See, e.g., State v. Vogt, 
    341 N.J. Super. 407
    , 416
    (App. Div. 2001); Borough of Belmar v. Buckley, 
    187 N.J. Super. 107
    , 113
    (App. Div. 1982).      Chapter 34 of the Criminal Code is entitled "Public
    Indecency" and includes prohibitions on prostitution, obscenity, sexually
    oriented businesses, and related crimes. See N.J.S.A. 2C:34-1 to -7.
    In sum, since "indecent" is associated with nudity or sexuality – neither
    of which appear in defendant's posts – we find not even a well-grounded
    suspicion that defendant committed cyber-harassment under N.J.S.A. 2C:33-
    4.1(a)(2).6 Therefore, the trial court erred in finding probable cause for the
    cyber-harassment charge.
    Turning to the retaliation charge, the State alleges that defendant has
    "harm[ed] another by an unlawful act with purpose to retaliate for or on
    account of the service of another as a witness or informant." N.J.S.A. 2C:28 -
    5(b).      The complaint alleges that the unlawful act was "making
    6
    The State did not charge defendant with cyber-harassment by direct threats,
    either by threatening to injure or harm a person or property, or by threatening
    to commit some other crime against a person or property. See N.J.S.A. 2C:33-
    4.1(a)(1) (including, as an element of cyber-harassment, "threaten[ing] to
    inflict injury or physical harm to any person or the property of any person");
    N.J.S.A. 2C:33-4.1(a)(3) (including, as an element of cyber-harassment,
    "threaten[ing] to commit any crime against the person or the person's
    property"); see also State v. Burkert, 
    231 N.J. 257
    , 274 (2017) (stating that
    "[t]he cyber-harassment statute limits the criminalization of speech mostly to
    those communications that threaten to cause physical or emotional harm or
    damage").
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    communications including threats of force via social media." The threat of
    force raises the crime to the second-degree.       
    Ibid.
       We assume, without
    deciding, the "threat of force" element may be satisfied, even if the speaker
    does not intend to carry it out personally or to have someone carry it out for
    the speaker.
    However, the State does not identify a Criminal Code provision that
    would render the alleged "threats of force" an "unlawful act." The State does
    not contend that the predicate "unlawful act" is the alleged cyber-harassment,
    which, in any event, we have concluded lacks probable cause. Since we must
    narrowly construe a provision that criminalizes expressive activity, see State v.
    Burkert, 
    231 N.J. 257
    , 277 (2017), we presume the State will ultimately need
    to identify the statute that renders the threat of force unlawful. Compare State
    v. Robinson, 
    289 N.J. Super. 447
    , 454-55 (App. Div. 1996) (stating that a jury
    need not identify which offense a burglar had the "purpose to commit . . .
    therein," N.J.S.A. 2C:18-2(a), upon unlicensed entry where the burglar's intent
    was not at issue), with State v. Jenkins, 
    234 N.J. Super. 311
    , 315-16 (App.
    Div. 1989) (stating that in a prosecution under N.J.S.A. 2C:39-4(a), a court
    must instruct a jury as to the possible unlawful purposes for which a defendant
    possessed a firearm where possession may also have been for a lawful
    purpose).
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    Since the elements of retaliation include both "an unlawful act" and a
    "purpose to retaliate," N.J.S.A. 2C:28-5(b), in order to establish that the
    alleged "threat of force" constitutes an unlawful act, the State will need to
    prove that defendant acted with more than simply a "purpose to retaliate." For
    example, to render the posts unlawful as a terroristic threat, the State would
    have to prove defendant intended to terrorize or recklessly disregarded the risk
    of causing terror, N.J.S.A. 2C:12-3(a).7 Similarly, to claim the posts were
    unlawful harassment, which includes threatening to strike, kick, shove or other
    offensive touching, the State would need to prove a "purpose to harass,"
    N.J.S.A. 2C:33-4(b).    By contrast, if the threat of force were made only
    negligently, without the intent (or reckless disregard) that the witness take it
    seriously, then it would not be an unlawful act under either of those two
    provisions.
    Moreover, to establish defendant engaged in an unlawful act, the State
    must show her posts are not protected by the First Amendment. "Speech . . .
    cannot be transformed into criminal conduct merely because it annoys,
    disturbs, or arouses contempt."      Burkert, 231 N.J. at 281.      "The First
    Amendment protects offensive discourse, hateful ideas, and crude language
    7
    As discussed below, the Constitution may require a higher mens rea than
    recklessness.
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    because freedom of expression needs breathing room and in the long run leads
    to a more enlightened society." Ibid. The State may not criminalize a person's
    speech simply because it espouses ideas with which the State disagrees. See
    ibid. The First Amendment protects the right to coerce action by "'threats' of
    vilification or social ostracism." NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 
    458 U.S. 886
    , 926 (1982).
    "[C]ontent-based restrictions on speech have been permitted, as a
    general matter, only when confined to the few 'historic and traditional
    categories [of expression] long familiar to the bar.'" United States v. Alvarez,
    
    567 U.S. 709
    , 717 (2012) (quoting United States v. Stevens, 
    559 U.S. 460
    , 468
    (2010)). Included among these are "true threats" and "advocacy intended, and
    likely, to incite imminent lawless action." Id. at 718; see also Watts v. United
    States, 
    394 U.S. 705
    , 708 (1969) (stating the First Amendment does not protect
    "true threats"); Brandenburg v. Ohio, 
    395 U.S. 444
    , 447 (1969) (stating the
    First Amendment does not protect speech to incite imminent acts of violence);
    Burkert, 231 N.J. at 281 (stating that the First Amendment does not bar
    criminalizing "speech that physically threatens or terrorizes another, or speech
    that is intended to incite imminent unlawful conduct").
    A "true threat" includes "statements where the speaker means to
    communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful
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    violence to a particular individual or group of individuals." Virginia v. Black,
    
    538 U.S. 343
    , 359 (2003). The First Amendment does not cover true threats so
    as "to protect[] individuals from the fear of violence and from the disruption
    that fear engenders, in addition to protecting people from the possibility that
    the threatened violence will occur." 
    Id. at 360
    . By contrast, mere hyperbole,
    even "vehement, caustic, . . . unpleasantly sharp attacks" and "vituperative,
    abusive, and inexact" speech, are protected. Watts, 
    394 U.S. at 708
    .
    "Alleged threats should be considered in light of their entire factual
    context, including the surrounding events and reaction of the listeners."
    Planned Parenthood of Columbia/Willamette, Inc. v. Am. Coalition of Life
    Activists, 
    290 F.3d 1058
    , 1075 (9th Cir. 2002) (en banc) (quoting United
    States v. Orazco-Santillan, 
    903 F.2d 1262
    , 1265 (9th Cir. 1990)) (affirming
    finding that anti-abortion activists engaged in true threats against physicians
    who performed abortions); see also United States v. Kelner, 
    534 F.2d 1020
    ,
    1026 (2d Cir. 1975) (stating that true threats are "only those which according
    to their language and context convey[] a gravity of purpose and likelihood of
    execution"); United States v. Carmichael, 
    326 F. Supp. 2d 1267
    , 1281 (M.D.
    Ala. 2004) (stating the court must consider the context in which the speech is
    delivered).
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    Contextual factors include the language itself, and whether it is stated
    conditionally. 
    Ibid.
     A court must also consider:
    the reaction of the recipient of the threat and of other
    listeners; whether the threat was conditional; whether
    the threat was communicated directly to its victim;
    whether the maker of the threat had made similar
    statements to the victim in the past; and whether the
    victim had reason to believe that the maker of the
    threat had a propensity to engage in violence.
    [United States v. Dinwiddie, 
    76 F.3d 913
    , 925 (8th
    Cir. 1996) (citations omitted) (affirming conviction
    under Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of
    1994 based on true threat).]
    We would add that the forum in which the speech is delivered may also
    provide context.    In particular, use of the internet or social media may,
    depending on the circumstances, amplify the threatening nature of speech or
    attenuate it.8
    8
    Some argue that use of the internet would tend to place speech outside the
    scope of a true threat. See Planned Parenthood, 
    290 F.3d at 1099
     (Kozinsky,
    J., dissenting) (arguing posts threatening abortion providers were not true
    threats because, among other reasons, their public online nature made them
    more like "public discourse" and less like "a face-to-face confrontation, a
    telephone call, [or] a dead fish wrapped in newspaper"); Raymond T. Nimmer,
    2 Information Law § 10:78 (West, updated 2018) (arguing threats may have
    less "immediacy" on the internet). On the other hand, the breadth of the
    internet audience may increase the likelihood that particular speech will
    provoke an actor somewhere to violence, thereby causing a reasonable person
    to fear such a result. See Scott Hammack, The Internet Loophole: Why
    Threatening Speech On-line Requires a Modification of the Courts' Approach
    to True Threats and Incitement, 36 Colum. J. L. & Soc. Probs. 65, 81 (2002)
    (continued)
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    Courts disagree about whether an element of a true threat is the speaker's
    subjective intent to express a serious plan to harm, or an objective intent based
    on how a reasonable person would understand the statement. In United States
    v. Bagdasarian, 
    652 F.3d 1113
    , 1117-18 (9th Cir. 2011), the court read Black
    to require a subjective intent – whether "the speaker subjectively intend[ed]
    the speech as a threat" – as a matter of constitutional law, even if some statutes
    require, as an additional element, an objective standard addressing the
    reasonable perception of others. See also United States v. Heineman, 
    767 F.3d 970
    , 975, 979 (10th Cir. 2014) (holding that the First Amendment requires
    proof that the defendant subjectively "intended the recipient to feel threatened"
    to sustain a conviction under 
    18 U.S.C. § 875
    (c)).
    On the other hand, some courts have focused on the listener's objectively
    reasonable reaction, and have required only a speaker's subjective intent to
    communicate, as opposed to threaten.        The Eleventh Circuit held, "[T]he
    inquiry is whether . . . the defendant intentionally made the statements under
    such circumstances that a reasonable person would construe them as a serious
    expression of an intention to inflict bodily harm." United States v. Alaboud,
    (continued)
    (arguing that the internet's "ability to reach widespread audiences, rapid
    exchange of information, low cost of use, veil of anonymity, and constantly
    changing audience make threats posted on the Internet seem more dangerous
    than the same threats made in an off-line context").
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    347 F.3d 1293
    , 1296-97 (11th Cir. 2003) (quoting United States v. Callahan,
    
    702 F.2d 964
    , 965 (11th Cir. 1983)), overruled on other grounds by United
    States v. Martinez, 
    800 F.3d 1293
     (11th Cir. 2015) (per curiam). Similarly, the
    Fourth Circuit held, "[W]hile the speaker need only intend to communicate a
    statement, whether the statement amounts to a true threat is determined by the
    understanding of a reasonable recipient familiar with the context that the
    statement is a 'serious expression of an intent to do harm' to the recipient."
    United States v. White, 
    670 F.3d 498
    , 509 (4th Cir. 2012) (quoting Black, 
    538 U.S. at 359
    ), overruled on other grounds by Elonis v. United States, 575 U.S.
    ___, 
    135 S. Ct. 2001
     (2015).
    We are persuaded that both tests should apply. Consistent with Black, a
    defendant must intend to do harm by conveying a threat that would be
    believed; and the threat must be one that a reasonable listener would
    understand as real. The court in United States v. Martinez, 
    736 F.3d 981
    , 992
    (11th Cir. 2013), asserted it would be a rare case in which "speech [is]
    communicated by a speaker who 'acts with innocent intent, but negligently
    conveys a message that others [reasonably] find to be threatening.'" But, given
    the prevalence of extreme, impulsive, and unfiltered commentary on social
    media, we think it not so uncommon that a speaker may thoughtlessly post rash
    or hyperbolic statements, causing others to reasonably fear for their safety.
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    See Scott Hammack, The Internet Loophole: Why Threatening Speech On-line
    Requires a Modification of the Courts' Approach to True Threats and
    Incitement, 36 Colum. J. L. & Soc. Probs. 65, 97-98 (2002) (advocating a test
    addressing both the subjective intent of the speaker to cause fear and the
    objectively reasonable reaction of a listener to perceive a serious threat). 9
    A public statement expressly urging unspecified others to violence may
    be criminalized if it conveys the speaker's own serious intent to inflict harm –
    otherwise, it is not a threat. In White, 
    670 F.3d at 505
    , the court held that
    posts on a white supremacist website urging the assassination of a civil rights
    lawyer, whose home address it also provided, were not true threats. While
    "neither direct communication nor personal or group involvement in the threat"
    is necessary for a threat to be "true," language "clearly directed to others in the
    form of advocacy" would not be reasonably interpreted as "serious expressions
    of intent to commit harm." 
    Id. at 513-14
     (citations omitted). A true threat is a
    "serious expression of intent" to harm, not merely the expression of a "serious
    desire" that harm should befall someone. 
    Id. at 514
    . In Bagdasarian, 
    652 F.3d at 1122
    , the court held that online posts declaring then-presidential candidate
    9
    The author finds support in the trial court's opinion in Planned Parenthood of
    Columbia/Willamette, Inc. v. Am. Coalition of Life Activists, 
    41 F. Supp. 2d 1130
    , 1155 n.1 (D. Or. 1999), aff'd in part and rev'd in part, 
    290 F.3d 1058
    (9th Cir. 2002) (en banc).
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    Barack Obama “will have a 50 cal in the head soon” and calling for someone
    to shoot him did not constitute a true threat. The posts did not express an
    intent to do anything, only a prediction that something would occur and a call
    for others to act. 
    Ibid.
    A reference to the actions of others may constitute a true threat if it is
    sufficiently detailed and precise, or if the speaker has rallied followers to
    commit violence by using similar language in the past, so as to imply the
    person posting will himself either act on the threat or direct others in his
    control to do so. Compare Claiborne Hardware Co., 
    458 U.S. at 929
     (holding
    Charles Evers's promise to "break [the] damn neck" of African-Americans
    patronizing boycotted stores was not a true threat because "there [wa]s no
    evidence – apart from the speeches themselves – that Evers authorized,
    ratified, or directly threatened acts of violence," rendering his threat mere
    advocacy of violence, not expressing Evers's own intent to act), with United
    States v. Turner, 
    720 F.3d 411
    , 413 (2d Cir. 2013) (finding a gun-rights
    activist conveyed a true threat when he stated on-line that certain judges failed
    to "take the hint" from an activist's murder of another judge's family); United
    States v. Wheeler, 
    776 F.3d 736
    , 746 (10th Cir. 2015) (holding a post urging
    "religious followers" to kill certain identified police officers was a true threat
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    because a reasonable person would interpret it as expressing an intent to direct
    others in the speaker's control to commit violence).
    Besides true threats, the First Amendment does not protect speech that
    "is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to
    incite or produce such action." Brandenburg, 
    395 U.S. at 447
    . In contrast to a
    true threat, which conveys the speaker's own intent either to perpetrate
    violence or to use his authority to direct others to do so, inciting words exhort
    others to do violence without signaling the speaker's intent to act.           See
    Wheeler, 776 F.3d at 744-45 (noting that "the line between threats and
    incitement, especially in cyberspace" may be blurred).          Because merely
    advocating violence is protected, only immediate danger, coupled with the
    speaker's intent to cause such danger, will remove inciting speech from the
    First Amendment's protection. Brandenburg, 
    395 U.S. at 447
    .
    For example, a person may be convicted for urging protestors at an
    angry demonstration to "get the cop, get the cop," inciting them to attack a
    police officer who was attempting to arrest another protestor. State v. Hopson,
    
    119 N.J. Super. 84
    , 85, 89 (App. Div. 1972).           However, absent such an
    imminent response, exhorting others to violence is constitutionally protected.
    Brandenburg, 
    395 U.S. at 448-49
    .
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    Where a call to others to act neither conveys a plan to act nor is likely to
    produce imminent danger, it may not be criminalized, despite its unsettling
    message.   In Carmichael, 
    326 F. Supp. 2d at 1290
    , the court rejected the
    government's argument that a defendant's website presented both a true threat
    and an incitement to violence. The defendant, charged with drug conspiracy
    and money laundering offenses, identified various persons as "informants" and
    "agents," included their photographs, and asked the public for information
    about them.    Although the format of the website went through various
    iterations, at one point, the website included the word "Wanted" in large block
    red letters, below which appeared the words "Information on these Informants
    and Agents." 
    Id. at 1272
    . Eventually, the website included a proviso that the
    website was not intended "to intimidate or harass any informants or agents, but
    is simply an attempt to seek information." 
    Ibid.
    Focusing on the website's plain language, the court denied the
    government's request to compel the website's removal.                 The court
    distinguished "wanted" posters in other cases that were found to be
    unprotected, because Carmichael's website did not reference killing, execution
    or blood, and included no epithets. 
    Id. at 1281-82
    . Considering context, the
    court noted that "the general history of informants being killed in drug
    conspiracy cases" was not enough to convert the website itself into a true
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    threat. 
    Id. at 1285
    . The court also rejected the argument that the website
    should be shut down for encouraging others to harm the witnesses or agents,
    holding the website fell short of the stringent test under Brandenburg and
    Claiborne. 
    Id. at 1287-88
    .
    Applying these principles, we doubt that the present record could
    support a conviction for retaliation, because the posts may be protected by the
    First Amendment as mere spiteful venting – not true threats or incitement.
    Nonetheless, at this stage the State need not prove defendant's guilt. As a
    threshold showing to detain defendant, the State need only show probable
    cause, that is, a "substantial chance of criminality," Pinkston, 233 N.J. at 509
    (quoting Gates, 
    462 U.S. at
    243 n.13). Given the proofs required to meet that
    less demanding burden, we are constrained to affirm the trial court's
    determination that there is probable cause to charge defendant with retaliation.
    There is a "substantial chance" or a "well-grounded suspicion" that
    defendant intended the witness to believe that someone might respond to
    defendant's posts by blowing off his glasses or otherwise assaulting him.
    There is a history of retaliation or intimidation of witnesses against
    participants in gangs and organized crime. Unlike in Carmichael, defendant
    heaped epithets upon the witness and she also referred to an act of violence
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    against him. She circulated her statements to an apparently broad audience.
    All it would take is one person to be moved to action against the witness.
    These factors are sufficient to raise the charge of retaliation to the low
    threshold of probable cause. While the State failed to identify the statute
    rendering defendant's alleged "threat of force" "an unlawful act," the record
    supports a finding of probable cause that defendant intended either to terrorize,
    N.J.S.A. 2C:12-3(a), or to harass, N.J.S.A. 2C:33-4(b). The same evidence
    also shows there is a "substantial chance" the posts are true threats and
    therefore unprotected.
    However, the weight of the evidence of a true threat or incitement is
    weak. Defendant did not explicitly threaten to harm or exert force against the
    witness. Rather, she expressed disdain for the witness because he was a "rat"
    who, she contended, lied for "chump change." Her expressed goal was to
    socially ostracize the witness by warning people to steer clear of him.
    Defendant may not have hoped someone would literally "blow" the witness's
    glasses off his face, any more than someone hopes another person will literally
    rot in hell. Moreover, expressing a sincere desire by itself is not enough to
    constitute a true threat.
    The State will ultimately need to present more than defendant's
    statements to persuade a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that defendant's
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    statements were not mere hyperbole. The State must show that a reasonable
    person would believe that cohorts or allies of defendant would understand her
    expression of hope as a request or command and would act on it; and that
    defendant intended that reaction.
    Context matters.    The State has provided virtually no context for
    defendant's Facebook statements. Instead, it relies entirely on the statements
    themselves and the allegation that Brown, against whom the witness testified,
    was involved in gangs. The record lacks any evidence of a history of violence
    by defendant; the relationship if any between her and the witness, Brown, or
    gangs; or the nature of the readership of defendant's Facebook page. There is
    also no evidence concerning whether or not the witness's identity was publicly
    known before the posts, or whether other testifying witnesses have been
    victimized.
    While the State alleges defendant's statements are a "call to arms,"
    advocacy of violence is protected speech unless it "is directed to inciting or
    producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such
    action." Brandenburg, 
    395 U.S. at 447
    . But defendant expressed only the
    "hope" that someone would blow the witness's glasses off his face; she did not
    ask or exhort someone to do that. Even urging others to violence is shielded
    unless the statement is designed and likely to produce immediate action.
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    Tending to disprove such a design and likelihood is that law enforcement
    learned of defendant's Facebook posts almost two months after they were
    published, yet no one apparently had answered the alleged "call to arms."
    In sum, the State has not presented weighty evidence that defendant's
    statements were true threats under Watts, or incitements to violence under
    Brandenburg. On the other hand, the State has established probable cause to
    charge defendant under N.J.S.A. 2C:38-5(b).
    Reversed and remanded for reconsideration.       The order of detention
    remains in force and defendant shall not be released until so ordered by the
    trial court. We do not retain jurisdiction.
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