State v. Armstead ( 2015 )


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  • [Cite as State v. Armstead, 2015-Ohio-5010.]
    IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
    SECOND APPELLATE DISTRICT
    MONTGOMERY COUNTY
    STATE OF OHIO                                       :
    :
    Plaintiff-Appellant                         :   C.A. CASE NO. 26640
    :
    v.                                                  :   T.C. NO. 14CR4210
    :
    GLEN D. ARMSTEAD, JR.                               :   (Criminal appeal from
    :    Common Pleas Court)
    Defendant-Appellee                          :
    :
    ...........
    OPINION
    Rendered on the ___4th___ day of ____December____, 2015.
    ...........
    CHRISTINA E. MAHY, Atty, Reg. No. 0092671, Assistant Prosecuting Attorney, 301 W.
    Third Street, 5th Floor, Dayton, Ohio 45422
    Attorney for Plaintiff-Appellant
    TINA M. McFALL, Atty. Reg. No. 0082586, Assistant Public Defender, 117 S. Main Street,
    Suite 400, Dayton, Ohio 45422
    Attorney for Defendant-Appellee
    .............
    DONOVAN, J.
    {¶ 1} Plaintiff-appellant State of Ohio appeals a decision of the Montgomery
    County Court of Common Pleas, Criminal Division, sustaining the motion to suppress of
    defendant-appellee Glen D. Armstead, Jr. The trial court issued its decision sustaining
    Armstead’s motion to suppress on March 26, 2015. The State filed a timely notice of
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    appeal with this Court on March 30, 2015.
    {¶ 2} The incident which forms the basis of the instant appeal occurred around
    noon on January 13, 2014, when Dayton Police Detective Dustin J. Phillips and his
    partner, Officer Jason Rhodes, were part of a task force which patrolled on the west side
    of Dayton, Ohio, specifically including properties owned by Greater Dayton Premier
    Management (GDPM). Det. Phillips and his partner were in a marked police cruiser, and
    both men were wearing the uniform of the day.
    {¶ 3} Upon observing a vehicle fail to signal a turn, Det. Phillips and his partner
    stopped the vehicle behind a store located behind the northwest corner of West Third
    Street and James H. McGee Boulevard. After stopping the vehicle, the officers observed
    that it contained only two individuals, the driver and a passenger in the front seat. While
    Officer Rhodes spoke with the driver, Det. Phillips made contact with a male sitting in the
    front passenger seat of the vehicle. Det. Phillips obtained the passenger’s identification
    card and checked his information on the computer located in the police cruiser. The
    passenger, identified as the defendant, Armstead, did not have any warrants for his
    arrest.     Det. Phillips’ computer check, however, established that Armstead was the
    subject of a valid “suspect locator hit.”
    {¶ 4} Det. Phillips testified that a “suspect locator hit” informs an investigating
    officer that another detective wants to speak with the suspect regarding another case.
    The particular suspect locator hit discovered by Det. Phillips indicated that Detective
    Jonathan Seiter wanted a sample of Armstead’s DNA.
    {¶ 5} After receiving the information regarding the suspect locator hit, Det. Phillips
    directed Armstead to exit the vehicle. Armstead complied with Det. Phillips’ request and
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    got out of the vehicle. Det. Phillips testified that he detected the strong odor of burnt
    marijuana when Armstead got out of the vehicle. Det. Phillips conducted a Terry pat
    down of Armstead, but did not find any weapons or contraband on or about his person.
    Det. Phillips did not draw his weapon nor did he handcuff Armstead.
    {¶ 6} Det. Phillips testified that at this point, Armstead was free to go, but Armstead
    was not informed of this fact. Det. Phillips informed Armstead that he needed to come
    with him in order to speak with another detective at police headquarters. Det. Phillips
    then placed Armstead in the rear of his locked police cruiser and attempted to contact
    Det. Seiter.1 Det. Phillips testified that Armstead was not under arrest at this time, nor
    did he have probable cause to request an arrest warrant for Armstead. Significantly, Det.
    Phillips acknowledged that had Armstead refused to go to the Safety Building, he could
    not have compelled him to do so. Nevertheless, he was already in custody in a locked
    cruiser. No evidence was adduced that Armstead consented to Det. Phillips’ request to
    go to the Safety Building to speak with Det. Seiter. Additionally, Det. Phillips testified
    that he was not aware of the reason why Det. Seiter wanted to speak with Armstead,
    beyond a request for a DNA sample.
    {¶ 7} Det. Phillips subsequently informed Det. Seiter that he had Armstead in
    custody and would be transporting him to the Safety Building for questioning. Det. Seiter
    thereafter went to a judge in order to get a warrant to collect Armstead’s DNA.
    Det. Seiter’s Investigation/Basis for “Suspect Locator Hit”
    {¶ 8} In December of 2012, Det. Seiter was assigned to investigate a “hit and run.”
    1
    While Armstead waited in the rear of the locked police cruiser and Det. Phillips tried to
    contact Det. Seiter, the driver of the vehicle that had originally been stopped fled the
    scene.
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    At the site of the incident, police discovered an automobile they believed to be involved
    in the offense. The vehicle was found to be registered to a female. However, inside the
    vehicle, police found mail bearing Armstead’s name and address. Moreover, Det. Seiter
    testified at the suppression hearing that the police had received an anonymous tip that
    Armstead was the driver of the vehicle involved in the “hit and run.”
    {¶ 9} Det. Seiter testified that he traveled to the address listed on Armstead’s mail
    which was found in the involved vehicle in 2012. Det. Seiter testified that he tried to
    locate Armstead at the listed address for questioning, but he did not attempt to obtain an
    arrest warrant.   Det. Seiter was unable to locate Armstead at the time of the initial
    investigation into the “hit and run.” Det. Seiter, therefore, placed a “suspect locator hit”
    on Armstead’s file that was later found and acted upon by Det. Phillips.
    Subsequent Questioning at the Safety Building
    {¶ 10} Upon arriving at the Safety Building, Det. Phillips and Officer Rhodes
    escorted Armstead to an interview room on the second floor.             Once Armstead was
    placed in the interview room, Det. Phillips and Officer Rhodes waited just outside the
    door, never leaving him unattended. Shortly thereafter, Det. Seiter, accompanied by
    Det. Donaldson, entered the interview room in order to speak with Armstead.            Det.
    Phillips and Officer Rhodes remained outside the room for the entire duration of the
    questioning. At no point was Armstead informed that he was free to leave.
    {¶ 11} Prior to asking any questions, Det. Seiter testified that he had Armstead
    read his Miranda rights and put his initials next to each right. After reading his waiver of
    rights, Armstead asked to speak to an attorney. Det. Seiter permitted Armstead to place
    a call on his own cell phone.        After Armstead appeared to end his cell phone
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    conversation, Det. Seiter reentered the interview room and asked him “What are we going
    to do?” Armstead indicated to Det. Seiter that he was willing to talk. Armstead signed
    a pre-interview form, and Det. Seiter began asking questions. After approximately five
    questions asked by Det. Seiter, Armstead indicated that he wanted to stop the interview.
    Det. Seiter ended the interview, and Det. Phillips drove Armstead to the bus stop hub in
    downtown Dayton, Ohio.
    {¶ 12} On January 21, 2015, Armstead was indicted for one count of failure to stop
    after an accident where said accident resulted in serious harm or death to a person, in
    violation of R.C. 4549.02(A), a felony of the fifth degree. At his arraignment on February
    3, 2015, Armstead stood mute, and the trial court entered a plea of not guilty on his behalf.
    {¶ 13} On February 10, 2015, Armstead filed a motion to suppress the statement
    he made to Det. Seiter during the interview held on January 13, 2015, regarding his
    involvement in a hit and run which occurred on December 18, 2012. In his motion,
    Armstead alleged that his statements were obtained in violation of his constitutional rights.
    Armstead specifically argued that his statements were made as a result of an unlawful
    arrest in violation of his Fourth Amendment right against unlawful search and seizure.
    {¶ 14} A hearing was held on Armstead’s motion to suppress on March 23, 2015.
    Thereafter, on March 26, 2015, the trial court issued a decision sustaining Armstead’s
    motion to suppress. The trial court found that Armstead’s statements were derived from
    an illegal seizure in derogation of his Fourth Amendment rights. Specifically, the trial
    court made the following conclusions of law:
    *** The Defendant was detained without an arrest warrant having been
    obtained by the police. The Defendant was taken in for questioning without
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    being advised that he was free to go. [The Defendant] did not, by act of
    free will, choose to go downtown for a meeting with the Detective. There
    was a seizure here and this seizure was in violation of the Fourth
    Amendment. The statements must be excluded.
    {¶ 15} It is from this judgment that the State now appeals.
    {¶ 16} The State’s sole assignment of error is as follows:
    {¶ 17} “THE TRIAL COURT ERRED IN GRANTING ARMSTEAD’S MOTION TO
    SUPPRESS.”
    {¶ 18} In its sole assignment, the State contends that the trial court erred when it
    sustained Armstead’s motion to suppress. Initially, the State argues that Armstead’s
    interaction with the police immediately following the traffic stop was consensual. The
    State also asserts that even if Armstead was arrested, the warrantless arrest occurred in
    a public place and was supported by probable cause. Therefore, the State asserts that
    Armstead’s Fourth Amendment rights were not violated. The State further argues that if
    Armstead was arrested, the arrest did not violate R.C. 2935.04. However, if a violation
    of R.C. 2935.04 did occur, the State argues that the exclusionary rule does not apply, and
    Armstead’s subsequent statements to Det. Seiter should not have been suppressed.
    Lastly, the State contends that even if Armstead was unlawfully arrested, his statements
    made to Det. Seiter were “attenuated from the initial arrest, and several intervening acts
    *** purged the taint of the initial arrest.”
    {¶ 19} As this Court has previously noted:
    “Appellate courts give great deference to the factual findings of the trier of facts.
    (Internal citations omitted). At a suppression hearing, the trial court serves as the
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    trier of fact, and must judge the credibility of witnesses and the weight of the
    evidence. (Internal citations omitted). The trial court is in the best position to
    resolve questions of fact and evaluate witness credibility. (Internal citations
    omitted). In reviewing a trial court's decision on a motion to suppress, an appellate
    court accepts the trial court's factual findings, relies on the trial court's ability to
    assess the credibility of witnesses, and independently determines whether the trial
    court applied the proper legal standard to the facts as found. (Internal citations
    omitted). An appellate court is bound to accept the trial court's factual findings as
    long as they are supported by competent, credible evidence.” State v. Hurt,
    Montgomery App. No. 21009, 2006–Ohio–990.
    State v. Purser, 2d Dist. Greene No.2006 CA 14, 2007–Ohio–192, ¶ 11.
    {¶ 20} Initially, we note that the only witnesses who testified at the hearing held on
    Armstead's motion to suppress were Det. Phillips and Det. Seiter. The trial court found
    their testimony to be credible and adopted it as its factual findings.
    {¶ 21} The Fourth Amendment prohibits warrantless searches and seizures,
    rendering them per se unreasonable unless an exception applies. Katz v. United States,
    
    389 U.S. 347
    , 357, 
    88 S. Ct. 507
    , 
    19 L. Ed. 2d 576
    (1967); State v. Cosby, 
    177 Ohio App. 3d 670
    , 2008-Ohio-3862, 
    895 N.E.2d 868
    , ¶ 16 (2d Dist.). Exigent circumstances are a
    well-established exception to the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement. State v.
    Andrews, 
    177 Ohio App. 3d 593
    , 2008-Ohio-3993, 
    895 N.E.2d 585
    , ¶ 23 (11th Dist.); State
    v. Berry, 
    167 Ohio App. 3d 206
    , 2006-Ohio-3035, 
    854 N.E.2d 558
    , ¶ 12 (2d Dist.). The
    scope of this exception is strictly circumscribed by the exigencies that justify the search
    or seizure, and the police “bear a heavy burden when attempting to demonstrate an
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    urgent need that might justify warrantless searches or arrests.” Welsh v. Wisconsin, 
    466 U.S. 740
    , 750, 
    104 S. Ct. 2091
    , 
    80 L. Ed. 2d 732
    (1984).
    {¶ 22} The Supreme Court of Ohio has recognized that a warrantless arrest that is
    based upon probable cause and occurs in a public place does not, in general, violate the
    Fourth Amendment. State v. Brown, 
    115 Ohio St. 3d 55
    , 2007-Ohio-4837, 
    873 N.E.2d 858
    , ¶ 66, citing United States v. Watson, 
    423 U.S. 411
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    (1976). See also Maryland v. Pringle, 
    540 U.S. 366
    , 370, 
    124 S. Ct. 795
    , 
    157 L. Ed. 2d 769
    (2003). Additionally, R.C. 2935.04 explicitly permits warrantless arrests for felonies.
    See Brown at ¶ 66. R.C. 2935.04 provides as follows:
    When a felony has been committed, or there is reasonable ground to
    believe that a felony has been committed, any person without a warrant may
    arrest another whom he has reasonable cause to believe is guilty of the
    offense, and detain him until a warrant can be obtained.
    {¶ 23} “A reasonably prudent person must, at the time of arrest, believe that the
    person placed under arrest was committing or had committed a criminal offense.” Brown
    at ¶ 66, citing Gerstein v. Pugh, 
    420 U.S. 103
    , 111–112, 
    95 S. Ct. 854
    , 
    43 L. Ed. 2d 54
    (1975). “Probable cause to arrest depends ‘upon whether, at the moment the arrest was
    made * * * the facts and circumstances within [the arresting officers'] knowledge and of
    which they had reasonably trustworthy information were sufficient to warrant a prudent
    man in believing that the [suspect] had committed or was committing an offense.’ ” Adams
    v. Williams, 
    407 U.S. 143
    , 148, 
    92 S. Ct. 1921
    , 
    32 L. Ed. 2d 612
    (1972), citing Beck v. Ohio,
    
    379 U.S. 89
    , 91, 
    85 S. Ct. 223
    , 
    13 L. Ed. 2d 142
    (1964). The existence of probable cause
    is determined by looking at the totality of the circumstances. See Illinois v. Gates, 462
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    U.S. 213, 230–232, 
    103 S. Ct. 2317
    , 
    76 L. Ed. 2d 527
    (1983).
    {¶ 24} As previously noted, after Armstead provided his identification information,
    Det. Phillips became aware that he was the subject of a “suspect locator hit.” Regarding
    the nature of a “suspect locator hit,” Det. Phillips provided the following testimony:
    If the person has a warrant, obviously I will remove them. However, with
    something like a suspect locator hit, it is a voluntary compliance type
    contact. I’ve had people refuse to come with me for questioning in different
    types of cases and at that point I cannot do anything about it. I can’t
    physically remove them and make them go with me.
    March 23, 2015 Transcript of Proceedings, p. 11 (emphasis added).
    {¶ 25} Nevertheless, once Det. Phillips became aware of the “suspect locator hit,”
    he immediately removed Armstead from the stopped vehicle, patted him down, and
    placed him in the back seat of a locked police cruiser. The record contains no evidence
    that Armstead agreed to meet with Det. Seiter, nor that he consented to being transported
    to the Safety Building.    Moreover, Det. Phillips did not testify that Armstead initially
    agreed to speak with Det. Seiter. Det. Phillips did not inform Armstead that he was under
    arrest or that he was free to leave. Det. Phillips made no attempt to explain to Armstead
    what a “suspect locator hit” was. Det. Phillips only told Armstead that a detective wanted
    to speak with him, placed him in a locked cruiser, and took him to the Safety Building for
    questioning.   In our view, this is the functional equivalent of a formal arrest as a
    reasonable person in Armstead’s position would have understood that he was in custody
    and not free to leave. State v. Cross, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 25838, 2014-Ohio-1534,
    ¶ 13. Moreover, to perform such a seizure, the police must have probable cause, which
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    was clearly not present in this case. State v. Taylor, 
    106 Ohio App. 3d 741
    , 749, 
    667 N.E.2d 60
    (2d Dist.1995).
    {¶ 26} Armstead was never informed that his compliance with Det. Phillips’
    requests was completely voluntary. Furthermore, Armstead was not the subject of any
    outstanding warrants, and Det. Phillips testified that he had no probable cause to arrest
    him. The fact that the trial court found that Det. Seiter had probable cause in 2012 to
    obtain an arrest warrant for Armstead is irrelevant to the probable cause analysis we must
    make as result of Det. Phillips’ actions. Det. Phillips admitted he only knew a DNA swab
    was needed, he knew nothing of the alleged crime or why Det. Seiter desired to talk with
    Armstead. We also note that Armstead’s continued detention was in no way related to
    the purpose of the original stop of the driver.
    {¶ 27} Accordingly, we find that the record establishes that Armstead was illegally
    detained by Det. Phillips without probable cause and without a warrant. No exigent
    circumstances were established either. We conclude, as did the trial court, that the
    totality of the circumstances establish that the State failed to demonstrate that Armstead
    voluntarily agreed to being transported to the police station in police custody for
    questioning. This illegal detention was the functional equivalent of an arrest without
    probable cause or a warrant, thus it was unlawful. Armstead’s purported acquiescence
    to Det. Phillips’ request to travel downtown to speak with Det. Seiter amounted to nothing
    more than a “mere submission to a claim of lawful authority.” Florida v. Royer, 
    460 U.S. 491
    , 
    103 S. Ct. 1319
    , 
    75 L. Ed. 2d 229
    (1983).
    {¶ 28} Additionally, we find that although Det. Seiter advised Armstead of his
    Miranda rights before he made allegedly incriminating statements, Miranda warnings
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    alone will not necessarily purge the taint of an unlawful seizure. Brown v. Illinois, 
    422 U.S. 590
    , 603–604, 
    95 S. Ct. 2254
    , 
    45 L. Ed. 2d 416
    (1975). For incriminating statements to
    be admissible, they must be “ ‘an act of free will [sufficient] to purge the primary taint of
    the unlawful invasion.’ ” Kaupp v. Texas, 
    538 U.S. 626
    , 632–633, 
    123 S. Ct. 1843
    , 
    155 L. Ed. 2d 814
    (2003), quoting Wong Sun v. United States, 
    371 U.S. 471
    , 486, 
    83 S. Ct. 407
    ,
    
    9 L. Ed. 2d 441
    (1963).
    {¶ 29} In the present case, Armstead made his incriminating statements after
    being illegally detained without probable cause or a warrant and transported to the Safety
    Building. The State has failed to establish that the taint of the unlawful seizure had
    dissipated when Armstead made his statements. See 
    Brown, 422 U.S. at 604
    , 
    95 S. Ct. 2254
    , 
    45 L. Ed. 2d 416
    . Therefore, we conclude that the statements were derivative of
    his illegal detainment and were properly suppressed by the trial court. See State v. Byrd,
    
    185 Ohio App. 3d 30
    , 2009-Ohio-5606, 
    923 N.E.2d 121
    (2d Dist.)
    {¶ 30} The State’s sole assignment of error is overruled.
    {¶ 31} The State’s sole assignment of error having been overruled, the judgment
    of the trial court is affirmed.
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    FROELICH, P.J., concurs in judgment only.
    WELBAUM, J., dissenting.
    {¶ 32} I very respectfully dissent and would reverse the judgment of the trial court.
    Armstead was not illegally arrested, and his statement, therefore, was not contaminated.
    Even if Armstead had been illegally arrested, the chain of events between the alleged
    illegal arrest and his subsequent statements was broken.            And finally, Armstead’s
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    statements to the police were voluntary. Accordingly, the motion to suppress should
    have been overruled.
    A. The Detention and Probable Cause
    {¶ 33} On January 13, 2014, Dayton Police Officers Phillips and Rhodes stopped
    a car for a traffic violation. Armstead was riding as a passenger in the car. March 23,
    2015 Transcript of Proceedings, pp. 6-7, and 13. Officer Phillips detected a strong odor
    of marijuana from within the vehicle. 
    Id. at pp.
    9-10.
    {¶ 34} When Officer Phillips verified Armstead’s identification, he learned of a
    suspect locator hit, which indicated that a DNA sample needed to be obtained, and that
    a police detective (Detective Seiter) needed to speak with Armstead. 
    Id. at pp.
    8-9.
    Phillips told Armstead that a detective needed to talk with him, removed him from the car,
    and patted him down for officer safety. 
    Id. at pp.
    10-12, 14, and 16-17. Nothing illegal
    was found. 
    Id. at p.
    16. Officer Phillips placed Armstead in the back of the police car
    for officer safety. Armstead was not handcuffed at any time and was never told by the
    officers that he was under arrest. 
    Id. at p.
    13.
    {¶ 35} Officer Phillips then telephoned Detective Seiter to ensure that the suspect
    locator hit was still valid, and learned that it was valid. At this time, the driver of the car
    fled the scene. 
    Id. at p.
    12. The police officers subsequently transported Armstead to
    a police facility interview room. 
    Id. at p.
    13.
    {¶ 36} The offense being alleged in the present case is a fifth degree felony, based
    on Armstead’s failure to stop after an accident where the accident resulted in serious
    harm or death to a person in violation of R.C. 4549.02(A). This is the same incident that
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    Detective Seiter was investigating in 2012. The police did not find Armstead at the scene
    of that crime.   However, the vehicle that was involved contained mail addressed to
    Armstead. Transcript of Proceedings, p. 22. Credit cards and other cards linked to
    Armstead were also found in the vehicle.        
    Id. at pp.
    22-23.   In addition, the police
    received an anonymous “Crime Stoppers” tip, which indicated that Armstead was the
    driver of the vehicle involved in the hit-and-run. 
    Id. at p.
    22.
    {¶ 37} Although the police made a number of trips to the address listed on the mail
    that was in the vehicle, they were not able to speak with Armstead. 
    Id. at p.
    23. Prior
    to the time that Armstead was picked up on January 13, 2014, Seiter did not procure an
    arrest warrant. 
    Id. at p.
    30. However, Seiter had a search warrant for Armstead’s DNA
    pre-typed and pre-reviewed by the City Prosecutor.          The warrant was on standby
    because Seiter had entered a suspect locator. If the warrant had been signed by a judge,
    Seiter would have had to serve it within three days, and he had not been able to locate
    Armstead. 
    Id. at p.
    29. When Seiter was notified that Phillips was bringing Armstead in
    for an interview, he went to a judge and had a DNA search warrant signed. 
    Id. at pp.
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    30.
    {¶ 38} The trial court found that Officer Phillips unlawfully detained Armstead, and
    that Armstead did not voluntarily go to the police station, where he subsequently gave a
    statement. This finding was based on the fact that a reasonable person in Armstead’s
    circumstances would not have believed he was free to leave when he was transported to
    the police station. Because the factual findings relating to lack of consent are supported
    by sufficient credible evidence, they may not be disturbed.2
    2   Although Armstead was never told that he was under arrest, I agree that the police
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    {¶ 39} Nonetheless, the trial court erred when it suppressed Armstead’s
    statements for the following reasons: lack of exigent circumstances and lack of an arrest
    warrant. These are the only issues before our court, because the trial court did not
    suppress the statement for any other reasons.
    {¶ 40} “A warrantless arrest that is based upon probable cause and occurs in a
    public place does not violate the Fourth Amendment.” State v. Brown, 
    115 Ohio St. 3d 55
    , 2007-Ohio-4837, 
    873 N.E.2d 858
    , ¶ 66, citing United States v. Watson, 
    423 U.S. 411
    ,
    
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    (1976). “A reasonably prudent person must, at the time of
    arrest, believe that the person placed under arrest was committing or had committed a
    criminal offense.”    (Citation omitted.)    
    Id. “The existence
    of probable cause is
    determined by looking at the totality of the circumstances.” State v. Brown, 2d Dist.
    Montgomery No. 26219, 2015-Ohio-1163, ¶ 12, citing Illinois v. Gates, 
    462 U.S. 213
    , 230–
    232, 
    103 S. Ct. 2317
    , 
    76 L. Ed. 2d 527
    (1983).
    {¶ 41} In the case before us, the trial court concluded that Detective Seiter had
    probable cause in 2012 to believe Armstead had committed the felony offense. I agree
    with the trial court’s conclusion.
    {¶ 42} The majority opinion disagrees with the trial court’s conclusion on this point,
    and finds the existence of probable cause in 2012 irrelevant, because Officer Phillips only
    knew that a DNA swab was needed and did not know anything about the alleged crime.
    See ¶ 26 of the majority opinion. This conclusion is incorrect, however, because it fails
    actions in this case constituted the functional equivalent of a formal arrest, since
    Armstead was deprived of his freedom of action in a significant way. See, e.g., State v.
    Petitjean, 
    140 Ohio App. 3d 517
    , 523, 
    748 N.E.2d 133
    (2d Dist.2000). Thus, for purposes
    of this case, it matters not whether we refer to the situation as “detention” or an “arrest.”
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    to consider the established concept that probable cause to arrest may be based on the
    collective knowledge of the police. See State v. Jones, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 23926,
    2011-Ohio-1984, ¶ 20, quoting State v. Wortham, 
    145 Ohio App. 3d 126
    , 130, 
    761 N.E.2d 1151
    (2d Dist.2001) (“ ‘police officers are entitled to rely on information received from
    other police officers’ when determining whether reasonable suspicion exists to detain a
    suspect.”). See also State v. Sellers, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 26121, 2014-Ohio-5366,
    ¶ 19 (“whether probable cause exists must be determined by examining the collective
    knowledge of the police.”)
    {¶ 43} In Wortham, we noted that:
    If an officer detains an individual suspected of criminal behavior in reliance
    on information received from a fellow officer, who has a reasonable
    suspicion to make a stop, he need not have independent grounds for
    suspecting criminal activity but may rely on the information given via the
    dispatch. However, the state must show that the officer who provided the
    information had a valid reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
    Wortham at 130, citing Maumee v. Weisner, 
    87 Ohio St. 3d 295
    , 298, 
    720 N.E.2d 507
    (1999).
    {¶ 44} In the present case, Officer Phillips and Detective Seiter were working in
    concert. An arrest warrant was not required to lawfully detain Armstead because the
    officers collectively were aware of facts supporting probable cause to arrest for a felony
    offense, and the arrest was made in a public place.
    {¶ 45} Furthermore, the majority incorrectly relies on the fact that Officer Phillips
    testified that he did not have probable cause to arrest Armstead. Majority Opinion at
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    ¶ 26. Whether either officer subjectively believed he had probable cause to arrest is
    irrelevant, because “a probable cause determination must be viewed under an objective
    standard, not a subjective standard.” (Citation omitted.) State v. McDonald, 4th Dist.
    Washington No. 04CA7, 2004-Ohio-5395, ¶ 25. “The fact that the officer did not believe
    he had sufficient grounds to stop appellant makes no difference, because in reviewing
    the totality of the circumstances to determine whether reasonable suspicion exists, we
    must view the circumstances through the eyes of a reasonable and prudent police officer
    on the scene. Again, the standard is objective, the officer's own subjective belief or
    conclusion regarding the existence of reasonable suspicion is not relevant.” State v.
    McCandlish, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 11AP-913, 2012-Ohio-3765, ¶ 9. See also State v.
    Hansard, 4th Dist. Scioto No. 07CA3177, 2008-Ohio-3349, ¶ 36 (“a court is not bound
    by an officer's subjective conclusions concerning the existence of probable cause and
    may determine that an officer possessed probable cause even if the officer did not believe
    that the probable cause standard had been satisfied * * *.”)
    {¶ 46} Thus, trial courts must conduct an objective evaluation whether probable
    cause exists from the collective knowledge of all officers who are working in conjunction
    on the investigation, and the knowledge of each officer is imputed to all. In the case
    before us, a reasonable and prudent officer on the scene would have had a valid,
    reasonable suspicion of criminal activity on Armstead’s part, and there was probable
    cause for an arrest. Accordingly, the majority incorrectly concludes that Armstead’s
    arrest was not based on probable cause.
    B. The Arrest and Exigent Circumstances
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    {¶ 47} Despite the existence of probable cause, the trial court concluded that
    Armstead’s arrest was unlawful because the arrest failed to comply with a second
    condition. Specifically, the trial court held that even if probable cause exists, an arrest
    must also be based on exigent circumstances. March 26, 2015 Decision and Entry, p.
    6. For this proposition, the court relied on our prior decision in State v. Jones, 183 Ohio
    App.3d 839, 2009-Ohio-4606, 
    919 N.E.2d 252
    , ¶ 12 (2d Dist.), which in turn, relied on
    State v. Heston, 
    29 Ohio St. 2d 152
    , 
    280 N.E.2d 376
    (1972), and State v. Woodards, 
    6 Ohio St. 2d 14
    , 
    215 N.E.2d 568
    (1966). 
    Id. at p.
    6, fn. 11. In particular, the trial court
    stressed that the police had probable cause to obtain an arrest warrant for Armstead in
    December 2012, and should have done so at that time. 
    Id. at p.
    7. Likewise, the
    majority opinion focuses on exigent circumstances. Majority Opinion at ¶ 21.
    {¶ 48} I do not agree that the police must demonstrate exigent circumstances in
    addition to probable cause. In my opinion, Jones incorrectly relies on authority that has
    been discredited by a subsequent decision of the Supreme Court of the United States,
    and also imposes an unnecessary burden on the State.
    {¶ 49} We held in Jones that:
    A warrantless arrest is permitted when two requirements have been met:
    first, the officer must have probable cause for the arrest; second, obtaining
    an arrest warrant beforehand must be shown to have been impracticable
    under the circumstances.
    Jones at ¶ 12, citing Heston and Woodards. We also stated in Jones that “[i]n the
    absence of exigent circumstances, judicially untested determinations by police officers
    are simply not reliable enough to justify an arrest without a warrant – at least where the
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    officers had sufficient opportunity to seek one beforehand.” (Citation omitted.) 
    Id. at ¶
    25.
    {¶ 50} In Heston, the Supreme Court of Ohio held that “[a]n arrest without a
    warrant is valid where the arresting officer has probable cause to believe that a felony
    was committed by defendant and the circumstances are such as to make it impracticable
    to secure a warrant.” Heston at paragraph two of the syllabus. Woodards held to the
    same effect. Woodards at 20.
    {¶ 51} However, both of these cases were decided prior to United States v.
    Watson, 
    423 U.S. 411
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    (1976). In Watson, the United
    States Supreme Court held that failure to obtain a warrant to make an arrest in a public
    place, absent exigent circumstances, does not violate the Fourth Amendment if the arrest
    is supported by probable cause. 
    Id. at 414-15
    and 423.3
    {¶ 52} In Watson, the Supreme Court considered whether a defendant’s arrest was
    invalid “because the postal inspector had failed to secure an arrest warrant although he
    concededly had time to do so.” 
    Id. at 414.
    The court concluded that the arrest was not
    invalid because “Title 18 U.S.C. § 3061(a)(3) expressly empowers the Board of
    Governors of the Postal Service to authorize Postal Service officers and employees
    ‘performing duties related to the inspection of postal matters’ to ‘make arrests without
    warrant for felonies cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have
    reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is
    3 I note that Heston has not been cited by the Supreme Court of Ohio since it was issued
    in 1972. In addition, the court has never cited Woodards for the proposition that securing
    a warrant must be impracticable, other than when Woodards was cited in Heston. See
    
    Heston, 29 Ohio St. 2d at 155
    , 
    280 N.E.2d 376
    .
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    committing such a felony.’ ”       
    Id. at 415.
      Because such regulations, with identical
    language, had been adopted, and because probable cause existed to believe the
    defendant had violated a federal statute prohibiting mail theft, the court held that the postal
    inspector and his subordinates were acting strictly in accordance with the governing
    statute and regulations. 
    Id. at 414-415.
    {¶ 53} In discussing this issue, the court noted first that other federal officials had
    been statutorily empowered to make felony arrests based on probable cause without a
    warrant.   
    Id. at 416.
    The court then stressed that this was consistent with existing
    Fourth Amendment cases. In this regard, the court observed that:
    “The usual rule is that a police officer may arrest without warrant one
    believed by the officer upon reasonable cause to have been guilty of a
    felony . . . .” Carroll v. United States, 
    267 U.S. 132
    , 156, 
    45 S. Ct. 280
    , 286,
    
    69 L. Ed. 543
    (1925). In Henry v. United States, 
    361 U.S. 98
    , 
    80 S. Ct. 168
    ,
    
    4 L. Ed. 2d 134
    (1959), the Court dealt with an FBI agent's warrantless arrest
    under 18 U.S.C. § 3052, which authorizes a warrantless arrest where there
    are reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has
    committed a felony.      The Court declared that “(t)he statute states the
    constitutional standard . . . .” 
    Id., at 100,
    80 S.Ct., at 170. The necessary
    inquiry, therefore, was not whether there was a warrant or whether there
    was time to get one, but whether there was probable cause for the arrest. *
    * * Just last Term, while recognizing that maximum protection of individual
    rights could be assured by requiring a magistrate's review of the factual
    justification prior to any arrest, we stated that “such a requirement would
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    constitute an intolerable handicap for legitimate law enforcement” and noted
    that the Court “has never invalidated an arrest supported by probable cause
    solely because the officers failed to secure a warrant.” Gerstein v. Pugh,
    
    420 U.S. 103
    , 113, 
    95 S. Ct. 854
    , 862, 
    43 L. Ed. 2d 54
    (1975)
    (Footnote omitted.) 
    Watson, 423 U.S. at 417-18
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    .
    {¶ 54} The Supreme Court went on to stress that:
    The cases construing the Fourth Amendment thus reflect the ancient
    common-law rule that a peace officer was permitted to arrest without a
    warrant for a misdemeanor or felony committed in his presence as well as
    for a felony not committed in his presence if there was reasonable ground
    for making the arrest.
    ***
    The balance struck by the common law in generally authorizing
    felony arrests on probable cause, but without a warrant, has survived
    substantially intact. It appears in almost all of the States in the form of
    express statutory authorization.    In 1963, the American Law Institute
    undertook the task of formulating a model statute governing police powers
    and practice in criminal law enforcement and related aspects of pretrial
    procedure.   In 1975, after years of discussion, A Model Code of Pre-
    arraignment Procedure was proposed. Among its provisions was § 120.1
    which authorizes an officer to take a person into custody if the officer has
    reasonable cause to believe that the person to be arrested has committed
    a felony, or has committed a misdemeanor or petty misdemeanor in his
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    presence. The commentary to this section said: “The Code thus adopts
    the traditional and almost universal standard for arrest without a warrant.”
    (Citations and footnote omitted.) 
    Watson, 423 U.S. at 419-422
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    .
    {¶ 55} The court then stated that:
    This is the rule Congress has long directed its principal law
    enforcement officers to follow.      Congress has plainly decided against
    conditioning warrantless arrest power on proof of exigent circumstances.
    Law enforcement officers may find it wise to seek arrest warrants where
    practicable to do so, and their judgments about probable cause may be
    more readily accepted where backed by a warrant issued by a magistrate.
    But we decline to transform this judicial preference into a constitutional rule
    when the judgment of the Nation and Congress has for so long been to
    authorize warrantless public arrests on probable cause rather than to
    encumber criminal prosecutions with endless litigation with respect to the
    existence of exigent circumstances, whether it was practicable to get a
    warrant, whether the suspect was about to flee, and the like.
    (Emphasis added.)     
    Id. at 423.
       The Supreme Court, therefore, concluded that the
    warrantless arrest did not violate the Fourth Amendment. 
    Id. at 424.
    {¶ 56} Like the federal government, Ohio has a statute permitting warrantless
    arrests upon probable cause. R.C. 2935.04 allows for suspects to be detained until a
    warrant can be obtained, stating that:
    When a felony has been committed, or there is reasonable ground
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    to believe that a felony has been committed, any person without a warrant
    may arrest another whom he has reasonable cause to believe is guilty of
    the offense, and detain him until a warrant can be obtained.
    {¶ 57} Some states have acknowledged Watson’s rule, but have concluded that
    the constitution of their state provides greater protection than the Fourth Amendment.
    See State v. Paananen, 2015-NMSC-031, 
    357 P.3d 958
    , ¶ 22.                 In Paananen, the
    Supreme Court of New Mexico noted that while Watson is still good law, the constitution
    of New Mexico affords greater protection than the Fourth Amendment. 
    Id. at ¶
    18 – 23.
    {¶ 58} In Paananen, the court discussed its prior decision in Campos v. State, 
    117 N.M. 155
    , 1994-NMSC-012, 
    870 P.2d 117
    , which had “held that under our New Mexico
    Constitution a felony arrest must be preceded by an arrest warrant, even when supported
    by probable cause, unless exigent circumstances made securing a warrant impractical.”
    
    Id. at ¶
    1. Paananen observed that “the crucial ‘inquiry in reviewing warrantless arrests
    [is] whether it was reasonable for the officer not to procure an arrest warrant.’ ” 
    Id. at ¶
    23, quoting Campos at ¶ 15.
    {¶ 59} Further commenting on its prior opinion, the Supreme Court of New Mexico
    observed that in Campos, “[t]he Court appears to have been strongly influenced by the
    factor of time. Given the early presence of probable cause and adequate opportunity to
    obtain a warrant prior to the arrest, the officers had no good reason not to get the warrant.”
    
    Id. This is
    similar to our observation in Jones that officers had “ample opportunity and
    time to obtain an arrest warrant but failed to do so.” Jones, 
    183 Ohio App. 3d 839
    , 2009-
    Ohio-4606, 
    919 N.E.2d 252
    , at ¶ 27.
    {¶ 60} However, unlike New Mexico, Ohio has held that “[t]he language of Article
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    I, Section 14 of the Ohio Constitution is virtually identical to the language in the Fourth
    Amendment, and we have interpreted Article I, Section 14 as affording the same
    protection as the Fourth Amendment.” State v. Hoffman, 
    141 Ohio St. 3d 428
    , 2014-
    Ohio-4795, 
    25 N.E.3d 993
    , ¶ 11. See also State v. Emerson, 
    134 Ohio St. 3d 191
    , 2012-
    Ohio-5047, 
    981 N.E.2d 787
    , ¶ 15 (interpreting Article I, Section 14 “ ‘to protect the same
    interests and in a manner consistent with the Fourth Amendment.’ ”) (Citation omitted.)
    {¶ 61} Consistent with Watson and the Fourth Amendment to the United States
    Constitution, the Supreme Court of Ohio has held, in interpreting R.C. 2935.04, that:
    A warrantless arrest that is based upon probable cause and occurs
    in a public place does not violate the Fourth Amendment. United States v.
    Watson (1976), 
    423 U.S. 411
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    . Warrantless
    arrests for felony offenses are explicitly permitted in Ohio: R.C. 2935.04
    allows for a suspect to be detained until a warrant can be obtained.
    State v. Brown, 
    115 Ohio St. 3d 55
    , 2007-Ohio-4837, 
    873 N.E.2d 858
    , ¶ 66.
    {¶ 62} Based on Watson and Brown, I conclude that an “exigent circumstances” or
    undue delay requirement cannot be imposed on warrantless arrests made with probable
    cause, and that the trial court erred in relying on such a requirement.
    {¶ 63} I do note that the Supreme Court of Ohio has held that “Article I, Section 14
    of the Ohio Constitution affords greater protection than the Fourth Amendment against
    searches and seizures conducted by members of law enforcement who lack authority to
    make an arrest.” State v. Brown, 
    143 Ohio St. 3d 444
    , 2015-Ohio-2438, 
    39 N.E.3d 496
    ,
    ¶ 23. To date, this “greater protection” has not been extended beyond situations where
    officers make warrantless arrests for minor misdemeanors outside their jurisdiction,
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    contrary to a state statute forbidding such arrests, 
    id. at ¶
    26, or situations involving
    warrantless arrests for minor misdemeanors, where exceptions to R.C. 2935.26 do not
    apply.    See State v. Brown, 
    99 Ohio St. 3d 323
    , 2003-Ohio-3931, 
    792 N.E.2d 175
    ,
    syllabus (“Section 14, Article I of the Ohio Constitution provides greater protection than
    the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution against warrantless arrests for
    minor misdemeanors.”)4
    {¶ 64} In Brown I, the court focused on distinguishing the United States Supreme
    Court decision in Atwater v. Lago Vista, 
    532 U.S. 318
    , 
    121 S. Ct. 1536
    , 
    149 L. Ed. 2d 549
    (2001), which had held that “ ‘If an officer has probable cause to believe that an individual
    has committed even a very minor criminal offense in his presence, he may, without
    violating the Fourth Amendment, arrest the offender.’ ” Brown I at ¶ 3, quoting Atwater
    at 354.
    {¶ 65} Before Atwater was decided, the Supreme Court of Ohio had unanimously
    concluded that full custodial arrests for minor misdemeanors were unreasonable under
    the Fourth Amendment, if no exception in R.C. 2935.26 applied. State v. Jones, 88 Ohio
    St.3d 430, 
    727 N.E.2d 886
    (2000), syllabus, followed in part and modified in part, Brown
    I at syllabus and ¶ 22.
    {¶ 66} The Jones decision was based on a traditional Fourteenth Amendment
    balancing test. In this regard, the court concluded in Jones that the serious intrusion into
    personal privacy and liberty outweighed the state’s minimal “interests in making a full
    custodial arrest for a minor misdemeanor offense, absent any R.C. 2935.26 exceptions *
    4 For purposes of clarity, I will refer to the 2003 case as “Brown I,” and the 2015 case as
    “Brown II,” since both cases bear the same party names.
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    * *.” Jones at 440. Atwater, of course, concluded otherwise.
    {¶ 67} Subsequently, in Brown I, the Supreme Court of Ohio stated that:
    Appellant contends that Atwater undermines our holding in Jones,
    particularly because in Jones we acknowledged our prior determination that
    the protections provided by Section 14, Article I of the Ohio Constitution are
    coextensive with those provided by the Fourth Amendment. We conclude
    that, to the extent that Jones relies on the Fourth Amendment to the United
    States Constitution, it is no longer authoritative regarding warrantless
    arrests for minor misdemeanors. The Ohio Constitution, however, “is a
    document of independent force. In the areas of individual rights and civil
    liberties, the United States Constitution, where applicable to the states,
    provides a floor below which state court decisions may not fall. As long as
    state courts provide at least as much protection as the United States
    Supreme Court has provided in its interpretation of the federal Bill of Rights,
    state courts are unrestricted in according greater civil liberties and
    protections to individuals and groups. * * *
    We must now determine whether Section 14, Article I of the Ohio
    Constitution provides greater protection than the Fourth Amendment. In
    State v. Robinette (1997), 
    80 Ohio St. 3d 234
    , 239, 
    685 N.E.2d 762
    , we
    stated that “we should harmonize our interpretation of Section 14, Article I
    of the Ohio Constitution with the Fourth Amendment, unless there are
    persuasive reasons to find otherwise.” We find that the balancing test set
    forth in Jones provides ample reason for holding that Section 14, Article I of
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    the Ohio Constitution provides greater protection than the Fourth
    Amendment to the United States Constitution against warrantless arrests
    for minor misdemeanors. Thus, Jones is still authoritative as to the Ohio
    Constitution.
    Brown I, 
    99 Ohio St. 3d 323
    , 2003-Ohio-3931, 
    792 N.E.2d 175
    , at ¶ 21-22.
    {¶ 68} Citing a decision of the Montana Supreme Court, the Supreme Court of
    Ohio then held that police officers may not reasonably arrest and detain individuals for
    minor misdemeanor offenses when none of the circumstances in R.C. 2935.26 apply.
    The court thus held that the defendant’s arrest violated Section 14, Article I of the Ohio
    Constitution and the evidence discovered as a result of the search must be suppressed.
    
    Id. at ¶
    23-25, citing State v. Bauer, 
    307 Mont. 105
    , 
    36 P.3d 892
    (2001).
    {¶ 69} As was noted, in Brown II, the Supreme Court of Ohio also extended this
    “greater protection” to traffic stops for minor misdemeanor offenses where an officer does
    not have statutory authority to make the stop. Brown II, 
    143 Ohio St. 3d 444
    , 2015-Ohio-
    2438, 
    39 N.E.3d 496
    , at ¶ 23-26. The extension in Brown II was based on a doctrine
    rooted in common law, and later codified in Ohio statutes, which indicated that “officers
    making an extraterritorial arrest acted outside their official capacity and were therefore
    treated as private citizens.” 
    Id. at ¶
    12.
    {¶ 70} Despite these two limited extensions, the Supreme Court of Ohio has
    stressed that “[w]e must be cautious and conservative when we are asked to expand
    constitutional rights under the Ohio Constitution, particularly when the provision in the
    Ohio Constitution is akin to a provision in the U.S. Constitution that has been reasonably
    interpreted by the Supreme Court.” (Citation omitted.) State v. Gardner, 118 Ohio St.3d
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    420, 2008-Ohio-2787, 
    889 N.E.2d 995
    , ¶ 76.
    {¶ 71} To the same effect is State v. Smith, 
    124 Ohio St. 3d 163
    , 2009-Ohio-6426,
    
    920 N.E.2d 949
    , which emphasized that Section 14, Article I of the Ohio Constitution is
    “virtually identical to the language of the Fourth Amendment.” 
    Id. at ¶
    10, fn.1. In Smith,
    the court specifically noted that Ohio’s constitution affords the same protection in felony
    cases as the Fourth Amendment. 
    Id. The court
    also observed that Brown I extended
    greater protection for warrantless arrests involving minor misdemeanors. 
    Id. See also
    State v. Neely, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 24317, 2012-Ohio-212, ¶ 21 (noting that “[w]ith
    rare exceptions, the protection afforded under the Ohio Constitution against unreasonable
    searches and seizures is coextensive with the protection afforded under the United States
    Constitution”), and State v. McLemore, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 24211, 2011-Ohio-1980,
    ¶ 7 (declining to extend the greater protection outlined in Brown I to a misdemeanor case,
    because the Supreme Court of Ohio “has not extended this rationale to all misdemeanors
    * * *.”)
    {¶ 72} The situation in the case before us, which pertains to a felony, does not
    involve one of the rare exceptions that provides greater protection under Ohio’s
    constitution. Instead, we are bound by the decisions in 
    Watson, 423 U.S. at 414-15
    , 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    , and Brown, 
    115 Ohio St. 3d 55
    , 2007-Ohio-4837, 
    873 N.E.2d 858
    , at ¶ 66, which indicate that warrantless arrests based on probable cause and
    occurring in public places do not violate the Fourth Amendment, even in the absence of
    exigent circumstances.
    {¶ 73} Many opinions of this court have acknowledged and followed Watson and/or
    Brown. For example, in State v. Piggott, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 18962, 2002-Ohio-
    -28-
    3810, we held that:
    “The necessary inquiry, therefore, [is] not whether there was a warrant or
    whether there was time to get one, but whether there was probable cause
    for the arrest. 
    Watson, supra
    , 423 U.S. at 417 [, 
    96 S. Ct. 820
    , 
    46 L. Ed. 2d 598
    ]. If probable cause exists, an arresting officer is not required to obtain
    a warrant in order to apprehend a suspected felon in a public place.”
    
    Id. at ¶
    25, quoting a September 28, 2000 Trial Court Decision in the same case. Accord
    State v. Hensley, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 82-CR-2345, 
    1985 WL 7883
    , *2 (Apr. 2, 1985);
    State v. Morgan, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 15351, 
    1996 WL 517266
    , *6 (Sept. 13, 1996);
    State v. Johnson, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 17420, 
    2001 WL 561312
    , *6 (May 25, 2001);
    State v. Wolford, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 19009, 
    2002 WL 360672
    , *1 (March 8, 2002);
    State v. Carter, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 21145, 2006-Ohio-2823, ¶ 24; State v.
    Barksdale, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 21848, 2008-Ohio-182 ¶ 11; Sellers, 2d Dist.
    Montgomery No. 26121, 2014-Ohio-5366, at ¶ 13; and State v. Brown, 2d Dist.
    Montgomery No. 26219, 2015-Ohio-1163, ¶ 12-15.
    {¶ 74} As was noted, Jones applies a different rule – probable cause plus exigent
    circumstances – that is inconsistent with rules established by the United States Supreme
    Court and the Supreme Court of Ohio. See Jones, 
    183 Ohio App. 3d 839
    , 2009-Ohio-
    4606, 
    919 N.E.2d 252
    , at ¶ 25.
    {¶ 75} The rule in Jones has been applied in a few other cases in our district. See
    State v. Anderson, 2d Dist. Clark Nos. 2009-CA-60, 2009-CA-61, 2011-Ohio-22, ¶ 21
    (concluding that seeking a warrant must be impracticable and citing Jones at ¶ 12), and
    State v. VanNoy, 
    188 Ohio App. 3d 89
    , 2010-Ohio-2845, 
    934 N.E.2d 413
    , ¶ 23 (2d Dist.)
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    (stating that “in order for an officer to lawfully perform a warrantless arrest in a public
    place, the arrest must not only be supported by probable cause, it must also be shown
    that obtaining an arrest warrant beforehand was impracticable under the circumstances,
    i.e., that exigent circumstances exist,” and citing Jones at ¶ 25).
    {¶ 76} In State v. Whitt, 2d Dist. Clark No. 2010 CA 3, 2010-Ohio-5291, we
    distinguished VanNoy and Jones because “the officers [in those cases] arrested the
    defendant without a warrant, based on events that had occurred weeks or months
    previously. In contrast, events [in Whitt] were continuing to unfold until the time that [the
    defendant] was arrested.” 
    Id. at ¶
    41.
    {¶ 77} However, the record in Whitt indicates that controlled buys of drugs
    occurred on March 20, April 2, April 7, and April 13, 2009, and the warrantless arrest
    occurred about one hour after the last controlled buy. 
    Id. at ¶
    5-9. Any one of these
    transactions, which occurred a week or weeks apart, would have furnished probable
    cause for a warrant, and there appears to be no reason why the police could not have
    obtained a warrant. Notably, the events did not “unfold” in a continuous transaction,
    since they occurred weeks apart. They were also not significantly different than the
    situation in Jones, where the police had been using a confidential informant to buy drugs
    from the defendant for quite some time (a period not disclosed in the opinion), and had
    been looking for the defendant for about three weeks before his warrantless arrest.
    Jones, 
    183 Ohio App. 3d 839
    , 2009-Ohio-4606, 
    919 N.E.2d 252
    , at ¶ 16-18.
    {¶ 78} In my opinion, even if the law permitted consideration of exigent
    circumstances or delay (which it does not), applying such a vague standard would be too
    difficult and would lead to inconsistent results, as demonstrated by the Whitt and Jones
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    decisions. Specifically, how many months or weeks or days (or perhaps even hours) is
    too long a delay, and what length of time would be sufficiently close to validate a
    warrantless arrest in a public place?
    C. Miranda Warnings
    {¶ 79} Having concluded that Armstead was properly arrested, I will next address
    the issue of the administration of Miranda warnings.       I agree with the majority that
    Armstead was in custody for purposes of requiring Miranda warnings prior to the
    interview.    The majority holds that the Miranda warnings did not purge the taint of
    Armstead’s unlawful seizure. Majority Opinion at ¶ 28-29. Because the arrest was
    lawful, I disagree with the majority.
    {¶ 80} However, even if the arrest had been unlawful, I would still not conclude
    that Armstead’s statements should be suppressed.           Specifically, while in custody,
    Armstead was properly Mirandized and was permitted to speak privately with his attorney.
    He thereafter chose, voluntarily, to speak with the officers. Contrary to the conclusion of
    the majority, the Miranda warnings are not the only circumstance to be considered.
    Instead, Armstead also spoke with an attorney, and on the attorney’s advice, decided to
    speak with the police. The majority does not discuss this point.
    {¶ 81} “In Wong Sun, the Court pronounced the principles to be applied where the
    issue is whether statements and other evidence obtained after an illegal arrest or search
    should be excluded.” Brown v. Illinois, 
    422 U.S. 590
    , 597, 
    95 S. Ct. 2254
    , 
    45 L. Ed. 2d 416
    (1975), citing Wong Sun v. United States, 
    371 U.S. 471
    , 
    83 S. Ct. 407
    , 
    9 L. Ed. 2d 441
    (1963).      “In order for the causal chain, between the illegal arrest and the statements
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    made subsequent thereto, to be broken, Wong Sun requires not merely that the statement
    meet the Fifth Amendment standard of voluntariness but that it be ‘sufficiently an act of
    free will to purge the primary taint.’ ” 
    Id. at 602,
    quoting Wong 
    Sun, 371 U.S. at 486
    .
    {¶ 82} The Supreme Court further observed in Brown that:
    It is entirely possible, of course, as the State here argues, that
    persons arrested illegally frequently may decide to confess, as an act of free
    will unaffected by the initial illegality. But the Miranda warnings, alone and
    per se, cannot always make the act sufficiently a product of free will to
    break, for Fourth Amendment purposes, the causal connection between the
    illegality and the confession. They cannot assure in every case that the
    Fourth Amendment violation has not been unduly exploited.
    While we therefore reject the per se rule which the Illinois courts
    appear to have accepted, we also decline to adopt any alternative per se or
    “but for” rule. * * * The question whether a confession is the product of a
    free will under Wong Sun must be answered on the facts of each case. No
    single fact is dispositive. * * * The Miranda warnings are an important
    factor, to be sure, in determining whether the confession is obtained by
    exploitation of an illegal arrest. But they are not the only factor to be
    considered. The temporal proximity of the arrest and the confession, the
    presence of intervening circumstances, and, particularly, the purpose and
    flagrancy of the official misconduct are all relevant. The voluntariness of
    the statement is a threshold requirement. And the burden of showing
    admissibility rests, of course, on the prosecution.
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    (Citations omitted.) 
    Brown, 422 U.S. at 603-04
    , 
    95 S. Ct. 2254
    , 
    45 L. Ed. 2d 416
    .
    {¶ 83} Here, Miranda warnings were given, but that, alone, while important, is not
    dispositive. Furthermore, although not much time had elapsed between when Armstead
    was seized and his statement was made, he was permitted to speak with his attorney in
    private, and the police did not limit the duration of the time that he was able to confer. In
    Brown, Justice Powell indicated that actual consultation with counsel would be a
    “demonstrably effective break in the chain of events leading from the illegal arrest to the
    statement * * *.” Brown at 611 (Powell, J., concurring in part).
    {¶ 84} As an example of such a situation, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
    concluded in United States v. Wellins, 
    654 F.2d 550
    (9th Cir.1981), that an order
    suppressing the fruits of a consent search and the defendant’s subsequent statements to
    police was clearly erroneous. 
    Id. at 557.
    Among the pertinent factors was that the
    district court failed to give due weight to the fact that the defendant was permitted to
    consult with his attorney before consenting to the search. 
    Id. at 555.
    In this regard, the
    court of appeals observed that:
    The crucial factor in this case is that Wellins [the defendant] was permitted
    to consult with his attorney. This is so particularly in light of the totality of
    the circumstances. Edwards v. Arizona, 
    451 U.S. 477
    , 
    101 S. Ct. 1880
    , 
    68 L. Ed. 2d 378
    (1981). Wellins is a licensed commercial pilot who, among
    other things, is rated to fly jet aircraft. In addition, Wellins is not a juvenile,
    and the record does not reflect that Wellins was in any way emotionally
    unstable at the time he gave his consent. Rather, the record compels the
    conclusion that Wellins was not only calm and composed, but that he was
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    disposed to cooperate with the DEA while wanting to give the impression to
    others that he was not cooperating with the government agents. In sum,
    Wellins' age, experience, intelligence, emotional state at the time he
    consented to the search, and the fact that he had been advised of his
    Miranda rights, while not per se “intervening circumstances”, are all relevant
    considerations with respect to the possible effect of Wellins' consultation
    with his attorney.     Realistically, it is difficult to imagine a set of
    circumstances which would more clearly require a finding of attenuation
    absent the passage of a substantial period of time.
    Wellins at 555-56.
    {¶ 85} At the time Armstead was questioned, he was 42 years old. The record
    indicates that he was coherent when questioned, did not appear to be under the influence
    of drugs or alcohol, and answered questions appropriately. March 23, 2015 Transcript
    of Proceedings, p. 26. The police also did not threaten him, did not raise their voices,
    and did not make any promises; the overall tone was professional. 
    Id. at pp.
    26-27.
    After answering a few questions, Armstead stated that was “all he was going to say
    because that’s all his attorney wanted him to say and that was the end of the interview.”
    
    Id. at p.
    27. The interview lasted about ten minutes. 
    Id. at p.
    28.
    {¶ 86} Under the circumstances, it is hard to conceive what more could have been
    done to break the chain of the events between the alleged illegal arrest and Armstead’s
    statements. The absence of “threats or misrepresentations” also “weighs against the
    defendant.” 
    Wellins, 654 F.2d at 557
    . And, even if I assumed the arrest was illegal, the
    officers’ alleged misconduct in this case was not flagrant.
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    {¶ 87} As an additional matter, after being given Miranda warnings and after being
    allowed to talk to his attorney, Armstead stated that he would talk to the police. He then
    gave several statements before terminating the interview. Whether his statement was
    voluntary is “a question of fact to be determined from the totality of the circumstances.
    The basic test for voluntariness is whether the statement is the product of a rational
    intellect and free will. Mincey v. Arizona (1976), 
    437 U.S. 385
    , 398, 
    98 S. Ct. 2408
    , 
    57 L. Ed. 2d 290
    .” (Citations omitted.) State v. Stewart, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 22759,
    2009-Ohio-2184, ¶ 21.
    {¶ 88} For the reasons expressed, I conclude that even if Armstead had been
    illegally arrested by the police, his statements should not have been suppressed because
    they were attenuated from the alleged taint arising from the arrest, and were also
    voluntary.
    {¶ 89} Based on the preceding discussion, and for all the grounds stated, I very
    respectfully dissent.
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