State v. Cunningham ( 2022 )


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  • [Cite as State v. Cunningham, 
    2022-Ohio-3497
    .]
    IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
    SIXTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    LUCAS COUNTY
    State of Ohio                                        Court of Appeals No. L-21-1136
    Appellee                                     Trial Court No. CR0202001977
    v.
    Tacarie Cunningham                                   DECISION AND JUDGMENT
    Appellant                                    Decided: September 30, 2022
    *****
    Julia R. Bates, Lucas County Prosecuting Attorney, and
    Evy M. Jarrett, Assistant Prosecuting Attorney, for appellee.
    Timothy Young, Ohio State Public Defender, and
    Timothy B. Hackett, Assistant State Public Defender, for appellant.
    *****
    MAYLE, J.
    {¶ 1} Appellant, Tacarie Cunningham, appeals the June 11, 2021 judgment of the
    Lucas County Court of Common Pleas sentencing him to 15 years to life in prison. For
    the following reasons, we affirm.
    I.      Background and Facts
    {¶ 2} Cunningham’s conviction in this case arose from the shooting death of C.C.
    on March 15, 2020. Cunningham, who was 15 years old at the time, was initially charged
    in the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas, Juvenile Division (“juvenile court”), with
    complaints alleging felony murder in violation of R.C. 2903.02(B), an unclassified felony
    if committed by an adult; felonious assault in violation of R.C. 2903.11(A)(2), a second-
    degree felony if committed by an adult; and tampering with evidence in violation of R.C.
    2921.12(A)(1), a third-degree felony if committed by an adult. The felony murder and
    felonious assault complaints each included a specification under R.C. 2941.145 alleging
    that Cunningham had a firearm on or about his person while committing the offense and
    used it to facilitate the offense.
    A. Juvenile court proceedings
    1. Probable cause hearing
    {¶ 3} On March 31, 2020, the state moved under R.C. 2152.10(B) and 2152.12(B)
    to have Cunningham’s case transferred to the General Division of the Lucas County
    Court of Common Pleas (“trial court”). On May 6, 2020, the juvenile court held a
    hearing to determine if there was probable cause to believe that Cunningham had
    committed felony murder, felonious assault, and tampering with evidence. The state
    presented the testimony of two detectives from the Toledo Police Department (“TPD”),
    Jason Mussery and Robert Bascone.
    {¶ 4} Mussery testified that he was on call the morning of March 15, 2020, when
    he received a report of a shooting homicide at an after-hours bar on West Sylvania in
    Toledo. When he arrived at the bar, Mussery individually interviewed the seven
    witnesses who were detained by TPD officers. Although he did not remember the name
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    of each witness, Mussery said that “all of them gave the same story as far as there was a
    scuffle or something happening in the patio area in the back of the bar before they heard a
    shot.”
    {¶ 5} Mussery said that the bar had “two DVR systems” with video footage that
    officers downloaded pursuant to a search warrant. The state played the video during
    Mussery’s testimony.1 Mussery said that the footage showed a group of people,
    including C.C. and Cunningham, by the door from the patio to the bar. The state also
    showed Mussery state’s exhibit No. 1, which was a printout of a frame from the video
    with one person circled. Mussery identified Cunningham as the person circled in the
    photograph.
    {¶ 6} Returning to the video, Mussery described “a scuffle at the door.” He said,
    “You can’t see what’s happening. [Cunningham] goes towards the door, and it appears
    that there is a scuffle. I don’t know if he was pushed away from the door, but as he backs
    away from it, he pulls a gun out of his sweatshirt and he fires.” About a minute after
    firing the gun, Cunningham reenters the patio area, reaches down, and picks up
    something. Based on his training and experience, where Cunningham was standing when
    he fired the gun, where Cunningham picked up the object, and the fact that police did not
    find shell casings at the scene, Mussery concluded that Cunningham returned to the patio
    area to pick up shell casings.
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    The state did not offer the video that it played during the probable cause hearing as an
    exhibit, and the video is not included in the appellate record.
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    {¶ 7} Mussery learned the shooter’s identity from other officers before he watched
    the surveillance video. They identified him as Cunningham. After watching the video
    and learning that Cunningham was 15 years old, Mussery filed delinquency complaints
    against Cunningham alleging felony murder with a gun specification, felonious assault
    with a gun specification, and tampering with evidence. Mussery said that the tampering
    complaint related to Cunningham removing shell casings from the crime scene. He
    explained that shell casings are “very important because that’s how you link a crime to a
    gun, and if you don’t have shell casings, you can’t do that.”
    {¶ 8} At the time of the probable cause hearing, an autopsy had been conducted on
    C.C., but the report was not yet ready. However, speaking as the lead investigator in the
    case, Mussery said that C.C.’s cause of death was “[d]eath by gunfire.”
    {¶ 9} On cross-examination, Mussery clarified that, although C.C. was outside on
    the patio before the shooting, he was found on a set of steps inside the bar—not in the
    patio area. Mussery claimed that there was no video from that area of the interior of the
    bar.
    {¶ 10} Mussery also said that police had not found the gun that they believed was
    used in the shooting. However, while reviewing the video, Mussery saw “several guns”
    in the patio area of the bar that night, including a gun that defense counsel characterized
    as an “assault rifle” that police later found in a backpack. Mussery did not know the
    caliber of the gun in the backpack or the caliber of the gun used to kill C.C. He did not
    see Cunningham with a backpack at any point.
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    {¶ 11} Before the shooting, a man who was on the patio had a gun in his hand that
    he put down. When he did so, another man came over and picked it up. The second man
    then walked into the bar with the gun. Mussery did not know the caliber of this gun or if
    it matched the caliber of the gun that killed C.C.
    {¶ 12} While closely reviewing the video footage, Mussery acknowledged that
    Cunningham had his left hand out of his pocket and did not have a gun shortly before the
    shooting. Cunningham was also one of the people who was pushed back from the door
    leading into the bar just before the shooting. Mussery agreed that it was possible that
    Cunningham dropped something from his pockets when he was pushed and that he
    returned to the patio after the shooting to pick up his personal property—not something
    with evidentiary value. However, although he could not see on the video exactly what
    Cunningham picked up, Mussery said that he “think[s] it’s highly unlikely” that the item
    was Cunningham’s personal property. Mussery also acknowledged that, after the
    shooting happened, several people walked back and forth through the patio area and
    people who were not there at the time of the shooting walked into the bar through the
    patio area. He did not see any of these people “bend down to the floor[,]” so he did not
    think that any of them could have picked up a shell casing as they walked through.
    {¶ 13} Mussery could not tell from the video how many shots were fired, but
    based on the accounts that he gathered from the witnesses—whom Mussery described as
    “about 50 percent cooperative”—he believed that there were two shots. He also believed
    that Cunningham was the person who fired the shots based on what he saw in the video,
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    despite knowing that another handgun was in the bar less than three minutes before C.C.
    was shot. As Mussery clarified on redirect, this was because Cunningham was the only
    person who was visible in any portion of the surveillance video pointing a gun at
    someone or firing a gun. But he conceded that there was no video of the interior of the
    bar, so he had no way of knowing if someone inside the bar pointed a gun at C.C.
    {¶ 14} The state’s other witness at the probable cause hearing was Bascone, a
    detective with the TPD’s gang unit. Following C.C.’s shooting, someone from TPD’s
    detective bureau sent the picture in state’s exhibit No. 1 to the gang unit to see if they
    could identify the person circled in the picture. Bascone was able to identify the person
    as Cunningham “[r]ight away” and did not have any doubts about his identification.
    {¶ 15} After hearing the testimony, the juvenile court said that the standard for
    probable cause required it to find that there was credible evidence supporting every
    element of each offense and “whether its [sic] more likely than not that these offenses
    were committed and that they were committed by Tacarie.” In finding probable cause,
    the court explained
    What I see is Tacarie shooting in the direction of where the victim
    was. I know that [C.C.] died. Everybody stipulated that there was a
    murder, that he was shot to death. There were no shell casings, and yet
    there should have at least been a shell casing either where the victim was
    found if someone inside the club killed him, or where Tacarie was and
    there’s none either way. But we saw Tacarie bend down to pick something
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    up. I think that it’s more likely than not that not only was this murder—not
    only this murder happened but that Tacarie Cunningham did it. Now,
    again, that’s not proof beyond a reasonable doubt. All I need to make a
    finding is that it’s more likely than not that that’s what happened, and I do
    make that finding.
    {¶ 16} Because Cunningham’s transfer to the trial court was discretionary under
    R.C. 2152.12, the trial court ordered the required evaluations and amenability hearing
    before determining whether to transfer jurisdiction of Cunningham’s case.
    2. Amenability hearing
    {¶ 17} On August 4, 2020, the juvenile court held a hearing to determine if
    Cunningham was amenable to care or rehabilitation in the juvenile system, and if the
    safety of the community required that Cunningham be subject to adult sanctions, as
    required by R.C. 2152.12(B). At the hearing, the state presented the testimony of Dr.
    Thomas Sherman, a psychiatrist, and Mussery.
    {¶ 18} Sherman testified that he is the medical director at Court Diagnostic and
    Treatment Center, and that he evaluated Cunningham for purposes of the amenability
    hearing. When he conducts these evaluations, he looks at whether the child has a mental
    illness or mental defect, the child’s maturity level, and whether the child is amenable to
    rehabilitation in the juvenile system.
    {¶ 19} Sherman described Cunningham as a “nice kid” who was polite and did not
    show signs of serious mental illness. He thought that Cunningham “wasn’t very upfront”
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    and “was kind of vague in providing details[,]” but “[o]ther than that, nothing else was
    peculiar.”
    {¶ 20} Regarding mental illness, Sherman said that Cunningham had attention
    deficit hyperactivity disorder, which is a mental illness, but “in terms of forensic
    evaluations, mental illness translates to either severe depression, bipolar disorder or some
    sort of psychotic disorder.”
    {¶ 21} When he considers a child’s maturity, Sherman is “looking for [] gross
    immaturity rather than maturity. * * * [W]hat interested me most is whether or not I’m
    dealing with a kid or an adult.” Sherman did not think that he was “dealing with” a kid
    when it came to Cunningham. He said that Cunningham “certainly did not appear to be
    living the life of a typical 15-year old [sic]. * * * He traveled around. He went to Dayton
    by himself. He was hanging out in the middle of the night.”
    {¶ 22} Finally, regarding rehabilitation in the juvenile system, Sherman said that
    asking him to “foretell the future” was a “difficult question.” He explained that, at 15
    years old, Cunningham could spend six years at a Department of Youth Services
    (“DYS”) facility, and that “[a] lot can happen in six years.” However, “[w]hat [Sherman]
    worried about most in this case was the nature of the offense. It sounded to [Sherman] as
    if it were just cold blooded, and [Cunningham] denied it. There was no remorse.”
    Sherman referred to the video of a police interview with Cunningham that Sherman
    watched as part of his evaluation. When the detective presented Cunningham with video
    evidence of Cunningham with the gun in his hand, Cunningham “denied doing it.”
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    Sherman said that he was “not here to make a judgment whether or not [Cunningham] did
    do it, but if he did, that certainly doesn’t sound real good.”
    {¶ 23} Sherman went on to explain what he called the “Sherman rule”: “if [in] the
    best of all worlds and price were no object and insurance covered everything, could I, in
    six years, make a big difference if I were treating him personally? In this case I doubt it,
    but, again, if he were a captive citizen, maybe I could.” Sherman reiterated that
    predicting future outcomes is a “very difficult thing to determine.”
    {¶ 24} Additionally, Sherman learned of a report that Cunningham had put a post
    on Facebook that included the “the presentation of the victim as a trophy * * *.” If
    Cunningham had, in fact, made such a post, Sherman said that it “certainly suggests to
    [him] a lack of remorse, a lack of ability to put yourself in another person’s position * *
    *. Those are indications * * * of an incipient antisocial character which would make it
    almost beyond the realm of treatment, certainly beyond the realm of treatment with the
    current situation of DYS.”
    {¶ 25} In reaching his conclusion, Sherman considered the potentially unreliable
    report about the Facebook post and its contents, the lack of remorse that he saw in
    Cunningham’s police interview, Cunningham’s relatively minor juvenile record before
    this case, and Cunningham’s age. Cunningham’s case was “not an easy call,” but
    Sherman ultimately decided that, “if [Cunningham] did this [crime] and if the facts that I
    have in front of me are true, that’s not a good prognosis for long-term treatment. But,
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    again, you know, we’re talking six years.” Sherman admitted that “up until the time of
    the offense [Cunningham] clearly would fit a DYS transfer, but this is a different story.”
    {¶ 26} On cross-examination, Sherman acknowledged that Cunningham’s only
    prior juvenile adjudication was for criminal trespass, and that he believed that
    Cunningham was amenable to juvenile court sanctions for that offense. Sherman went on
    to say that “if this were some other kind of offense, armed robbery for example, I would
    probably say that [Cunningham] could still be amenable to treatment. It’s the nature of
    this offense that really swung the balance for me.”
    {¶ 27} Sherman also admitted that what he perceived as Cunningham’s lack of
    remorse could have been the result of other factors, such as Cunningham being adamant
    that he had not committed the offenses and naturally being guarded because he was
    facing serious charges and had never met Sherman.
    {¶ 28} Regarding Cunningham’s maturity, Sherman agreed that Cunningham, at
    15, lacked a full understanding of the consequences of the court proceedings and the
    nature of his involvement with Sherman because “[t]here is a great deal of naivete that
    comes with 15-year olds [sic] no matter what kind of lifestyle they have.” Although the
    way that Cunningham was described in some of his school documents—impulsive,
    talking about inappropriate topics, fighting, having difficulty with interpersonal
    relationships—could show youthful immaturity, Sherman also said that they “could be
    describing the worst psychopath at the age of 25 * * *.”
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    {¶ 29} Consistent with his testimony, Sherman’s report, which the state offered
    into evidence, said that Cunningham provided generalities and vague information in
    response to Sherman’s questions. In the history section, Cunningham reported that he
    was raised by his mother and had five half-siblings whose exact ages he did not know.
    He was a Toledo native, and had moved around a lot, but could not remember how many
    addresses he had lived at or schools he had attended. He was unsure of what school he
    would be attending if he were not in detention, but said he would be in tenth grade. He
    also reported his ADHD diagnosis and said that he had taken medicine for it in the past,
    although he was not taking it at the time of his meeting with Sherman. He said that he
    uses marijuana because it makes him less hyper, but did not drink alcohol. Cunningham
    reported having a girlfriend, who was also 15 and was pregnant.
    {¶ 30} In the evaluation section, Sherman noted that Cunningham was pleasant
    and friendly, despite giving vague and sometimes evasive answers. He said that
    Cunningham “was always emphasizing the fact that he has ‘turned the corner’ in his life,
    even though he continued to deny any participation in this offense.” Cunningham was
    logical and oriented, and did not display characteristics of major mental disorders, signs
    of depression or anxiety, abnormal or peculiar affect, or evidence of serious intellectual
    incapacity, neurocognitive deficits, or memory problems.
    {¶ 31} In reaching his conclusion about Cunningham’s amenability to treatment,
    Sherman wrote that “[u]p until the time of the [underlying offenses], there appeared to be
    no indication that he is a recidivistic criminal or antisocial personality. The nature of this
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    offense, however, (if indeed he committed it) is a cause of serious concern in terms of
    future amenability.” If Cunningham were involved in the shooting, “he was the lone
    actor and did not appear to be demonstrating any remorse denying the fact that he even
    participated in the offense despite evidence apparently to the contrary.” Sherman went
    on to explain that Cunningham’s lifestyle at the time of the shooting “certainly does not
    indicate he was an ‘average’ 15-year-old.” Cunningham admitted to being at an after-
    hours bar, but said that he could not remember what he was doing there; he claimed that
    he just decided to go. Sherman also noted that Cunningham did not seem to have many
    friends or close relationships.
    {¶ 32} Taking all of these things into consideration, and based on the statutory
    factors regarding transfer to the adult court, Sherman made three conclusions: (1) there
    was no evidence that Cunningham suffered from a significant mental illness or defect; (2)
    there was no evidence of “glaring immaturity and childlike behavior that would mitigate
    against a transfer * * *”; and (3) the answer to the question of amenability depended upon
    whether Cunningham actually committed the crimes he was accused of.
    {¶ 33} Specifically regarding the third conclusion, Sherman said that
    If indeed [Cunningham] was the lone actor and the lone “shooter”, it
    would appear that the matter speaks for itself. The situation would be even
    more serious if indeed he did put a Facebook post out advertising the victim
    as a “trophy”. It appears as though he was living in what could best be
    described as a “criminal environment”. There appeared to be no stability,
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    moving from school to school, home to home and apparently thinking
    nothing of the fact that there were serious contrabands found in the house
    where he was living [sic].
    [] If on the other hand he was not a participant in the offense and
    based upon his age, it would appear there would be no absolute
    contraindications to him being kept in the juvenile system.
    {¶ 34} The other witness that the state called at the amenability hearing was
    Mussery. First, he testified about identifying Cunningham as the suspect in this case.
    Although he identified the suspected shooter from the surveillance video, he did not
    know the shooter’s name. Before he identified Cunningham as the person in the video,
    he received an anonymous tip that the shooter was “very young and that they were in a
    gang[,]” specifically the “Rec Squad [sic]” gang. Mussery eventually learned
    Cunningham’s name from the gang unit of the TPD. Because of prior interactions with
    Cunningham, “[t]he entire unit” was able to identify Cunningham from the photograph in
    state’s exhibit No. 1, and they knew that he was affiliated with the RECC Squad gang.
    Mussery did not have any personal knowledge that Cunningham was in a gang.
    {¶ 35} A couple of days after the shooting, Mussery received another anonymous
    tip. This caller said that a Facebook page had “a post about the victim of the shooting
    being a trophy[,]” and that the post had already been taken down. When Mussery looked
    up the Facebook page, he did not see a post about the victim, but he saw that the page
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    belonged to Cunningham, despite the page being listed under a name that was not
    “Tacarie Cunningham.”
    {¶ 36} According to Mussery, the only evidence that Cunningham knew C.C.
    came from Cunningham saying during his interview that he knew who C.C. was, but
    “they had no problems with each other or anything.” Based on what he could see in the
    video, Mussery said that there appeared to be a dispute between other parties right before
    the shooting happened, but that neither Cunningham nor C.C. was involved.
    {¶ 37} Mussery was not able to discern a motive for the shooting in this case. He
    said that, based on the video, “there doesn’t appear to be any reason to pull a gun and
    shoot someone. * * * [Cunningham] wasn’t in any mortal danger.” Mussery also
    observed that “in the moments leading up to the shooting if you watch the video,
    [Cunningham] has a smile on his face the whole time. And most of the video, prior to the
    shooting he has his hand in his pocket” that he later pulls the gun from. Mussery did not
    come across anyone who had a grudge against C.C. and would want to kill him or find
    any evidence that any of the adults at the bar that night had encouraged Cunningham to
    shoot C.C.
    {¶ 38} On cross, Mussery said that the only thing he did to verify the anonymous
    tip about the Facebook page was call the phone number back, but the person did not want
    to provide their name. He said that he “didn’t give [the tip] any weight at all. I put it in
    my report.” Mussery acknowledged that he never saw the post that the caller referred to,
    and that he could not try to subpoena Facebook for a post that had been taken down. He
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    also acknowledged that the name on the Facebook page was not Cunningham’s name,
    that anyone could post pictures of Cunningham and make a page appear to belong to him,
    and that he “[t]echnically” could not verify that the page belonged to Cunningham.
    However, he believed the page was Cunningham’s based on the person’s friends, who
    also had pictures of Cunningham on their pages, and a reference to the name on the
    Facebook page that police found when they executed a search warrant at one of
    Cunningham’s former residences. Mussery clarified on redirect that the initials “YTM”
    were part of the name on the Facebook page and were also “carved on the porch of an
    address that [Cunningham] has previously used[,]” which was vacant at the time TPD
    officers searched it.
    {¶ 39} The last piece of evidence that the juvenile court considered was
    Cunningham’s social history, compiled as required by R.C. 2152.12(C). The probation
    officer who created the report gathered information from Cunningham and his mother.
    Mother reported that she and her family were residing in Dayton at the time of the
    shooting, and Cunningham somehow made his way back to Toledo. Cunningham
    admitted to coming to Toledo without mother’s consent and said that he was staying with
    family members. Neither one was clear on how long Cunningham was in Toledo, but
    they said that he returned to Dayton after the shooting. Mother also said that getting
    Cunningham to follow his curfew was an ongoing problem, and she was concerned that
    he did not fully understand the nature of the offenses he was accused of.
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    {¶ 40} Cunningham reported not having any close friends, but having a few
    friends he regularly spent time with. He had one friend who had been in trouble with the
    law and one who was involved with a gang. Cunningham denied being involved with
    any gangs.
    {¶ 41} The last record of Cunningham attending school before the March 2020
    shooting was in January 2020, in Monroe, Michigan, where the family was living at the
    time. He was in eighth grade. According to the school records, Cunningham was
    suspended in late January because he came to school smelling like marijuana and
    admitted to being high. He did not return to school after the suspension. The school
    noted a “Law Enforcement Truancy Referral” on Cunningham’s record, and listed the
    reason that Cunningham was withdrawn from the school as “[u]nable to locate.”
    Cunningham’s grade cards from sixth and seventh grades, when he attended Toledo
    Public Schools (“TPS”), show chronic absenteeism and generally poor grades, with his
    grade point average for each year falling below 1.0. Cunningham had an individualized
    education plan (“IEP”) when he was at TPS. The evaluations done for the IEP showed
    that Cunningham’s general intelligence level was in the borderline-low range compared
    to peers his age, his academic functioning was significantly below his grade level, and he
    had behavioral problems that were severe enough to require his placement at schools for
    children with behavioral problems. Cunningham struggled with impulsivity, was seen
    kicking other students, throwing objects, and being in other people’s personal space, and
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    had trouble attending to tasks and putting forth the effort required to improve his
    academic performance.
    {¶ 42} Cunningham had received mental health services and treatment for ADHD
    in the past, but was not prescribed any medicine or under the care of a doctor at the time
    of the social history. He reported that his drug of choice was marijuana, but he had not
    used it in the past 30 days because he had been in the detention center. Mother said that
    Cunningham’s drug use was a problem, but he had not participated in any drug treatment
    services.
    {¶ 43} Based on the information available to the probation officer who compiled
    the social history, the officer determined that Cunningham “did not display the ability to
    recognized high risk situations.” The officer noted that Cunningham admitted to driving
    a stolen car without a license, selling drugs, and violating his curfew, which supported
    the officer’s conclusion that Cunningham “did not display the ability to weigh the pros
    and cons to specific situations” and “did not display a pattern for making pro-social
    decisions.” He acknowledged that “his poor decision has placed him into this
    predicament[,]” but was “confident that the truth will come out in court.” The probation
    officer also noted that Cunningham expressed empathy for C.C.’s family and shared how
    his actions impacted his own family.
    {¶ 44} After hearing the testimony and evidence at the amenability hearing, the
    juvenile court determined that Cunningham’s case should be transferred to the trial court.
    In explaining its reasoning, the court said,
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    [T]his is very difficult for me as a judge, as a person, as a parent.
    I've been on the bench about—over 13 years now here, and I do not recall
    any other murder cases involving a 15-year old [sic]—or I should say a
    discretionary [transfer] murder * * * where the murder occurred for no
    apparent reason. * * *
    This case really bothers me, Tacarie. Because I saw the video, and I
    found that it’s probable that you killed this guy. And for purposes of
    today’s hearing, I have to assume guilt because I made a probable cause
    finding. Every section—every factor that’s considered for or against
    transfer requires that I assume guilt. If I didn’t, we wouldn’t be here.
    * * * The statute says it’s not just about whether there’s time for
    rehabilitation. The statute [R.C.] 2152.12(B) states that the child is not
    amenable within the juvenile system and the safety of the community
    requires the child to be subject to adult sanctions, of those are the two
    factors that I have to decide. * * *
    The factors against that decision are (E) (5), that he has previously
    not been adjudicated a delinquent child. That’s true. And the other factor
    against transfer is that there are six years within which to give him services.
    The factors in favor of transfer are that the victim died. That’s
    subsection (1). Subsection (5) that he—that Tacarie had a firearm on him,
    and that for purposes of today I assume he killed him. And (8), the child is
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    emotionally, physically or psychologically mature enough for the transfer.
    If he were six months older, he would have been a mandatory transfer. And
    I’m not saying that’s the basis of my decision. But I understand what Dr.
    Sherman was saying when he said if he’s guilty of this, then it doesn’t
    matter that there are six years left. There’s actually not six years left.
    There’s about five. But it doesn’t matter because this is such a cold
    blooded act, assuming that this—that he did this. It is cold blooded with no
    apparent motive, and I do think that there is a connection between him
    being identified by every member of the gang unit and this murder. Do I
    think that he had a beef with the victim, I have no idea. Nobody does. But
    I almost wish he had. That would give me some reason for this murder.
    And I think what bothers me the most about this is in 13 years on the bench
    I have never seen anybody just kill somebody without any reason to do it,
    much less a 15-year old [sic]. So in considering those factors, there are
    more factors in favor of transfer than against it. But in addition, I don’t
    think that Tacarie is amenable to treatment or care, rehabilitation in the
    juvenile justice system. And I do think that the community needs to be
    protected from him. * * *
    The court went on to say that it thought that “there is a chance that [Cunningham] will
    end up being found not guilty * * *” in the trial court because “[t]here are some good
    arguments when you’re looking at [proof] beyond a reasonable doubt, * * *” but for
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    purposes of determining whether Cunningham’s case should be transferred, the court
    “thought there was plenty of evidence to show that this was just a cold blooded murder
    for no apparent reason, and that is really a scary thing.”
    3. Transfer decision
    {¶ 45} On August 7, 2020, the juvenile court filed a judgment entry transferring
    jurisdiction to the trial court. The juvenile court determined that (1) Cunningham was
    charged with delinquency by reason of committing acts that would be felonies if
    committed by an adult; (2) probable cause was found to believe that Cunningham
    committed the acts he was charged with; (3) Cunningham was 15 years old at the time of
    the offense; and (4) a medical examination, social history investigation, and mental
    evaluation were completed and considered, as required by R.C. 2152.12(C) and Juv.R.
    30. The court reiterated that it was required to determine whether Cunningham was
    amenable to care and rehabilitation in the juvenile system and whether the safety of the
    community may require that Cunningham be subject to adult sanctions.
    {¶ 46} After considering the factors in R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E), the juvenile court
    said that it was
    clearly convinced that factors in favor of transfer, [R.C.] 2152.12
    (D), (1), (5), and (8), outweigh factors against transfer, [R.C.] 2152.12 (E)
    (5) and (8) [sic]. Although this youth would be in the juvenile system for 5
    more years, it is not the amount of time but rather the nature of this crime
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    that leads this Court to believe he would not be amenable to treatment
    within that period of time.
    B. Trial court proceedings
    {¶ 47} Following the juvenile court’s transfer of jurisdiction, Cunningham was
    indicted on one count each of felony murder in violation of R.C. 2903.02(B), an
    unclassified felony; felonious assault in violation of R.C. 2903.11(A)(2), a second-degree
    felony; and tampering with evidence in violation of R.C. 2921.12(A)(1), a third-degree
    felony. The felony murder and felonious assault charges each included a firearm
    specification under R.C. 2941.145.
    {¶ 48} Cunningham eventually entered a guilty plea under North Carolina v.
    Alford, 
    400 U.S. 25
    , 
    91 S.Ct. 160
    , 
    27 L.Ed.2d 162
     (1970), to the felony murder charge.
    In exchange, the state agreed to dismiss the firearm specification attached to the murder
    charge and the remaining charges in the indictment. At the plea hearing, the trial court
    found Cunningham guilty of felony murder.
    {¶ 49} At the sentencing hearing, the trial court imposed a definite prison term of
    15 years to life, with parole eligibility after 15 years, and ordered Cunningham to register
    with the violent offender database upon his release from prison.
    C. Appeal
    {¶ 50} Cunningham now appeals, raising seven assignments of error:
    Assignment of Error I: The juvenile court violated Tacarie’s right to
    due process, fundamental fairness, and the presumption of innocence when
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    it determined that Tacarie was guilty of the offenses charged for the
    purpose of finding that he was not amenable to treatment in the juvenile
    system.
    Assignment of Error II: The trial court abused its discretion and
    violated due process when it found that Tacarie was not amenable to
    treatment when the government did not present clear and convincing
    evidence to support this claim.
    Assignment of Error III: Without a clear standard of proof, R.C.
    2152.12(B) violates a child’s right to procedural due process and fairness.
    Assignment of Error IV: The juvenile court violated Tacarie’s right
    to due process and abused its discretion when it failed to weigh all
    dispositional options provided by statute, including a serious youthful
    offender disposition.
    Assignment of Error V: The juvenile court erred when it found
    probable cause despite the absence of credible evidence.
    Assignment of Error VI: Alternatively, the “more than a mere
    suspicion” standard used in probable cause hearings violated Tacarie’s right
    to procedural due process in transfer proceedings.
    Assignment of Error VII: Tacarie was deprived of his right to the
    effective assistance of counsel.
    II.       Law and Analysis
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    {¶ 51} In his assignments of error, Cunningham argues, broadly, that the juvenile
    court’s probable cause and amenability determinations were not supported by sufficient,
    credible evidence; the standard of proof that the court used for the probable cause
    determination and the lack of a clear standard of proof in R.C. 2152.12(B) violate his
    procedural due process rights; the court violated his due process rights by presuming his
    guilt and failing to weigh the possibility of a serious youthful offender (“SYO”)
    disposition during the amenability hearing; and he received ineffective assistance of
    counsel. For ease of discussion, we address his arguments out of order.
    A. Juvenile transfer law
    {¶ 52} Before addressing Cunningham’s assignments of error, we first review the
    law applicable to juvenile bindover hearings.
    1. Statutory requirements
    {¶ 53} The juvenile court has exclusive subject matter jurisdiction over the case of
    a child who is alleged to be delinquent because he committed acts that would be
    considered crimes if they were committed by an adult. State v. Wilson, 
    73 Ohio St.3d 40
    ,
    43-44, 
    652 N.E.2d 196
     (1995); R.C. 2151.23(A)(1) (“The juvenile court has exclusive
    original jurisdiction * * * [c]oncerning any child who on or about the date specified in the
    complaint * * * is alleged * * * to be * * * a delinquent * * * child * * *.”); R.C.
    2152.02(E)(1) (defining a “[d]elinquent child” as “[a]ny child, except a juvenile traffic
    offender, who violates any law of this state or the United States, or any ordinance of a
    political subdivision of the state, that would be an offense if committed by an adult”). In
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    certain cases, however, the juvenile court can transfer jurisdiction over a child’s case to
    the adult court under the procedures outlined in R.C. 2152.10 and 2152.12.
    {¶ 54} Because Cunningham was under 16 when the acts alleged in this case
    occurred, and the acts alleged in the complaints would be felonies if committed by an
    adult, the juvenile court had discretion to transfer his case to the trial court. R.C.
    2152.10(B); R.C. 2152.12(B). To make a discretionary transfer, the juvenile court is
    required to make three findings: “(1) [t]he child was fourteen years of age or older at the
    time of the act charged[;] (2) [t]here is probable cause to believe that the child committed
    the act charged[; and] (3) [t]he child is not amenable to care or rehabilitation within the
    juvenile system, and the safety of the community may require that the child be subject to
    adult sanctions.” R.C. 2152.12(B)(1)-(3). The juvenile court is also required to “order an
    investigation into the child’s social history, education, family situation, and any other
    factor bearing on whether the child is amenable to juvenile rehabilitation, including a
    mental examination of the child * * *.” R.C. 2152.12(C).
    {¶ 55} To establish probable cause to believe that a juvenile committed an offense,
    the state must present “credible evidence that ‘raises more than a mere suspicion of guilt,
    but need not provide evidence proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.’” In re D.M.,
    
    140 Ohio St.3d 309
    , 
    2014-Ohio-3628
    , 
    18 N.E.3d 404
    , ¶ 10, quoting State v. Iacona, 
    93 Ohio St.3d 83
    , 93, 
    752 N.E.2d 937
     (2001). While the state is required to present credible
    evidence going to every element of the offense to establish probable cause, the evidence
    “does not have to be unassailable” to qualify as credible. (Emphasis added.) In re A.J.S.,
    24
    
    120 Ohio St.3d 185
    , 
    2008-Ohio-5307
    , 
    897 N.E.2d 629
    , ¶ 46, citing Iacona at 93, 95; In
    re D.M.S., 
    2021-Ohio-1214
    , 
    170 N.E.3d 61
    , ¶ 19 (2d Dist.), citing In re B.W., 2017-Ohio-
    9220, 
    103 N.E.3d 266
    , ¶ 21 (7th Dist.).
    {¶ 56} In making its probable cause determination, the juvenile court is required to
    evaluate the quality of the evidence that the state presents in support of probable cause, as
    well as any evidence that the juvenile presents attacking probable cause. Iacona at 93,
    citing Kent v. United States, 
    383 U.S. 541
    , 563, 
    86 S.Ct. 1045
    , 
    16 L.Ed.2d 84
     (1966).
    However, the Supreme Court has “expressly limited the [juvenile] court’s review of the
    evidence presented at the bindover hearing * * *” to the narrow issue of probable cause.
    A.J.S. at ¶ 43, citing Iacona at 96. That is, “while the juvenile court has a duty to assess
    the credibility of the evidence and to determine whether the state has presented credible
    evidence going to each element of the charged offense, it is not permitted to exceed the
    limited scope of the bindover hearing or to assume the role of the ultimate fact-finder.”
    Id. at ¶ 44.
    {¶ 57} After finding probable cause, the juvenile court must determine under R.C.
    2152.12(B)(3) whether the child is amenable to care or rehabilitation in the juvenile
    system and whether the safety of the community may require the child to face adult
    sanctions. To make this decision, the juvenile court is required to determine whether the
    factors in R.C. 2152.12(D) in favor of transferring jurisdiction “outweigh” the factors in
    R.C. 2152.12(E) in favor of retaining jurisdiction. As applicable to Cunningham, the
    R.C. 2152.12(D) factors in favor of transfer are:
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    (1) The victim of the act charged suffered physical or psychological
    harm, or serious economic harm, as a result of the alleged act.
    ***
    (5) The child had a firearm on or about the child’s person or under
    the child’s control at the time of the act charged, the act charged is not a
    violation of section 2923.12 of the Revised Code, and the child, during the
    commission of the act charged, allegedly used or displayed the firearm,
    brandished the firearm, or indicated that the child possessed a firearm.
    ***
    (8) The child is emotionally, physically, or psychologically mature
    enough for the transfer.
    ***
    And, as applicable to Cunningham, the R.C. 2152.12(E) factors in favor of retaining
    jurisdiction are:
    (5) The child previously has not been adjudicated a delinquent child.
    ***
    (8) There is sufficient time to rehabilitate the child within the
    juvenile system and the level of security available in the juvenile system
    provides a reasonable assurance of public safety.
    {¶ 58} When weighing these and any other relevant factors, the juvenile court has
    wide latitude in determining whether it should retain or relinquish jurisdiction over a
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    juvenile, and its decision will not be reversed absent an abuse of discretion. In re D.M.,
    6th Dist. Lucas Nos. L-16-1237, L-16-1238, and L-16-1270, 
    2017-Ohio-8768
    , ¶ 35,
    citing State v. Ramirez, 12th Dist. Butler No. CA2010-11-305, 
    2011-Ohio-6531
    . Abuse
    of discretion means that the juvenile court’s decision was unreasonable, arbitrary, or
    unconscionable. State ex rel. Askew v. Goldhart, 
    75 Ohio St.3d 608
    , 610, 
    665 N.E.2d 200
     (1996). “‘As long as the court considers the appropriate statutory factors and there is
    some rational basis in the record to support the court’s findings when applying those
    factors,’ a juvenile court’s decision to retain or relinquish jurisdiction will be upheld on
    appeal.” D.M. at ¶ 35, quoting State v. Phillips, 12th Dist. Clinton No. CA2009-03-001,
    
    2010-Ohio-2711
    , ¶ 39; see also State v. Blair, 5th Dist. Stark No. 2016CA00180, 2017-
    Ohio-5865, ¶ 30; State v. West, 
    167 Ohio App.3d 598
    , 
    2006-Ohio-3518
    , 
    856 N.E.2d 285
    ,
    ¶ 10 (4th Dist.).
    {¶ 59} Once the juvenile court decides to transfer jurisdiction, it is required to
    state on the record its reasons for transferring a case and indicate the specific factors in
    R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E) that it relied on in making its transfer determination. R.C.
    2152.12(B)(3), (I).
    2. Constitutional requirements
    {¶ 60} Transferring a juvenile’s case to adult court also implicates constitutional
    rights. Due-process rights are applicable to juveniles through the Due Process Clause of
    the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article I, Section 16 of
    the Ohio Constitution. State v. Aalim, 
    150 Ohio St.3d 489
    , 
    2017-Ohio-2956
    , 
    83 N.E.3d 27
    883, ¶ 23, citing In re C.S., 
    115 Ohio St.3d 267
    , 
    2007-Ohio-4919
    , 
    874 N.E.2d 1177
    , ¶ 79;
    In re Gault, 
    387 U.S. 1
    , 41, 
    87 S.Ct. 1428
    , 
    18 L.Ed.2d 527
     (1967); and In re C.P., 
    131 Ohio St.3d 513
    , 
    2012-Ohio-1446
    , 
    967 N.E.2d 729
    , ¶ 71. Thus, in addition to complying
    with the statutory requirements in R.C. 2152.12, transfer hearings must also protect a
    child’s due process rights.
    {¶ 61} The Ohio Supreme Court has said that “in the context of a juvenile-court
    proceeding, the term ‘due process’ ‘“expresses the requirement of ‘fundamental fairness,’
    a requirement whose meaning can be as opaque as its importance is lofty.”’” 
    Id.,
     quoting
    C.S. at ¶ 80, quoting Lassiter v. Dept. of Social Servs. of Durham Cty., North Carolina,
    
    452 U.S. 18
    , 24, 
    101 S.Ct. 2153
    , 
    68 L.Ed.2d 640
     (1981). Based on the circumstances of
    the case, “[a] court’s task is to ascertain what process is due * * * while being true to the
    core concept of due process in a juvenile case—to ensure orderliness and fairness.” C.S.
    at ¶ 81, citing McKeiver v. Pennsylvania, 
    403 U.S. 528
    , 541, 
    91 S.Ct. 1976
    , 
    29 L.Ed.2d 647
     (1971) (plurality opinion).
    {¶ 62} The Ohio Supreme Court, echoing precedent set by the Supreme Court of
    the United States, has outlined the scope of due process protections in the juvenile
    transfer process, finding that a transfer should not occur “‘without ceremony—without
    hearing, without effective assistance of counsel, without a statement of reasons.’” State
    v. D.W., 
    133 Ohio St.3d 434
    , 
    2012-Ohio-4544
    , 
    978 N.E.2d 894
    , ¶ 20, quoting Kent, 
    383 U.S. at 554
    , 
    86 S.Ct. 1045
    , 
    16 L.Ed.2d 84
    . A “bindover hearing is a ‘critically important
    proceeding’ and [] the hearing ‘must measure up to the essentials of due process and fair
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    treatment.’” D.M., 
    140 Ohio St.3d 309
    , 
    2014-Ohio-3628
    , 
    18 N.E.3d 404
    , at ¶ 11, quoting
    Kent at 562; see also D.W. at ¶ 20 (“The safeguard of a hearing is contained in the
    Revised Code and Rules of Juvenile Procedure, and it is grounded in due process and
    other constitutional protections.”); Aalim at ¶ 25. However, despite the transfer hearing
    being a “critically important” hearing that “directs the proceedings down one of two
    paths with drastically different potential outcomes, [a child’s] liberty is not yet at stake *
    * *, [and] further proceedings before a factfinder are required to determine whether [the
    child] committed the charged offenses beyond a reasonable doubt.” State v. Garner, 6th
    Dist. Lucas No. L-18-1269, 
    2020-Ohio-4939
    , ¶ 24.
    B. Probable cause arguments
    1. Cunningham forfeited his arguments regarding the constitutionality
    of the probable cause standard in R.C. 2152.12(B).
    {¶ 63} We first address Cunningham’s sixth assignment of error. In it, he argues
    that the standard for probable cause in R.C. 2152.12(B) violates his right to procedural
    due process. He contends that due process and fair treatment require more than “minimal
    certainty” before “subjecting a child to the rigors of adult prosecution and punishment.”
    {¶ 64} The state responds that Cunningham forfeited this issue by failing to raise it
    in the juvenile court, and that any error does not rise to the level of plain error. Further,
    the state argues that Cunningham failed to show that he had a fundamental liberty interest
    at stake at the time of the transfer hearing, the standard for probable cause requires the
    state to show more than minimal certainty before a child can be bound over to the adult
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    court, and Cunningham does not attempt to propose a different standard or definition of
    probable cause.
    {¶ 65} Initially, we agree with the state that Cunningham forfeited this issue by
    failing to raise it in the either the juvenile court or the trial court.
    {¶ 66} An appellant who fails to challenge the constitutionality of a statute in the
    trial court forfeits all but plain-error review on appeal. State v. Quarterman, 
    140 Ohio St.3d 464
    , 
    2014-Ohio-4034
    , 
    19 N.E.3d 900
    , ¶ 2. Plain error is error that affects
    substantial rights. Crim.R. 52(B). Three things are required to make an error a “plain
    error”: (1) there must be an error, i.e., a deviation from a legal rule; (2) the error must be
    plain, i.e., the error “must be an ‘obvious’ defect in the trial proceedings”; and (3) the
    error must have affected a defendant’s substantial rights, i.e., “the trial court’s error must
    have affected the outcome of * * *” the proceedings. State v. Barnes, 
    94 Ohio St.3d 21
    ,
    27, 
    759 N.E.2d 1240
     (2002). Plain error should be found “only in exceptional
    circumstances and only to prevent a manifest miscarriage of justice.” State v. Hill, 
    92 Ohio St.3d 191
    , 203, 
    749 N.E.2d 274
     (2001), citing State v. Long, 
    53 Ohio St.2d 91
    , 
    372 N.E.2d 804
     (1978), paragraph three of the syllabus.
    {¶ 67} The appellant has the burden of demonstrating that plain error occurred.
    Quarterman at ¶ 2. In the context of a juvenile transfer hearing, to show the prejudice
    necessary to establish plain error, the appellant must “prove that the error affected the
    outcome of the proceeding, that is, that he would not have been bound over to the adult
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    court” but for the alleged error. State v. Morgan, 
    153 Ohio St.3d 196
    , 
    2017-Ohio-7565
    ,
    
    103 N.E.3d 784
    , ¶ 52.
    {¶ 68} Here, Cunningham argues that the juvenile court erred by using the
    probable cause standard for bindover hearings established more than two decades ago in
    Iacona, 
    93 Ohio St.3d 83
    , 
    752 N.E.2d 937
    . But he does not even attempt to argue that
    the court committed plain error by using this standard. In short, although Cunningham
    contends that there was an error—i.e., violation of his procedural due process rights—he
    does not explain how this error was obvious or argue that he would not have been bound
    over to the trial court but for the juvenile court’s use of the probable cause standard in
    Iacona.2 “We are not obligated to search the record or formulate legal arguments on
    behalf of the parties, because appellate courts do not sit as self-directed boards of legal
    inquiry and research, but [preside] essentially as arbiters of legal questions presented and
    argued by the parties before them.” (Brackets sic and internal quotations omitted.)
    Quarterman at ¶ 19, citing State v. Bodyke, 
    126 Ohio St.3d 266
    , 
    2010-Ohio-2424
    , 
    933 N.E.2d 753
    , ¶ 78 (O’Donnell, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part); and Carducci
    v. Regan, 
    714 F.2d 171
    , 177 (D.C.Cir.1983).
    {¶ 69} Because Cunningham did not argue plain error regarding the probable
    cause standard, we decline to find it. Cunningham’s sixth assignment of error is not well-
    taken.
    2. The state presented sufficient evidence to support
    2
    Cunningham also fails to propose an alternative standard for probable cause in
    discretionary transfer hearings that would satisfy procedural due process.
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    the juvenile court’s finding of probable cause.
    {¶ 70} In his fifth assignment of error, Cunningham argues that the state presented
    only “minimal” evidence at the probable cause hearing that raised “many questions”
    about Cunningham’s “actual involvement” in the shooting. He claims that these
    questions led to the juvenile court finding probable cause without the state presenting the
    required credible evidence.
    {¶ 71} The state responds that the evidence it presented at the probable cause
    hearing was legally sufficient to support the juvenile court’s probable cause finding, and
    that it was not required to disprove alternate theories of the case before the juvenile court
    could find probable cause.
    {¶ 72} A juvenile court’s probable cause determination presents a mixed question
    of law and fact. A.J.S., 
    120 Ohio St.3d 185
    , 
    2008-Ohio-5307
    , 
    897 N.E.2d 629
    , at ¶ 51.
    In reviewing that decision, we defer to the juvenile court’s findings of fact, as long as
    they are supported by some competent, credible evidence. State v. Taylor, 6th Dist.
    Lucas No. L-15-1309, 
    2017-Ohio-139
    , ¶ 15, citing A.J.S. at ¶ 50. But we review de novo
    the court’s legal conclusion of whether the state presented sufficient evidence to
    demonstrate probable cause to believe that the juvenile committed the acts charged. 
    Id.
    {¶ 73} After hearing the evidence, the juvenile court said that the following facts
    supported its probable cause determination: (1) Cunningham was “shooting in the
    direction of where the victim was”; (2) “[e]verybody stipulated that there was a murder,
    that [C.C.] was shot to death”; and (3) there were no shell casings found at the scene,
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    either inside the bar near C.C.’s body—like there would have been if someone inside the
    bar killed him—or on the patio near where Cunningham shot his gun, “[b]ut we saw
    Tacarie bend down to pick something up.” The juvenile court’s finding that
    “[e]verybody stipulated that there was a murder, that [C.C.] was shot to death” is
    incorrect. The parties stipulated that “the victim in this case is deceased[,]” but did not
    agree to anything more than that. The remainder of the court’s factual findings are
    supported by some competent, credible evidence, so we will use those facts to determine
    if the evidence is legally sufficient to support a finding of probable cause.
    {¶ 74} In this case, Cunningham was charged with felony murder, felonious
    assault, and tampering with evidence.
    {¶ 75} To establish probable cause for felony murder, the state had to provide
    credible evidence that Cunningham caused the death of C.C. as a proximate result of
    committing or attempting to commit an offense of violence that is a first- or second-
    degree felony. R.C. 2903.02(B). Felonious assault in violation of R.C. 2903.11(A)(2) is
    a second-degree felony offense of violence. R.C. 2903.11(D)(1)(a); R.C.
    2901.01(A)(9)(a).
    {¶ 76} To establish probable cause for felonious assault, the state had to provide
    credible evidence that Cunningham caused or attempted to cause physical harm to
    another by means of a deadly weapon. R.C. 2903.11(A)(2). “Physical harm” is “any
    injury, illness, or other physiological impairment, regardless of its gravity or duration.”
    R.C. 2901.01(A)(3). A gun is a deadly weapon. In re Marcus T.D., 6th Dist. Lucas No.
    33
    L-02-1376, 
    2004-Ohio-477
    , ¶ 9; R.C. 2923.11(A), (B); see also State v. Vondenberg, 
    61 Ohio St.2d 285
    , 289, 
    401 N.E.2d 437
     (1980) (trier of fact can draw reasonable inferences
    about the deadly nature of a weapon used in the commission of a crime).
    {¶ 77} And to establish probable cause for tampering with evidence, the state had
    to provide credible evidence that Cunningham knew that an investigation was in progress
    or was likely to be instituted and concealed or removed potential evidence with the
    purpose to impair the potential evidence’s value or availability in the investigation. R.C.
    2921.12(A)(1); State v. Straley, 
    139 Ohio St.3d 339
    , 
    2014-Ohio-2139
    , 
    11 N.E.3d 1175
    , ¶
    11. A person acts “knowingly,” regardless of his purpose, when he is aware that his
    conduct will probably cause a certain result or will probably be of a certain nature. R.C.
    2901.22(B). A person has knowledge of circumstances when he is aware that such
    circumstances probably exist. 
    Id.
     An offender’s knowledge of a likely investigation can
    be inferred when the crime is a type—such as a shooting death in a public place—that is
    likely to be reported, and the likelihood of an investigation is measured at the time of the
    alleged tampering. State v. Martin, 
    151 Ohio St.3d 470
    , 
    2017-Ohio-7556
    , 
    90 N.E.3d 857
    ,
    ¶ 110, 116, 118 (“As a matter of common sense, we can infer that a person who had shot
    two people and left them for dead in a residential neighborhood would know that an
    investigation was likely. * * * Homicides are highly likely to be discovered and
    investigated.”). A person acts “purposely” when it is his intention to cause a certain
    result. R.C. 2901.22(A).
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    {¶ 78} The evidence at the probable cause hearing showed that a person—
    positively identified as Cunningham—pointed and fired a gun at an area where C.C. had
    been standing shortly before the shooting. After Cunningham fired the gun, C.C. was
    found inside the building, which was in the direction that Cunningham aimed, with a
    gunshot wound. The parties stipulated that C.C. was dead, and Mussery, after
    investigating the crime, believed that he had died by “gunfire.” Taken together, this
    shows that Cunningham shot a gun—a deadly weapon—which fired a bullet that
    presumably hit C.C., causing physical harm to C.C. and ultimately leading to his death.
    This evidence—although far from complete or perfect—is sufficient to “raise[] more than
    a mere suspicion of [Cunningham’s] guilt * * *” of felonious assault and felony murder,
    which is all that is required at the probable cause hearing. Iacona, 93 Ohio St.3d at 93,
    
    752 N.E.2d 937
    .
    {¶ 79} Additionally, the state presented evidence that Cunningham returned to the
    patio and picked up something approximately one minute after shooting the gun.
    Mussery’s law enforcement experience led him to believe that Cunningham picked up
    shell casings because of where Cunningham was standing when he shot the gun, where
    he bent down to pick up the item, and the fact that no shell casings were recovered from
    the patio or inside the bar. The juvenile court found Mussery’s testimony credible on this
    point, and we defer to the juvenile court’s findings of fact. We can infer that
    Cunningham knew that the police were likely to investigate a shooting at a bar,
    particularly when the shooting resulted in someone’s death. See Martin at ¶ 110, 116,
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    118. We can also infer that Cunningham’s purpose in removing shell casings from the
    patio—where a shooting just happened—was to impair their value or availability in the
    forthcoming investigation. State v. Smith, 6th Dist. Lucas No. L-14-1224, 2016-Ohio-
    150, ¶ 24 (it is reasonable to infer that a person who picks up shell casings after a
    shooting and removes them from the place where the shooting happened does so to
    impair their availability as evidence in an investigation); State v. Hallman, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 103675, 
    2016-Ohio-3465
    , ¶ 15. Taken together, this is sufficient to
    “raise[] more than a mere suspicion of [Cunningham’s] guilt * * *” of tampering with
    evidence. Iacona at 93.
    {¶ 80} Cunningham complains that the state’s evidence creates more questions
    about the circumstances of the crimes than it does answers, and that there were
    potentially other explanations for how C.C. ended up dead, which, he claims, shows a
    lack of credible evidence supporting the juvenile court’s probable cause determination.
    However, as the juvenile court pointed out, it was not required to find that the state
    proved the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. Relatedly, the state’s evidence was only
    required to be credible; it did not have to be unassailable, as Cunningham seems to
    argue. A.J.S., 
    120 Ohio St.3d 185
    , 
    2008-Ohio-5307
    , 
    897 N.E.2d 629
    , at ¶ 46; D.M.S.,
    
    2021-Ohio-1214
    , 
    170 N.E.3d 61
    , at ¶ 19. Moreover, the state is not required to disprove
    alternate theories of the crime at the probable cause hearing, and the juvenile court
    oversteps its limited, gatekeeping role if it weighs the merits of competing prosecution
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    and defense theories of the case, which are matters for the ultimate trier of fact. A.J.S. at
    ¶ 43, 61.
    {¶ 81} In sum, the juvenile court’s findings of fact (with the exception of its
    misstatement about the parties’ stipulation regarding the fact of C.C.’s death) were
    supported by some competent, credible evidence. And the state presented credible
    evidence of each element of the crimes charged sufficient to raise more than a mere
    suspicion of Cunningham’s guilt of felony murder, felonious assault, and tampering with
    evidence. Accordingly, the juvenile court did not err by finding probable cause to believe
    that Cunningham committed the crimes.
    {¶ 82} Cunningham’s fifth assignment of error is not well-taken.
    C. Amenability issues
    1. Cunningham’s constitutional rights were not
    violated during the amenability phase.
    {¶ 83} In his first assignment of error, Cunningham argues that the juvenile court
    violated his rights to due process, fundamental fairness, and the presumption of
    innocence by presuming that he was guilty before determining whether he was amenable
    to care or rehabilitation in the juvenile system. The court’s improper focus on his guilt,
    combined with Sherman’s improper focus on his lack of remorse, he claims, led to the
    court finding him not amenable and improperly transferring him to adult court.
    {¶ 84} The state responds that the factors listed in R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E) that
    the juvenile court must weigh in making its amenability determination are written in a
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    way that requires the court to assume that the juvenile committed the acts charged. It
    argues that the court did not violate any of Cunningham’s rights by following the
    requirements of the statute and that a child’s level of remorse is routinely considered in
    amenability hearings.
    {¶ 85} We agree with Cunningham that the juvenile court misspoke when it stated
    that it was required to “assume guilt” during the amenability phase. But, upon review of
    the entire proceedings, we do not find any evidence to suggest that this single
    misstatement affected the fundamental fairness of the amenability hearing.
    {¶ 86} As a preliminary matter, we cannot deny that the outcome of a transfer
    hearing has significant consequences for a juvenile. See State v. Smith, 
    167 Ohio St.3d 423
    , 
    2022-Ohio-274
    , -- N.E.3d --, ¶ 21, quoting Aalim, 
    150 Ohio St.3d 489
    , 2017-Ohio-
    2956, 
    83 N.E.3d 883
    , at ¶ 73 (O’Connor, C.J., dissenting) (“The transfer hearing * * *
    serves as a vehicle by which a child offender is deprived of the rehabilitation and
    treatment potential of the juvenile-justice system.”). However, an amenability hearing, at
    its core, is nothing more than a hearing to determine the forum that will ultimately hear
    the child’s case and determine his guilt or innocence. State v. LaRosa, 11th Dist.
    Trumbull No. 2018-T-0097, 
    2020-Ohio-160
    , ¶ 36 (“[T]he purpose of the amenability
    determination is establishing which forum will ultimately hear the case—the juvenile
    division or the general division.); State v. McKinney, 
    2015-Ohio-4398
    , 
    46 N.E.3d 179
    , ¶
    13 (1st Dist.) (“The bindover proceeding simply changed the forum in which
    [appellant’s] guilt or innocence was to be determined.”). As a consequence, neither a
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    juvenile’s liberty interests nor his presumption of innocence are implicated at the
    amenability hearing. Garner, 6th Dist. Lucas No. L-18-1269, 
    2020-Ohio-4939
    , at ¶ 24
    (Although a transfer hearing is a “critically important” hearing that “directs the
    proceedings down one of two paths with drastically different potential outcomes, [a
    child’s] liberty is not yet at stake * * *, [and] further proceedings before a factfinder are
    required to determine whether [the child] committed the charged offenses beyond a
    reasonable doubt.”); LaRosa at ¶ 36 (“a presumption of innocence is not relevant during
    an amenability determination * * *”); McKinney at ¶ 13 (“We question whether the
    transfer of jurisdiction implicates the Due Process Clause at all. The transfer didn’t
    deprive [appellant] of his liberty. That happened later, when the general division of the
    common pleas court found him guilty and imposed sentence.”). Because the presumption
    of innocence is not implicated during an amenability hearing, we find that the juvenile
    court did not violate Cunningham’s constitutional rights in making its amenability
    determination.
    {¶ 87} Moreover, although the factors in R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E) are written so
    that a juvenile court can, as much as practicable, consider an accused juvenile-offender’s
    amenability without encroaching upon the child’s presumption of innocence by
    repeatedly referring to “the alleged act,” “the act charged,” and the child “allegedly
    committing” the act, it would be impossible for the court to consider the child’s
    amenability to treatment and rehabilitation in the juvenile system without considering the
    child’s role in the act and, at least to some extent, his level of culpability. See, e.g., R.C.
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    2152.12(D)(1) (“The victim of the act charged suffered physical or psychological harm,
    or serious economic harm, as a result of the alleged act.”), (E)(2) (“The child acted under
    provocation in allegedly committing the act charged.”); see also State v. Watson, 
    47 Ohio St.3d 93
    , 96, 
    547 N.E.2d 1181
     (1989) (“Generally the greater the culpability of the
    offense, the less amenable will the juvenile be to rehabilitation.”). Thus, while the statute
    does not direct the juvenile court to “assume” that an accused juvenile-offender is
    “guilty” at the amenability stage, it is unrealistic to expect that issues of culpability will
    be entirely absent from an amenability hearing.
    {¶ 88} Further, we find Cunningham’s claims that the juvenile court was
    “confus[ed]” by Sherman’s opinions that Cunningham was not amenable to staying in the
    juvenile system because of his guilt and lack of remorse are unavailing.
    {¶ 89} Under R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E), the juvenile court is required to consider
    “any other relevant factors * * *” in determining whether the factors in favor of retaining
    jurisdiction over a child outweigh the factors in favor of relinquishing jurisdiction.
    (Emphasis added.) “Although the seriousness of the crime is not a factor specified under
    R.C. 2152.12(D), the juvenile court is permitted to consider it in making a discretionary
    bindover decision.” State v. Erwin, 10th Dist. Franklin No. 09AP-918, 
    2012-Ohio-776
    , ¶
    11, citing Watson at syllabus. Similarly, although it is not listed in the statute, “the
    remorse of a juvenile offender is regularly discussed and presented to the court in aid of
    determining whether the offender is amenable to rehabilitation within the juvenile
    system.” LaRosa at ¶ 37 (collecting cases).
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    {¶ 90} First, we find that Cunningham misconstrues Sherman’s opinion regarding
    Cunningham’s “guilt.” Sherman did not say that Cunningham was not amenable to
    staying in the juvenile system because he was guilty. He opined that, if Cunningham
    actually committed the murder, he was not amenable to staying in the juvenile system
    because of the way in which the murder was committed. The distinction is important.
    The information that Sherman had available to him during his evaluation led him to
    conclude that “[t]he nature of this offense, however, (if indeed he committed it) is a cause
    of serious concern in terms of future amenability.” (Emphasis added.) That is, Sherman
    was concerned about the nature and circumstances of the offenses that Cunningham was
    charged with and what those meant for Cunningham’s amenability (i.e., if Cunningham
    was the lone actor and sole shooter who murdered someone without expressing remorse,
    and denied his involvement despite apparent evidence to the contrary, Sherman was
    concerned that Cunningham was not amenable to treatment in the juvenile system).
    Sherman did not say that Cunningham was not amenable because he committed a crime;
    he said that Cunningham was not amenable if he committed this specific crime because of
    the specific details of the crime. This took into account the nature of the acts that
    Cunningham was charged with, which was an appropriate consideration. Erwin at ¶ 11.
    The juvenile court did not err by relying on Sherman’s opinion regarding the nature of
    the crimes as they related to Cunningham’s amenability.
    {¶ 91} Second, Sherman testified that Cunningham’s apparent lack of remorse was
    a sign of “an incipient antisocial character which would make it almost beyond the realm
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    of treatment, certainly beyond the realm of treatment with the current situation of
    DYS[,]” which is certainly relevant to the juvenile court’s amenability determination. He
    also testified that what came across as a lack of remorse could have been the product of
    Cunningham’s professed innocence and general guardedness from being in an unfamiliar
    situation with an unfamiliar person. This information was all relevant to the juvenile
    court’s amenability determination, and the trial court did not err by relying on it.
    {¶ 92} In sum, nothing about the amenability hearing was fundamentally unfair.
    Cunningham’s presumption of innocence was not implicated at the amenability stage, and
    the factors that the juvenile court considered were proper. Therefore, we find that
    Cunningham’s first assignment of error is not well-taken.
    2. Cunningham forfeited his arguments about
    the constitutionality of R.C. 2152.12(B).
    {¶ 93} In his third assignment of error, Cunningham argues that R.C. 2152.12(B)
    is unconstitutional because it does not specify the level of proof needed to show that a
    child is not amenable to care or rehabilitation in the juvenile system or allocate the
    burden of proof. He contends that the state, as the proponent of the transfer, should be
    allocated the burden of proof, and that it should have to prove that the child is not
    amenable by clear and convincing evidence.3
    3
    The Supreme Court of Ohio accepted issues similar to those that Cunningham argues in
    his third and fourth assignments of error in State v. Nicholas, Supreme Court case No.
    2020-1429. The case has been argued and is pending a decision on three propositions of
    law:
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    {¶ 94} The state responds that Cunningham forfeited this issue by failing to raise it
    in the juvenile court. Assuming that he did not forfeit the issue, the state contends that
    R.C. 2152.12(B)(3) is constitutional on its face because, as Cunningham points out in his
    brief, the use of “outweigh” in the statute suggests a preponderance-of-the-evidence
    standard, so the statute is not silent on the issue of the burden of proof. The state also
    contends that the statutory scheme intentionally does not have a burden of persuasion;
    instead, each side is permitted to “present relevant and competent evidence to assist the
    court in its determination of which statutory factors are applicable and whether the
    juvenile is amenable to treatment in the juvenile system.”
    {¶ 95} Like with the constitutionality of the probable cause standard, Cunningham
    did not raise this issue in the juvenile court or the trial court, so he has forfeited all but
    plain-error review. Quarterman, 
    140 Ohio St.3d 464
    , 
    2014-Ohio-4034
    , 
    19 N.E.3d 900
    , at
    ¶ 2. And, like with his sixth assignment of error, Cunningham does not attempt to make
    a plain-error argument regarding the constitutionality of R.C. 2152.12(B), and we are not
    First Proposition of Law: Because standards of review are functions
    of due process, non-amenability decisions must be supported by clear and
    convincing evidence[.]
    Second Proposition of Law: As the party moving for discretionary
    transfer under R.C. 2152.12(B), prosecutors bear the burden of proving the
    child is not amenable to juvenile court treatment. A transfer decision
    without any affirmative proof of non-amenability must be reversed[.]
    Third Proposition of Law: To meaningfully decide whether juvenile
    offenders are not amenable to juvenile court treatment, juvenile judges
    must first weigh all the available dispositional options, especially, where
    provided by statute, a serious youthful offender disposition[.]
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    required to make one for him. Id. at ¶ 19. Accordingly, Cunningham’s third assignment
    of error is not well-taken.
    3. The juvenile court did not abuse its discretion
    by finding Cunningham amenable to transfer.
    {¶ 96} In his second assignment of error, Cunningham argues that the juvenile
    court erred by finding that he was not amenable to care or rehabilitation within the
    juvenile system because it did not fully consider the reasons that Cunningham was
    amenable to staying in the juvenile system, such as his signs of immaturity, or clearly
    articulate its reasons for deciding to transfer the case. He contends that the court should
    have specifically explained why Cunningham could not be rehabilitated in the time
    before he turned 21 and what rehabilitation goals could and could not be accomplished
    before Cunningham aged out of the juvenile system. He also argues that the juvenile
    court’s amenability decision was not supported by clear and convincing evidence.
    {¶ 97} The state responds that the juvenile court considered the statutory factors
    and there is a rational basis in the record to support its amenability finding, so the court
    did not abuse its discretion by finding that Cunningham was not amenable to remaining
    in the juvenile system.
    {¶ 98} Cunningham’s argument against the juvenile court’s amenability
    determination is threefold: (1) the court improperly weighed the factors, (2) the court
    provided insufficient justification for its findings, and (3) the court improperly relied on
    Sherman’s “flawed” report. We address each argument in turn.
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    a. Weight of the factors
    {¶ 99} First, Cunningham argues that the juvenile court “did not consider all the
    reasons Tacarie was amenable to treatment in the juvenile system.” Specifically,
    Cunningham complains that the court did not consider that (1) he “had limited juvenile
    court involvement and had never participated in any programming through the juvenile
    court or been incarcerated”; (2) the court’s concerns for public safety could be addressed
    by the “myriad of options that combine treatment and locked placement * * *” in the
    juvenile system; and (3) he was not mature enough for transfer because he “showed signs
    of immaturity when meeting with Dr. Sherman and by putting himself in a bad situation
    the night of the offense by being at an after-hours night club where multiple people had
    weapons.”
    {¶ 100} The juvenile court’s wide latitude to determine whether to retain or
    relinquish jurisdiction over a child’s case means that the court also has the discretion to
    decide how much weight to give to each factor in R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E). In re M.A.,
    12th Dist. Brown No. CA2018-07-005, 
    2019-Ohio-829
    , ¶ 33, citing State v. Everhardt,
    3d Dist. Hancock No. 5-17-25, 
    2018-Ohio-1252
    , ¶ 22; and State v. Marshall, 1st Dist.
    Hamilton No. C-150383, 
    2016-Ohio-3184
    , ¶ 15. As long as the juvenile court considered
    the factors in the statute and the record contains some rational basis to support the court’s
    findings, we will not find that the court abused its discretion. D.M., 6th Dist. Lucas Nos.
    L-16-1237, L-16-1238, and L-16-1270, 
    2017-Ohio-8768
    , at ¶ 47. An appellant’s
    disagreement with the way the juvenile court weighed the factors is not a reason to
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    reverse the court’s decision. See State v. Ramsden, 12th Dist. Clinton No. CA2020-11-
    016, 
    2021-Ohio-3071
    , ¶ 23, appeal accepted 
    165 Ohio St.3d 1503
    , 
    2022-Ohio-85
    , 
    179 N.E.3d 118
     (“[G]iven that it is the juvenile court, and not [the appellate] court, that has
    the discretion to determine how much weight should be afforded to the factors set forth in
    R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E), [appellant’s] challenge to the weight that the juvenile court
    ultimately decided to attribute to each [of] those factors lacks merit.”).
    {¶ 101} Here, the juvenile court acknowledged that Cunningham did not have a
    history of involvement with the juvenile court and that he would have approximately five
    years to receive treatment if the juvenile court retained jurisdiction. Although the court
    did not get into the specifics of why it found that Cunningham was mature enough for
    transfer, the record contains Sherman’s testimony and report, which explain that he looks
    for “gross immaturity” that would weigh against transfer, rather than the general
    “characteristics of youth” that Cunningham points to in his brief (things that Sherman
    called “boyishness rather than maturity * * *” in his testimony). Sherman concluded that
    Cunningham was not living a 15-year-old’s lifestyle and behaved more like an adult than
    a child; two examples that Sherman pointed to were Cunningham traveling to Toledo
    from Dayton by himself without his mother’s knowledge and spending time at an after-
    hours bar. There is a rational basis in the record to support the court’s findings on these
    issues. Although Cunningham might have wanted the court to give these factors more
    weight or make a determination more in his favor, we cannot find that the juvenile court
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    abused its discretion regarding the issues of his lack of juvenile court involvement and his
    maturity for transfer.
    b. Specificity of findings
    {¶ 102} Next, Cunningham argues that the juvenile court did not make certain,
    highly-specific findings to justify its decision that he was not amenable to staying in the
    juvenile system. He relies on State v. D.H., 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 26383, 2015-Ohio-
    3259, in which a divided panel of the Second District reversed the juvenile court’s
    amenability determination because
    [t]he juvenile court’s entry under review contains insufficient factual
    findings to identify how the court reached its conclusion that D.H. could
    not be rehabilitated in the juvenile system. The entry does not identify
    which of the reports and records reviewed by the psychologist were also
    reviewed and considered by the court. The transcript reveals that no
    exhibits or documentary evidence were admitted in evidence at the
    amenability hearing * * *. The court does not identify or discuss what
    programs are, or are not, available in the juvenile system to satisfy the
    child’s health needs * * *. Additionally, the court does not make any
    specific findings about the child’s educational deficiencies, and does not
    identify what programs are, or are not, available in the juvenile system to
    meet D.H.’s educational needs. The * * * juvenile court’s findings contain
    no discussion of what rehabilitation goals can, or cannot, be accomplished
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    in the juvenile system * * *, or what programs are, or are not, available in
    the juvenile system to accomplish these goals. We note that if the juvenile
    court had denied the motion to transfer D.H., upon a finding of
    delinquency, the court could have imposed a number of different juvenile
    dispositions * * *. The juvenile court’s entry relinquishing jurisdiction did
    not discuss why none of these options would suffice to rehabilitate D.H. in
    the juvenile system, especially in light of the fact that he had no prior
    delinquency adjudications * * *.
    Id. at ¶ 17.
    {¶ 103} However, we—and numerous other districts—have observed that “‘other
    courts have never gone so far as the Second District in directing the juvenile court’s
    analysis’” in an amenability determination. D.M. at ¶ 47, quoting Blair, 5th Dist. Stark
    No. 2016CA00180, 
    2017-Ohio-5865
    , at ¶ 39; and citing State v. Reeder, 
    2016-Ohio-212
    ,
    
    57 N.E.3d 458
    , ¶ 18 (10th Dist.); Marshall at ¶ 15; and State v. Rice, 12th Dist. Butler
    No. CA2016-01-005, 
    2016-Ohio-5372
    , ¶ 18, fn. 2. In D.M., we rejected the nitpicky
    approach required by the Second District and “reiterate[d] that [a]s long as the court
    considers the appropriate statutory factors and there is some rational basis in the record to
    support the court’s findings when applying those factors, we cannot conclude that the
    [juvenile] court abused its discretion in deciding whether to transfer jurisdiction.” (First
    brackets added and internal quotation omitted.) 
    Id.
     We did not require the juvenile court
    to “‘individually analyze each and every possible avenue for juvenile rehabilitation and
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    decide that [D.M.] was not amenable to them.’” Id. at ¶ 50, quoting State v. Curtis, 3d
    Dist. Allen No. 1-15-55, 
    2016-Ohio-6978
    , ¶ 50. We see no reason to reverse course here.
    {¶ 104} The juvenile court’s transfer entry in this case is succinct, but it includes
    the factors that it found applicable and provides its reasons for relinquishing jurisdiction:
    “Although this youth would be in the juvenile system for 5 more years, it is not the
    amount of time but rather the nature of this crime that leads this Court to believe he
    would not be amenable to treatment within that period of time.” More importantly, the
    record in this case does not suffer from the deficiencies that the majority in D.H. found in
    its record. We have sufficient information to conduct a meaningful review of the juvenile
    court’s decision, including the testimony of Mussery and Sherman, Sherman’s report, the
    investigation report required by R.C. 2152.12(C), and a selection of Cunningham’s
    school records.
    {¶ 105} Because the record allows us to conduct a meaningful review of the
    juvenile court’s decision, we find that Cunningham’s argument regarding the specificity
    of the juvenile court’s findings lacks merit.
    c. Sherman’s report
    {¶ 106} Finally, Cunningham claims that the juvenile court was improperly
    influenced by Sherman’s “flawed” conclusions that Cunningham could not be
    rehabilitated because of the seriousness of the offense and his lack of remorse, while also
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    finding that, up until the shooting, there were no “absolute contraindications” to keeping
    Cunningham in the juvenile system.4
    {¶ 107} We have already determined that Cunningham’s perceived remorse and
    the seriousness of the offenses were proper considerations under the “any other relevant
    factors * * *” provisions in R.C. 2152.12(D) and (E). Erwin, 10th Dist. Franklin No.
    09AP-918, 
    2012-Ohio-776
    , at ¶ 11; LaRosa, 11th Dist. Trumbull No. 2018-T-0097,
    
    2020-Ohio-160
    , at ¶ 37. Thus, the fact the Sherman took these factors into consideration
    in reaching his conclusions does not make his report “flawed.” He was clear that his
    amenability recommendation hinged on whether Cunningham was actually involved in
    the crime because of the nature of the murder (i.e., if Cunningham was the shooter, he
    acted alone, did not appear to feel remorse about his participation, and potentially posted
    on Facebook about the victim being a “trophy”).
    {¶ 108} In reaching its amenability determination, the juvenile court interpreted
    Sherman’s recommendation to mean that “if [Cunningham is] guilty of this, then it
    doesn’t matter that there are six years left [for treatment in the juvenile system] * * *
    because this is such a cold blooded act, assuming that this—that he did this. It is cold
    blooded with no apparent motive * * *.” That fact, combined with the other factors in
    4
    Cunningham’s brief quotes Sherman as saying “that there was ‘nothing in Tacarie’s past
    that showed he would not be amenable to treatment.’” This statement does not appear in
    the juvenile court transcript or Sherman’s report. The closest statement in the transcript
    is Sherman agreeing when Cunningham’s attorney said, “Other than the offense for what
    we’re here, there is nothing in Tacarie’s history that shows he would not be amenable to
    the sanctions that could be produced.”
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    favor of transfer, led the court to conclude that the factors in favor of transfer outweighed
    the factors against transfer, that Cunningham was not amenable to care or rehabilitation
    in the juvenile system, and that the community needed to be protected from him. There is
    a rational basis in the record to support the juvenile court’s decision, so we cannot find
    that the court abused its discretion.
    {¶ 109} Cunningham’s second assignment of error is not well-taken.
    D. The juvenile court did not commit plain error by failing to explicitly
    consider the possibility of Cunningham receiving a SYO disposition.
    {¶ 110} In his fourth assignment of error, Cunningham argues that the juvenile
    court should have considered all possible dispositional options—including the possibility
    of a SYO disposition—before deciding to transfer his case to the trial court. He contends
    that the juvenile court’s failure to do so was plain error that prevented him from receiving
    treatment in the juvenile system, and that we should vacate his sentence and remand his
    case to the juvenile court.
    {¶ 111} In response, the state argues that Cunningham failed to show that the
    juvenile court committed plain error by not considering all possible disposition options
    before transferring the case, and, in any case, a SYO disposition is not an option unless
    the state elects to pursue it, which it did not do in this case.
    {¶ 112} At its most basic, a serious youthful offender disposition is a more
    restrictive disposition for juveniles who are not transferred to adult court that includes a
    stayed adult sentence, which is only imposed if the juvenile fails to successfully complete
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    the juvenile portion of his disposition. State v. D.H., 
    120 Ohio St.3d 540
    , 
    2009-Ohio-9
    ,
    
    901 N.E.2d 209
    , ¶ 18, citing R.C. 2152.11 and 2152.13. A juvenile court can only
    impose a SYO disposition if the prosecutor initiates the SYO process by indicting the
    child as a serious youthful offender, filing a bill of information designating the child as a
    serious youthful offender, or, until the prosecutor can get an indictment or information,
    including the SYO designation in the original juvenile complaint or filing a written notice
    of intent to seek a SYO disposition.5 R.C. 2152.13(A)(1)-(4).
    {¶ 113} Simply put, the procedural posture of Cunningham’s case meant that he
    was not eligible for a SYO disposition. First, his case was transferred out of the juvenile
    court, which immediately makes the definition of “serious youthful offender”
    inapplicable to him. R.C. 2152.02(W) (“‘Serious youthful offender’ means a person who
    is eligible for a mandatory SYO or discretionary SYO but who is not transferred to adult
    court under a mandatory or discretionary transfer * * *.” (Emphasis added.)).
    {¶ 114} Second, the juvenile court could not have imposed a SYO disposition
    even if it had retained jurisdiction because the state did not seek a SYO designation in
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    Except in cases where the juvenile court is required to impose a mandatory SYO
    disposition on juveniles who are subject to mandatory transfer because they were 16
    years or older at the time that they (1) allegedly committed an act that would be
    aggravated murder, murder, attempted aggravated murder, or attempted murder if
    committed by an adult or (2) allegedly committed an act that would be voluntary
    manslaughter, kidnapping, rape, aggravated arson, aggravated robbery, aggravated
    burglary, or first-degree-felony involuntary manslaughter if committed by an adult and
    the juvenile had a firearm on or about their person or under their control and displayed,
    brandished, indicated they possessed, or used the firearm to facilitate the commission of
    the act. R.C. 2152.13(A); R.C. 2152.121(B), (B)(3); R.C. 2152.12(A)(1)(a)(i),
    (A)(1)(b)(ii); R.C. 2152.02(BB).
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    this case. Because Cunningham was only 15 at the time of the shooting, he did not fall
    into the group of alleged delinquents who automatically receive a SYO designation.
    When the juvenile is under 16, nothing in the SYO statutes permits the juvenile court to
    designate the child as a serious youthful offender or impose a blended SYO dispositional
    sentence without some affirmative action from the state seeking the SYO designation and
    disposition. See R.C. 2152.13(A)(1)-(4); 2152.121(B)(3). As we discussed above, a
    juvenile court is not required to “individually analyze each and every possible avenue for
    juvenile rehabilitation and decide that [the juvenile] was not amenable to them” before
    deciding to transfer the case to adult court. (Internal quotation omitted.) D.M., 6th Dist.
    Lucas Nos. L-16-1237, L-16-1238, and L-16-1270, 
    2017-Ohio-8768
    , at ¶ 50. We think
    this is particularly true when asking the court to conduct an analysis would be a
    completely academic exercise in the absence of the state’s request for a SYO designation.
    {¶ 115} Both the Second District and the Tenth District have recently addressed
    this same issue and reached the same conclusion. See State v. Nicholas, 
    2020-Ohio-3478
    ,
    
    155 N.E.3d 304
    , ¶ 74-78 (2d Dist.), appeal allowed 
    161 Ohio St.3d 1439
    , 2021-Ohio-
    375, 
    162 N.E.3d 822
    ; and State v. L.A.B., 10th Dist. Franklin No. 20AP-120, 2021-Ohio-
    4323, ¶ 68-75, appeal allowed 
    166 Ohio St.3d 1483
    , 
    2022-Ohio-1284
    , 
    186 N.E.3d 815
    .
    As the Tenth District summarized its conclusion in L.A.B., at ¶ 75, because
    the juvenile court determined appellant was not amenable to care or
    rehabilitation within the juvenile system and granted the request for transfer
    to adult court, and where the state did not initiate the process for a SYO
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    disposition, appellant has failed to show the juvenile court erred in failing
    to consider a blended sentence as part of its amenability determination.
    We agree. Cunningham’s fourth assignment of error is not well-taken.
    E. Cunningham did not receive ineffective assistance of counsel.
    {¶ 116} In his final assignment of error, Cunningham argues that his trial counsel
    provided ineffective assistance by failing to advocate for a clear and convincing evidence
    standard of proof for the amenability hearing and failing to seek a SYO disposition. He
    claims that the outcome of his case would have been different if trial counsel had asked
    for these things, and that he was prejudiced by counsel’s failure.
    {¶ 117} The state responds that counsel cannot be found ineffective for failing to
    ask the juvenile court to “apply a standard of proof that is not supported by the law,” or
    seek an unavailable sentence, and that Cunningham was not prejudiced by either of these
    things.
    {¶ 118} To prevail on a claim of ineffective assistance of counsel, the appellant
    must show that counsel’s conduct so undermined the proper functioning of the
    adversarial process that the trial court cannot be relied on as having produced a just
    result. Strickland v. Washington, 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 686, 
    104 S.Ct. 2052
    , 
    80 L.Ed.2d 674
    (1984). Properly licensed Ohio lawyers are presumed to be competent, State v. Gondor,
    
    112 Ohio St.3d 377
    , 
    2006-Ohio-6679
    , 
    860 N.E.2d 77
    , ¶ 62, and there are “countless”
    ways for an attorney to provide effective assistance in a case, so “‘[j]udicial scrutiny of
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    counsel’s performance must be highly deferential.’” State v. Bradley, 
    42 Ohio St.3d 136
    ,
    142, 
    538 N.E.2d 373
     (1989), quoting Strickland at 689.
    {¶ 119} To establish ineffective assistance of counsel, the appellant must show
    “(1) deficient performance of counsel, i.e., performance falling below an objective
    standard of reasonable representation, and (2) prejudice, i.e., a reasonable probability
    that, but for counsel’s errors, the proceeding’s result would have been different.” State v.
    Hale, 
    119 Ohio St.3d 118
    , 
    2008-Ohio-3426
    , 
    892 N.E.2d 864
    , ¶ 204. “‘A reasonable
    probability is a probability sufficient to undermine confidence in the outcome.’” State v.
    Sanders, 
    94 Ohio St.3d 150
    , 151, 
    761 N.E.2d 18
     (2002), quoting Strickland at 694.
    {¶ 120} Counsel is “strongly presumed” to have rendered adequate assistance and
    “the defendant must overcome the presumption that, under the circumstances, the
    challenged action ‘might be considered sound trial strategy.’” State v. Smith, 
    17 Ohio St.3d 98
    , 100, 
    477 N.E.2d 1128
     (1985), quoting Strickland at 694-695. Generally, trial
    strategy and tactical decisions—even debatable ones—cannot form the basis of a claim of
    ineffective assistance of counsel. State v. Grissom, 6th Dist. Erie No. E-08-008, 2009-
    Ohio-2603, ¶ 22
    {¶ 121} Cunningham first argues that his trial counsel was ineffective for failing to
    ask for a SYO disposition. However, as discussed under the fourth assignment of error,
    Cunningham was not eligible for a SYO disposition because his case was in the adult
    court and the state did not seek the SYO designation, so we cannot say that counsel acted
    unreasonably in failing to ask the court to impose a SYO sentence. Counsel is not
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    required to raise meritless issues. State v. Jones, 
    91 Ohio St.3d 335
    , 354, 
    744 N.E.2d 1163
     (2001), citing State v. Taylor, 
    78 Ohio St.3d 15
    , 31, 
    676 N.E.2d 82
     (1997). Even if
    trial counsel had asked for a SYO blended sentence, it is highly unlikely that the juvenile
    court would have granted the request (because it is unsupported by the SYO statutes), so
    there is no reasonable probability that the request would have changed the outcome of the
    case.
    {¶ 122} We also find that trial counsel’s performance did not fall below an
    objective standard of reasonable representation regarding the standard of proof for the
    amenability hearing. Although Cunningham claims that “the burden of proof at an
    amenability hearing is not settled[,]” and his attorney should have taken the opportunity
    to advocate for a different standard of proof, the case law does not show conflicts among
    the districts or any confusion about how juvenile courts are to make their amenability
    determinations. And Cunningham cannot show that he was prejudiced by counsel’s
    failure to ask for a new standard of proof because the juvenile court used the standard that
    Cunningham wanted his counsel to advocate for. In its transfer entry, the juvenile court
    said that it was “clearly convinced” that the factors in favor of transfer outweighed the
    factors against transfer, which indicates that the court found Cunningham not amenable
    by clear and convincing evidence.
    {¶ 123} Because Cunningham cannot demonstrate that his counsel’s performance
    fell below an objective standard of reasonable representation, or that he was prejudiced
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    by counsel’s alleged failings, Cunningham cannot prove that he received ineffective
    assistance of counsel. Accordingly, his seventh assignment of error is not well-taken.
    III.   Conclusion
    {¶ 124} For the foregoing reasons, the June 11, 2021 judgment of the Lucas
    County Court of Common Pleas is affirmed. Cunningham is ordered to pay the costs of
    this appeal pursuant to App.R. 24.
    Judgment affirmed.
    A certified copy of this entry shall constitute the mandate pursuant to App.R. 27.
    See also 6th Dist.Loc.App.R. 4.
    Mark L. Pietrykowski, J.                         ____________________________
    JUDGE
    Thomas J. Osowik, J.
    ____________________________
    Christine E. Mayle, J.                                   JUDGE
    CONCUR.
    ____________________________
    JUDGE
    This decision is subject to further editing by the Supreme Court of
    Ohio’s Reporter of Decisions. Parties interested in viewing the final reported
    version are advised to visit the Ohio Supreme Court’s web site at:
    http://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/ROD/docs/.
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