State v. See , 2020 Ohio 2923 ( 2020 )


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  •          [Cite as State v. See, 
    2020-Ohio-2923
    .]
    IN THE COURT OF APPEALS
    FIRST APPELLATE DISTRICT OF OHIO
    HAMILTON COUNTY, OHIO
    STATE OF OHIO,                                     :   APPEAL NOS. C-190251
    C-190252
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                        :   TRIAL NOS. B-1706834
    B-1803242A
    vs.                                              :
    O P I N I O N.
    HERMAN SEE,                                        :
    Defendant-Appellant.                           :
    Criminal Appeals From: Hamilton County Court of Common Pleas
    Judgments Appealed From Are: Affirmed
    Date of Judgment Entry on Appeal: May 13, 2020
    Joseph T. Deters, Hamilton County Prosecuting Attorney, and Mary Stier, Assistant
    Prosecuting Attorney, for Plaintiff-Appellee,
    Timothy J. McKenna, for Defendant-Appellant.
    OHIO FIRST DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS
    CROUSE, Judge.
    {¶1}    This case involves the sexual abuse of three children over the course of
    15 years. The victims were biological or stepdaughters of the defendant-appellant
    Herman See and his codefendant and girlfriend Angela Stites. The charges span two
    indictments and include multiple counts of rape, sexual battery, unlawful sexual
    conduct with a minor, and gross sexual imposition. After a jury trial, See was
    convicted and sentenced to four consecutive life terms, to be served consecutively to
    221 years in prison. He now appeals.
    {¶2}   In six assignments of error, See argues that: (1) the trial court erred in
    admitting testimony regarding a victim’s post-rape psychological issues; (2) the trial
    court erred in admitting hearsay testimony; (3) the convictions were based upon
    insufficient evidence; (4) the convictions were against the manifest weight of the
    evidence; (5) he was denied effective assistance of counsel; and (6) his cumulative
    sentence amounted to cruel and unusual punishment.
    Factual Background
    {¶3}   See and Stites have a total of six children/stepchildren. The victims of
    See’s sexual abuse are K.S., S.S., and E.M., who were all children when the abuse
    occurred, but adults by the time they testified at See’s trial. K.S. is See’s biological
    daughter with Stites. S.S. is See’s biological daughter with another woman. E.M. is
    Stites’s biological daughter with another man.
    {¶4}   The case numbered B-1706834 (“B17”) concerned the sexual abuse of
    K.S. K.S. testified that See began to abuse her when she was between five and seven
    years old, which was between 2004 and 2006. K.S. testified that the abuse usually
    occurred during the night. See would take her out of the bedroom she shared with
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    two of her siblings and take her into his bedroom, where he would perform sexual
    acts with her, including cunnilingus, fellatio, vaginal intercourse, and digital
    penetration. She testified that “it happened so often that all the memories are almost
    all the same.” The abuse continued until 2015, when K.S. became pregnant. The
    father of the baby was her boyfriend, C.D. K.S. eventually moved out of the house
    and moved in with C.D., at which point she told C.D. about her relationship with See.
    She testified that she did not realize that what See had been doing was wrong until
    she talked with C.D. about it. C.D. explained to her that what See had done was rape
    and sexual abuse, and was not what fathers did to their daughters. K.S. testified that
    she then disclosed See’s abuse to the school resource officer at her school. The case
    was assigned to Detective Kilby of the Norwood Police Department, who realized
    during his investigation that K.S.’s sister, E.M., had made similar allegations of abuse
    against See in 2012.
    {¶5}    The case numbered B-1803242A (“B18”) concerned the sexual abuse
    of S.S. and E.M. S.S. testified that she would spend summers with See, and the rest
    of the year with her birth mother, D.S., in Florida. She testified that the first instance
    of abuse happened in the summer of 2001, when she was approximately eight years
    old. S.S. testified that See coaxed her into performing fellatio on him in exchange for
    a lollipop. She testified that during that same incident, See directed E.M. to perform
    fellatio on him, digitally penetrated E.M., and then directed S.S. and E.M. to digitally
    penetrate each other. S.S. testified that when she returned to Florida at the end of
    summer 2001, she told D.S. that See had been “kissing her and touching on her.”
    D.S. called See on the phone and “yelled” at him, and then reported the abuse to
    police in Florida. S.S. testified that at some point before she was interviewed by
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    police, she received a phone call from See. He asked her if she “really wanted to put
    him in prison for the rest of his life.” S.S. testified that she was scared, so she told
    her mother and the police that it had all been a dream. Every summer from 2001, up
    to and including 2005, S.S.’s mother continued to send her to visit See, and See
    committed sexual acts with her, including vaginal intercourse. S.S. testified that in
    the summer of 2005, she returned home to Florida early after telling See that she did
    not want to have sex with him anymore. She did not stay at See’s house again.
    {¶6}   E.M. testified that she lived with her biological father B.M. and
    stepmother C.M., but had visitations with See and Stites on weekends and during the
    summer. E.M. testified that in the summer of 2001 she was three or four years old
    when See coaxed her and S.S. into performing fellatio on him in exchange for a
    lollipop. See’s sexual abuse was then a regular occurrence whenever E.M. was at his
    house. When E.M. was asked at trial to estimate how many times See abused her
    between the ages of seven and ten, she testified, “I couldn’t give you a ballpark
    because it happened so regularly,” but, it happened “at least a hundred times.”
    {¶7}    E.M. testified that See first had vaginal intercourse with her when she
    was 14 years old. She testified that he had vaginal intercourse with her 20-50 times
    when she was between 14 and 15 years old. The sexual abuse stopped January 1,
    2012. The date stood out to E.M. because one of her friends had died the night
    before in a traffic accident, and See had vaginal intercourse with her to “cheer her
    up.” She testified that was the last time he had sex with her. In 2012, E.M. told her
    father, B.M., that See had abused her. B.M. informed the police. As part of the
    police investigation, K.S. and S.S. were interviewed by social workers from the
    Mayerson Center about whether See had ever sexually abused either of them. Both
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    K.S. and S.S. denied that they had ever been abused. A grand jury was convened, but
    declined to indict See or Stites.
    {¶8}    The defense presented the testimony of several family members and
    friends, including siblings of the victims. In general, these witnesses testified that
    they never saw any signs of abuse, the victims never talked about any abuse growing
    up, and that because the houses the family lived in over the years were small and
    contained a lot of people, See would not have had the privacy necessary to commit
    such sexual abuse without others knowing.
    {¶9}    See’s codefendant Stites also testified. Stites testified that See never
    sexually abused any of the victims. Stites explained why she believed the victims
    would fabricate the abuse allegations. She testified that after K.S. gave birth in 2015,
    Stites and See became the primary caretakers of the baby because K.S. was unable to
    properly care for the baby. After K.S. told them that she and the baby were moving
    out of the house, Stites told K.S. that she was going to file for custody. Although she
    never actually followed through, Stites testified that her threat to file for custody is
    what caused K.S. to falsely claim that See had abused her.            Regarding S.S.’s
    allegations, Stites testified that S.S. never forgave her for breaking up See’s marriage
    to S.S.’s biological mother.        Stites also testified about E.M.’s behavioral and
    psychological problems and how E.M. always rebuffed their attempts to discipline
    her.
    {¶10} For ease of discussion, we first address See’s third and fourth
    assignments of error.
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    Third Assignment of Error
    {¶11} In his third assignment of error, See argues that his convictions were
    based upon insufficient evidence. The test for determining if the evidence was
    sufficient to sustain a conviction is whether “after viewing the probative evidence and
    inferences reasonably drawn therefrom in the light most favorable to the
    prosecution, any rational trier of fact could have found all the essential elements of
    the offense beyond a reasonable doubt.” State v. MacDonald, 1st Dist. Hamilton No.
    C-180310, 
    2019-Ohio-3595
    , ¶ 12, quoting State v. Martin, 
    20 Ohio App.3d 172
    , 175,
    
    485 N.E.2d 717
     (1st Dist.1983). It is a question of law for the court to determine, the
    court is not to weigh the evidence. MacDonald at ¶ 12.
    {¶12} See was convicted of 30 offenses over two indictments.            The B17
    indictment charged See with nine offenses against K.S., including sexual battery,
    unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, and rape.
    {¶13} The state alleged two types of sexual battery. Under R.C.
    2907.03(A)(1), the state was required to prove that See purposely engaged in sexual
    conduct with K.S., and knowingly, and by means that would prevent resistance by a
    person of ordinary resolution, coerced K.S. to submit to such sexual conduct. Under
    R.C. 2907.03(A)(5), the state was required to prove that See purposely engaged in
    sexual conduct with K.S., and See was the natural parent, or adoptive parent, or
    stepparent, or guardian, or custodian, or person in loco parentis of K.S.
    {¶14} To prove unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, the state was required
    to prove that See purposely engaged in sexual conduct with K.S., that See knew that
    K.S. was 13 years of age or older, but less than 16 years of age, or See was reckless in
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    that regard, and at the time of the offense See was ten or more years older than K.S.
    See R.C. 2907.04(A).
    {¶15} To prove rape, the state was required to prove that See engaged in
    sexual conduct with K.S., who was under 13 years of age, whether or not See knew
    her age. See R.C. 2907.02(A)(1)(b). Some of the counts for rape allege that K.S. was
    less than ten years of age for purposes of sentencing. See R.C. 2907.02(B).
    {¶16} See does not dispute his status as either father or stepfather to all of
    the victims. He also does not dispute the ages of the victims at the time of the
    offenses.   His main argument regarding sufficiency is that there was a lack of
    specificity in the victims’ testimony as to when the offenses occurred and what sexual
    activity occurred.
    {¶17} Ordinarily, precise times and dates are not essential elements of
    offenses. State v. Rucker 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-110082, 
    2012-Ohio-185
    , ¶ 42,
    citing State v. Sellards, 
    17 Ohio St.3d 169
    , 171, 
    478 N.E.2d 781
     (1985). “In a criminal
    charge the exact date and time are immaterial unless in the nature of the offense
    exactness of time is essential. It is sufficient to prove the alleged offense at or about
    the time charged.” Sellards at 171. “In many cases involving the sexual abuse of
    children, the victims are simply unable to remember exact dates, especially where the
    crimes involve a repeated course of conduct over an extended period of time.”
    Rucker at ¶ 43.
    {¶18} After a review of the record, the evidence was clearly sufficient as to
    counts one through eight. For those counts, K.S. testified to sexual conduct with See
    during or about the time periods alleged in the indictment.
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    {¶19} In count nine, the time period alleged in the indictment does not align
    with the time period testified to by K.S.      The indictment alleged that between
    January 4, 2007, and December 31, 2007, See, without privilege to do so, inserted,
    however slight, any part of the body or any instrument, apparatus, or other object
    into the vaginal or anal opening, of K.S., who was less than 13 years of age, whether
    or not See knew K.S.’s age.     See R.C. 2907.02(A)(1)(b).      K.S. testified that See
    digitally penetrated her “hundreds of times,” but the first time was not until 2010,
    roughly three years after the time period alleged in count nine.
    {¶20} Our standard of review on a sufficiency challenge is whether “after
    viewing the probative evidence and inferences reasonably drawn therefrom in the
    light most favorable to the prosecution, any rational trier of fact could have found all
    the essential elements of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt.” (Emphasis added.)
    MacDonald, 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-180310, 
    2019-Ohio-3595
    , at ¶ 12. As discussed
    above, precise dates are generally not essential elements of offenses, especially in
    cases of childhood sexual abuse. See Rucker, 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-110082, 2012-
    Ohio-185, at ¶ 42.
    {¶21} K.S. testified that See digitally penetrated her in 2010, a year in which
    she would have been between ten and 11 years old.           Count nine was the only
    allegation of rape through digital penetration in B17. Thus, there was no risk that the
    jury could have found See guilty more than once for the same instance of digital
    penetration. Therefore, even though K.S.’s testimony placed the digital penetration
    three years after the time period alleged in the indictment, her testimony
    nevertheless permitted the jury to find all of the essential elements of R.C.
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    2907.02(A)(1)(b) proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The evidence is sufficient as to
    count nine.
    {¶22} The counts in B18 related to See’s sexual abuse of S.S. and E.M. See
    does not make any specific arguments regarding the sufficiency of the evidence on
    the counts in B18. Rather, he generally attacks the credibility of the testimony of S.S.
    and E.M.
    {¶23} The counts in B18 alleged rape, sexual battery, and gross sexual
    imposition. The rape and sexual-battery counts vary somewhat as to the sexual acts
    alleged and the time periods the acts were alleged to have occurred, but the essential
    elements are the same as the rape and sexual-battery counts discussed above. To
    prove gross sexual imposition, the state had to prove that See purposely caused E.M.
    and S.S. to have sexual contact, and that at least one of them was less than 13 years of
    age, whether See knew their ages or not. See R.C. 2907.05(A)(4).
    {¶24} After a review of the record, the evidence was sufficient as to all counts
    in B18. The third assignment of error is overruled.
    Fourth Assignment of Error
    {¶25} In See’s fourth assignment of error, he argues that his convictions were
    against the manifest weight of the evidence.
    {¶26} When determining whether a defendant’s conviction was against the
    manifest weight of the evidence, “we review the record, weigh the evidence and all
    reasonable inferences, consider the credibility of the witnesses, and determine
    whether the trier of fact ‘clearly lost its way and created such a manifest miscarriage
    of justice that the conviction must be overturned.’ ” MacDonald, 1st Dist. Hamilton
    No. C-180310, 
    2019-Ohio-3595
    , at ¶ 24, quoting Martin, 20 Ohio App.3d at 175, 485
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    N.E.2d 717. Reversal of a conviction and a grant of a new trial should only be done in
    “exceptional cases in which the evidence weighs heavily against the conviction.”
    MacDonald at ¶ 24.
    {¶27} The case essentially came down to a credibility determination between
    the state’s witnesses and the defense witnesses. All three victims provided damning
    testimony detailing years of sexual abuse at the hands of See. Their testimony was
    also supported by other state witnesses.
    {¶28} K.S.’s testimony was supported by multiple witnesses. C.D., K.S.’s
    boyfriend, testified that K.S. told him in 2015 about her sexual encounters with See.
    The school resource officer at K.S.’s school testified that in 2015 K.S. disclosed to him
    that See had been sexually abusing her. K.S.’s school counselor testified that she
    believed that K.S.’s mental-health issues and behavioral problems at school were
    consistent with a child suffering sexual abuse, although K.S. never disclosed any
    sexual abuse to her.
    {¶29} E.M. and S.S. corroborated each other’s testimony. They told very
    similar accounts of the incident in summer 2001 in which they performed sexual acts
    with See in exchange for a lollipop. They also both testified that at first E.M. was
    apprehensive about performing fellatio on See, and so S.S. went first while E.M.
    watched.
    {¶30} E.M.’s testimony was supported by the testimony of her biological
    father, B.M. B.M. testified that E.M. would come home from her visits with See and
    Stites “angry, mad, disruptive,” and that in 2012 E.M. told him about See’s sexual
    abuse. C.M. is E.M.’s stepmother. She testified that she wanted E.M.’s visitations
    with See and Stites to be supervised because “something wasn’t right with [E.M.].”
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    She testified that every time E.M. would come home from visiting See she was
    depressed, crying, and upset. She testified that E.M. would “play with” her privates a
    lot when she was five or six years old.
    {¶31} S.S.’s testimony was supported by D.S., S.S.’s biological mother. D.S.
    testified that in summer 2001, after returning from staying with See and Stites, S.S.
    told her that See had been “touching her and kissing on her.” Although S.S. recanted
    and said that it had all been a dream, D.S. testified that S.S. would ask her not to go
    to See’s every summer afterwards, but D.S. would make her go so that she could
    spend time with her brother, who lived with See and Stites. Finally, D.S. testified
    that after the visit in 2005, S.S. was “really anxious,” and begged D.S. not to send her
    to See’s house again.
    {¶32} See’s defense rested on two main strategies.           First, the defense
    attacked the details of the victims’ testimony, such as their timelines of the abuse,
    why they waited years to report the abuse, and why K.S. and S.S. denied that any
    abuse happened when they were interviewed by the Mayerson Center social workers
    in 2012. Second, the defense offered the testimony of others who lived with See and
    Stites at various times and denied ever seeing any indications of abuse.
    {¶33} All of the victims were very young when the abuse started, between
    four and eight years old. K.S., E.M., and S.S. all testified as to why they waited so
    many years to disclose the abuse, and in the cases of K.S. and S.S., why in 2012 they
    denied that any abuse had occurred. K.S. testified that See told her that what he was
    doing was “what all daddies did. He said that all daddies did this to his little girls,”
    and that he was preparing her “to be a woman, how to love a man.” S.S. testified that
    she recanted in 2001 and denied any abuse in 2012 because she did not want to be
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    responsible for putting See in prison, and that despite the abuse, he was her father
    and she wanted him to be in her life. E.M. testified to similar reasons—she did not
    know that the sexual activity with See was wrong, and Stites was her mother and
    E.M. wanted a relationship with her.
    {¶34} “The trier of fact is in the best position to judge the credibility of the
    witnesses and the weight to be given to the evidence presented.” State v. Carson, 1st
    Dist. Hamilton No. C-180336, 
    2019-Ohio-4550
    , ¶ 16.
    {¶35} The jury clearly believed the victims’ testimony over that of the defense
    witnesses. Also, that the other siblings and relatives did not see any signs of abuse
    does not mean that the abuse was not happening. The victims testified that they and
    their siblings often stayed at other relatives’ houses, and that See would abuse them
    when their siblings were staying with relatives, or at nighttime when others were
    asleep.
    {¶36} Nothing presented by See leads us to believe that this is one of those
    “exceptional cases in which the evidence weighs heavily against the conviction.” See
    MacDonald, 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-180310, 
    2019-Ohio-3595
    , at ¶ 24. The fourth
    assignment of error is overruled.
    First Assignment of Error
    {¶37} In his first assignment of error, See argues that by admitting evidence
    of E.M.’s post-rape psychological issues and photographs of the victims, the trial
    court violated Evid.R. 403(A).
    {¶38} Evid.R. 403(A) provides that “although relevant, evidence is not
    admissible if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair
    prejudice, of confusion of the issues, or of misleading the jury.”
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    {¶39} First,   we   discuss      E.M.’s    testimony    regarding    her    post-rape
    psychological issues. E.M. testified that after she was abused by See, and the grand
    jury declined to indict See in 2012, she “kind of spiraled out of control, started
    experimenting with drugs and had become extremely promiscuous, and eventually
    got into some legal trouble.”
    {¶40} Defense counsel did not object to this testimony. Therefore, See has
    waived all but plain-error review. State v. Baker, 1st Dist. Hamilton Nos. C-080157
    and C-080159, 
    2009-Ohio-4188
    , ¶ 57. To constitute plain error, an error must be
    “obvious,” and “but for the error, the outcome of the trial clearly would have been
    otherwise.” State v. Neyland, 
    139 Ohio St.3d 353
    , 
    2014-Ohio-1914
    , 
    12 N.E.3d 1112
    , ¶
    177. “Notice of plain error is to be taken with the utmost caution, under exceptional
    circumstances and only to prevent a manifest miscarriage of justice.” 
    Id.
    {¶41} See argues         that   E.M.’s    testimony    regarding    her    post-abuse
    psychological issues was meant to inflame the jury. Although the relevance of E.M.’s
    psychological issues to See’s guilt/innocence is low, the prejudicial impact is also
    low. In fact, See argued that E.M.’s testimony about her decline in her mental and
    emotional health and behavioral problems led her to make false allegations against
    See and Stites.   See has failed to demonstrate that the probative value of the
    testimony was substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice such that
    but for the error, the outcome of the trial clearly would have been otherwise.
    {¶42} Next, we discuss the trial court’s admission, over defense objection, of
    photographs of the victims as children.          Under Evid.R. 403, the admission of
    photographs is left to the sound discretion of the trial court. State v. Cephas, 1st
    Dist. Hamilton No. C-180105, 
    2019-Ohio-52
    , ¶ 27. “The term ‘abuse of discretion’
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    connotes more than an error of law or of judgment; it implies that the court's attitude
    is unreasonable, arbitrary or unconscionable.” State v. Adams, 
    62 Ohio St.2d 151
    ,
    157, 
    404 N.E.2d 144
     (1980).
    {¶43} In a prosecution for rape and gross sexual imposition, the Seventh
    District held that the trial court did not abuse its discretion in admitting a
    photograph of the 11-year-old victim.      State v. Davis, 7th Dist. Mahoning No.
    05MA3, 
    2007-Ohio-1397
    , ¶ 39.        The court reasoned that the photograph was
    probative because it depicted what the victim looked like at the time of the offenses,
    and that there was “nothing prejudicial in allowing the jury to see just what a ten or
    eleven year old girl looked like.” Id.; see State v. Carey, 5th Dist. Licking No. 2008-
    CA-20, 
    2009-Ohio-103
    , ¶ 100 (citing Davis and holding that where the state had to
    prove the age of the victims, photographs depicting the victims at the time of the
    offenses were probative and not unduly prejudicial).
    {¶44} The prosecution conceded that the ages of See’s victims were not in
    dispute, but explained that since the victims were now testifying as adults, admission
    of the photographs was necessary to show the jury the “gravity of the case and the
    true situation that this child was in, they need to see her when she was the victim.”
    One of the defense themes was that the victims’ testimony was not credible because
    they kept silent or denied the abuse for years. The photographs demonstrated one of
    the reasons the victims kept the abuse secret for so long—because they were so young
    when it occurred.
    {¶45} See has failed to show that the trial court’s admission of the
    photographs was arbitrary, unreasonable, or unconscionable. The first assignment
    of error is overruled.
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    Second Assignment of Error
    {¶46} In his second assignment of error, See argues that the trial court
    abused its discretion when it admitted two hearsay statements.
    {¶47} First, B.M. testified about statements made to him by E.M. when she
    disclosed See’s abuse to him. B.M. testified that he and E.M. had gotten into a fight
    about her room being messy. They went for a ride in the car to talk and calm down.
    B.M. testified that E.M. was “really shaky, nervous, looked really scared. She was
    really just upset. * * * really shaky, clammy, angry. She was just a bundle of nerves.”
    When the prosecution asked B.M. what E.M. said, defense counsel objected. The
    court permitted B.M. to testify to what E.M. said on the basis that E.M.’s statements
    were an excited utterance. B.M. testified that E.M. told him that See had molested
    her and had had sex with her.
    {¶48} Evid.R. 802 prohibits the admission of hearsay.           Evid.R. 801(C)
    defines hearsay as “a statement, other than one made by the declarant while
    testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter
    asserted.”
    {¶49} Evid.R. 803(2) provides an exception to the prohibition against
    hearsay for an excited utterance, which is defined as “a statement relating to a
    startling event or condition made while the declarant was under the stress of
    excitement caused by the event or condition.”
    {¶50} Hearsay statements may be admissible as an excited utterance when:
    1) there is an event startling enough to cause “nervous excitement” in the
    declarant, 2) the statement, though not strictly contemporaneous, was
    made before the declarant had time for the nervous excitement to
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    subside, 3) the statement related to the startling event, and 4) the
    declarant personally observed the startling event.
    State v. Smith, 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-180499, 
    2019-Ohio-3257
    , ¶ 17.
    {¶51} Excited utterances are deemed reliable because they are made before
    the declarant has an opportunity to reflect, thus reducing the chance to fabricate or
    distort the truth. Id. at ¶ 18. “Reactive excited statements are considered more
    trustworthy than hearsay generally on the dual grounds that, first, the stimulus
    renders the declarant incapable of fabrication and, second, the impression on the
    declarant’s memory at the time of the statement is still fresh and intense.” State v.
    Taylor, 
    66 Ohio St.3d 295
    , 300, 
    612 N.E.2d 316
     (1993). Although the passage of
    time between the startling event and the statement is relevant, it is not dispositive.
    
    Id.
    {¶52} Rather, the key determination is whether the statement was the result
    of reflective thought. State v. Harris, 
    163 Ohio App.3d 286
    , 
    2005-Ohio-4696
    , 
    837 N.E.2d 830
    , ¶ 7 (1st Dist.).    “When statements come with the opportunity for
    reflective thought, they cannot squeeze through the excited utterance exception.”
    Smith, 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-180499, 
    2019-Ohio-3257
    , at ¶ 18, quoting Harris at
    ¶ 7. In Smith, this court held that the declarant’s statement was not an excited
    utterance where she hesitated to initially tell police officers what happened—the
    statement “lacked the spontaneous quality necessary for an excited utterance.”
    Smith at ¶ 19.
    {¶53} It is unclear from the testimony how soon after the last incident of
    sexual abuse E.M.’s statement to B.M. was made. Regardless, there was a fight
    between the two and then a car drive to calm down. There was an opportunity for
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    reflective thought, and the statement lacked spontaneity. Thus, E.M.’s statement to
    B.M. did not carry the level of trustworthiness necessary to serve the purposes of the
    exited-utterance exception.
    {¶54} The trial court acknowledged a “temporal aspect” to the excited-
    utterance exception, but based his ruling on E.M.’s emotional and physical state at
    the time she made the statement—that she was “shaky, nervous, scared, upset.”
    Merely being upset at the time the statement was made does not meet the standard
    for admissibility as an excited utterance. Taylor, 66 Ohio St.3d at 303, 
    612 N.E.2d 316
    . The trial court’s ruling was an abuse of discretion.
    {¶55} See also argues that a statement made by D.S., S.S.’s biological mother,
    was inadmissible hearsay. D.S. testified that S.S. disclosed to her that See “was
    touching her and kissing on her, and she didn’t want to go back.” Defense counsel
    objected to the testimony as hearsay. The prosecution argued that D.S.’s testimony
    was not hearsay because the prosecutor did not ask D.S. to repeat the actual
    statement, but rather asked D.S. about the nature of S.S.’s disclosure. The trial court
    admitted the statement on that basis.
    {¶56} D.S. may not have put quotation marks around her testimony, but her
    testimony went directly to the substance of S.S.’s statement.           Therefore, this
    statement was hearsay and should not have been admitted.
    {¶57} Regardless, any error as a result of the admission of the hearsay
    statements by B.M. and D.S. was harmless.          E.M. and S.S. were subject to cross-
    examination about the statements, and the hearsay testimony was cumulative
    because E.M. testified to making the statements to B.M., and S.S. testified to making
    the statements to D.S.    See Cornell v. Hatfield, 12th Dist. Fayette No. CA2017-03-
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    006, 
    2018-Ohio-549
    , ¶ 18 (“any error in the admission of hearsay is generally
    harmless when the declarant is cross-examined on the same matters and the
    seemingly erroneous evidence is cumulative in nature”); In re Z., 1st Dist. Hamilton
    No. C-190026, 
    2019-Ohio-1617
    , ¶ 15 (when inadmissible hearsay is cumulative, its
    admission is typically harmless).
    {¶58} Also, as discussed above, the victims’ testimony was corroborated by
    more than just the hearsay testimony.          The trial court abused its discretion in
    admitting the hearsay testimonies of B.M. and D.S., but the error was harmless. The
    second assignment of error is overruled.
    Fifth Assignment of Error
    {¶59} In his fifth assignment of error, See argues that he was denied the
    effective assistance of counsel because his counsel failed to hire an independent
    expert to testify to the lack of reliability in cases of “late disclosed sexual abuse.”
    {¶60} “To establish an ineffective-assistance-of-counsel claim, a defendant
    must show (1) that counsel’s performance was deficient, and (2) that the deficient
    performance prejudiced the defense, thereby depriving him of a fair trial.” State v.
    Jones, 1st Dist. Hamilton No. C-180091, 
    2019-Ohio-4862
    , ¶ 80, citing Strickland v.
    Washington, 
    466 U.S. 668
    , 687, 
    104 S.Ct. 2052
    , 
    80 L.Ed.2d 674
     (1984).
    {¶61} Regarding the second prong, prejudice requires there to be “a
    reasonable probability that, but for counsel’s unprofessional errors, the result of the
    proceeding would have been different.” Jones at ¶ 81, quoting State v. Bradley, 
    42 Ohio St.3d 136
    , 142, 
    538 N.E.2d 373
     (1989). “A defendant’s failure to satisfy one
    prong of the Strickland test negates a court’s need to consider the other.” Jones at ¶
    81, quoting State v. Madrigal, 
    87 Ohio St.3d 378
    , 389, 
    721 N.E.2d 52
     (2000).
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    {¶62} In Jones, the defendant argued that he was denied the effective
    assistance of counsel where defense counsel failed to call two witnesses to testify
    regarding alleged promises made by police to a witness. Jones at ¶ 82. However,
    there was no evidence in the record as to how either of the witnesses would have
    testified, and so this court held that the defendant had failed to prove the prejudice
    prong of the Strickland test. 
    Id.
    {¶63} Similarly, in the present case, there is no evidence in the record as to
    how an expert witness would have testified regarding “late disclosed sexual abuse.”
    See argues that an expert witness on childhood sexual abuse could have rebutted the
    state’s witnesses, or could have testified that allegations of childhood sexual abuse
    disclosed later in the victim’s life are unreliable. However, we simply do not know
    how an expert witness would have testified, and we cannot base our ruling on See’s
    speculation. Thus, without any evidence of prejudice, we cannot find that See was
    denied the effective assistance of counsel. His fifth assignment of error is overruled.
    Sixth Assignment of Error
    {¶64} In his sixth assignment of error, See argues that the individual group
    of sentences for each victim were grossly disproportionate to his respective offenses
    and violate the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution by subjecting
    him to cruel and unusual punishment.
    {¶65} The     Ohio    Supreme     Court     addressed   the   cruel-and-unusual
    punishment provision of the Eighth Amendment in State v. Hairston, 
    118 Ohio St.3d 289
    , 
    2008-Ohio-2338
    , 
    888 N.E.2d 1073
    . The court held:
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    The Eighth Amendment does not require strict proportionality between
    crime and sentence. Rather, it forbids only extreme sentences that are
    “grossly disproportionate” to the crime.
    ***
    Cases in which cruel and unusual punishments have been found are
    limited to those involving sanctions which under the circumstances
    would be considered shocking to any reasonable person, and * * * the
    penalty must be so greatly disproportionate to the offense as to shock the
    sense of justice of the community.
    (Citations omitted.) Id. at ¶ 13-14, quoting State v. Weitbrecht, 
    86 Ohio St.3d 368
    ,
    371-373, 
    715 N.E.2d 167
     (1999); see State v. Williams, 
    2017-Ohio-8898
    , 
    101 N.E.3d 547
    , ¶ 30 (1st Dist.).
    {¶66} However, when reviewing a claim of cruel and unusual punishment,
    Hairston requires that a court review the proportionality of the individual sentences
    rather than the cumulative impact of consecutive sentences. Hairston held, “Where
    none    of the    individual   sentences    imposed     on   an   offender   are   grossly
    disproportionate to their respective offenses, an aggregate prison term resulting
    from consecutive imposition of those sentences does not constitute cruel and
    unusual punishment.”        Hairston at syllabus.      The Hairston court rejected the
    defendant’s Eighth Amendment claim despite the fact that he received the maximum
    sentence on each individual count and the trial court ran the sentences consecutively
    for an aggregate sentence of 134 years. Id. at ¶ 9. The court held “[b]ecause the
    individual sentences imposed by the court are within the range of penalties
    authorized by the legislature, they are not grossly disproportionate or shocking to a
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    reasonable person or the community’s sense of justice and do not constitute cruel
    and unusual punishment.” Id. at ¶ 23.
    {¶67} See’s aggregate sentence was four consecutive life sentences, to be
    served consecutively to 221 years. See does not challenge any of his individual
    sentences. Rather, See argues that “the individual group of sentences for each girl
    imposed by the trial court are grossly disproportionate to the offense.” (Emphasis
    added.) See seems to argue that the trial court should not have made the individual
    sentences for each victim consecutive because they were part of the same act or
    transaction. For example, See argues that “[w]hile the counts on B1706834 each deal
    with different time periods, the sexual contact with [K.S.] was a series of acts bound
    together at the same location, the See residence.” With regard to the three life
    sentences imposed for E.M., See argues, “These offense were against one person, and
    all – as was the case with [K.S.], . . . a series of continuous acts bound towards a
    single objective.”
    {¶68} See points us to R.C. 2929.14(D)(1)(b) for the proposition that the
    court may not impose more than one prison term on an offender for felonies that
    were committed as part of the same “act or transaction.” Previous versions of R.C.
    2929.14(D)(1)(b), including versions in effect during the years of abuse, provided
    that “[e]xcept as provided in division (D)(1)(g) of this section, a court shall not
    impose more than one prison term on an offender under division (D)(1)(a) of this
    section for felonies committed as part of the same act or transaction.”
    {¶69} But the offenses of which See was convicted were not all part of one act
    or transaction. He abused three different victims on multiple occasions over a period
    of 15 years. Each count alleged an act of abuse separate and distinct from the other
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    counts. His offenses were not part of a continuing course of conduct that would
    require concurrent sentences under the law.
    {¶70} See further argues that ordering that his mandatory life sentences be
    served consecutively amounts to cruel and unusual punishment. See received three
    consecutive life sentences for raping E.M. and a fourth life sentence for raping S.S.
    The court made the necessary consecutive sentencing findings, both during the
    sentencing hearing and in the sentencing entry. Nevertheless, See argues that he
    “can only live one life and can only serve one life.” This court rejected that argument
    in State v. Williams, 
    2017-Ohio-8898
    , 
    101 N.E.3d 547
    , ¶ 31 (1st Dist.), and we again
    reject it here. The Supreme Court of Ohio has pronounced that “Eighth Amendment
    proportionality review does not apply to consecutive sentences.” Id. at ¶ 31, citing
    Hairston, 
    118 Ohio St.3d 289
    , 
    2008-Ohio-2338
    , 
    888 N.E.2d 1073
    , at ¶ 20. We are
    bound by the dictates of Ohio Supreme Court precedent. See’s aggregate sentence
    does not constitute cruel and unusual punishment.
    {¶71} See’s sixth assignment of error is overruled.
    Conclusion
    {¶72} For the foregoing reasons, See’s assignments of error are overruled
    and the judgments of the trial court are affirmed.
    Judgments affirmed.
    ZAYAS, P.J., and WINKLER, J., concur.
    Please note:
    The court has recorded its own entry on the date of the release of this opinion.
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