In re T.W. , 2012 Ohio 2361 ( 2012 )


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  • [Cite as In re T.W., 
    2012-Ohio-2361
    .]
    IN THE COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
    THIRD APPELLATE DISTRICT
    MARION COUNTY
    IN THE MATTER OF:
    T.W.,                                               CASE NO. 9-10-63
    ALLEGED DELINQUENT CHILD,
    [STATE OF OHIO,                                     OPINION
    APPELLANT].
    Appeal from Marion County Common Pleas Court
    Family Division
    Trial Court No. 10 DL 633
    Judgment Affirmed
    Date of Decision: May 29, 2012
    APPEARANCES:
    Brent W. Yager and Megan K. Frericks for Appellant
    Raymond A. Grogan, Jr. for Appellee
    Case No. 9-10-63
    ROGERS, J.
    {¶1} Plaintiff–Appellant, State of Ohio, appeals from the judgment of the
    Court of Common Pleas of Marion County, Family Division, granting Defendant-
    Appellee’s, T.W., motion to suppress. On appeal, the State contends that the trial
    court erred and abused its discretion in granting T.W.’s motion to suppress. Based
    on the following, we affirm the judgment of the trial court.
    {¶2} In July 2010, a complaint was filed against T.W. charging him with a
    single count of gross sexual imposition in violation of R.C. 2907.05(A)(4), a
    felony of the third degree if committed by an adult. The complaint arose as a
    result of an allegation against and subsequent admission by T.W. that he had
    inappropriate sexual contact with his four-year-old half-sister, C.W.
    {¶3} On September 27, 2010, T.W. filed a motion to suppress his interview
    and written statement made at Marion County Children Services (“Children
    Services”) on April 5, 2010. T.W. argued that he was in custody during the
    interview, but was not administered Miranda warnings.
    {¶4} On November 17, 2010, the matter proceeded to a suppression
    hearing. Prior to hearing testimony, the parties stipulated that T.W. was fourteen-
    years-old during the interview, and that T.W. had no prior involvement with law
    enforcement. The following facts and testimony were subsequently adduced.
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    {¶5} Brandy Page (“Page”) testified that in April 2010, she was employed
    with Children Services as an intake investigator. In February 2010, Children
    Services received an allegation that T.W. had “inappropriately” touched C.W.’s
    genital region.   In response to the allegation, Page contacted T.W.’s mother,
    Michelle Shimp (“Shimp”), via telephone. During her conversation with Shimp,
    Page advised her of the allegation against T.W., that Children Services would be
    conducting a full investigation of the allegation, the possible charges T.W. may
    face if the allegation was substantiated, and scheduled T.W. for an interview at
    Children Services.
    {¶6} On April 5, 2010, Shimp and T.W.’s step-father drove T.W. to
    Children Services for the interview. Page met with T.W. and his parents in the
    lobby, where she advised T.W.’s parents that the agency preferred to interview
    children alone, but that the parents may accompany T.W. in the interview or watch
    the interview in an adjacent conference room, via a live video feed. Page testified
    that T.W. was present when she advised T.W.’s parents that they could accompany
    him in the interview, but that she did not communicate the same directly to T.W.
    Page continued that she gave T.W.’s parents a “consumer brochure” that explained
    their rights, and that Shimp signed a paper memorializing receipt of the brochure.
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    {¶7} Thereafter, Page and Officer Timothy Rowe (“Officer Rowe”), of the
    Marion Police Department, escorted T.W. to the interview room. According to
    Page and Officer Rowe, the interview room was small and could accommodate
    approximately three to four people. The interview room had two doors; one door
    opened into an interior hallway, the second door opened into an adjoining
    conference room.1 The interview room contained video and audio equipment, a
    table, and several chairs.              After Officer Rowe, Page, and T.W. entered the
    interview room the door was closed. Although the record does not reveal the
    exact seating arrangement, it does reveal that T.W. was seated facing Officer
    Rowe, and that either Officer Rowe or Page had their seat positioned near the door
    through which they entered the interview room.
    {¶8} Page continued that she, Officer Rowe, and T.W. were the only
    individuals present in the interview room, and that she and Officer Rowe were
    present for the entire interview. The interview lasted approximately one hour.
    Page testified that T.W. was neither placed nor told that he was under arrest
    before, during, or after the interview; that she did not advise T.W. about the
    possible charges; and, that T.W. never asked for his parents to be present during
    the interview.          Fifty-five minutes into the interview T.W. admitted that he
    1
    There is no evidence that T.W. was aware that the second door opened into a conference room.
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    inappropriately touched C.W.      After T.W. gave a written statement of his
    admission he left Children Services with his parents.
    {¶9} Officer Rowe testified that he is employed as a police officer with the
    Marion Police Department, and that he has held that position for twenty-one years.
    Officer Rowe testified that he had conducted approximately a dozen juvenile
    interviews at Children Services, and received training in juvenile interview
    techniques.
    {¶10} On the day of the interview, Officer Rowe wore his police uniform
    and firearm. Officer Rowe testified that, prior to the interview, he met with T.W.
    and his parents in the lobby, where he advised them that T.W. was not under arrest
    and that he was free to leave. Officer Rowe further testified that he never directly
    advised T.W., prior to or during the interview, that he could have his parents
    accompany him in the interview room or that he could have an attorney present,
    but did testify that T.W. was present when he informed T.W.’s parents that they
    could accompany T.W. in the interview room.
    {¶11} The interview lasted approximately one hour. Officer Rowe testified
    that the interview’s duration was average considering the allegation.       Officer
    Rowe testified that T.W. appeared somewhat relaxed during the interview. Based
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    on his prior experience interviewing juveniles, Officer Rowe concluded that T.W.
    appeared to understand why he was at Children Services.
    {¶12} Throughout the interview, Officer Rowe repeatedly asked T.W.
    whether he inappropriately touched C.W.’s genital region. In response, T.W.
    repeatedly denied the allegation. T.W. denied the allegation approximately fifteen
    (15) times before admitting that he inappropriately touched C.W.2 Officer Rowe
    testified that he continued questioning T.W. despite the repeated denials because
    his experience and training lead him to believe that T.W. was not being truthful.
    Particularly, Officer Rowe testified that T.W. demonstrated signs of deception
    throughout the interview including, but not limited to, shifting his weight in the
    seat, pausing after questions, looking off to the side, and dry lips.
    {¶13} Officer Rowe continued that T.W.’s freedom of movement was not
    restricted during the interview; that T.W. never asked to leave; that T.W. never
    asked to stop the interview; that T.W. never asked for his parents to be present
    during the interview; and, that T.W. was never told that he was under arrest.
    Officer Rowe advised T.W., at approximately eight minutes and twenty-seven
    minutes into the interview, that he was “not going to be arrested,” and that he was
    “free to go, and [he is] not going to be arrested” that day, respectively.
    2
    The number of denials is based on our independent review of the interview’s audio recording.
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    {¶14} At the conclusion of Officer Rowe’s testimony the State moved to
    admit the audio recording of T.W.’s interview and written statement. T.W. did not
    object, and the exhibits were admitted. Subsequently, the State rested.
    {¶15} Shimp testified that several days prior to the interview Page
    contacted her via telephone. During their conversation, Page advised her of the
    allegation against T.W., the possible charges T.W. may face if the allegation was
    substantiated, and scheduled T.W. for an interview at Children Services. On April
    5, 2010, Shimp and T.W.’s step-father drove T.W. to Children Services for the
    interview. Upon arriving at Children Services, Shimp spoke with Page. Shimp
    testified that Page only advised her that she and Officer Rowe were going to
    interview T.W. Shimp also spoke with Officer Rowe before the interview, but
    could not recall the contents of that conversation. As Page and Officer Rowe
    escorted T.W. to the interview room, Shimp testified that she and T.W.’s step-
    father stood up to follow, but Officer Rowe advised them that they could not
    accompany them in the interview room. Shimp further testified that she and
    T.W.’s step-father were never presented with an opportunity to watch a live video
    feed of the interview.
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    {¶16} On December 1, 2010, the trial court filed its judgment entry
    granting T.W.’s motion to suppress, finding that T.W.’s interview was custodial in
    nature.
    {¶17} It is from this judgment the State appeals, presenting the following
    assignment of error for our review.
    Assignment of Error No. I
    THE JUVENILE COURT ERRED AND ABUSED ITS
    DISCRETION IN GRANTING APPELLEE’S MOTION TO
    SUPPRESS EVIDENCE.
    {¶18} In its sole assignment of error, the State contends that the trial court
    erred in granting T.W.’s motion to suppress his interview at Children Services.
    Specifically, the State contends that there was no need to administer Miranda
    warnings because T.W. was not in custody during the interview. We disagree.
    {¶19} Initially, we note that the State also contends that T.W.’s inculpatory
    statements were made voluntarily, and were not the product of coercion. Upon
    review of the record, particularly T.W.’s motion to suppress, there is no discussion
    concerning the voluntary nature of T.W.’s statements.           Additionally, the trial
    court’s judgment entry does not address whether T.W.’s statements were voluntary
    or involuntary.      Because this issue was not raised by either party below or
    addressed by the trial court we decline to address the issue at this time.
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    {¶20} “Appellate review of a motion to suppress presents a mixed question
    of law and fact.” State v. Burnside, 
    100 Ohio St.3d 152
    , 
    2003-Ohio-5372
    , ¶ 8.
    The trial court serves as the trier of fact and is the primary judge of the credibility
    of the witnesses and the weight to be given to the evidence presented. State v.
    Johnson, 
    137 Ohio App.3d 847
    , 850 (12th Dist. 2000).             Therefore, when an
    appellate court reviews a trial court’s ruling on a motion to suppress, it must
    accept the trial court’s findings of facts so long as they are supported by
    competent, credible evidence. State v. Roberts, 
    110 Ohio St.3d 71
    , 2006-Ohio-
    3665, ¶ 100, citing State v. Fanning, 
    1 Ohio St.3d 19
    , 20 (1982). The appellate
    court must then review the application of the law to the facts de novo. Roberts,
    citing Burnside at ¶ 8.
    {¶21} The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides
    individuals with protection against self-incrimination. See Chavez v. Martinez,
    
    538 U.S. 760
    , 
    123 S.Ct. 1994
     (2003). “‘Juveniles are entitled both to protection
    against compulsory self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment and to Miranda
    warnings where applicable.’” In re Forbess, 3d Dist. No. 2-09-20, 2010-Ohio-
    2826, ¶ 27, citing In re Gault, 
    387 U.S. 1
    , 55, 
    87 S.Ct. 1428
     (1967).
    {¶22} “[W]hen an individual is taken into custody or otherwise deprived of
    his freedom by the authorities in any significant way and is subjected to
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    questioning, the privilege against self-incrimination is jeopardized.” Miranda v.
    Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
    , 478, 
    86 S.Ct. 1602
     (1966). “[T]he prosecution may not
    use statements, whether exculpatory or inculpatory, stemming from custodial
    interrogation of the defendant unless it demonstrates the use of procedural
    safeguards effective to secure the privilege against self-incrimination.” 
    Id. at 444
    .
    Police are not required to administer Miranda warnings to everyone whom they
    question.   State v. Biros, 
    78 Ohio St.3d 426
    , 440 (1997), citing Oregon v.
    Mathiason, 
    429 U.S. 492
    , 495, 
    97 S.Ct. 711
     (1977). Rather, police are required to
    administer Miranda warnings where an individual is subject to “custodial
    interrogation.” 
    Id.,
     citing Mathiason at 494.
    {¶23} “In order to determine whether a person is in custody for purposes of
    receiving Miranda warnings, courts must first inquire into the circumstances
    surrounding the questioning and, second, given those circumstances, determine
    whether a reasonable person would have felt that he or she was not at liberty to
    terminate the interview and leave.” State v. Hoffner, 
    102 Ohio St.3d 358
    , 362,
    
    2004-Ohio-3430
    , ¶ 27, citing Thompson v. Keohane, 
    516 U.S. 99
    , 112, 
    116 S.Ct. 457
     (1995). The first inquiry is distinctly factual. Keohane at 112. “Once the
    factual circumstances surrounding the interrogation are reconstructed, the court
    must apply an objective test to resolve ‘the ultimate inquiry’ of whether there was
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    a ‘‘formal arrest or restraint on freedom of movement’ of the degree associated
    with a formal arrest.’” Hoffner at ¶ 27, citing California v. Beheler, 
    463 U.S. 1121
    , 1125, 
    103 S.Ct. 3517
     (1983), quoting Mathiason at 495. The subjective
    views harbored by either the interrogating officers or the person being questioned
    are of no consequence in the Miranda analysis. Stansbury v. California, 
    511 U.S. 318
    , 323, 
    114 S.Ct. 1526
     (1994). In resolving “the ultimate inquiry” courts must
    consider the totality of the circumstances surrounding the questioning. State v.
    Gumm, 
    73 Ohio St.3d 413
    , 429 (1995); Beheler at 1125.
    Reconstruction of Facts
    {¶24} The facts of the present case are relatively undisputed.        After
    receiving an allegation that T.W. had inappropriate sexual contact with C.W.,
    Page, an intake investigator with Children Services, contacted T.W.’s mother,
    Shimp, to schedule T.W. for an interview at Children Services.        During this
    conversation Shimp was informed of the possible charges T.W. could face if the
    allegation was substantiated and that Children Services would be conducting a full
    investigation into the allegation. On the day of the interview, Shimp and T.W.’s
    step-father drove T.W. to the interview at Children Services. At this time T.W.
    was fourteen-years-old and had no prior experience with law enforcement.
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    {¶25} Upon arriving at Children Services, Page and Officer Rowe, an
    officer with the Marion Police Department, met with Shimp, T.W.’s step-father,
    and T.W. in the lobby.       Officer Rowe wore a police uniform and firearm
    throughout his encounter with T.W.         Prior to the interview, Officer Rowe
    informed T.W. and his parents that they could accompany T.W. in the interview,
    that he was not under arrest, and that he was free to leave.
    {¶26} After meeting in the lobby, T.W. was escorted by Officer Rowe and
    Page to the interview room. Shimp and T.W.’s step-father attempted to follow
    T.W. back to the interview room, but Officer Rowe advised them that they could
    not accompany them in the interview room. The interview room was small and
    could accommodate approximately three to four people. The interview room had
    two doors; one door opened into an interior hallway, the second door opened into
    an adjoining conference room. Upon entering the interview room T.W. took a seat
    facing Officer Rowe. Additionally, either Page or Officer Rowe was seated near
    the door through which they entered the interview room.
    {¶27} Officer Rowe, Page, and T.W. were the only individuals present in
    the interview room, and were present throughout the entire interview.        The
    interview lasted approximately one hour. T.W.’s admission, however, did not
    occur until fifty-five (55) minutes into the interview. Officer Rowe was the only
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    individual who asked T.W. questions during the interview.            Based on his
    experience in conducting juvenile interviews, Officer Rowe testified that T.W.
    was somewhat relaxed and understood why he was at Children Services. At no
    time during the interview was T.W. advised that he was under arrest. Rather,
    T.W. was advised twice, at approximately eight minutes and twenty-seven minutes
    into the interview, that he was “not going to be arrested,” and that he was “free to
    go, and [he is] not going to be arrested” that day, respectively. T.W. never asked
    to leave the interview or stop the interview. During the course of the interview,
    Officer Rowe repeatedly asked T.W. whether he inappropriately touched C.W.’s
    genital region. T.W. responded in the negative approximately fifteen (15) times
    before admitting that he inappropriately touched C.W. Upon obtaining a verbal
    confession, Officer Rowe requested T.W. to give a written statement of his
    admission. After T.W. completed the written statement he was released to Shimp
    and his step-father, who drove him home.
    Totality of the Circumstances
    {¶28} At the outset, we note that the instant case contains facts that both
    weigh in favor of and against a finding that T.W. was in custody.             Upon
    considering all of the facts surrounding T.W.’s interview, we find that a
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    reasonable juvenile in T.W.’s position would not have felt free to terminate the
    interview and leave.
    {¶29} We begin with a discussion of those facts that weigh in favor of a
    finding that T.W. was in custody. Recently, the United States Supreme Court held
    that a juvenile’s age may be considered in the Miranda analysis, so long as the
    juvenile’s age was known to the officer at the time of questioning or would have
    been objectively apparent to a reasonable officer. J.D.B. v. North Carolina, ___
    U.S. ___, 
    131 S.Ct. 2394
     (2011). The Supreme Court recognized that in the
    specific context of police questioning, events that “would leave a man cold and
    unimpressed can overawe and overwhelm a” teen. 
    Id. at 2397
    , quoting Haley v.
    Ohio, 
    332 U.S. 596
    , 599, 
    68 S.Ct. 302
     (1948). While a juvenile’s age may be
    considered in the Miranda custody analysis, the Supreme Court cautioned that
    “this does not mean that a child’s age will be a determinative, or even a
    significant, factor in every case * * *.” J.D.B., 
    131 S.Ct. 2394
    , syllabus. Bearing
    this in mind, at fourteen years of age, a reasonable juvenile in T.W.’s position
    would, in all likelihood, be intimidated and overwhelmed. There is no evidence
    that T.W. volunteered to go to Children Services. Rather, the evidence reveals
    that T.W.’s mother, at Page’s request, agreed to bring T.W. to Children Services,
    limiting the extent of his control over his being there, and rendering his presence
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    ostensibly involuntary. See Yarborough v. Alvarado, 
    541 U.S. 652
    , 665, 
    124 S.Ct. 2140
     (2004). Shortly after arriving at Children Services, T.W. was escorted away
    from his mother and step-father by two unfamiliar authoritarian figures, one of
    whom was dressed in a police uniform and carried a weapon on his person. See In
    re R.H., 2d Dist. No. 22352, 
    2008-Ohio-773
    , ¶ 20. As Officer Rowe and Page
    escorted T.W. back to the interview room, Shimp and T.W.’s step-father attempted
    to follow them back but Officer Rowe advised them that they could not
    accompany them in the interview room. Last, upon entering the interview room
    the door was closed and T.W. was seated facing Officer Rowe, with either Officer
    Rowe or Page sitting near the door through which they entered the interview room.
    Regardless of who sat near the door, a reasonable juvenile in T.W.’s position
    would likely not feel free to stand, walk past the authoritarian figure seated near
    the door and out of the interview room.
    {¶30} While the foregoing facts tend to weigh in favor of a finding that
    T.W. was in custody, other facts tend to weigh against a finding that T.W. was in
    custody. T.W. was not transported to the interview by a police officer. See
    Yarborough at 664. The interview occurred at Children Services as opposed to a
    police department. But see In re K.W., 3d Dist. 9-08-57, 
    2009-Ohio-3152
    , ¶ 14
    (child found to be in custody during interview at children services agency). The
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    parents waited in the lobby during the interview, suggesting that the interview
    would be brief. See Yarborough at 664. In the lobby, prior to the interview,
    Officer Rowe testified that he informed T.W., Shimp, and T.W.’s step-father that
    T.W. was not under arrest and free to go. Review of the taped interview and
    Officer Rowe’s testimony reveals that T.W. was relaxed during much of the
    interview. Last, during the interview, at approximately eight and twenty-seven
    minutes into the interview, Officer Rowe informed T.W. that he was “not going to
    be arrested,” and that he was “free to go, and [he is] not going to be arrested” that
    day, respectively.
    {¶31} Upon balancing the foregoing facts, we find that the trial court did
    not err in granting T.W.’s motion to suppress. In so finding, we recognize that
    fair-minded jurists could disagree over whether T.W. was in custody, as evidenced
    by the dissent’s opinion. However, under the circumstances of the instant case we
    agree with the trial court, that a reasonable juvenile in T.W.’s position would not
    have felt free to terminate the interview and leave the premises. Accordingly, we
    find that the trial court did not err in determining that T.W. was in custody.
    {¶32} Since T.W. was in custody during the interview he should have been
    administered Miranda warnings. Upon review of the record, there is no evidence
    that T.W. was administered Miranda warnings or voluntarily waived the same.
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    Consequently, the State may not use any statements made during T.W.’s interview
    at trial. Miranda, 
    384 U.S. at 444
    , 
    86 S.Ct. 1602
    .
    {¶33} Accordingly, we overrule the State’s sole assignment of error.
    {¶34} Having found no error prejudicial to the State herein, in the
    particulars assigned and argued, we affirm the judgment of the trial court.
    Judgment Affirmed
    WILLAMOWSKI, J., concurs in Judgment Only.
    /jlr
    SHAW, P.J., DISSENTS
    {¶35} I respectfully dissent from the majority’s decision to affirm this case
    based upon its determination that T.W. was in custody. I would reverse the
    decision of the trial court, not because its findings of fact were unsupported by the
    record, but because its decision to suppress T.W.’s statements was based upon
    misconceptions of the law and T.W.’s rights thereunder. Furthermore, I believe
    the majority in reviewing this case has also relied upon erroneous suppositions in
    order to draw conclusions which are not consistent with the actual evidence
    presented in this case. Having reviewed the record and the law, I would find that
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    T.W. was not in custody, and accordingly, Officer Rowe was not required to
    advise T.W. of his Miranda rights.
    The Trial Court’s Findings
    {¶36} As the majority correctly notes, our review of a trial court’s decision
    on a motion to suppress presents a mixed question of law and fact, which requires
    that we accept the trial court’s findings of facts as long as they are supported by
    competent, credible evidence and that we then conduct a de novo review of the
    trial court’s application of the law to those facts.
    {¶37} In this case, the audio of the interview was recorded and its content is
    unchallenged. There is no dispute that T.W. was brought to Children Services by
    his mother and step-father, that the mother and step-father were not present for the
    actual interview, or about the description of interview room and what Officer
    Rowe was wearing at the time. The only facts in dispute between T.W. and the
    State concerned what was said by Page and/or Officer Rowe to T.W. and his
    mother and step-father regarding whether his mother could be present for the
    interview and T.W.’s right to an attorney.
    {¶38} In resolving this dispute, the trial court found that T.W.’s mother was
    advised of her ability to be present for the interview and of T.W.’s right to an
    attorney. However, the trial court found that these were T.W.’s rights, not his
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    mother’s, and that there was no evidence to indicate that T.W. affirmatively
    waived these either orally or in writing. The trial court then proceeded to rule that
    a juvenile should have a parent or legal guardian present when being interviewed
    for purposes of a possible delinquency prosecution and that an attorney should be
    present with them unless both parent and juvenile sign a written waiver of legal
    representation, which clearly advises both of the juvenile’s right to an attorney and
    evidences their waiver of this right.
    {¶39} In determining that T.W. was in custody, the trial court relied upon
    T.W.’s age of fourteen, lack of prior criminal history, and the length of the
    interview and repeated denials by T.W. of any wrongdoing. The trial court also
    concluded that T.W. was not given an opportunity to end the interview or to
    consult with his mother or an attorney and that his mother should have been
    present along with an attorney (or a written waiver of his right to an attorney).
    Problems with the Trial Court’s Determination of Custody
    {¶40} Contrary to the foregoing factors relied upon by the trial court, the
    law provides no right to have a parent present when a juvenile is questioned by
    law enforcement about a possible delinquency prosecution. See In re Watson
    (1989), 
    47 Ohio St.3d 86
    , 89-90, 
    548 N.E.2d 210
    . Nor does the trial court or the
    majority identify any authority that renders an interview “custodial” because a
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    juvenile’s parent or attorney is not present and the juvenile is not informed that he
    may have a parent and/or attorney present.
    {¶41} As noted by the majority, a “determination of custody depends on the
    objective circumstances of the interrogation, not on the subjective views harbored
    by either the interrogating officers or the person being questioned.” Stansbury,
    
    511 U.S. at 323
    . In addition, as noted by the majority, while the juvenile’s age,
    when an officer is aware of it or it is objectively apparent to a reasonable officer,
    may be taken into consideration in determining custodial status, a person’s prior
    inexperience with law enforcement may not. See Alvarado, 
    supra;
     J.D.B., supra.
    However, the primary question remains whether the circumstances surrounding
    the interrogation would lead a reasonable person to believe that he was not at
    liberty to terminate the interview and leave. Stansbury, 
    supra.
    Problems with the Majority’s Analysis
    {¶42} Here, the majority finds it unreasonable to conclude that a child
    brought to Children Services by parents and then interviewed by a uniformed
    officer wearing a firearm would believe he had the option of terminating the
    interview and leaving the premises. The majority further finds that a collective
    advisement to the juvenile and his parent prior to the interview that the juvenile
    was free to leave and not under arrest, was not sufficient to support a finding that a
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    reasonable juvenile would have felt free to terminate the interview and leave the
    premises. They also conclude that a reasonable juvenile in an interview room with
    two authoritarian figures with whom he is not familiar, one of whom sat near the
    door, would not feel free to stand, walk past the adult, and out of the interview
    room.    Lastly, the majority finds that Officer Rowe’s statements during the
    interview again informing T.W. that he was not going to be arrested and that he
    was free to go, was not sufficient to convince a reasonable juvenile that he was
    actually free to leave the interview. I take exception to each of these conclusions.
    {¶43} First, T.W.’s mother brought him to Children Services, not a police
    station, and, unlike the mothers in In re T.F., 9th Dist. No. 08CA009449, 2009-
    Ohio-3141 , and In re K.W., 
    supra,
     she did not testify that she felt she had no other
    choice but to bring him for the interview.
    {¶44} Second, although the majority relies upon the fact that Officer Rowe
    was armed, which he testified he was, there is no evidence in the record to indicate
    where his gun was located on his person, that the weapon was visible to T.W., or
    that Officer Rowe otherwise displayed and/or brandished it. Rather, Officer Rowe
    testified that he was on light duty so he was not wearing his gun belt or outside
    vest but that he did have his weapon on him. In fact, Page testified that she did not
    believe that Officer Rowe was wearing his gun during the interview, so she most
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    likely would not have seen it. Additionally, the trial court did not make any
    finding about the officer’s weapon and its visibility to T.W. or even reference the
    weapon in its decision. Thus, without any additional information whatsoever as to
    the visibility of the weapon, I believe the majority improperly relies on the fact
    that Officer Rowe was armed to support its decision that a reasonable person
    would not feel at liberty to terminate the interview and leave because of the
    presence of a weapon.
    {¶45} Third, the majority apparently questions, absent any direct evidence,
    whether a fourteen-year-old, such as T.W., who is in a lobby with his mother and
    step-father and is collectively advised along with his mother and step-father that
    he is free to leave and is not under arrest, could have heard and appreciated such
    advisements. However, under these circumstances outlined above, I find that the
    record amply supports an inference that T.W. was able to hear and comprehend
    such advisements.3
    {¶46} For example, there is no evidence that T.W. was far away from this
    conversation or to otherwise indicate that he somehow would not be paying
    attention to what was said regarding an interview he was about to give with “two
    3
    Notably, the trial court made no finding that T.W. did not hear this conversation. The only finding by the
    trial court in this regard was that T.W. had the right to have a parent and/or an attorney present for the
    interview and that there was no evidence that T.W. affirmatively waived these rights.
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    unfamiliar, authoritarian figures.” To the contrary, both Officer Rowe and Page
    indicated that they spoke to the family, including T.W. The family was advised
    that T.W. was not under arrest and was free to leave.
    {¶47} In sum, there is simply no basis in the record for the majority to
    conclude that a fourteen-year-old, who is the object of this type of discussion,
    under these circumstances would somehow not be paying attention and fail to
    understand that he is not under arrest and is free to leave. This case does not
    involve a young child who may not appreciate the nature of the interview or what
    it means to be free to leave and not under arrest. In fact, throughout the interview,
    T.W. was able to easily follow the conversation, answer questions without any
    problems, repeatedly assert his innocence, and in no way seemed incapable of
    hearing and understanding the conversation.
    {¶48} Fourth, the majority’s conclusion that a reasonable juvenile would
    not feel free to stand, walk past the authoritarian figures, and out of the interview
    room also ignores the evidence in the record.        Page testified that during the
    conversation she had with the family that T.W. was instructed that if he ever felt
    uncomfortable or wanted to leave the room, he was welcome to do that. T.W. was
    also told that if he needed to take a break because things got too emotional for
    him, he could take a break. Additionally, T.W. knew his mother and step-father
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    were waiting in the lobby, and the family had been told that T.W.’s mother could
    be present for the interview but that the agency preferred that parents not be
    present. However, at no point did T.W. ask for a break, ask to speak to his mother
    or step-father, indicate that he did not want to talk any longer, or otherwise
    indicate that he wanted to terminate the interview and/or leave. Furthermore,
    Officer Rowe testified that T.W. was somewhat relaxed during the interview and
    understood what was happening. A review of the audio recording also reveals that
    T.W.’s tone of voice is conversational, and he does not appear tired or emotionally
    stressed.
    {¶49} Lastly, the majority concludes that Officer Rowe’s statements to
    T.W. during the interview at eight minutes and again at twenty-seven minutes,
    respectively, informing T.W. for the third time that day that he was not going to be
    arrested and that he was free to go, was still not sufficient to convince a reasonable
    juvenile that he was actually free to leave the interview. Such a conclusion is pure
    conjecture and is not remotely supported by the record in this case.
    {¶50} These statements, while in the midst of a line of questioning, were
    not rushed or made in a way that was confusing or misleading. They were plain
    and simple statements made to a fourteen-year-old who was more than capable of
    following along with the conversation, answering questions thoroughly, asking
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    questions when needed, and able to comprehend what was being said to him.4 The
    interview was civil, voices were not raised, and the language used by Officer
    Rowe was never complicated.
    {¶51} In addition, when Officer Rowe made the second statement during
    the interview regarding T.W.’s custodial status, he not only told T.W. that he was
    free to go but that he was not going to be arrested and would return home with his
    parents or to school that day, or “wherever your day takes you.” He then told
    T.W. that he would like for him to tell him the truth today before he went to the
    trouble of a lie detector test in a couple of weeks. He advised him, however, that
    he was not threatening T.W. and was not telling T.W. that he was going to take
    T.W. “to jail or anything like that.” To find that a reasonable juvenile would not
    feel free to terminate the interview and leave after being told in no uncertain terms
    that he was not under arrest and free to leave prior to an interview in the company
    of his parents and again at two separate and distinct points in an interview
    presumes that fourteen-year-olds are incapable of discerning sincerity or
    4
    Although T.W. was not able to accurately spell the words “touch” or “Dakota” in his written statement,
    everything else in his interview with Officer Rowe demonstrated that he was able to comprehend what was
    being said and asked of him. We note that many adults from ages 18 to 80 have trouble spelling, but this
    does not render them incapable of comprehending what is said to them.
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    comprehending what these statements mean, a presumption totally unsupported by
    any facts in the record.
    {¶52} More importantly, under the majority’s view, an officer would have
    to essentially engage in a Miranda-like analysis to determine whether a juvenile is
    in custody, i.e. like each right of Miranda, the officer would have to ask whether
    the juvenile understood he was not in custody. Neither the Constitutions of the
    United States or Ohio nor the case law interpreting them requires that an officer
    make such an affirmative determination.
    {¶53} In this case, the record reflects that T.W. was fourteen, that he was
    brought to Children Services by his mother and step-father, that the family was
    told that his mother could be present and that T.W. was not under arrest and was
    free to leave, and that his mother and step-father waited for him in the lobby while
    he was interviewed for just over an hour. In addition, T.W.’s voice sounded
    relaxed and he appeared able to understand what was being said during the
    interview. T.W. was able to respond to the questions without any problems, and
    Officer Rowe never raised his voice or otherwise acted uncivilized towards T.W.
    {¶54} More importantly, T.W. was told prior to the interview that he could
    take a break if he needed to do so and was told during the interview at two
    separate times in plain words that he was free to leave and was not under arrest.
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    T.W. never asked in any way for a break, to terminate the interview, or to leave.
    Further, there was no other evidence that T.W. somehow felt compelled to stay.
    Given all of these circumstances, I believe it is unreasonable for this court to
    determine that T.W. was in custody. Thus, Miranda does not apply, and the trial
    court erred in suppressing his statements. I would reverse the decision of the trial
    court and remand for further proceedings.
    /jlr
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