Christian Cutler v. Stephen F. Austin State Univ , 767 F.3d 462 ( 2014 )


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  •      Case: 13-40685        Document: 00512769309          Page: 1      Date Filed: 09/15/2014
    IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS
    FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT
    United States Court of Appeals
    Fifth Circuit
    No. 13-40685                                FILED
    September 15, 2014
    Lyle W. Cayce
    CHRISTIAN CUTLER,                                                                   Clerk
    Plaintiff–Appellee
    v.
    STEPHEN F. AUSTIN STATE UNIVERSITY; BAKER PATTILLO, President
    of Stephen F. Austin University; RICHARD BERRY, Vice President of
    Stephen F. Austin; A. C. HIMES, Dean of Fine Arts at Stephen F. Austin
    University; SCOTT ROBINSON,
    Defendants–Appellants
    Appeal from the United States District Court
    for the Eastern District of Texas
    Before DENNIS and PRADO, Circuit Judges, and BROWN, District Judge. ∗
    EDWARD C. PRADO, Circuit Judge:
    Plaintiff–Appellee         Christian     Cutler     (“Cutler”)    sued      Defendants–
    Appellants (“Defendants”), university officials at Stephen F. Austin State
    University (the “University”), under 
    42 U.S.C. § 1983
     alleging he was fired in
    retaliation for the exercise of protected speech in violation of the First
    Amendment. Specifically, Cutler alleges he was fired from his position as
    Director of the University’s art galleries after he told a member of U.S.
    Representative Louie Gohmert’s staff that he believed Rep. Gohmert was a
    ∗
    District Judge of the Eastern District of Louisiana, sitting by designation.
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    “fear monger.” The central dispute in the case is whether Cutler was speaking
    as a citizen on a matter of public concern within the protection of the First
    Amendment or pursuant to official duties. Defendants appeal the district
    court’s denial of summary judgment on qualified immunity grounds.           We
    affirm.
    I. FACTUAL AND PROCEDURAL BACKGROUND
    In 2007, Christian Cutler became Director of Art Galleries at Stephen F.
    Austin State University, a public university located in Nacogdoches, Texas.
    See Tex. Educ. Code § 101.01(a). The job required Cutler to “oversee[] the
    planning and execution of exhibition and other programs that support the
    mission of the School of Art, the University, and the larger East Texas arts
    community.” The job’s particular responsibilities included “maintain[ing] good
    public relations, including working with community support groups, as well as
    coordinating special events with other arts and cultural groups in the area”;
    “[s]erv[ing] as liaison between the University and the larger arts community”;
    and “[p]lan[ning] and mak[ing] arrangements for [the] annual calendar of
    exhibitions.”
    According to Cutler, sometime in 2010, a member of Representative
    Louie Gohmert’s staff called Cutler to invite him to “jury”—that is, curate and
    judge—a high school art exhibition and contest in Tyler, Texas, hosted by the
    representative. Cutler recalls the conversation being “very vague” and recalls
    asking the staff member to send him more information, which the staff member
    agreed to do.   When Cutler did not hear from Rep. Gohmert’s office, he
    researched Rep. Gohmert on the Internet to learn more about him. Cutler
    formed a negative impression of Rep. Gohmert after reading his widely
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    publicized statements 1 and concluded that he would decline Rep. Gohmert’s
    offer when he next spoke to the staff member. According to Cutler, in early
    September 2010, following an exchange of phone messages with members of
    Rep. Gohmert’s staff, Cutler again spoke with Rep. Gohmert’s staff to say he
    was no longer interested in jurying Rep. Gohmert’s art show. In the course of
    explaining his rejection, Cutler explained his impression that Rep. Gohmert
    was a fear monger with whom Cutler did not want to be associated.
    Citing deposition testimony from Cutler and Rep. Gohmert’s staff
    member, the Defendants maintain that the staff member called Cutler to
    express Rep. Gohmert’s interest in hosting the contest at the University. The
    Defendants further contend that Cutler was made aware of this invitation to
    host a competition, not to jury one, in his second conversation with Rep.
    Gohmert’s staff member.
    On September 20, 2010, Cutler received a letter from Rep. Gohmert in
    response to the rejection, copying University President Dr. Baker Pattillo
    (“Pattillo”). In the letter, Rep. Gohmert expressed disappointment that Cutler
    would “not host the Congressional High School Art Competition this fall
    because you did not ‘want to be involved in any way’ with me,” and informed
    Cutler that “[w]e will not bother you in the future” with an invitation to host
    the event.
    The same day Pattillo received the letter, he instructed University
    Provost Dr. Richard Berry (“Berry”) to look into the matter. Berry in turn told
    1  These included Rep. Gohmert’s statement on the floor of the House of
    Representatives about “terror babies,” in which Rep. Gohmert claimed that a retired FBI
    agent had told him the FBI was investigating overseas terrorism cells planning to place
    pregnant women in the United States. According to Gohmert, the women were to have a
    baby or babies and return back overseas to raise the children, now U.S. citizens, to become
    future terrorists, so the children could someday return to “destroy our way of life.” 156 Cong.
    Rec. H4867 (daily ed. June 24, 2010) (statement of Rep. Gohmert).
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    University Dean of Fine Arts Dr. Addison C. Himes (“Himes”) to get Cutler’s
    story.    Himes delegated the task to Dr. Scott Robinson (“Robinson”), the
    Director of the School of Art Galleries and Cutler’s direct supervisor. That
    evening, just hours after Cutler and Pattillo had received Rep. Gohmert’s
    letter, Cutler received a call from Robinson, who wanted to discuss the
    incident. Robinson took down notes from the call.
    The following morning, on September 21, Berry, Himes, and Robinson
    met to discuss the call. Robinson recounted his conversation with Cutler and
    shared his notes. Berry also reviewed prior reports of Cutler’s conduct. On
    September 22, Cutler sent an unsolicited email to Pattillo, Himes, and
    Robinson explaining the incident. On September 23, Cutler met with Himes
    and then with Berry.       Berry then recommended that Pattillo fire Cutler.
    Pattillo accepted Berry’s recommendation. On September 27, Himes gave
    Cutler a letter of termination from Berry. Cutler was offered the opportunity
    to resign and resigned immediately.
    On October 14, 2011, Cutler sued Pattillo, Berry, Himes, and Robinson
    in federal court under 
    42 U.S.C. § 1983
     alleging retaliation for the exercise of
    protected speech in violation of the First Amendment. Following full discovery,
    Defendants filed a motion for summary judgment on the merits of Cutler’s
    claim and asserting qualified immunity. The district court denied the motion
    on both grounds. The district court found that there was a genuine issue of
    material fact as to whether Himes and Robinson exerted influence over the
    ultimate decision. In response to Defendants’ arguments that an employer’s
    decisionmaking should be given some deference following a reasonable
    investigation, the district court found a “genuine fact issue as to whether
    Defendants conducted a reasonable investigation and, as a consequence,
    whether they reasonably found that Cutler was responding” in an official
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    capacity.   The court further found that Cutler had presented sufficient
    evidence to create a genuine fact issue as to whether “Cutler or Defendants
    reasonably believed that Cutler was responding to a request to jury an art
    contest as a private citizen or to host the contest at SFA in his official capacity.”
    Finally, the court found that the Defendants were not entitled to summary
    judgment on qualified immunity grounds.
    The Defendants filed a timely notice of appeal, and the district court
    granted the Defendants’ motion to stay trial pending this interlocutory appeal.
    II. JURISDICTION
    Defendants raise two issues on appeal: whether the district court erred
    in denying summary judgment on qualified immunity grounds; and whether
    the district court erred in denying summary judgment for Robinson and Himes
    on the grounds that those two university officials were not final
    decisionmakers whose conduct is covered by § 1983. The parties first contest
    whether our court has jurisdiction to hear these claims.
    A.     Legal Questions on Qualified Immunity Appealable
    Although a denial of summary judgment is typically unappealable,
    defendants have a limited ability to appeal a denial of qualified immunity
    under the collateral order doctrine.       We have jurisdiction over denials of
    qualified immunity only “to the extent that the district court’s order turns on
    an issue of law.” Kovacic v. Villarreal, 
    628 F.3d 209
    , 211 (5th Cir. 2010).
    This court does “not have jurisdiction to review the genuineness of any
    factual disputes but can decide whether the factual disputes are material.” 
    Id.
    at 211 n.1. We have “jurisdiction to review the materiality of disputed facts as
    well as the district court’s legal analysis as it pertains to qualified immunity.”
    Wyatt v. Fletcher, 
    718 F.3d 496
    , 502 (5th Cir. 2013).            That is, we have
    “jurisdiction only to decide whether the district court erred in concluding as a
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    matter of law that officials are not entitled to qualified immunity on a given
    set of facts.” Kinney v. Weaver, 
    367 F.3d 337
    , 347 (5th Cir. 2004) (en banc).
    Consequently, in the course of our analysis, we must disentangle those
    arguments that raise mere factual disagreements, over which we lack
    jurisdiction, from those that raise purely legal questions.
    B.    Final-Decisionmaker Merits Issue Unappealable
    Cutler contends that the Defendants cannot raise their final-
    decisionmaker issue as a part of the qualified-immunity appeal because the
    Defendants never raised these arguments below. We find it doubtful that the
    Defendants waived this argument. But Cutler is nevertheless correct that we
    cannot hear Defendants’ fact-dependent final-decisionmaker claim.
    The Supreme Court has concluded that the final-decisionmaker question
    is a mere defense from liability, not an immunity from suit. See Swint v.
    Chambers Cnty. Comm’n, 
    514 U.S. 35
    , 43 (1995) (“The commission’s assertion
    that Sheriff Morgan is not its policymaker does not rank, under our decisions,
    as an immunity from suit. Instead, the plea ranks as a ‘mere defense to
    liability.’” (citation omitted)). As a mere defense from liability, the issue cannot
    satisfy the collateral order doctrine test.        Far from being a separate,
    unreviewable, and conclusive order, the district court’s denial of summary
    judgment on these grounds is instead “tentative, informal or incomplete.” 
    Id.
    at 42 (citing Cohen v. Beneficial Indus. Loan Corp., 
    337 U.S. 541
    , 546 (1949)).
    Any “erroneous ruling on liability may be reviewed effectively on appeal from
    final judgment.” Id. at 43.
    Moreover, we lack jurisdiction to hear the claim under the doctrine of
    pendent appellate jurisdiction.     “Pendent appellate jurisdiction may exist
    where, in the interest of judicial economy, courts have discretion to review
    interlocutory rulings related to independently appealable orders when the two
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    are ‘inextricably intertwined.’” Byrum v. Landreth, 
    566 F.3d 442
    , 449 (5th Cir.
    2009) (citing Swint, 
    514 U.S. at
    43–44, 51).         But these claims are not so
    inextricably intertwined that the court should exercise pendent appellate
    jurisdiction. Himes and Robinson must prove a different set of facts to show
    that they are not liable as final decisionmakers than they must prove to show
    they enjoy qualified immunity from suit.
    Finally, policy considerations do not favor granting pendent appellate
    jurisdiction here. Pendent appellate jurisdiction would not serve the interests
    of judicial economy, because common factual and legal issues will not
    necessarily be resolved by the qualified-immunity appeal. In fact, the court
    should be especially wary of granting jurisdiction here for fear of allowing
    parties to “parlay . . . collateral orders into multi-issue interlocutory appeal
    tickets.” Swint, 
    514 U.S. at
    49–50; see also Jamie S. v. Milwaukee Pub. Sch.,
    
    668 F.3d 481
    , 492 (7th Cir. 2012) (chiding appellants for using pendent
    appellate jurisdiction as a “bootstrapping procedural maneuver”).
    III. STANDARD OF REVIEW
    Our court does not conduct a typical de novo review for an interlocutory
    appeal of a denial of summary judgment on qualified immunity grounds. See
    Kinney, 
    367 F.3d at 348
     (explaining that the court does “not apply the standard
    of Rule 56”). We “instead consider only whether the district court erred in
    assessing the legal significance of the conduct that the district court deemed
    sufficiently supported for purposes of summary judgment.” 
    Id.
     “Where factual
    disputes exist in an interlocutory appeal asserting qualified immunity, we
    accept the plaintiff[’s] version of the facts as true.” 
    Id.
     But “[i]n reviewing the
    district    court’s   conclusions   concerning     the   legal     consequences—the
    materiality—of the facts, our review is of course de novo.” 
    Id. at 349
     (citation
    omitted).
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    IV. DISCUSSION
    To overcome an official’s qualified immunity defense, a plaintiff must
    show that the evidence, viewed in the light most favorable to him, is sufficient
    to establish a genuine dispute “(1) that the official violated a statutory or
    constitutional right, and (2) that the right was ‘clearly established’ at the time
    of the challenged conduct.” Ashcroft v. al–Kidd, 
    131 S. Ct. 2074
    , 2080 (2011);
    see also Haverda v. Hays Cnty., 
    723 F.3d 586
    , 598 (5th Cir. 2013). We have
    discretion to decide which of the two steps of qualified immunity to address
    first. Pearson v. Callahan, 
    555 U.S. 223
    , 236 (2009). 2
    “[T]he First Amendment protects a public employee’s right, in certain
    circumstances, to speak as a citizen addressing matters of public concern.”
    Garcetti v. Ceballos, 
    547 U.S. 410
    , 417 (2006).               To determine whether an
    employee’s right has been violated, we first ask a threshold question: Was the
    employee’s speech made pursuant to the employee’s duties or as a citizen on a
    matter of public concern? See 
    id. at 418
     (“The first [step] requires determining
    whether the employee spoke as a citizen on a matter of public concern.”); see
    also Davis v. McKinney, 
    518 F.3d 304
    , 312 (5th Cir. 2008) (discussing the new
    test in light of Garcetti). Second, if the employee was speaking “as a citizen, in
    2 Defendants suggest an alternative statement of the two steps, under which we first
    determine “whether the plaintiff has alleged a violation of a clearly established constitutional
    or statutory right,” and second determine “whether the defendant’s conduct was objectively
    reasonable.” Wyatt, 718 F.3d at 502–03 (citing Jones v. City of Jackson, 
    203 F.3d 875
    , 879
    (5th Cir. 2000)). We reject that suggestion.
    Wyatt’s two-prong test at best represents an adequate formulation of the second step
    of the qualified immunity test the Supreme Court recently restated in al–Kidd. Even so, this
    formulation is awkward to apply. “Clearly established law” is inextricably intertwined with
    the concept of “objective reasonableness”: law is clearly established if it puts an objectively
    reasonable official on fair warning that his conduct is unlawful. See Kinney, 
    367 F.3d at 349
    .
    At worst, the Wyatt test ignores each court’s discretion to answer the first step—whether the
    plaintiff has made out a violation of a constitutional or statutory right—irrespective of
    whether that right is clearly established. See Pearson, 
    555 U.S. at 236
     (noting that
    consideration of the first step is “often beneficial,” even where the law is not clearly
    established).
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    commenting upon matters of public concern,” we balance the employee’s speech
    interest with the government employer’s interest “in promoting the efficiency
    of the public services it performs.” Lane v. Franks, 
    134 S. Ct. 2369
    , 2377 (2014)
    (quoting Pickering v. Bd. of Educ., 
    391 U.S. 563
    , 568 (1968)); see also Juarez v.
    Aguilar, 
    666 F.3d 325
    , 332 (5th Cir. 2011) (summarizing this second step as a
    four-prong test for First Amendment retaliation). 3
    The Supreme Court has recognized that in applying this test, a dispute
    sometimes arises as to “the factual basis for applying the test,” that is, “what
    the speech was, in what tone it was delivered, [and] what the listener’s
    reactions were.”      Waters v. Churchill, 
    511 U.S. 661
    , 668 (1994) (plurality
    opinion). 4 Rather than having the judicial factfinder independently resolve
    these factual disputes, the Waters Court instructed lower courts to take a
    deferential approach: when an employer’s decision rests on a reasonable belief
    about the contents of the speech, formed after an objectively reasonable
    investigation of the facts to determine what the employee actually said, then
    the court should not second-guess the employer’s decision, even if the employer
    was wrong and the speech was entitled to protection. 
    Id.
     at 677–78.
    A.     Violation of a Constitutional Right
    Before the district court, the Defendants conceded that Cutler had
    suffered an adverse employment decision and that Cutler’s speech had
    3  A First Amendment retaliation claim also must show that the employer took an
    adverse employment action and the speech motivated the employer’s conduct. See, e.g.,
    Juarez, 
    666 F.3d at 332
    . Those elements are not at issue here, and we do not discuss them.
    4 Although Justice O’Connor only wrote for a plurality of the Court, as Justice Souter
    wrote in a concurring opinion, “the reasonableness test [the opinion] sets out is clearly the
    one that lower courts should apply. A majority of the Court agrees that employers whose
    conduct survives the plurality’s reasonableness test cannot be held constitutionally liable.”
    Id. at 685 (Souter, J., concurring) (citing the plurality opinion and Justice Scalia’s opinion
    concurring in the judgment, joined by Justice Kennedy and Justice Thomas).
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    motivated their conduct.     Defendants also did not raise any arguments
    regarding the crucial Pickering balancing test. As a result, the district court
    stated that the only issue before it was “whether Cutler spoke as a citizen on a
    matter of public concern or as an official pursuant to his duties.” It concluded
    that Cutler had presented sufficient evidence to create a genuine factual
    dispute on this element.
    On appeal, the Defendants effectively abandon any argument that
    Cutler has not sufficiently established a genuine dispute whether the
    Defendants violated his constitutional right. Therefore, we must assume that
    Cutler has alleged a violation of his First Amendment right and proceed to the
    second step of the qualified immunity analysis.
    B.    Clearly Established Law
    The Defendants raise two principal challenges to the district court’s
    conclusion that Cutler’s right was clearly established such that the Defendants
    had fair warning that their conduct was objectively unreasonable. First, the
    Defendants contend that, in 2010, the First Amendment right to be free from
    retaliation for protected speech was too abstract or general to give them fair
    warning that their conduct was objectively unreasonable.            Second, the
    Defendants argue that it was not clearly established that their investigation
    into the content of Cutler’s communications with Rep. Gohmert’s office was
    unreasonable and thus entitled to no deference.
    For a law to be “clearly established,” the law must so clearly and
    unambiguously prohibit an official’s conduct that “every reasonable official
    would have understood that what he is doing violates that right.” al-Kidd, 
    131 S. Ct. at 2083
     (internal quotation marks omitted). The court does not need to
    have “a case directly on point.” 
    Id.
     Rather, “existing precedent must have
    placed the statutory or constitutional question beyond debate.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis
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    added). What is crucial is that the Defendants had “fair warning.” Hope v.
    Pelzer, 
    536 U.S. 730
    , 741 (2002).
    1.    Speech as a Citizen After Garcetti
    Neither the parties nor the district court paints an accurate picture of
    “the landscape of [Fifth] Circuit precedent” at the time of the Defendants’
    actions. Lane, 
    134 S. Ct. at 2382
    . The Defendants argue that our holding in
    Morgan v. Swanson, 
    659 F.3d 359
     (5th Cir. 2011) (en banc), should apply with
    equal force to this case. In Morgan, the en banc court addressed a student’s
    First Amendment claim against educators relating to candy canes with
    religious references at school—invoking the balance between free speech rights
    and the Establishment Clause. See 659 F.3d at 379–82. The court granted the
    school officials qualified immunity because
    the general state of the law in this area is abstruse, complicated,
    and subject to great debate among jurists. At the time of the
    incidents in question, neither a single “controlling authority” nor a
    “robust consensus of persuasive authority” had held that the First
    Amendment prohibits school principals from restricting the
    distribution of written religious materials in public elementary
    schools.
    Id. at 382. Despite reciting the Morgan court’s conclusion, the Defendants do
    not explain how the law in the present case presents similar difficulties.
    Cutler insists that the district court correctly stated the clearly
    established law. Yet, the district court relies on a single case for establishing
    a clearly established right. See Cutler v. Pattillo, No. 2:11-CV-00447, 
    2013 WL 2543059
    , at *4 (E.D. Tex. June 10, 2013) (“[I]t was clearly established law that
    taking adverse-employment action against an employee for political reasons
    violates the First Amendment.” (citing Correa v. Fischer, 
    982 F.2d 931
    , 933
    (5th Cir. 1993))). The district court appears to cite Correa for its holding that
    “termination of employees for political reasons is presumptively violative of the
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    First Amendment.” 
    982 F.2d at 933
    . But Correa dealt with a patronage
    dismissal, unlike this case. Correa requires proof of elements unnecessary for
    a general First Amendment retaliation claim, namely, that the official conduct
    against the employee was taken “for political reasons.” 
    Id.
     Alternatively,
    Cutler proposes that we should look no further than New York Times Co. v.
    Sullivan, 
    376 U.S. 254
    , 269–71 (1964), for the clearly established law. The
    soaring rhetoric and historical sweep of that opinion’s First Amendment
    statement run headlong into al-Kidd’s repudiation of overly abstract
    articulations of law. See al-Kidd, 
    131 S. Ct. at 2084
    .
    A better place to start the examination of “clearly established law” is the
    First Amendment retaliation standard, as it has been consistently applied
    since Garcetti. In Garcetti, a deputy district attorney reported to his supervisor
    that there were inaccuracies in an affidavit supporting a search warrant and
    recommended that the office refrain from prosecuting the case. See 
    547 U.S. at
    413–14, 421.     The deputy alleged that he was subjected to a series of
    retaliatory actions in response to this intra-office speech. 
    Id. at 414
    . The
    Supreme Court concluded that the deputy’s speech was not entitled to First
    Amendment protection because it was made pursuant to his official duties,
    specifically in fulfillment of his responsibility to advise his supervisor about
    how best to proceed with a pending case. 
    Id.
     at 421–23.
    Yet, Garcetti alone may not “clearly establish” Cutler’s First Amendment
    right. Garcetti did not “articulate a comprehensive framework for defining the
    scope of an employee’s duties in cases where there is room for serious debate.”
    
    Id. at 424
    .   After all, Garcetti “did not explicate what it means to speak
    pursuant to one’s official duties, although we do know that a formal job
    description is not dispositive . . . [,] nor is speaking on the subject matter of
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    one’s employment.” Williams v. Dall. Indep. Sch. Dist., 
    480 F.3d 689
    , 692 (5th
    Cir. 2007) (per curiam) (citations and internal quotation marks omitted).
    Several pre-2010 decisions have, however, given the Defendants the “fair
    warning” they need. This circuit began the task of embroidering Garcetti’s
    general rule with new fact patterns in 2007 in Williams. There, the court
    considered whether a memorandum sent by a school athletic director to a
    school principal about the misuse of athletic funds was official speech. 
    Id.
     at
    689–91.   It was undisputed that the director was not required to write
    memoranda as part of his regular job duties, but the court nonetheless held
    that his speech was made pursuant to his official duties. 
    Id.
     at 693–94. The
    court reasoned that “[a]ctivities undertaken in the course of performing one’s
    job are activities pursuant to official duties.” Id at 693. The memorandum
    concerned matters immediately within the athletic director’s purview—the use
    of funds for the school athletic teams and the related accounting procedures.
    Thus, the speech was made as part of his official duties. 
    Id. at 694
    .
    In Davis, the court held that an information systems auditor spoke in
    part as a citizen on a matter of public concern when she sent reports to the
    EEOC, FBI, and university officials seeking investigation into complaints she
    made while working for the University of Texas system. 
    518 F.3d at
    307–18.
    Davis worked for the University of Texas Health Science Center in Houston,
    and she conducted an audit of university computers and discovered
    pornography. 
    Id.
     at 307–08. Davis approached various administrators to
    address the issue, but she considered their response to be inadequate. 
    Id.
     at
    308–09. She sent a complaint letter to her immediate supervisors and to the
    Chancellor, in which she noted that she had also filed complaints with the FBI
    regarding possible child pornography and the EEOC about workplace
    discrimination. 
    Id. at 309, 314
    . Davis analyzed the issue based on whether
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    the speech was directed to internal chains of command or externally and
    whether the content of the speech was about job concerns or not. See 
    id.
     at
    313–16. Since Davis’s complaints to the FBI and EEOC were clearly made
    outside of the chain of command and her duties as an auditor did not require
    that she communicate with law enforcement, the court held that the
    complaints constituted citizen speech. 
    Id. at 316
    .
    Similarly, in Charles v. Grief, 
    522 F.3d 508
     (5th Cir. 2008), this court
    found that a member of the Texas Lottery Commission spoke as a citizen when
    he sent an email to members of the Texas Legislature as well as high-ranking
    Lottery Commission officials raising concerns about racial discrimination and
    retaliation against him and other minority employees of the Commission. 
    Id. at 510
    . There the court considered the fact that the speech “was not made in
    the course of performing or fulfilling his job responsibilities, was not even
    indirectly related to his job, and was not made to higher-ups in his organization
    . . . but was communicated directly to elected representatives of the people.”
    
    Id. at 514
    .
    These cases should have provided Defendants with a clear warning that
    terminating Cutler on the basis of his speech to Rep. Gohmert’s office—based
    on the undisputed facts and taking all reasonable inferences in Cutler’s favor—
    would violate Cutler’s First Amendment right. Assuming that Cutler’s account
    of his conversations with Rep. Gohmert’s office is credible, as we must do,
    Cutler’s speech was made externally to a staff member of an “elected
    representative[] of the people” allegedly about participating in an event that
    was not within his job requirements. See 
    id.
     Cutler spoke about concerns
    entirely unrelated to his job and from a perspective that did not depend on his
    job as a university employee, but rather emanated from his views as a citizen.
    See Williams, 
    480 F.3d at
    693–94.       Therefore, reasonable officials in the
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    Defendants’ position should have known on the basis of Charles and Davis that
    Cutler’s speech was protected as the speech of a citizen and that their decision
    to terminate Cutler on the basis of that citizen speech would violate Cutler’s
    First Amendment right.
    2.    Reasonable Investigation Under Waters
    Next, the Defendants argue that reasonable officials in their positions
    would not have known that, under the circumstances, their investigation was
    an unreasonable one. We hold that the law of this circuit clearly established
    what a reasonable investigation was such that a reasonable official would have
    known that the Defendants’ investigation was unreasonable under the
    circumstances.
    The district court found that there was a material fact issue as to
    whether the investigation was reasonable. The district court found that Cutler
    had presented evidence that the Defendants ignored Cutler’s explanations of
    the incident and focused inordinately on the University’s relationship with
    Rep. Gohmert. The court cited evidence that Berry had directed Himes to fire
    Cutler before Cutler had even spoken to Berry, that Himes admitted that he
    “could see where [Cutler] would feel that [he was being railroaded]” and
    Himes’s admission that though “some sort of investigation” would normally
    occur after such an incident, “there wasn’t any investigation [here] per se.”
    Taking these facts as true and drawing all reasonable inferences in Cutler’s
    favor, the Defendants could not have thought that their informal
    decisionmaking over the course of three days was a reasonable investigation to
    which our court would accord deference.
    What constitutes a reasonable investigation prior to terminating a public
    employee for speech that is likely protected is beyond debate in our circuit. In
    Salge v. Edna Independent School District, 
    411 F.3d 178
     (5th Cir. 2005), our
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    court examined what a minimally adequate investigation had to include. The
    court surveyed our precedent applying Waters and concluded that the
    employer’s “de minimis” investigation “fell far short of any investigation that
    we have ever held to be reasonable.” 
    Id. at 193
    . The court compared the
    circumstances of that case to the investigation in Johnson v. Louisiana, 
    369 F.3d 826
     (5th Cir. 2004), in which our court found that the employers had
    conducted a reasonable investigation. 
    Id.
     (citing Johnson, 
    369 F.3d at
    832–
    33). In Johnson, the court relied on the fact that “(1) [the employer] received
    statements from three employees, (2) . . . obtained a supervisor’s report stating
    that the supervisor believed that the plaintiff was lying, and (3) the plaintiff
    ‘fail[ed] to present any evidence in his own support even when explicitly invited
    to do so.’” 
    Id.
     (quoting Johnson, 
    369 F.3d at 832
    ). The court also summarized
    the investigation in Waters:
    [T]he investigation approved by the Supreme Court comprised the
    employer (1) thrice interviewing the employee who originally
    complained about Churchill’s speech, (2) questioning another
    employee who had witnessed the conversation for corroboration,
    and (3) most significantly, conversing with the employee whose
    speech was at issue. Although the Court noted that the employer
    had not interviewed the plaintiff before telling her that she was
    fired, it relied on the fact that, after her discharge, the plaintiff
    filed an internal grievance and was afforded a meeting with the
    hospital president to tell her side of the story. And, even then,
    before making the plaintiff’s employment termination final, the
    hospital conducted yet another interview with the employee who
    had originally complained about the plaintiff’s speech and sought
    assurances of all employees’ credibility from supervisors.
    
    Id.
     (citing Waters, 
    511 U.S. at 666, 680
    ). At the very least, the court suggested,
    “without at least asking an employee what she said, an employer’s
    indispensable investigation into whether an employee’s speech was protected
    will not be reasonable.” 
    Id.
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    Moreover, in each prior case, the pre-termination investigation the court
    has found reasonable was the product of written reports and involved routine
    procedural channels for investigation. In Waters, the Court noted that the
    plaintiff availed herself of internal grievance procedures, in the course of which
    decisionmakers had the opportunity to review “written reports” and conduct
    follow-up interviews. 
    511 U.S. at
    666–67. In Johnson, the decisionmaker acted
    on an “investigative report” submitted to him by a subordinate, and the
    decisionmaker invited the plaintiff to “submit evidence” and other statements
    in support of his claims.     
    369 F.3d at 829
    .      In Salge, by contrast, the
    decisionmaker made no report and compiled no evidence, and we held the
    investigation was unreasonable. 
    411 F.3d at 183
    , 194–95.
    In sum, our court has made clear that reasonableness depends in part
    on an investigation’s thoroughness and typically results from some formal
    process for reviewing evidence and weighing disputed claims. This is true even
    though Waters clearly stated that an investigation “need not be [conducted
    with] the care with which trials, with their rules of evidence and procedure,
    are conducted.” 
    511 U.S. at
    677–78; cf. Gonzales v. Dall. Cnty., 
    249 F.3d 406
    ,
    412 (5th Cir. 2001) (granting qualified immunity because “the fact that
    [defendants] may have relied on hearsay or made credibility determinations . . .
    does not necessarily suggest that the decision to terminate . . . was
    unreasonable”). Still, the investigation has to be made according to “the care
    that a reasonable manager would use before making an employment decision—
    discharge, suspension, reprimand, or whatever else—of the sort involved in the
    particular case.” Waters, 
    511 U.S. at 678
    . The Defendants are incorrect that
    all that was required of them was to “talk to the employee and talk to the direct
    witness to the speech at issue.” Our circuit has made clear that more than just
    talking is required to conduct an investigation.
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    By this standard, taking the facts as Cutler has established, the
    Defendants here should have known that their investigation was woefully
    inadequate.     Most importantly, unlike every other case, the Defendants
    prepared no report and operated according to an ad hoc process. The only
    written record before the court is Robinson’s vague and incomplete notes of his
    conversation with Cutler. Based on Himes’s statements, one could reasonably
    infer that the Defendants had regular investigative procedures available to
    them but chose not to use them.         The Defendants conducted only two
    interviews, far fewer than in any case we have previously found reasonable.
    Based on our review of similar cases, we conclude that every reasonable official
    in the Defendants’ positions would have known based on these cases that an
    informal, hastily concluded investigation would be unreasonable.
    In addition, the Defendants’ investigation was not conducted in good
    faith as is required by Waters. As the Waters Court stated, “It is necessary
    that the decisionmaker reach its conclusion about what was said in good faith,
    rather than as a pretext.” 
    511 U.S. at 677
    . The district court found facts that
    suggest the Defendants’ investigation was pretextual. The Defendants could
    not be said to be acting in good faith on the investigation, if, as the district
    court found, Berry had already concluded that the University should fire
    Cutler, before Berry had even spoken with Cutler. Evidence also suggests that
    Berry formed his termination decision based on past reports of Cutler’s
    interactions with staff unrelated to his communications to Rep. Gohmert’s
    office. Any reasonable official would know on the basis of Waters that an
    investigation    that     was    pretextual     could   not    be     reasonable.
    To be clear, this holding does not foreclose the Defendants from later
    proving that they are entitled to qualified immunity. Trial may resolve the
    central credibility determination: whose account of the content of Cutler’s
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    conversations is correct. We only reach the conclusion that the law was clearly
    established based on the undisputed facts and accepting plaintiff’s version of
    the facts that the district court found disputed. We lack jurisdiction to second-
    guess the district court’s factual determinations at this early juncture.
    Therefore, we hold that the district court did not err in finding that the
    law was “clearly established.”
    V. CONCLUSION
    In conclusion, we affirm the district court’s denial of summary judgment
    on qualified immunity grounds and dismiss all of Defendants’ other claims.
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