Commonwealth v. Schultz , 2016 Pa. Super. 12 ( 2016 )


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    2016 Pa. Super. 12
    COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA,                     IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
    PENNSYLVANIA
    Appellee
    v.
    GARY CHARLES SCHULTZ,
    Appellant                   No. 280 MDA 2015
    Appeal from the Order Entered January 14, 2015
    In the Court of Common Pleas of Dauphin County
    Criminal Division at No(s):
    CP-22-CR-0003616-2013
    CP-22-CR-0005164-2011
    BEFORE: BOWES, JENKINS, AND PLATT,* JJ.
    OPINION BY BOWES, J.:                                 FILED JANUARY 22, 2016
    Gary Charles Schultz appeals from the order denying his pre-trial
    motions to preclude the introduction of testimony of Attorney Cynthia
    Baldwin1 and to quash certain criminal charges against him based on
    violations of the attorney-client privilege.2 After careful review, we reverse
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    1
    Ms. Baldwin is a former Justice of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
    Consistent with the parties and trial court below, and to avoid confusion, we
    have not referred to her as Justice Baldwin since she was not acting in a
    judicial capacity.
    2
    We have jurisdiction over this appeal pursuant to the collateral order
    doctrine codified at Pa.R.A.P. 313. We discuss our jurisdiction in more detail
    in the body of this opinion.
    *
    Retired Senior Judge assigned to the Superior Court.
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    the trial court’s order in which it found that Schultz was properly represented
    by Ms. Baldwin during his grand jury testimony as an agent of Penn State
    and that no attorney-client privilege existed. For the reasons that follow, we
    also hold that Schultz was constructively denied counsel during his grand
    jury testimony and that Ms. Baldwin was incompetent to testify as to her
    communications with him.           Accordingly, we quash the counts of perjury,
    obstruction of justice, and the conspiracy charge.
    Part I: Factual and Procedural Background
    In these actions, the Commonwealth has charged Schultz with two
    counts of endangering the welfare of a child (“EWOC”), and one count each
    of perjury, failure to report suspected child abuse, obstruction of justice, and
    conspiracy.3     The charges stem from: 1) his treatment of allegations of
    sexual misconduct against Gerald “Jerry” A. Sandusky, the former defensive
    coordinator for the Penn State football team and founder of a non-profit
    charity serving underprivileged youth, the Second Mile; and 2) his testimony
    pertaining to his handling of those matters before an investigating grand
    jury.4
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    3
    The Commonwealth filed a single conspiracy count, which included
    conspiracy to commit perjury, obstruction of justice, and endangering the
    welfare of a child.
    4
    Our recitation of the facts is based on the certified record, including the
    grand jury presentments, unsealed testimony, and the factual findings of the
    (Footnote Continued Next Page)
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    Schultz is a retired Senior Vice President for Finance and Business for
    the Pennsylvania State University (“Penn State” or “University”). As part of
    the responsibilities in that position, Schultz oversaw Penn State campus
    police. In 2009, the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General (“OAG”) began
    investigating allegations that Sandusky sexually abused children over an
    extended period.          As part of the investigation, the OAG convened a
    statewide investigating Grand Jury. During the course of the investigation,
    the OAG learned of sexual misconduct by Sandusky that occurred while he
    was on the campus of Penn State in 2001, as well as an incident involving
    inappropriate behavior with a minor in 1998.
    The grand jury investigation revealed the following regarding the 1998
    matter.   That incident involved an eleven-year-old boy.        See Thirty-Third
    Statewide Investigating Grand Jury Sandusky Presentment, 11/4/11, at 18
    (hereinafter Sandusky Presentment). Sandusky transported the victim from
    the victim’s home to Penn State. Sandusky Presentment at 18. On the way
    to the University, Sandusky placed his right hand on the boy’s thigh on
    multiple occasions.       
    Id. The pair
    lifted weights for approximately twenty
    minutes before playing a game with a tape ball and cups.           Id. Sandusky
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    (Footnote Continued)
    trial court that are supported by the record.      Insofar as Appellant’s
    testimony was not credited by the trial court, we have not relied on that
    version of events. However, where the testimony was not in dispute, we
    have considered it.
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    then wrestled with the victim, before instructing the boy to shower. 
    Id. The youngster
    attempted to shower away from Sandusky, but Sandusky
    beckoned him closer and told him that he warmed up a shower for the child.
    
    Id. at 18-19.
    Sandusky grabbed the boy from around his waist, lifting him
    into the air. 
    Id. at 19.
    He also washed the boy’s back and bear hugged the
    child from behind, before rinsing the child’s hair. 
    Id. When Sandusky
    returned the child to the boy’s home, the child’s
    mother noticed that his hair was wet and became upset when she discovered
    that he had showered with Sandusky.         
    Id. She reported
    the matter to
    University Police, who initiated an investigation.        
    Id. University Police
    conducted a wiretap on Sandusky, with the permission of the boy’s mother,
    recording two conversations. 
    Id. Sandusky admitted
    to showering naked
    with the child and at one point stated that he wished he were dead. 
    Id. at 20.
    He later told police that he hugged the child in the shower and admitted
    that it was wrong. 
    Id. No charges
    were ultimately filed.
    The grand jury investigation also revealed that in 2001, former Penn
    State assistant football coach, Michael McQueary, who had been a
    quarterback at Penn State, witnessed Sandusky commit a sexual assault
    against a minor victim in a locker room shower on the main campus of the
    University in February of 2001.      
    Id. at 6.
       McQueary, then a graduate
    assistant, reported this incident to head football coach Joe Paterno the next
    day, a Saturday. 
    Id. at 7.
    Paterno, in turn, reported the matter to Athletic
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    Director Tim Curley the following day. 
    Id. Within two
    weeks of the shower
    incident, McQueary met with Curley and Schultz.        
    Id. McQueary, who
    testified before the grand jury prior to January 12, 2011, said that he told
    the pair that he believed he saw Sandusky having anal sex with a minor boy.
    
    Id. Schultz was
    originally subpoenaed in December of 2010 to testify
    before the investigating grand jury on January 12, 2011.       At the time,
    Schultz was no longer employed by Penn State, having been retired for
    approximately a year and one-half.5 Subpoenas were also issued for Curley
    and Paterno.       Penn State general counsel, Attorney Baldwin, accepted
    service of the subpoena on Schultz’s behalf with his permission. 6      Ms.
    Baldwin also agreed, at the request of Penn State President Dr. Graham
    Spanier, to advise and be present for Schultz’s grand jury testimony. N.T.,
    10/26/12, at 14.        Ms. Baldwin met one time with Schultz prior to his
    testimony. That meeting occurred on January 5, 2011.7 Ms. Baldwin related
    to Schultz that, as a grand jury witness, he was entitled to an attorney who
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    5
    Schultz would later return on a temporary basis to his former position in
    September of 2011 until November of 2011, when he was criminally
    charged.
    6
    Ms. Baldwin was also served a subpoena duces tecum, Grand Jury
    Subpoena 1179, for University documents.           That subpoena sought
    documents referencing or related to Jerry Sandusky.
    7
    Ms. Baldwin had previously met with Curley on January 3, 2011.
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    could be present and consult with him during his testimony and that he
    could retain his own lawyer. N.T. Schultz Hearing, 11/20/14, at 10-12; see
    
    id. at 55.
    She indicated that she had spoken with Curley and Paterno and
    that no conflict existed between their recollection and Schultz’s and she felt
    comfortable appearing on behalf of both Curley and him. 
    Id. at 54.
    Paterno
    retained separate counsel.
    Ms. Baldwin did not advise Schultz regarding his Fifth Amendment
    right against self-incrimination.   Ms. Baldwin also did not explain the
    difference between her representation of Schultz in his individual capacity or
    as an agent of his former employer, Penn State.        Nonetheless, she did
    inform Schultz that any information he told her was not confidential insofar
    as she could relay it to the University Board of Trustees.    
    Id. at 54.
      Ms.
    Baldwin set forth,
    I did tell Mr. Schultz that I was Penn State’s general
    counsel. I could go in. I was going in with Mr. Curley. I was
    not going in with Mr. Paterno. Mr. Paterno got his own counsel.
    I told him that as long as there was no conflict, that I
    could go in with him.
    
    Id. Ms. Baldwin
    did not inform the Board of Trustees of Schultz’s
    statements to her.
    On the morning of his scheduled grand jury appearance, agents from
    the OAG interviewed Schultz before he testified. Present for that interview
    was Attorney Baldwin. Ms. Baldwin also attended the OAG interview of Tim
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    Curley that same day.           Following these interviews, but before Schultz
    testified, Ms. Baldwin inquired with a deputy attorney general if Schultz and
    Curley were targets of the criminal investigation.     The prosecutor, Deputy
    Attorney General Jonelle Eshbach, informed her that they were not targets
    at that time.8    
    Id. at 17
    (Schultz testified, “And while we were there, Ms.
    Eshbach came in the room and talked with Ms. Baldwin.         And I recall Ms.
    Baldwin asking her, are my clients a target of the grand jury investigation.
    And I recall Ms. Eshbach saying not at this time.”); see also 
    id. at 60
    (Ms.
    Baldwin set forth, “[Ms. Eshbach] said, no, that they weren’t targets but I
    don’t know.”).
    Prior to Schultz’s testimony, Judge Barry Feudale, the Grand Jury
    Supervising Judge, queried Ms. Baldwin regarding her representation of
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    Despite the OAG’s representation that Schultz and Curley were not
    targets, the OAG was already aware that McQueary had told investigators
    that he reported a sodomy to Schultz and Curley, and it knew that there had
    been no follow up police investigation.     Thus, at that time, the OAG
    ostensibly had a basis upon which to charge Curley and Schultz with failure
    to report suspected child abuse.       Hence, this claim was misleading.
    Moreover, Ms. Baldwin would have been aware that Curley’s and Schultz’s
    recollection of what McQueary told them was inconsistent since she was
    present for both interviews and the testimony of both individuals.
    Specifically, Schultz acknowledged that the behavior reported to him was
    sexual in nature, but Curley denied that there was any indication of sexual
    misconduct. The OAG, outside the presence of Ms. Baldwin, later explicitly
    told the grand jury supervising judge that Schultz’s and Curley’s testimony
    was not consistent. N.T., 4/13/11, at 10.
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    Schultz and Curley in chambers in their presence. Specifically, the following
    exchange occurred:
    OAG: Judge, we’re here on Notice 29. We have some witnesses
    to be sworn, Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz.
    Judge Feudale: Represented by?
    Ms. Baldwin: My name is Cynthia Baldwin, general counsel for
    Pennsylvania State University.
    Judge Feudale: Will you be providing representation for both of
    those identified witnesses?
    Ms. Baldwin: Gary is retired but was employed by the university
    and Tim is still an employee.
    Notes of Grand Jury Colloquy, 1/12/11, at 7-8.          Ms. Baldwin did not
    expressly state that she represented Schultz solely in an agency capacity,
    nor did she indicate that she did not represent him in his individual capacity.
    The OAG did not express concern on the record over a potential conflict of
    interest based on Ms. Baldwin appearing with both Schultz and Curley.
    Judge Feudale, without requesting further clarification from Ms. Baldwin,
    then advised the two men of their rights as grand jury witnesses.           In
    relevant part, he set forth:
    As witnesses before the Grand Jury, you’re entitled to
    certain rights and subject to certain duties which I am now going
    to explain to you. All of these rights and duties are equally
    important and it’s important that you fully understand each of
    them.
    First, you have the right to the advice and assistance of a
    lawyer. This means you have the right to the services of a
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    lawyer with whom you may consult concerning all matters
    pertaining to your appearance before the Grand Jury.
    You may confer with your lawyer at any time before,
    during and after your testimony. You may consult with your
    lawyer throughout your entire contact with the Grand Jury. Your
    lawyer may be present with you in the Grand Jury room during
    the time you’re actually testifying and you may confer with
    her at that time.
    You also may at any time discuss your testimony with your
    lawyer and except for cause shown before this Court, you may
    disclose your testimony to whomever you choose, if you choose.
    You also have the right to refuse to answer any question
    pending a ruling by the Court directing you to respond if you
    honestly believe there are proper legal grounds for your refusal.
    In particular, you have the right to refuse to answer any
    question which you honestly believe may tend to incriminate
    you.
    Should you refuse to answer any question, you may offer a
    reason for your refusal, but you’re not obliged to do so. If you
    answer some questions or begin to answer any particular
    question, that does not necessarily mean you must continue to
    answer your questions or even complete the answers you have
    started.
    Now, any answers you give to any question can and may
    be used against you either for the purpose of a Grand Jury
    Presentment, Grand Jury Report or a Criminal Information.
    In other words, if you’re uncertain as to whether you may
    lawfully refuse to answer any question or if any other problem
    arises during the course of your appearance before the Grand
    Jury, you may stop the questioning and appear before me, either
    alone or in this case with your counsel, and I will rule on that
    matter whatever it may be.
    
    Id. at 8-10
    (emphases added).
    Schultz then entered the courtroom with Ms. Baldwin, who was seated
    beside him during his testimony. At the outset, a deputy attorney general
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    asked Schultz, “You are accompanied today by counsel, Cynthia Baldwin, is
    that correct?” N.T., Grand Jury Proceeding, Notice No. 29, 1/12/11, at 3.
    Schultz answered, “That is correct.” 
    Id. Ms. Baldwin
    did not indicate at that
    time that she represented Schultz solely in an agency capacity due to his
    prior employment at Penn State or that she was not representing him in a
    personal capacity. The Commonwealth proceeded to question Schultz about
    the 1998 and 2001 incidents. He testified as follows.
    Schultz stated that he was present for a meeting with Paterno and
    Curley regarding the 2001 incident, 
    id. at 5,
    as well as a later meeting with
    McQueary. 
    Id. at 9.
    Schultz related that, at the meeting involving Paterno
    and Curley, Paterno told them that he had been informed by a graduate
    student of disturbing and inappropriate behavior by Sandusky in the shower.
    
    Id. Schultz maintained
      that   it   was   reported   that   Sandusky   had
    inappropriately grabbed the young boy’s genitals. 
    Id. at 10.
    Nonetheless,
    Schultz did not consider the allegations to be too serious and expressly
    denied that he had ever been told that Sandusky engaged in anal
    intercourse with the victim. 
    Id. Curley and
    Schultz did not report the matter to police. However, they
    did agree to instruct Sandusky that he was not permitted to bring children
    from the Second Mile into the football building. 
    Id. at 11.
    Nevertheless, no
    other University official, outside of then-Penn State President, Dr. Graham
    Spanier, was told of this edict. Schultz also believed that they requested the
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    county child protection agency to investigate; id.; see also 
    id. at 14,
    however, no investigation by that agency ensued. Schultz and Curley both
    reported    to   Spanier    that    an   allegation   against   Sandusky   regarding
    inappropriate behavior with a young child in the showers of the football
    building was reported by a Penn State employee. 
    Id. at 17
    . The Second
    Mile was also told of the incident, but not that Sandusky was witnessed
    committing sodomy.
    Schultz admitted that he did not attempt to learn of the identity of the
    young boy involved in the 2001 matter. 
    Id. at 14.
    In addition, he was also
    questioned about notes and documents that he possessed that involved
    Sandusky as follows:
    OAG: Do you believe that you may be in possession of any
    notes regarding the 2002 incident that you may have written
    memorializing what occurred?[9]
    Mr. Schultz: I have none of those in my possession. I believe
    that there were probably notes taken at the time. Given my
    retirement in 2009, if I even had them at them at that time,
    something that old would have probably been destroyed. I had
    quite a number of files that I considered confidential matters
    that go back years that didn’t any longer seem pertinent. I
    wouldn’t be surprised. In fact, I would guess if there were any
    notes, they were destroyed on or before 2009.
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    At the time, the Commonwealth referred to the 2001 shower crime as
    occurring in 2002.
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    Id. at 16.10
    Schultz also expressed surprise upon learning that local police
    had investigated the 1998 incident and generated a 95-page police report.
    He submitted that there was no indication that a crime occurred in 1998.
    On November 7, 2011, the Commonwealth charged Schultz with one
    count each of perjury and failure to report suspected child abuse. Schultz
    thereafter retained private counsel, and notified Ms. Baldwin, who had
    retained her own attorney, via letter that Schultz considered Ms. Baldwin to
    have been his personal attorney and that he did not waive any claim of
    attorney-client privilege.       That letter also directed Ms. Baldwin and her
    attorney to invoke the attorney-client privilege if questioned by the OAG, the
    United States Attorney General for the Middle District, and the Freeh Group,
    an entity hired by Penn State to perform an internal investigation into its
    handling of the Sandusky matters. Subsequently, on December 16, 2011,
    the Commonwealth conducted a preliminary hearing against Schultz with
    respect to the charges of perjury and failure to report. Ms. Baldwin did not
    testify.   The crimes were held for court and the Commonwealth filed a
    criminal information on January 19, 2012.
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    Notes were eventually discovered in Schultz’s Penn State office pertaining
    to Sandusky after Schultz returned to work for Penn State in his previous
    position. Schultz did not turn those documents over to the OAG.
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    Meanwhile, the OAG, in December of 2011, had expressed significant
    frustration with Ms. Baldwin’s failure to comply with its document subpoena
    request and threatened the University and ostensibly her with possible
    contempt of court “and any other appropriate measures applicable to
    obstruction against the institution and those individuals responsible for these
    decisions.”      Letter    from    OAG     to   Ms.   Baldwin,   12/19/11,   at   2.11
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    Although the University was charged with complying with Subpoena 1179
    in December 2010, it was not until April 2012 that relevant documents were
    turned over. Notably, although Ms. Baldwin informed University President,
    Dr. Graham Spanier, of the subpoena and asked if he, Schultz, and Curley
    had any documents, she apparently did not follow University protocol in
    ensuring compliance with that subpoena. A grand jury report observed that
    an “investigation into whether the University fully complied with the
    subpoena determined that no effort was made to search the Athletic
    Department, where Sandusky had been employed for over 30 years, or to
    search any of the electronically stored data at the University or emails or
    other documents[.]” Grand Jury Presentment No. 29, at 23. The Grand Jury
    further concluded,
    Penn State had in place a well-defined historical practice and
    procedure for responding to subpoenas. Subpoenas that might
    encompass electronically stored data (such as emails and
    documents stored on a computer or network drive) would
    routinely be sent to the specialized unit called the “SOS.” These
    information technology professionals were trained and dedicated
    to assembling responsive electronically stored data in response
    to litigation needs or other legal process. None of the SOS
    professionals were ever shown subpoena 1179, nor were they
    directed to seek any information requested by subpoena 1179
    before the arrests of Sandusky, Schultz, and Curley.
    
    Id. (Footnote Continued
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    Subsequently, the Commonwealth and Ms. Baldwin entered into discussions
    about her testifying before the grand jury regarding the responses of
    Schultz, Curley, and Spanier pertaining to her document requests related to
    Sandusky. See N.T., Grand Jury Conference, 10/22/12, at 2 (“the Office of
    Attorney General has been conversing with Cynthia Baldwin’s counsel and
    eventually Cynthia Baldwin in the context of a proffer discussion.”).
    On June 22, 2012, Ms. Baldwin, through her counsel, responded to
    Schultz’s invocation of the attorney-client privilege. She asserted that she
    was counsel for Penn State, that she had acted solely in an agency capacity
    in representing Schultz, and that she did not represent him in an individual
    capacity before the grand jury.           In correspondence, Schultz again invoked
    his attorney-client privilege to Judge Feudale and Ms. Baldwin, and copied
    the letter to the OAG and counsel for Penn State.
    New general counsel for Penn State, Michael Mustokoff, asked Judge
    Feudale for a conference concerning privilege concerns before Ms. Baldwin
    _______________________
    (Footnote Continued)
    Ms. Baldwin did assert in her grand jury testimony that she relied on
    the Athletic Department, the President’s office, and Vice President’s office to
    comply with the subpoena. Ms. Baldwin also informed the supervising grand
    jury judge in April of 2011 that she “had the IT people—I’ve been pushing
    the IT people and I believe that we can cull those [documents] out for you,
    that we can do all of those.” N.T., 4/13/11, at 27. However, the grand jury
    report reveals that, in addition to the SOS unit, other individuals employed
    in the Penn State information technology department maintained that they
    were not asked to locate such documents. Grand Jury Presentment No. 29,
    at 23-24.
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    testified before the grand jury on October 22, 2012. Mr. Mustokoff agreed
    that Penn State waived the privilege for itself, but explicitly declined to
    waive the University’s privilege as to communications between Ms. Baldwin
    and Schultz. Specifically, Mr. Mustokoff wrote,
    We have waived the University’s privilege as to those documents
    with two critical exceptions:
    ...
    (2) any communications between Justice Baldwin and Messrs.
    Schultz and Curley. We have previously shared our concerns
    about the Schultz/Curley communications with you and
    memorialized them in our October 2, 2012 letter to Judge
    Feudale.
    Letter from Michael Mustokoff to Chief Deputy Attorney General Frank Fina,
    10/19/12, at 1.
    In preparation for Ms. Baldwin’s grand jury appearance, Judge Feudale
    conducted a conference with counsel for Penn State, the OAG, and Ms.
    Baldwin’s attorney on October 22, 2012.           Schultz’s attorney was not
    permitted to attend. Counsel for Penn State astutely noted that it could not
    waive any privilege that Schultz might have and again declined to waive its
    privilege as to communications between Ms. Baldwin and Schultz. The OAG,
    through Attorney Frank Fina, submitted at that time that it would not
    question Ms. Baldwin about matters that could involve potential confidential
    communications between Schultz and Ms. Baldwin. Attorney Fina expressly
    set forth,
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    But at this point, Your Honor, we are willing to put Miss Baldwin
    in the grand jury without addressing any of the issues related to
    the testimony of Mr. Schultz and Mr. Curley and conversations
    she had with them about that testimony and put that—put those
    matters on hold until we get a Court determination regarding the
    privilege and we can address that later on.
    N.T., Grand Jury Conference, 10/22/12, at 6.12 Shortly thereafter, Attorney
    Fina declared, “There may well be [privilege] claims down the road by
    [counsel for Schultz and Curley], and perhaps even counsel for Graham
    Spanier; but that is, you know, the risk that the Commonwealth is ready to
    bear because we believe that we are soundly within the [University] waiver.”
    
    Id. at 11.
    Judge Feudale, relying on the representations of Attorney Fina, stated,
    I’m satisfied based on what you placed on the record that [Ms.
    Baldwin] is clearly able to proceed on testimony with the
    stipulation that you communicated that you’re not going to get
    into an inquiry as to her representation and what that meant
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    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10 precludes a prosecutor from subpoenaing an
    attorney to appear before a grand jury where the prosecutor is seeking to
    compel the attorney to provide evidence regarding a person who is or has
    been represented by the attorney. The rule reads in its entirety,
    A public prosecutor or other governmental lawyer shall not,
    without prior judicial approval, subpoena an attorney to appear
    before a grand jury or other tribunal investigating criminal
    activity in circumstances where the prosecutor or other
    governmental lawyer seeks to compel the attorney/witness to
    provide evidence concerning a person who is or has been
    represented by the attorney/witness.
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10.
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    with regard to Mr. Curley, Mr. Schultz, and perhaps, as you said,
    also Mr. Spanier.
    
    Id. at 11-12.13
    Despite the foregoing representations by Mr. Fina, a number of the
    Commonwealth’s questions to Ms. Baldwin before the grand jury precisely
    implicated potential confidential communications.14        According to Ms.
    Baldwin’s grand jury testimony, Schultz told her prior to his testimony that
    he did not have any documents relating to the 1998 and 2001 Sandusky
    matters. The Commonwealth specifically inquired of Ms. Baldwin,
    OAG: Did they [Schultz, Curley, and Spanier] ever in any way, shape,
    or form disclose to you when you were asking them for this material
    anything about 1998 or 2001 and the existence of e-mails from those
    events?
    Ms. Baldwin: Never.
    OAG: We also know that Mr. Schultz had a file regarding Jerry
    Sandusky in his office; and that in that file were documents
    related to his retirement agreement.
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    The Commonwealth did not raise any argument that Ms. Baldwin could
    testify regarding any privileged communications as a result of the crime-
    fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. See In re Investigating
    Grand Jury of Philadelphia County, 
    593 A.2d 402
    , 406-07 (Pa. 1991)
    (crime-fraud exception excludes from protection those communications
    between an attorney and client that are made for the purpose of committing
    a crime or fraud).
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    In light of Attorney Fina’s representation to Judge Feudale, and mindful of
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10, we find his subsequent questioning of Ms. Baldwin,
    absent prior judicial approval on the privilege question, to be highly
    improper.
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    There were drafts and other documents related to his
    employment and his retirement and then there were handwritten
    notes and e-mails pertaining to the 1998 crimes of Mr. Sandusky
    and the 2001 crimes of Mr. Sandusky.
    Again, same question, did he ever reveal to you the existence of
    that Sandusky file or any of its contents?
    Ms. Baldwin: Never. He told me he didn’t have anything.
    N.T., 10/26/12, at 20.       These inquiries related to compliance with the
    subpoena duces tecum and directly incriminated Schultz in the commission
    of the crime of obstruction of justice.
    Following Ms. Baldwin’s testimony, that same day, in a second
    presentment, the grand jury recommended additional charges against
    Schultz for obstruction of justice and conspiracy. The Commonwealth filed a
    second criminal complaint against Schultz on November 1, 2012, alleging
    that Schultz committed the crimes of EWOC, obstruction of justice, and
    conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit perjury,
    and conspiracy to commit EWOC. It also consolidated Schultz’s cases with
    prosecutions against Curley and Spanier.
    Preliminary hearings for Schultz, Curley, and Spanier were held on July
    29, 2013 and July 30, 2013.        Again, Ms. Baldwin did not testify.   The
    magisterial district court determined that a prima facie case existed against
    Schultz and the case proceeded to the court of common pleas. Schultz filed
    pre-trial motions to preclude Ms. Baldwin’s testimony due to a breach of the
    attorney-client privilege, to quash the second grand jury presentment, and
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    to suppress his own grand jury testimony and dismiss those charges that
    arose out of that testimony due to a lack of representation at the grand jury
    proceeding.
    The court conducted a hearing on December 17, 2013. In support of
    his pre-trial motions, Schultz sought to call Mr. Fina, Ms. Baldwin, and expert
    witnesses to testify regarding Ms. Baldwin’s deficient representation.     The
    trial court precluded those witnesses from testifying.        After receipt of
    memoranda from the parties, the court conducted additional hearings on
    November 20-21, 2014, to consider testimony regarding the scope of the
    alleged attorney-client privilege between Ms. Baldwin and Schultz, Curley,
    and Spanier. The court precluded testimony from all witnesses except Ms.
    Baldwin and the three defendants. It also prevented Schultz and his counsel
    from being present during the testimony of his co-defendants. Ms. Baldwin,
    however, was present for the testimony of all three men and testified after
    each of them testified.
    Thereafter, in an order entered on January 14, 2015, the trial court
    concluded that Schultz was not denied counsel during his grand jury
    testimony on January 12, 2011, because Ms. Baldwin represented him as an
    agent of Penn State.      It further held that Ms. Baldwin did not represent
    Schultz in an individual capacity, and that therefore her subsequent
    testimony did not violate the attorney-client privilege.
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    Schultz filed this interlocutory appeal, raising three issues for our
    review.
    I.      Whether the appropriate standard for determining if a
    witness, subpoenaed to testify before a Pennsylvania
    Grand Jury and therefore entitled to the assistance of
    counsel, is represented by counsel is the putative client’s
    reasonable belief?
    II.     Whether the agency counsel relationship contemplated by
    the trial court provide sufficient protection of the Grand
    Jury Act’s right to counsel and the right against self-
    incrimination inherent in the Act and in Article I, Section 9
    of the Pennsylvania Constitution?
    III.    Whether Ms. Baldwin’s grand jury testimony violated Mr.
    Schultz’s attorney-client privilege, requiring quashal of the
    charges that depend on her testimony and preclusion of
    such testimony in any future proceedings?
    Appellant’s brief at 4.
    We note that each of Appellant’s issues and arguments as well as the
    response by the Commonwealth are intertwined. Therefore, we will address
    Schultz’s positions together.      However, before discussing the merits of
    Schultz’s claims, we must first address our jurisdiction.
    Part II. Jurisdiction
    Ordinarily, this Court possesses jurisdiction to hear appeals from final
    orders.     In limited circumstances, however, we may consider interlocutory
    appeals. One type of interlocutory appeal is that involving a collateral order.
    Pursuant to Pa.R.A.P. 313, an “appeal may be taken as of right from a
    collateral order of an administrative agency or lower court.” Pa.R.A.P.
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    313(a). Rule 313 further defines a collateral order as an order “separable
    from and collateral to the main cause of action where the right involved is
    too important to be denied review and the question presented is such that if
    review is postponed until final judgment in the case, the claim will be
    irreparably lost.” Pa.R.A.P. 313(b).
    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court has applied the collateral order
    doctrine to permit interlocutory review in matters concerning attorney-client
    privilege under various circumstances. See In re Thirty-Third Statewide
    Investigating Grand Jury, 
    86 A.3d 204
    , 209 (Pa. 2014); Commonwealth
    v. Harris, 
    32 A.3d 243
    , 251 (Pa. 2011); Ben v. Schwartz, 
    729 A.2d 547
    (Pa. 1999).     In 
    Harris, supra
    , a case involving a PCRA appeal, our state
    High Court expressly rejected a contrary United States Supreme Court
    decision,15 stating, “we reaffirm our position in Ben that once material has
    been disclosed, any privilege is effectively destroyed. Privileges exist as a
    rule to promote frank discussions, and we respectfully disagree with the
    United States Supreme Court that disallowing immediate appeals will not
    chill such discussions.” 
    Harris, supra
    at 249.
    The first aspect of the collateral order doctrine, separability, exists
    where consideration of the order at issue “does not implicate the merits of
    the underlying dispute.” Commonwealth v. Wright, 
    78 A.3d 1070
    , 1077
    ____________________________________________
    15
    Mohawk Industries, Inc. v. Carpenter, 
    558 U.S. 100
    (2009).
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    (Pa. 2013). In the instant case, the order is separable from the main action
    because it does not require a merits analysis of the underlying criminal
    allegations. Whether Schultz is guilty of the offenses charged is independent
    of his attorney-client privilege claim. Accordingly, the separability factor is
    easily met.
    The second consideration under the collateral order paradigm is
    whether the interests involved are too important to be denied review. Here,
    the order permits the disclosure of communications between an attorney and
    an individual who asserts that he was a client for purposes of criminal
    prosecution. Protection of the attorney-client privilege, in conjunction with
    the scope of representation to be afforded an individual testifying before a
    criminal investigating grand jury, involve rights deeply rooted beyond this
    case. See Commonwealth v. Sandusky, 
    70 A.3d 886
    (Pa.Super. 2013).
    It is well-settled that the attorney-client privilege is one of the most
    sacrosanct privileges that exists. Pointedly, it is at the heart of the American
    judicial system. As our Supreme Court noted in 
    Hall, supra
    , “even where
    the privilege issue is not ‘controlling,’ or where an immediate appeal will not
    materially advance the end of the case, the frank discussions that privileges
    are meant to protect will be chilled if the opportunity for immediate
    correction by an appellate court is not available.     
    Harris, supra
    at 250.
    Here, the privilege question presented not only involves the deeply rooted
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    attorney-client privilege, but addressing the matter will materially advance
    the case. The importance criteria is thus satisfied.
    Finally, any privilege claim will be lost, the third requirement for a
    collateral   order,   if   Ms.   Baldwin   is   permitted   to   testify   regarding
    communications with Schultz. In this respect, the Harris Court opined, “A
    rule requiring parties to wait until final judgment to appeal an order
    overruling a claim of privilege would both cause the privilege-holder's fears
    to be realized and deprive the privilege-holder of any meaningful remedy.”
    
    Id. at 249.
    Accordingly, we have jurisdiction to consider Schultz’s claim that
    his communications with Ms. Baldwin were privileged, which necessarily
    encompasses the scope of Ms. Baldwin’s representation.
    To the extent that Schultz also argues that he was deprived of his
    statutory right to grand jury counsel based on Ms. Baldwin’s insistence that
    she did not represent him personally, we find that this position is inextricably
    intertwined with the question of the scope of Ms. Baldwin’s representation
    and whether an attorney-client privilege exists. We recognize that Pa.R.A.P.
    313 must be narrowly applied on an issue-by-issue basis.               See Rae v.
    Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association, 
    977 A.2d 1121
    , 1129 (Pa.
    2009). In this regard, whether a person has been constructively denied his
    or her statutory right to grand jury counsel, under the facts herein, presents
    an issue of first impression as to whether it falls within the ambit of the
    collateral order doctrine.
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    First, the question is separable from the issue of Schultz’s guilt. See
    Pa.R.A.P. 313(b); 
    Wright, supra
    . The right to personal counsel at a grand
    jury proceeding is completely independent of whether Schultz committed the
    crimes alleged.     We need not consider the underlying allegations in
    reviewing whether Appellant was entitled to personal representation during
    his grand jury testimony rather than the agency representation afforded by
    Ms. Baldwin.
    The second prerequisite to collateral order review, whether the
    interests are too important to deny consideration, is also met. The interest
    involved is the alleged denial of the right to counsel before a grand jury. In
    affording the right to counsel inside the grand jury room, our legislature
    sought to offer greater protections to individuals’ constitutional right against
    self-incrimination when appearing in the grand jury setting. Both the right
    to counsel and the constitutional right against self-incrimination are
    foundational interests. See 42 Pa.C.S. § 4549(c); Pa.Const. Art. I, § 9.
    The statutory right to counsel at a grand jury proceeding and the
    concomitant right that counsel is intended to protect, the right against self-
    incrimination, are, like the right to confrontation, of vital importance.
    See Commonwealth v. McCloskey, 
    277 A.2d 764
    , 780 (Pa. 1971) (Eagan,
    J., concurring and dissenting) (“I cannot see how an untrained layman can
    be expected to possibly discern whether or not an answer to a particular
    question will subject him to the danger of incrimination. To deny him the
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    opportunity of adequate consultation with his counsel is to render his right
    under the Fifth Amendment meaningless.”); 
    Id. (“A potential
    defendant who
    is brought before the Grand Jury without an attorney at his side is almost
    helpless. He is faced with a barrage of questions, often improper in the
    normal judicial setting, thrown at him by a group of reasonably intelligent
    citizens excited at the prospect of playing both lawyer and detective. This
    torrent of interrogation is, of course, directed by a skilled prosecutor capable
    of utilizing the Grand Jury as the tool to obtain incriminating evidence from
    the mouth of a nervous witness. The upset and confused witness does not
    know whether to respond to the questions and risk having his answers used
    against him at a trial or claim the Fifth Amendment, creating suspicion in the
    eyes of the jurors and risking a contempt charge. In this atmosphere, the
    proceeding takes on the attributes of a Star Chamber.”).
    Moreover, the second criterion is inextricably intertwined with the final
    aspect of the collateral order doctrine in this case. After all, a right without
    a remedy is meaningless. Here, if review was postponed until after trial, the
    claim would be irreparably lost both in light of the privilege issues in play
    and because there is no effective mechanism for attacking the constructive
    denial of counsel at a grand jury proceeding on direct appeal.16
    ____________________________________________
    16
    We note that Schultz filed with the trial court a motion to certify its order
    under 42 Pa.C.S. § 702(b), to allow an interlocutory appeal by permission
    (Footnote Continued Next Page)
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    In this latter respect, we point out that claims regarding pre-trial
    matters at preliminary hearings have traditionally been held to be immaterial
    after trial. See Commonwealth v. Ricker, 
    120 A.3d 349
    , 353 (Pa.Super.
    2015) (citing Commonwealth v. Sanchez, 
    82 A.3d 943
    , 984 (Pa. 2013)
    (finding that absence of counsel at preliminary hearing did not warrant relief
    after conviction); Commonwealth v. Tyler, 
    587 A.2d 326
    (Pa.Super.
    1991)).    In Ricker, this Court was faced with deciding whether an appeal
    from a denial of a pre-trial habeas corpus motion was properly before us.
    Although the case did not discuss the collateral order doctrine, we noted the
    importance     of   the     constitutional       right   being   invoked,   the   right   of
    confrontation during a preliminary hearing, and that the question of whether
    the defendant’s pre-trial rights were infringed was capable of evading review
    if we awaited a final order. We found exceptional circumstances warranted
    the exercise of jurisdiction.       See also Commonwealth v. Kilgallen, 
    108 A.2d 780
    (Pa. 1954) (exceptional circumstances warranted review of
    interlocutory appeal from denial of motion to quash grand jury presentment
    based     on   alleged      infringement         of   defendant’s   right   against   self-
    incrimination).
    _______________________
    (Footnote Continued)
    with other issues pertaining to the attorney-client relationship. The trial
    court denied that motion. Schultz, subsequent to the filing of this appeal,
    petitioned this Court for review under Pa.R.A.P. 1311, however, the Court
    denied that petition.
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    In light of 
    Sanchez, supra
    , where our Supreme Court determined
    that the lack of counsel at a preliminary hearing could not compel reversing
    a finding of guilt after trial, despite the United States Supreme Court holding
    that there is a Sixth Amendment right to counsel during a preliminary
    hearing, see Coleman v. Alabama, 
    399 U.S. 1
    (1970), failing to address
    the right to grand jury counsel could result in the claim being lost.      We
    recognize that counsel serves different purposes at a grand jury proceeding
    and a preliminary hearing.   However, the Commonwealth maintained below
    that Appellant’s claim regarding the constructive denial of counsel cannot be
    remedied during a direct appeal, and must await collateral review under the
    Post-Conviction Relief Act (“PCRA”).    This is consistent with our Supreme
    Court’s directive that claims of ineffective assistance of counsel generally
    must await PCRA review.      Commonwealth v. Grant, 
    813 A.2d 726
    (Pa.
    2002); Commonwealth v. Holmes, 
    79 A.3d 562
    (Pa.             2013).   Similarly,
    this Court has held in situations where trial counsel was present, but the
    defendant’s claim was that counsel’s representation before trial was so
    deficient as to result in a constructive denial of counsel, that such a claim
    must await post-conviction review. Commonwealth v. Britt, 
    83 A.3d 198
    ,
    201 (Pa.Super. 2013) (finding that although the defendant’s argument was
    that counsel was per se ineffective, his claim more properly fell under the
    traditional ineffectiveness paradigm and had to be deferred to PCRA
    proceedings).
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    Nevertheless, while claims of per se trial counsel ineffectiveness,
    including the constructive denial of counsel, may be remedied via a PCRA
    petition, the language of that statute applies to the truth-determining
    process for adjudications of guilt and extends to proceedings where there is
    a federal Sixth Amendment or Article I, § 9 Pennsylvania constitutional right
    to counsel. Commonwealth ex rel. Dadario v. Goldberg, 
    773 A.2d 126
    ,
    130 (Pa. 2001) (“the language ‘so undermined the truth-determining
    process that no reliable adjudication of guilt or innocence could have taken
    place" merely represents a statutory adoption of the prejudice standard for
    Sixth Amendment ineffective assistance of counsel claims . . . .Therefore, if
    a petitioner claims that he or she was denied the effective assistance of
    counsel in violation of the Sixth Amendment and Article I, Section 9 of the
    Pennsylvania Constitution, Section 9543(a)(2)(ii) of the PCRA allows the
    petitioner to seek relief.”). However, there is no Sixth Amendment right to
    counsel at an investigative grand jury hearing, In re Groban's Petition,
    
    352 U.S. 330
    , 333 (1957), nor does that hearing involve a proceeding
    essential to either a guilt or sentencing determination, or an appeal
    therefrom. See generally 42 Pa.C.S. § 9543 (defining eligibility for post-
    conviction relief).
    While there may exist a constitutional due process right to counsel at a
    grand jury proceeding, in so far as there exists a statutory right to counsel,
    a question still arises as to whether the PCRA was intended to remedy a
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    constructive denial of counsel during an investigative grand jury proceeding.
    But see Goldberg, supra at 130 (“all constitutionally-cognizable claims of
    ineffective assistance of counsel may be reviewed in a PCRA petition”);
    Commonwealth v. Masker, 
    34 A.3d 841
    (Pa.Super. 2011) (en banc)
    (Bowes, J., concurring and dissenting); but compare 
    Masker, supra
    .
    In Masker, a majority of this Court held that the statutory right to
    sexually violent predator (“SVP”) hearing counsel did not result in an
    ineffectiveness claim relative to SVP counsel that was cognizable under the
    PCRA.    There, counsel was representing the defendant during a joint
    sentencing and SVP hearing. Unlike a grand jury proceeding, sentencing is
    actually considered a critical stage of a “criminal prosecution” as that phrase
    is used in the constitutional context.   Commonwealth v. D'Amato, 
    856 A.2d 806
    , 821 (Pa. 2004). The Masker majority concluded that because the
    claim did not challenge the defendant’s guilt, the PCRA did not provide an
    avenue of relief. Similar to this matter, where there is also a statutory right
    to grand jury counsel, there existed in that case a statutory right to SVP
    counsel. Although the Masker Court premised its holding on the collateral
    consequences doctrine, i.e., sex offender registration being a collateral
    consequence of a conviction, Masker still renders it uncertain whether
    Schultz can pursue PCRA review based on inadequate representation at a
    grand jury proceeding.     This is because grand jury proceedings are not
    constitutionally considered part of a criminal prosecution and are not part of
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    the truth-determining process for ascertaining guilt, prerequisites for
    cognizability under the PCRA.
    Moreover, in the civil context, our Supreme Court in discussing the
    irreparable loss aspect of the collateral order doctrine, has opined that the
    substantial costs an appellant will incur in going to trial in complex civil
    litigation can be a factor that is to be weighed.       Pridgen v. Parker
    Hannifin Corp., 
    905 A.2d 422
    , 433 (Pa. 2006). Here, Schultz is likely to
    incur significant costs proceeding to trial and, if convicted, obloquy, and a
    substantial loss of liberty.    Collateral appeals have also been permitted
    where the right involved protects an individual from going to trial in the
    double jeopardy area and claims involving the speech and debate clause of
    the federal constitution.   Abney v. United States, 
    431 U.S. 651
    , 660-62
    (1977) (double jeopardy) Commonwealth v. Bolden, 
    472 Pa. 602
    , 
    373 A.2d 90
    (Pa. 1977) (plurality opinion) (double jeopardy); Helstoski v.
    Meanor, 
    442 U.S. 500
    , 506-08, (1979) (Speech or Debate Clause).
    Further, if convicted, based on the Commonwealth’s own position, Schultz
    will have to undergo a direct appeal, and if unsuccessful, then seek post-
    conviction relief before his statutory right to counsel claim can be
    determined. Indeed, part of the purpose of the collateral order doctrine, to
    avoid piecemeal litigation, would actually be undermined if we did not
    consider the intertwined arguments relative to counsel’s representation in
    conjunction with the attorney-client privilege issue.       For all of the
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    aforementioned reasons, we find that we have jurisdiction over the claims
    advanced in this appeal.
    Part III. Standard and Scope of Review and General Principles
    Governing Attorney-Client Privilege Questions
    An issue concerning whether a communication is protected by the
    attorney-client privilege presents a question of law.     In re Thirty-Third
    Statewide Investigating Grand Jury, supra at 215. Hence, our standard
    of review is de novo and our scope of review is plenary. 
    Id. “Although now
    embodied in statute, the attorney-client privilege is deeply rooted in the
    common law. Indeed, it is the most revered of the common law privileges.”
    Commonwealth v. Chmiel, 
    738 A.2d 406
    , 414 (Pa. 1999) (internal
    citations omitted). In a criminal matter, “counsel shall not be competent or
    permitted to testify to confidential communications made to him by his
    client, nor shall the client be compelled to disclose the same, unless in either
    case this privilege is waived upon the trial by the client.” 42 Pa.C.S. § 5916.
    This Court has opined, “Where legal advice of any kind is sought from
    a professional legal adviser in his capacity as such the communications
    relating to the purpose made in confidence by the client are at this instance
    permanently protected from disclosure by himself or by the legal adviser
    except the protection may be waived.”         In re Gartley, 
    491 A.2d 851
    ,
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    858 (Pa.Super. 1985) (quoting 8 Wigmore, Evidence §§ 2292 at 554
    (McNaughton rev. 1961)).      Almost a century ago, our Supreme Court
    posited,
    the circle of protection is not so narrow as to exclude
    communications, a professional person may deem unimportant
    to the controversy, or the briefest and lightest talk the client
    may choose to indulge with his legal adviser, provided he
    regards him as such at the moment. To found a distinction on
    such a ground, would be to measure the safety of the confiding
    party by the extent of his intelligence and knowledge, and to
    expose to betrayal these very anxieties which prompt those in
    difficulty to seek the ear of him in whom they trust, in season
    and out of season. The general rule is, that all professional
    communications are sacred.
    Alexander v. Queen, 
    253 Pa. 195
    , 203 (Pa. 1916).          More recently, our
    Supreme Court declared,
    The purposes and necessities of the relation between a client
    and his attorney require, in many cases, on the part of the
    client, the fullest and freest disclosure to the attorney of the
    client's objects, motives and acts. This disclosure is made in the
    strictest confidence, relying upon the attorney's honor and
    fidelity. To permit the attorney to reveal to others what is
    so disclosed, would be not only a gross violation of a
    sacred trust upon his part, but it would utterly destroy
    and prevent the usefulness and benefits to be derived
    from professional assistance. Based upon considerations
    of public policy, therefore, the law wisely declares that all
    confidential communications and disclosures, made by a
    client to his legal adviser for the purpose of obtaining his
    professional aid or advice, shall be strictly privileged; --
    that the attorney shall not be permitted, without the consent of
    his client, -- and much less will he be compelled -- to reveal or
    disclose    communications     made     to    him    under    such
    circumstances." 2 Mecham on Agency, 2d Ed., § 2297.
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    Commonwealth v. Maguigan, 
    511 A.2d 1327
    , 1333-1334 (Pa. 1986)
    (emphasis added). Our Supreme Court has further opined,
    Recognizing that its purpose is to create an atmosphere that will
    encourage confidence and dialogue between attorney and client,
    the privilege is founded upon a policy extrinsic to the protection
    of the fact-finding process. Estate of Kofsky, 
    487 Pa. 473
    , 
    409 A.2d 1358
    (1979). The intended beneficiary of this policy is not
    the individual client so much as the systematic administration of
    justice which depends on frank and open client-attorney
    communication. In re Search Warrant B-21778, 
    513 Pa. 429
    ,
    
    521 A.2d 422
    , 428 (1987); Estate of 
    Kofsky, supra
    .
    In re Investigating Grand Jury No. 88-00-3505, 
    593 A.2d 402
    (Pa.
    1991). In addition, “in Pennsylvania, the attorney-client privilege operates
    in a two-way fashion to protect confidential client-to-attorney or attorney-to-
    client communications made for the purpose of obtaining or providing
    professional legal advice.”   Gillard v. AIG Ins. Co., 
    15 A.3d 44
    , 59 (Pa.
    2011).
    The   attorney-client   relationship    exists   not   only   in   one-on-one
    situations between an individual and an attorney, but it can also exist in a
    corporate environment in which general counsel or legal staff is present.
    “When the client is a corporation, the privilege extends to communications
    between its attorney and agents or employees authorized to act on the
    corporation's behalf.” In re Condemnation by City of Philadelphia in
    16.2626 Acre Area, 
    981 A.2d 391
    , 396 (Pa.Cmwlth. 2009) (citing Upjohn
    Co. v. United States, 
    449 U.S. 383
    (1981)). In Upjohn, the United States
    Supreme Court analyzed the scope of the attorney-client privilege when the
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    client is a corporation. Although Upjohn itself did not involve warnings or a
    discussion    of   a    lawyer’s    explanation    regarding   the   scope   of   his
    representation, the Supreme Court observed that, under certain situations,
    information about the extent of the attorney-client relationship between a
    corporate counsel and an employee might be necessary. As a result of that
    case, “Upjohn warnings” have evolved that specifically inform a corporate
    employee that corporate counsel represents the corporation and not the
    individual, and that the corporation possesses the attorney-client privilege.
    See Grace M. Giesel, Upjohn Warnings, the Attorney-Client Privilege, and
    Principles of Lawyer Ethics: Achieving Harmony, 65 U. Miami L. Rev. 109,
    110-111 (Fall 2010).17
    ____________________________________________
    17
    In 2009, the American Bar Association, via its White Collar Crime
    Committee, issued a report entitled “UpJohn Warnings: Recommended Best
    Practices When Corporate Counsel Interacts with Corporate Employees.”
    The report set forth that, at a minimum, counsel should provide a warning
    before the interview and that the warning should be explicit and
    unambiguous. The report maintained that if an attorney knowingly obtained
    confidential information and then gave legal advice or provided legal
    services, an attorney-client relationship existed. It continued that counsel
    may also have a duty of confidentiality with a corporate employee because
    the employee could be viewed as a prospective client. In that scenario, if
    the employee reasonably believed he was seeking legal advice regarding to
    his personal interests, a duty of confidentiality could arise. A portion of the
    suggested UpJohn warning provided:
    I am a lawyer for or from Corporation A. I represent only
    Corporation A, and I do not represent you personally.
    ....
    (Footnote Continued Next Page)
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    In addition to the traditional attorney-client relationship and the
    corporate environment, the attorney-client privilege also can exist in the
    context of co-defendants and their attorney or attorneys.                When multiple
    defendants and their counsel engage in a common defense, the privilege is
    not waived by the sharing of confidential information among the parties for
    the benefit of the joint defense. See Commonwealth v. Scarfo, 
    611 A.2d 242
    (Pa.Super. 1992), superseded by statute on other ground as stated in
    Commonwealth            v.   Buck,     
    709 A.2d 892
      (Pa.   1998);   see   also
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.6(a).
    Part V. The Grand Jury in Pennsylvania and the Advent of the
    Statutory Right to Grand Jury Counsel
    Underlying Schultz’s claims is the extent and scope of Ms. Baldwin’s
    representation of him prior to and during his testimony before a criminal
    investigating grand jury. Therefore, we begin our consideration of Schultz’s
    issues with a brief discussion of the evolution of the grand jury in
    _______________________
    (Footnote Continued)
    Your communications with me are protected by the attorney-
    client privilege. But the attorney-client privilege belongs solely
    to Corporation A, not you. That means that Corporation A alone
    may elect to waive the attorney-client privilege and reveal our
    discussion to third parties. Corporation A alone may decide to
    waive the privilege and disclose this discussion to such third
    parties as federal or state agencies, at its sole discretion, and
    without notifying you.
    Upjohn Warnings: Recommended Best Practices when Corporate Counsel
    Interacts with Corporate Individuals, 2009 A.B.A. Sec. Crim. Just., at 3.
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    Pennsylvania. The grand jury is an ancient mode of procedure. Appeal of
    Hamilton, 
    180 A.2d 782
    , 790 (Pa. 1962) (Bell, C.J., dissenting).           The
    Pennsylvania Supreme Court has opined that the grand jury became
    formalized in England in 1162.             
    McCloskey, supra
    at 772 n.21.    In
    McNair’s Petition, 
    187 A. 498
    , 502 n.1 (Pa. 1936), our High Court posited
    that the origins of the English grand jury has been attributed “to the Saxon
    Kings, particularly to Ethelred in the tenth century, and others to William the
    Conqueror, or his followers, in the eleventh century.” English grand juries
    “originally decided matters in accordance with their personal knowledge or
    their knowledge of neighborhood affairs. Later, they summoned witnesses,
    investigated persons and conditions, made reports to the sovereign, and
    gradually became an indicting grand jury.” Appeal of Hamilton, supra at
    790.
    The Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776 did not contain an express
    requirement that a grand jury indictment be used to begin criminal
    proceedings;18 however, in 1790, a clause was added to the Pennsylvania
    Declaration of Rights requiring grand jury indictments to institute most
    ____________________________________________
    18
    The original Pennsylvania charter did refer to grand jury indictments.
    Specifically, in § 27 of Chapter II, the Pennsylvania Constitution read, “All
    prosecutions shall commence in the name and by the authority of the
    freemen of the commonwealth of Pennsylvania; and all indictments shall
    conclude with these words, ‘Against the peace and dignity of the same.’ The
    stile of all process hereafter in this state shall be, The commonwealth of
    Pennsylvania.”
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    criminal proceedings. Article 9, § 10 of the 1790 charter read in pertinent
    part, “That no person shall, for any indictable offence, be proceeded against
    criminally by information, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces,
    or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger, or,
    by leave of the court, for oppression and misdemeanor in office.”        James
    Wilson, an influential framer of both the federal constitution and 1790
    Pennsylvania Constitution remarked of the grand jury, “among all the plans
    and establishments which have been devised for securing the wise and
    uniform execution of the criminal laws, the institution of grand juries holds
    the most distinguished place.”            See Hurtado v. People of State of
    California, 
    110 U.S. 516
    , 555 (1884) (Harlan, J., dissenting) (quoting 3
    Wilson's Works).
    The current Pennsylvania Constitution was amended to allow for the
    frequent use of criminal informations.             Hence, the typical manner of
    instituting a criminal prosecution is no longer via a grand jury indictment.
    Nevertheless, an investigating grand jury, as compared to an indicting grand
    jury, is still an important part of Pennsylvania law.19 Historically, a witness
    before a Pennsylvania grand jury did not have the right to have an attorney
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    19
    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court recently promulgated a criminal
    procedural rule reinstituting the usage of criminal indicting grand juries in
    cases involving witness intimidation. See Pa.R.Crim.P. 556 (adopted in
    2012).
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    present during his or her grand jury testimony.       
    McCloskey, supra
    ; see
    also In re Groban’s 
    Petition, supra
    .          That changed in 1980 with the
    adoption of the Investigating Grand Jury Act. That Act reads in salient part,
    (c) Counsel for witnesses.--
    (1) A witness subpoenaed to appear and testify before an
    investigating grand jury or to produce documents, records
    or other evidence before an investigating grand jury shall
    be entitled to the assistance of counsel, including
    assistance during such time as the witness is questioned
    in the presence of the investigating grand jury. In the
    event counsel of the witness' choice is not available, he shall be
    required to obtain other counsel within a reasonable time in
    order that the work of the grand jury may proceed.
    (2) Such counsel may be retained by the witness or shall be
    appointed in the case of any person unable to procure
    sufficient funds to obtain legal representation.
    (3) Such counsel shall be allowed to be present in the
    grand jury room during the questioning of the witness
    and shall be allowed to advise the witness but shall make
    no objections or arguments or otherwise address the grand jury
    or the attorney for the Commonwealth. The supervising judge
    shall have the same power to remove such counsel from the
    grand jury room as a judge has with respect to an attorney in
    any court proceeding. Violation of this paragraph shall be
    punishable as contempt by the supervising judge.
    (4) An attorney, or attorneys who are associated in practice,
    shall not continue multiple representation of clients in a
    grand jury proceeding if the exercise of the independent
    professional judgment of an attorney on behalf of one of
    the clients will or is likely to be adversely affected by his
    representation of another client. If the supervising judge
    determines that the interest of an individual will or is likely to be
    adversely affected, he may order separate representation of
    witnesses, giving appropriate weight to the right of an individual
    to counsel of his own choosing.
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    42 Pa.C.S. § 4549(c) (emphases added).
    Thus, the Grand Jury Act provides a right to counsel during the grand
    jury proceeding itself.   The supervising judge is charged with deciding
    whether the witness’s interest will be adversely affected by an attorney
    representing multiple clients. The provision that an attorney is allowed to be
    present with his or her client during the individual’s testimony was added
    because witnesses are confronted with “important and complex legal issues.”
    H.R. 1319, 162nd Gen. Assem. Sess. 1978, at 3162 (sponsor of applicable
    amendment to Grand Jury Act opining on the addition of permitting counsel
    to attend grand jury proceeding).
    Part VI. Parties’ Arguments
    Schultz begins by pointing out that the Investigating Grand Jury Act
    guarantees a statutory right to counsel during the witness’s grand jury
    testimony. He maintains that because there is a statutory right to counsel,
    there exists a right to effective assistance of such counsel.    According to
    Schultz, “the usual obligations of effective counsel – zealous and competent
    representation, loyalty, and protection for the confidentiality of work product
    and privileged communications – define the type of counsel to which a
    witness is entitled under the Grand Jury Act.”       Appellant’s brief at 26;
    Commonwealth v. Albrecht, 
    720 A.2d 693
    , 699-700 (Pa. 1998) (rule
    based right to PCRA counsel includes right to effective assistance of
    counsel); see also 
    Masker, supra
    (Bowes, J., concurring and dissenting)
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    (statutory right to sexually violent predator hearing counsel includes right to
    effective counsel).
    Continuing, Schultz suggests that only a witness’s counsel can be
    present for his client’s testimony during a grand jury proceeding. 42 Pa.C.S.
    4549(c)(1); Pa.R.Crim.P. 231(A) (“The attorney for the Commonwealth, the
    alternate grand jurors, the witness under examination, and a stenographer
    may be present while the investigating grand jury is in session. Counsel for
    the witness under examination may be present as provided by law.”).
    Schultz submits that the Grand Jury Act “requires that the attorney give the
    individual, and not the entity that once employed him, ‘independent
    professional judgment’ and all that comes with it, including loyalty and
    confidentiality.” Appellant’s brief at 27 (citing 42 Pa.C.S. § 4549(c)(4)). He
    argues that the trial court’s ruling that Ms. Baldwin only represented Schultz
    as an agent of her real client, Penn State, creates a second-class type of
    partial representation that is not recognized under the common law or the
    Pennsylvania Rules of Professional Conduct.      Schultz avers that “[i]f Ms.
    Baldwin was not acting as counsel for Mr. Schultz in his personal capacity,
    her presence during the grand jury proceeding was in violation of the rules
    governing grand jury secrecy, prejudicing Mr. Schultz.” Appellant’s brief at
    29.
    The trial court ruled that, because Ms. Baldwin represented Schultz as
    an agent of Penn State, he was not denied counsel at the grand jury
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    proceeding. Schultz counters that this agency-counsel relationship did not
    provide sufficient protection of the Grand Jury Act’s right to counsel and of
    his   right   against   self-incrimination   inherently   protected   in    the   Act’s
    requirement for counsel.       See Pa.Const. Art. I, § 9 (“in prosecutions by
    indictment or information, . . . . he cannot be compelled to give evidence
    against himself”).      Schultz argues that the trial court’s concept of agency
    representation herein “relieves the attorney of the duty to exercise loyalty
    and    independent       judgment,    to     provide   competent      and     diligent
    representation to each client, to obtain each client’s informed consent,
    preferably in writing, before proceeding with the representation, and to
    maintain the client’s communications as confidential.”         Appellant’s brief at
    41. He adds that a person subpoenaed to testify in front of a grand jury is
    “not always aware of ‘reasonable cause to apprehend danger’ and may not
    know whether he should ‘exercise his right against self-incrimination.’” 
    Id. at 42
    (quoting 
    McCloskey, supra
    at 777).                  In this respect, Schultz
    highlights that “[n]ot only are the stakes in giving testimonial evidence
    before a grand jury high, they are also entirely personal.” Appellant’s brief at
    42.
    Schultz points out that witnesses face potential personal criminal
    liability and that a corporation, unlike an individual, has no right against self-
    incrimination. Indeed, while the corporate defendant can be criminally fined,
    only the individual agents of the corporation face the onerous criminal
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    punishment of incarceration.20          He continues that the Grand Jury Act is
    intended to protect a witness’s right against self-incrimination by affording
    that person the right to personal counsel for purposes of consultation during
    questioning.      He avers that the colloquy provided by the grand jury
    supervising judge emphasizes the personal right to an attorney. In short, he
    maintains, “[e]mployees, like Mr. Schultz, who testify in response to a grand
    jury subpoena, necessarily do so in their individual capacities, and they
    enjoy a personal privilege against self-incrimination that only they can
    choose to waive.” 
    Id. at 46.
    While    Schultz    acknowledges        that    an   attorney   may   limit   her
    representation of a client, he notes that the client must give informed
    consent. See Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.2(c).                The rules of professional conduct
    define such consent as “consent by a person to a proposed course of conduct
    after the lawyer has communicated adequate information and explanation
    about the material risks of and reasonably available alternatives to the
    proposed course of conduct.” Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.0(e). Schultz posits that
    Ms. Baldwin did not discuss her limited representation with him, nor did she
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    20
    We do note that the Commonwealth has failed to cite a single case
    where a witness testified before a grand jury in an organizational or
    representative capacity and the testimony offered was used to prosecute the
    individual in a personal capacity. In contrast, the United States Supreme
    Court has held that a witness cannot be made to testify before a grand jury
    as a representative of an organization because any testimony would be
    personal. See Curcio v. United States, 
    354 U.S. 118
    , 123-124 (1957).
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    receive informed consent from him.                Lastly, Schultz highlights that Ms.
    Baldwin did not seek a waiver from him regarding the attorney-client
    privilege and Penn State expressly informed Judge Feudale and the OAG that
    it did not waive its privilege as to communications between Ms. Baldwin and
    Schultz. Thus, Schultz contends that his communications with Ms. Baldwin
    in   advance    of     his    grand   jury    testimony   remained     confidential      and
    inadmissible and that Ms. Baldwin breached her obligation to him by
    testifying in the later grand jury proceeding.
    Schultz also distinguishes the non-precedential decisions relied on by
    the trial court:       In the Matter of Bevill, Bresler & Schulman Asset
    Mgmt. Corp., 
    805 F.2d 120
    (3d Cir. 1988), Maleski by Chronister v.
    Corporate Life Ins. Co., 
    641 A.2d 1
    (Pa.Cmwlth 1994), and United States
    v. Norris, 
    722 F. Supp. 2d 632
    (E.D. Pa. 2010). In those cases, the issues
    did not involve representation by an attorney before an investigating grand
    jury.   Schultz contends that providing subpoenaed testimony in front of a
    grand jury is not analogous to the aforementioned cases. He submits that a
    grand jury witness, even a corporate employee, is subject to individual
    criminal   liability    for   testimony      given    before   a   grand   jury   and,    in
    Pennsylvania, unlike the federal system, the witness has a statutory right to
    counsel to advise and protect the personal interests of the witness. Schultz
    sets forth that “Ms. Baldwin made no statement that defined or limited her
    role as counsel for Mr. Schultz, creating the impression that she was the
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    lawyer that Judge Feudale’s colloquy and the statute envisioned, not merely
    corporate counsel with a limited if any obligation to the witness.” Appellant’s
    brief at 34.
    In Schultz’s view, the proper standard for determining whether the
    attorney-client privilege exists is based on the client’s reasonable belief. In
    this regard, he maintains that he and Ms. Baldwin met to discuss his grand
    jury appearance, and Ms. Baldwin agreed to appear with him, but she
    neglected to properly or adequately explain the distinction between
    representing him as an individual or as an agent of Penn State.            Further,
    Judge Feudale’s colloquy focused on Schultz’s right to counsel in the context
    of personal representation and Ms. Baldwin did not place on the record any
    limitations as to her representation.
    Schultz   asserts,   with   respect     to   the   attorney-client   privilege
    implications, that “Ms. Baldwin’s personal opinion that she did not represent
    Mr. Schultz personally does not matter.” 
    Id. at 37.
    Rather, he argues that
    the attorney-client privilege exists where:
    1) The asserted holder of the privilege is or sought to become a
    client.
    2) The person to whom the communication was made is a
    member of the bar of a court, or his subordinate.
    3) The communication relates to a fact of which the attorney was
    informed by his client, without the presence of strangers, for the
    purpose of securing either an opinion of law, legal services or
    assistance in a legal matter, and not for the purpose of
    committing a crime or tort.
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    4) The privilege has been claimed and is not waived by the
    client.
    Commonwealth v. Mrozek, 
    657 A.2d 997
    , 998 (Pa.Super. 1995).
    Applying these principles, Schultz points out that Ms. Baldwin
    identified herself as counsel for Schultz before his grand jury testimony and
    did not limit or restrict her scope of representation at that time. Ms. Baldwin
    is an attorney, and she and Schultz discussed one-on-one his subpoena and
    required appearance before the grand jury.       Those discussions were for
    purposes of legal assistance and Schultz has invoked his privilege.
    The Commonwealth responds to this aspect of Appellant’s argument by
    arguing that the trial court correctly relied on Bevill.   In its view, Bevill
    addresses the scope of corporate counsel’s representation and whether that
    representation extends to an individual employed by the corporation. The
    Commonwealth concedes that the Mrozek test determines if an attorney-
    client relationship exists.   Hence, it acknowledges that Schultz and Ms.
    Baldwin had an attorney-client relationship, but maintains that Ms. Baldwin
    represented him in an agency capacity only.          Since, according to the
    Commonwealth, the question before the trial court was the scope of Ms.
    Baldwin’s representation, it submits that the trial court appropriately relied
    on Bevill and Maleski.
    The Commonwealth also rejoins that Schultz was not represented in
    his individual capacity by Ms. Baldwin and, therefore, no privilege exists. It
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    further disputes his position that Ms. Baldwin could not be present at his
    grand jury    testimony unless she represented him personally.                The
    Commonwealth continues that an attorney can represent a person appearing
    before a grand jury as a representative of an organization employing that
    individual. It cites Pa.R.Prof.Conduct. 1.13, in support. That rule provides
    in pertinent part, “A lawyer employed or retained by an organization
    represents the organization acting through its duly authorized constituents.”
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct. 1.13(a). In addition, Rule 1.13(e), sets forth, “A lawyer
    representing an organization may also represent any of its directors,
    officers, employees, members, shareholders or other constituents, subject to
    the provisions of Rule 1.7.” Rule 1.7 reads in relevant part:
    (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b), a lawyer shall not
    represent a client if the representation involves a concurrent
    conflict of interest. A concurrent conflict of interest exists if:
    (1) the representation of one client will be directly adverse to
    another client; or
    (2) there is a significant risk that the representation of one or
    more clients will be materially limited by the lawyer's
    responsibilities to another client, a former client or a third person
    or by a personal interest of the lawyer.
    (b) Notwithstanding the existence of a concurrent conflict of
    interest under paragraph (a), a lawyer may represent a client if:
    (1) the lawyer reasonably believes that the lawyer will be able to
    provide competent and diligent representation to each affected
    client;
    (2) the representation is not prohibited by law;
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    (3) the representation does not involve the assertion of a claim
    by one client against another client represented by the lawyer in
    the same litigation or other proceeding before a tribunal; and
    (4) each affected client gives informed consent.
    Pa.R.Prof. Conduct 1.7.
    In the Commonwealth’s view, however, Ms. Baldwin did not represent
    conflicting interests nor did she represent multiple clients. Instead, it posits
    that she represented Penn State solely and, based on the information
    provided by Schultz, Curley, and Spanier, the interests of Penn State and
    those individuals did not diverge.         It therefore neglects to discuss the
    requirements of informed consent.
    Part VII. Analysis
    Under the particular facts herein, we find the trial court’s reliance on
    Bevill, Maleski, and Norris to be erroneous. In Bevill, there were two
    related   proceedings:    a   Chapter    11      bankruptcy   reorganization   of   a
    corporation and the liquidation of a related corporation.         Bevill, Bresler &
    Schulman Asset Management Corporation (“AMC”) was involved in the
    bankruptcy proceeding and Bevill, Bresler & Schulman, Inc., (“BBS”) in the
    liquidation matter.   Robert Bevill and John Rooney were principals in both
    corporations.
    There, the president of AMC, Gilbert Schulman, had consulted with the
    law firm of Hellring, Lindeman, Goldstein, Siegal, & Greenberg, (“Law Firm”)
    between March 25, 1985 and April 7, 1985. Bevill and Rooney were present
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    for some of those meetings. Schulman, in the course of meeting with the
    Law Firm, explained that he was consulting them for the purpose of
    potentially representing him and Bevill personally or the two corporations.
    Ultimately, on March 31, 1985, BBS retained the Law Firm to represent it.
    During depositions, the trustee for AMC attempted to question
    Schulman regarding his communications with the Law Firm, setting forth
    that AMC waived its attorney-client privilege. Schulman’s counsel directed
    Schulman not to answer and counsel for Bevill and Rooney also instructed
    Schulman not to respond because the attorney-client privilege applied as
    part of the joint defense doctrine. Thereafter, trustees for AMC and BBS and
    the SEC, which was investigating the companies for fraud, filed motions
    directing Schulman, Bevill, and Rooney to respond to the deposition
    questions.
    The district court conducted a hearing and directed Schulman, Rooney,
    Bevill, the Law Firm, and several other principals to answer written
    interrogatories regarding the scope of the Law Firm’s representation.
    Rooney and Bevill asserted their Fifth Amendment rights. The district court
    concluded that information sought about meetings before March 31 st with
    Hellring was privileged. However, it determined that other communications
    after that date were not. The district court ordered Schulman and Hellring to
    answer the depositions from the trustees of both corporations and rejected
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    Rooney and Bevill’s assertion of a joint defense privilege. Rooney and Bevill
    contended that the order violated their individual attorney-client privilege.
    The Third Circuit Court of Appeals framed the dispute as “center[ing]
    on whether the individuals’ assertion of an attorney-client privilege can
    prevent the disclosure of corporate communications with corporate counsel
    when the corporation’s privilege has been waived.” 
    Bevill, supra
    at 124.21
    The Bevill Court held that Bevill and Rooney could not “assert their
    personal privilege over the corporation’s waiver with regard to corporate
    matters.”      
    Id. at 125
    (emphasis added).        In doing so, the Bevill Court
    noted that the district court had examined the claim of attorney-client
    privilege under the following test:
    First, they must show they approached counsel for the
    purpose of seeking legal advice. Second, they must demonstrate
    that when they approached counsel they made it clear that they
    were seeking legal advice in their individual rather than in their
    representative capacities. Third, they must demonstrate that the
    counsel saw fit to communicate with them in their individual
    capacities, knowing that a possible conflict could arise. Fourth,
    they must prove that their conversations with counsel were
    confidential. And, fifth, they must show that the substance of
    their conversations with counsel did not concern matters within
    the company or the general affairs of the company.
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    21
    Here, of course, Penn State declined to waive its own privilege as to
    communications between Schultz and Ms. Baldwin. Further, Schultz was
    consulting Ms. Baldwin about appearing before an investigative grand jury
    regarding a criminal investigation into Jerry Sandusky.
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    Bevill, supra
    at 125.22 The Third Circuit ruled that “[t]he test adopted by
    the district court does not invade the personal privilege of the officers
    because they do not have an attorney-client privilege with regard to
    communications made in their role as corporate officials.” 
    Id. It, however,
    noted that the district court did not preclude Rooney and Bevell from
    asserting a personal privilege as to communications not related to their role
    as officers of the corporation. See also footnote 20.
    The trial court herein imprecisely stated that Pennsylvania adopted the
    five-part test outlined in Bevill, citing 
    Maleski, supra
    . However, Maleski
    was a non-binding single judge decision by the Commonwealth Court.          It,
    therefore, lacks precedential value. See 210 Pa.Code § 69.414(b) (“a single
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    22
    Both the Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals and the First Circuit Court of
    Appeals have explained the fifth aspect of Bevill as follows,
    The fifth prong of In Matter of Bevill, properly interpreted, only
    precludes an officer from asserting an individual attorney client
    privilege when the communication concerns the corporation's
    rights and responsibilities. However, if the communication
    between a corporate officer and corporate counsel specifically
    focuses upon the individual officer's personal rights and
    liabilities, then the fifth prong of In Matter of Bevill can be
    satisfied even though the general subject matter of the
    conversation pertains to matters within the general affairs of the
    company.
    In re Grand Jury Subpoena, 
    274 F.3d 563
    , 572 (1st Cir. 2001) (citing
    Grand Jury Proceedings v. United States, 
    156 F.3d 1038
    , 1041 (10th
    Cir. 1998)).
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    judge opinion of [the Commonwealth] court, even if reported, shall be cited
    only for its persuasive value and not as binding precedent.”). Further, this
    Court is not bound by decisions by our sister court. See Estate of Brown,
    
    30 A.3d 1200
    , 1205 n.2 (Pa.Super. 2011). Thus, Maleski can only serve as
    persuasive authority and is not governing Pennsylvania law. 
    Id. While citing
    Maleski, the trial court did not discuss that case and
    instead focused on Norris, supra.23                In Norris, a federal grand jury
    investigating price fixing served a subpoena on Morganite. Morganite was a
    United    States    subsidiary     corporation     of   Morgan   Crucible   Company
    (“Morgan”), a British corporation. Morgan hired a law firm to respond to the
    subpoena and conduct an internal corporate investigation.              Norris was a
    corporate officer with Morgan. As part of the law firm’s investigation, and in
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    23
    Maleski involved a corporate liquidation matter of a life insurance
    company, Corporate Life. The Commonwealth Court ordered that Corporate
    Life be dissolved and liquidated. It also instructed Corporate Life to turn
    over all of its files to a special counsel for the Insurance Commissioner.
    Former counsel for Corporate Life, Berry & Martin, and two corporate officers
    contended that certain materials were privileged and protected as work
    product.
    The judge in Maleski acknowledged that corporate officers may hold a
    privilege as to communications with corporate counsel if they are seeking
    individual representation. It then cited the five-part test discussed in 
    Bevill, supra
    . The court directed further proceedings to determine if various
    communications were privileged.        It did not rule that communications
    between corporate counsel and officers of that corporation were not subject
    to the attorney-client privilege.
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    attempting to supply documents pertaining to the subpoena, Norris met with
    counsel on at least two occasions and spoke with the attorney several other
    times. Each meeting was initiated by counsel.
    The attorney also appeared with Norris during a Canadian antitrust
    interview and at an unrelated interview with the Federal Trade Commission.
    Importantly, the attorney told Norris that he represented Morgan and did not
    represent Norris in a personal capacity. Critically, counsel explicitly advised
    Norris to retain independent counsel. Norris was not called as a witness to
    testify before the grand jury and Morgan’s lawyer was not asked by Norris to
    represent him.   Further, the attorney and Norris did not discuss personal
    legal matters concerning Norris. Morgan, unlike Penn State with regards to
    communications between Ms. Baldwin and Schultz, also waived its privilege.
    The Norris Court concluded that Norris failed to establish that corporate
    counsel represented him in an individual capacity during the internal
    investigation by Morgan.
    As noted, the Commonwealth contends that Bevill controls, while
    Schultz maintains that Mrozak is the proper governing precedent.           We
    agree with Schultz that the Bevill test is inapt. As noted above, Bevill and
    Norris did not involve a corporate attorney consulting with, in this case, a
    former employee, for purposes of that person’s preparation for testimony
    before a criminal investigating grand jury and the attorney appearing and
    being present during that grand jury testimony. Bevill and Norris involved
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    federal litigation where the individual had no right to the presence of an
    attorney during grand jury testimony. Thus, in this case there are additional
    concerns regarding whether counsel adequately alerted Schultz to the
    distinction between his right to statutory individual representation and
    representing him solely as an agent of Penn State.
    The intent of our legislature in affording counsel during a grand jury
    proceeding was to protect the testifying individual’s rights, most vitally the
    possibility of incriminating himself or herself.   See 
    McCloskey, supra
    at
    144 (“Determining what is an incriminating statement is not always clear to
    a layman.”).     Hence, the right envisioned by the legislature is a personal
    right.    See Commonwealth v. Columbia Investment Corp., 
    325 A.2d 289
    (Pa. 1974) (Nix, J., dissenting) (arguing in favor of counsel’s presence
    during grand jury questioning in a pre-statutory right to grand jury counsel
    case); see also 
    McCloskey, supra
    780-781 (Eagen, J., concurring and
    dissenting) (arguing in favor of right to counsel during grand jury
    testimony). Pointedly, the presence of the attorney in the grand jury room
    would be rendered nugatory if that lawyer is not present for the purpose of
    protecting the witness against incriminating himself.
    In other contexts involving the right to counsel, Pennsylvania courts
    have insisted that any waiver of counsel be made knowingly, intelligently,
    and voluntarily.     See Commonwealth v. Grazier, 
    713 A.2d 81
    , 82 (Pa.
    1998) (“When a waiver of the right to counsel is sought at the post-
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    conviction and appellate stages, an on-the-record determination should be
    made that the waiver is a knowing, intelligent, and voluntary one.”); see
    also Pa.R.Crim.P. 121.
    Applying Mrozek, it is evident that an attorney-client relationship
    existed. Mrozek espouses a four-part inquiry to determine if an attorney-
    client relationship exists. First, the person asserting the privilege must show
    that he is or sought to become a client.           Instantly, Schultz met with Ms.
    Baldwin to discuss the subpoena served on him to testify before a criminal
    grand jury investigating Jerry Sandusky.           Schultz was no longer employed
    by Penn State when he discussed his appearance before the grand jury with
    Ms. Baldwin. The subpoena, in contrast to the subpoena duces tecum, was
    not for the University.24       It is beyond cavil that this meeting was for the
    purpose of securing legal advice. The trial court itself found that Schultz
    approached Ms. Baldwin for legal advice related to appearing before the
    grand jury investigation into Jerry Sandusky.
    The second prong of the Mrozek test is also unequivocally satisfied,
    i.e., the person to whom the communication was made is a lawyer. There is
    no dispute that Ms. Baldwin was a licensed attorney at the time she
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    Had the subpoena been served on the University, Ms. Baldwin would not
    have needed to ask permission from Schultz to accept service of the
    subpoena. Thus, the trial court’s reliance on the OAG serving Schultz via
    Ms. Baldwin rather than at his home is a non-sequitur.
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    discussed Schultz’s legal options and requirements relative to the subpoena.
    The third aspect of the Mrozek test examines whether the communication
    between the attorney and putative client/client relates to facts told the
    attorney or client, without the presence of strangers, in order to secure legal
    opinions or services in a legal matter, and not for the purpose of committing
    a crime or tort. The issues communicated and addressed were not general
    business matters relative to the operation of the University, but pertained to
    the criminal investigation into Jerry Sandusky.     Indeed, unlike the cases
    relied on by the trial court, this case did not involve discussions between
    corporate counsel and officers of the corporation for purposes of operating
    and running that business or an internal investigation into its business
    practices.
    Ms. Baldwin also communicated with Schultz and expressed her belief
    that no conflict prevented her from representing Schultz and Curley. Thus,
    ostensibly, Ms. Baldwin was aware of the potential for a conflict of interest
    between Schultz and other individuals. The communication between Schultz
    and Ms. Baldwin occurred one-on-one and she did not reveal those
    communications to the Board of Trustees of Penn State, outside of possibly
    Spanier.25 The communications concerned the rights and responsibilities of
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    25
    Ms. Baldwin expressly testified about what she disclosed to the Board of
    Trustees as follows,
    (Footnote Continued Next Page)
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    Schultz relative to appearing before a criminal investigating grand jury and
    not Penn State’s corporate rights. Finally, Schultz has claimed his privilege
    and Penn State has expressly refused to waive any privilege relative to
    communications between Ms. Baldwin and him. Thus, the last prong of the
    Mrozek test has been met.
    Moreover, Ms. Baldwin did not adequately explain to Schultz that her
    representation of him was solely as an agent of Penn State and that she did
    not represent his individual interests. Although Schultz was certainly aware
    that Ms. Baldwin was general counsel for Penn State, it is unreasonable to
    conclude that this awareness by a lay person ipso facto results in Schultz
    knowing that she represented him solely in an agency capacity.         As the
    Bevill Court itself recognized, certain communications between corporate
    counsel and an employee can be personally privileged.
    While Ms. Baldwin could have limited the scope of her representation
    during Schultz’s grand jury testimony or prior thereto, there is no support in
    the record that such a limited representation was adequately explained to
    _______________________
    (Footnote Continued)
    I gave the presentation, talking about the whole grand jury
    process, talking about what had appeared in the newspaper,
    talking about, you know, what we knew, not saying anything
    about the testimony of Curley, Schultz, or Spanier because that
    was—they could disclose—I can’t disclose their testimony and so
    I told them about all of that.
    N.T., 10/26/12, at 35.
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    Schultz or that he provided informed consent to such a representation.
    Additionally, the judge of the supervising grand jury did not colloquy Schultz
    regarding any potential issue relative to Ms. Baldwin representing Schultz in
    a non-individual capacity.26
    Ms. Baldwin’s after-the-fact justifications for her own testimony were
    not expressed on the record prior to Schultz’s testimony, nor is there
    sufficient evidence that she properly advised Schultz of the limits of her
    representation. Simply stating that she could reveal communications to the
    Penn State Board of Trustees and was general counsel to the University was
    decidedly     inadequate.          Pointedly,      Ms.   Baldwin’s   statement   that
    communications could be shared with the Board of Trustees is consistent
    with the joint attorney-client privilege concept. As Schultz notes in his reply
    brief, “The fact that Ms. Baldwin shared confidential information among co-
    clients, and correctly advised her co-clients that she would do so, does not
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    26
    Judge Feudale, in an opinion addressing motions filed by Spanier, Curley,
    and Schultz, seeking quashal of the grand jury presentments, opined in
    dicta, “In hindsight, perhaps I erred in not asking follow up question about
    the role of corporate counsel Baldwin. I regret and perhaps committed error
    in not asking any follow up questions but while I am unware of what the
    response would have been, I fail to discern how such would persuade me at
    this stage why [the] presentments should be dismissed.” Judge Feudale
    Opinion, 4/9/13, at 11. Ultimately, Judge Feudale ruled that he lacked
    jurisdiction to consider the motions in question. We agree with Judge
    Feudale, to the limited extent that he erred in neglecting to properly probe
    into the scope of Ms. Baldwin’s representation to ensure that Schultz,
    Curley, and Spanier understood whether Ms. Baldwin was acting to protect
    their interests or that of the University. See also 42 Pa.C.S. § 4549(c)(4).
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    destroy   the   privilege;    rather,   it   is   a   routine   part   of   joint   client
    representation.” Appellant’s reply brief at 11-12.
    Part VIII. Conclusion
    As our Rules of Professional Conduct illustrate, communications
    between a putative client and corporate counsel are generally privileged
    prior to counsel informing the individual of the distinction between
    representing the individual as an agent of the corporation and representing
    the person in his or her personal capacity.            See Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.2(c)
    (lawyer may limit scope of representation provided the client gives informed
    consent); Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.0(e) (defining “informed consent”); see also
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.6(a) (“A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to
    representation of a client unless the client gives informed consent, except for
    disclosures that are impliedly authorized in order to carry out representation
    and   except    as   stated    in   paragraphs        (b)   and   (c).”);    see    also
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.18(b) (“Even when no client-lawyer relationship ensues,
    a lawyer who has learned information from a prospective client shall not use
    or reveal information which may be significantly harmful to that person”).
    When corporate counsel clarifies the potential inherent conflict of
    interest in representing the corporation and an individual and explains that
    the attorney may divulge the communications between that person and the
    attorney because they do not represent the individual, the individual may
    then make a knowing, intelligent, and voluntary decision whether to
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    continue communicating with corporate counsel.          This is all the more
    essential where the purpose of the individual seeking advice relates to an
    appearance and testimony before a criminal investigating grand jury.
    Absent a privilege existing for preliminary communications, the
    putative client cannot have full and frank discussions with the attorney in
    order to determine whether it would be appropriate for that lawyer to
    represent him or her in an individual capacity. See Chmiel, supra at 422-
    423 (“The purpose of the privilege is not to further the fact-finding process,
    but to foster a confidence between attorney and client that will lead to a
    trusting and open dialogue.”); Upjohn, supra at 389 (“Its purpose is to
    encourage full and frank communication between attorneys and their
    clients.”).
    Furthermore, the attorney might be unable to make a determination
    as to whether he or she could represent that individual personally if the
    putative client believes full disclosure will not be kept confidential. See In
    re Thirty-Third Statewide Investigating Grand Jury, supra at 216-217
    (internal citations and parenthetical omitted) (“The attorney-client privilege
    is intended to foster candid communications between counsel and client, so
    that counsel may provide legal advice based upon the most complete
    information from the client. The central principle is that a client may be
    reluctant to disclose to his lawyer all facts necessary to obtain informed legal
    advice, if the communication may later be exposed to public scrutiny.”).
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    Insofar as Ms. Baldwin has repeatedly maintained that she did not
    represent Schultz’s individual interests, absent an adequate colloquy or
    other evidence reflecting acquiescence to such limited representation for
    purposes of her presence during his grand jury testimony, we find that
    Schultz’s statutory right to counsel during his grand jury testimony was
    infringed. Indeed, we agree that Ms. Baldwin’s acknowledged agency
    representation of Schultz during his grand jury testimony, without proper
    and   adequate   explanation   and    informed   consent   to   allow   limited
    representation, left Schultz constructively without personal counsel for
    purposes of his grand jury appearance. Where an attorney purports to offer
    only limited representation before and at a grand jury proceeding, we find
    that a putative client must be made expressly aware of that fact.         See
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.2 (attorney may limit scope of representation provided
    client gives informed consent); Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.0 (defining informed
    consent); see also Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.18(b) (communications between
    prospective client and attorney are privileged). We add that Ms. Baldwin did
    not provide anything akin to Upjohn warnings.
    As Schultz consulted with Ms. Baldwin for purposes of preparing for his
    grand jury testimony relative to a criminal investigation into Jerry Sandusky,
    and reasonably believed she represented him, and Ms. Baldwin neglected to
    adequately explain the distinction between personal representation and
    agency representation, and give appropriate warnings to Schultz, we
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    conclude that all the communications between Schultz and Ms. Baldwin were
    protected by the attorney-client privilege.     Consequently, Ms. Baldwin
    breached that privilege by testifying before the grand jury with respect to
    such communications.
    Having reached these determinations, we must now address the
    proper remedy. Schultz seeks quashal of the perjury, obstruction of justice,
    and related conspiracy charges, as well as preclusion of Ms. Baldwin from
    testifying in any other proceedings relative to his privileged communications
    with her.   With respect to the latter position, it is beyond cavil that an
    attorney cannot reveal privileged communications between herself and her
    client.   Ms. Baldwin was and is incompetent to testify against Schultz.
    Accordingly, we preclude Ms. Baldwin from testifying in future proceedings
    regarding privileged communications between her and Schultz, absent a
    waiver by Schultz.
    In regards to Schultz’s position that the challenged charges be
    quashed, we find 
    McCloskey, supra
    , enlightening.         In McCloskey, an
    evenly divided Superior Court had affirmed a decision to quash indictments
    and suppress evidence against a number of defendants. The Commonwealth
    appealed to our state Supreme Court. Central to this case, the court therein
    looked to “whether, or to what degree, a subpoenaed witness and potential
    defendant before an investigating grand jury is entitled to the assistance of
    counsel to aid him in asserting his right against self-incrimination[.]”
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    McCloskey, supra
    at 766. At that time, counsel was not permitted to be
    present inside the grand jury room while the witness testified.
    The    McCloskey         Court    declined    to   hold   that   a    witness     was
    constitutionally entitled to counsel being present inside the hearing room.
    Nonetheless, McCloskey held that a witness must be instructed that he or
    she may refuse to answer a question and come before the court with counsel
    to obtain a ruling regarding issues of self-incrimination.             It found that a
    number of the witnesses therein were not properly advised about their right
    against self-incrimination. The Court noted that the recommendations in the
    grand jury presentment proposing that the individuals be indicted “were
    clearly   based    in   part    on     their   incriminating    testimony    before     the
    investigating grand jury.”       
    Id. at 779.
           It then quashed the indictments
    because     the   presentment        and   indictments    were    based     in   part    on
    “constitutionally impermissible testimony[.]” Id..
    This Court, in a plurality decision, has also previously applied
    McCloskey. Commonwealth v. Cohen, 
    289 A.2d 96
    (Pa.Super. 1972)
    (plurality). In Cohen, the defendant was indicted based on an investigating
    grand jury recommendation.              He sought to quash the indictments and
    suppress his statements to the investigating grand jury. Cohen alleged that
    he was denied the right to the advice of counsel and that the supervising
    judge failed to adequately apprise him of his right against self-incrimination.
    The trial court denied those motions, but certified its order for purposes of
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    effectuating an interlocutory appeal.   The Cohen plurality determined that
    the court failed to adequately inform the defendant that “should a problem
    arise while he is being interrogated or should he be doubtful as to whether
    he can properly refuse to answer a particular question, he can come before
    the Court accompanied by counsel and obtain a ruling as to whether he
    should answer the question.” 
    Id. at 98.
    The Cohen Court ruled that the
    defendant was deprived of his constitutional rights and that the grand jury
    indictments relied on Cohen’s testimony.     Accordingly, it quashed.
    In the present case, we acknowledge that Schultz was advised
    regarding his right against self-incrimination before his own grand jury
    testimony. However, he was not aware that Ms. Baldwin was not appearing
    with him in order to protect his interests and therefore unable to provide
    advise concerning whether he should answer potentially incriminating
    questions or invoke his right against self-incrimination.   Since Schultz was
    constructively without counsel during his grand jury testimony, and he did
    not provide informed consent as to limited representation, we agree that his
    right against self-incrimination was not protected by Ms. Baldwin’s agency
    representation, and the appropriate remedy is to quash the perjury charge
    arising from the first grand jury presentment.
    With respect to the criminal counts arising from the second grand jury
    presentment, which followed Ms. Baldwin’s testimony, we find instructive
    State v. Wong, 
    97 Haw. 512
    (2002). In Wong, the Hawaii Attorney
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    General’s Office called a former tax attorney of one of the individuals
    ultimately charged in the case to testify before a grand jury.27 The state did
    not seek a court ruling regarding the scope of the attorney’s testimony
    against his former client. The attorney neglected to notify his client that he
    was going to testify and did not receive a waiver of the attorney-client
    privilege from his client. The attorney invoked the crime-fraud exception to
    the attorney-client privilege during his own testimony to explain his
    disclosures.    Relying in part on the Hawaii Rule of Evidence 104, which is
    substantially equivalent to the same numbered Pennsylvania Rule of
    Evidence,28 the Hawaii Supreme Court noted that preliminary questions
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    27
    The Hawaii prosecutors also attempted to procure testimony from
    additional lawyers; however, they raised privilege issues, and there was a
    court ruling on the extent to which they could testify. See State v. Wong,
    
    97 Haw. 512
    , 515 n.3 (2002).
    28
    At the time of Ms. Baldwin’s testimony, Pennsylvania Rule of Evidence
    104 read,
    (a)      Questions of admissibility generally.           Preliminary
    questions concerning the qualifications of a person to be a
    witness, the existence of a privilege, or the admissibility of
    evidence shall be determined by the court, subject to the
    provisions of subdivision (b). In making its determination
    it is not bound by the rules of evidence except those with
    respect to privileges.
    See former Pa.R.E. 104(a). The rule was subsequently amended after Ms.
    Baldwin testified but reflects no substantive change.
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    regarding the existence of a privilege are to be decided by the court. The
    Court continued,
    when a prosecutor seeks arguably privileged testimony, the
    prosecutor must either (1) give notice to the person who might
    claim the privilege and the person's counsel, so that the person
    or the person's attorney can seek judicial review of any claim or
    privilege or waive the privilege, or (2) give notice to the person's
    counsel and, if the person's counsel does not raise the privilege
    and seek judicial review, the prosecutor must seek the court's
    ruling on the privilege issue. In the latter instance, the
    prosecutor should proceed with the understanding that if the
    person who might claim the privilege has not been given notice
    and an opportunity to be heard on the issue of privilege,          a
    court's allowance of testimony may be overturned after the
    holder of the privilege can be heard by the court.
    Wong, supra at 521. The Wong Court highlighted that the state elicited
    the attorney’s testimony without distinguishing between matters that were
    privileged and determined that allowing the testimony was in error.         In
    quashing the indictments therein, it reasoned,
    If the illegal or improper testimony clearly appears to have
    improperly influenced the grand jurors despite the presence of
    sufficient evidence amounting to probable cause to indict the
    defendant, the defendant would be entitled to a dismissal.
    Where a defendant's substantial constitutional right to a fair and
    impartial grand jury proceeding is prejudiced, a quashing of the
    indictment emanating therefrom is an appropriate remedy.
    
    Id. at 526.
    Instantly, despite Schultz invoking his privilege, despite the Rules of
    Professional Conduct requiring a hearing on the privilege issue prior to Ms.
    Baldwin’s testimony, see Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10, despite the Rules of
    Evidence mandating that the court determine privilege questions concerning
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    a witness’s testimony before he or she testifies, see Pa.R.E. 104, and
    despite Penn State’s general counsel, Mr. Mustakoff, acknowledging the
    issue, and Deputy Attorney General Fina paying lip service to the privilege
    concerns, Judge Feudale failed to have a hearing before Ms. Baldwin
    testified.   We acknowledge that Attorney Fina misled Judge Feudale by
    claiming that the Commonwealth would not inquire into matters concerning
    Ms. Baldwin’s communications with Schultz, Curley, and Spainer.           In this
    regard, we highlight that:
    [a prosecutor] is the representative not of an ordinary party to a
    controversy, but of a sovereignty whose obligation to govern
    impartially is as compelling as its obligation to govern at all; . . .
    As such, he is in a peculiar and very definite sense the servant of
    the law, . . . He may prosecute with earnestness and vigor --
    indeed, he should do so. But, while he may strike hard blows,
    he is not at liberty to strike foul ones. It is as much his duty to
    refrain from improper methods calculated to produce a wrongful
    conviction as it is to use every legitimate means to bring about a
    just one.
    Berger v. United States, 
    295 U.S. 78
    , 88 (1935).
    Attorney Fina stated that the Commonwealth assumed the risk of
    proceeding without a clear determination regarding the privilege concerns at
    play, which is precisely the risk that has now borne fruit in the form of a
    challenge to the charges flowing in part from such foul blows.          Since the
    obstruction of justice and related conspiracy charges in this matter relied
    extensively on a presentment from an investigating grand jury privy to
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    impermissible   privileged   communications,    we   quash   the   counts   of
    obstruction of justice and the related conspiracy charge.
    The charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy are
    hereby quashed. Order reversed. Jurisdiction relinquished.
    Judgment Entered.
    Joseph D. Seletyn, Esq.
    Prothonotary
    Date: 1/22/2016
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