United States v. Santillan ( 2018 )


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  •      16-1112-cr
    United States v. Santillan
    1
    2                                         In the
    3                 United States Court of Appeals
    4                            For the Second Circuit
    5                                        ________
    6
    7                                  AUGUST TERM, 2017
    8
    9                              ARGUED: OCTOBER 11, 2017
    10                              DECIDED: AUGUST 24, 2018
    11
    12                                     No. 16-1112-cr
    13
    14                             UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
    15                                      Appellee,
    16
    17                                             v.
    18
    19                         HECTOR SANTILLAN (AKA “BANE”),
    20                               Defendant-Appellant,
    21
    22                               JUNIOR RIVERA-VASQUEZ,
    23                                     Defendant. ∗
    24                                      ________
    25
    26                  Appeal from the United States District Court
    27                      for the Southern District of New York.
    28                No. 1:13-cr-138-1 – Robert W. Sweet, District Judge.
    29                                     ________
    30
    ∗   The Clerk of Court is directed to amend the caption to conform to the above.
    2                                                                     16-1112-cr
    1   Before: WALKER, POOLER, Circuit Judges, and CRAWFORD, District
    2   Judge.∗∗
    3                               ________
    4
    5          Defendant-Appellant Hector Santillan appeals his conviction
    6   and sentence entered in the United States District Court for the
    7   Southern District of New York (Robert W. Sweet, J.) following a jury
    8   trial. Santillan was convicted of participating in a conspiracy to
    9   distribute or possess with intent to distribute heroin, oxycodone, and
    10   cocaine, and distributing and possessing with intent to distribute
    11   500 grams or more of cocaine. He was sentenced to 151 months’
    12   imprisonment.
    13          Santillan’s primary argument on appeal is that the district court
    14   erred in denying his pre-trial motion to suppress physical evidence
    15   recovered and statements made during a traffic stop and search.
    16   Specifically, Santillan argues that: (1) the traffic stop was
    17   unreasonably prolonged to the point that it became a de facto arrest
    18   for which probable cause was lacking; (2) there was no reasonable
    19   basis to frisk Santillan for weapons; (3) his statements were used
    20   against him in violation of Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
     (1966); and
    21   (4) police officers obtained consent to search a car in which he was a
    22   passenger through coercion. Santillan also argues that the
    23   government impermissibly vouched for its cooperating witness
    ∗∗Judge Geoffrey W. Crawford, of the United States District Court for the District
    of Vermont, sitting by designation.
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    1   during trial, his trial counsel was ineffective, and the district court
    2   committed procedural errors when calculating his sentence.
    3         In this opinion, we address Santillan’s challenges to the stop
    4   and search. We conclude that the police officer conducting the traffic
    5   stop had reasonable suspicion to extend the stop when Santillan and
    6   the driver appeared nervous and were unable to provide information
    7   about where they were coming from. The stop did not ripen into a de
    8   facto arrest because the police officer used reasonable methods and
    9   intrusions to confirm or dispel his suspicions. Although certain
    10   evidence was improperly seized during a frisk, the physical evidence
    11   would have inevitably been discovered and thus suppression was not
    12   warranted. While accompanying statements should have been
    13   suppressed, the error was harmless. We find no merit in each of
    14   Santillan’s other challenges to his sentence and conviction, which are
    15   resolved by a summary order issued simultaneously with this
    16   opinion. Accordingly, we AFFIRM Santillan’s conviction and
    17   sentence.
    18         Judge POOLER dissents in a separate opinion.
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    1                                 ________
    2                      KRISTY J. GREENBERG, Assistant United States
    3                      Attorney (Noah Solowiejczyk, Michael Ferrara,
    4                      Assistant United States Attorneys, on the brief), for
    5                      Geoffrey S. Berman, United States Attorney for the
    6                      Southern District of New York, New York, NY, for
    7                      Appellee.
    8
    9                      MICHELLE ANDERSON BARTH, Law Office of
    10                      Michelle Anderson Barth, Burlington, VT, for
    11                      Defendant-Appellant.
    12
    13                      Hector Santillan, Ayer, MA, pro se.
    14                                ________
    15   JOHN M. WALKER, JR., Circuit Judge:
    16         Defendant-Appellant Hector Santillan appeals his conviction
    17   and sentence entered in the United States District Court for the
    18   Southern District of New York (Robert W. Sweet, J.) following a jury
    19   trial. Santillan was convicted of participating in a conspiracy to
    20   distribute or possess with intent to distribute heroin, oxycodone, and
    21   cocaine, and distributing and possessing with intent to distribute
    22   500 grams or more of cocaine. He was sentenced to 151 months’
    23   imprisonment.
    24         Santillan’s primary argument on appeal is that the district court
    25   erred in denying his pre-trial motion to suppress physical evidence
    26   recovered and statements made during a traffic stop and search.
    27   Specifically, Santillan argues that: (1) the traffic stop was
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    1   unreasonably prolonged to the point that it became a de facto arrest
    2   for which probable cause was lacking; (2) there was no reasonable
    3   basis to frisk Santillan for weapons; (3) his statements were used
    4   against him in violation of Miranda v. Arizona, 
    384 U.S. 436
     (1966); and
    5   (4) police officers obtained consent to search a car in which he was a
    6   passenger through coercion. Santillan also argues that the
    7   government impermissibly vouched for its cooperating witness
    8   during trial, his trial counsel was ineffective, and the district court
    9   committed procedural errors when calculating his sentence.
    10         In this opinion, we address Santillan’s challenges to the stop
    11   and search. We conclude that the police officer conducting the traffic
    12   stop had reasonable suspicion to extend the stop when Santillan and
    13   the driver appeared nervous and were unable to provide information
    14   about where they were coming from. The stop did not ripen into a de
    15   facto arrest because the police officer used reasonable methods and
    16   intrusions to confirm or dispel his suspicions. Although certain
    17   evidence was improperly seized during a frisk, the physical evidence
    18   would have inevitably been discovered and thus suppression was not
    19   warranted. While accompanying statements should have been
    20   suppressed, the error was harmless. We find no merit in each of
    21   Santillan’s other challenges to his sentence and conviction, which are
    22   resolved by a summary order issued simultaneously with this
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    1   opinion. Accordingly, we AFFIRM Santillan’s conviction and
    2   sentence.
    3                                 BACKGROUND
    4            On February 12, 2013, Santillan was a passenger in a car that
    5   Junior     Rivera-Vasquez         was     driving      from     Manhattan     to
    6   Massachusetts.     Early   in     the     afternoon,     Westchester      County
    7   Department of Public Safety Officer Isai Moreira, who was patrolling
    8   in a marked car on the Hutchinson River Parkway, observed Rivera-
    9   Vasquez commit five violations of New York’s Vehicle and Traffic
    10   laws over a three-minute span: (1) tires touching the fog line; (2)
    11   speeding; (3) changing lanes without signaling; (4) a second incident
    12   of tires touching the fog line; and (5) following too closely. Officer
    13   Moreira signaled for Rivera-Vasquez to pull to the side of the
    14   highway. He testified at the suppression hearing that he planned for
    15   the vehicle stop to occur in a “safety zone,” but the car pulled over
    16   approximately 50 feet ahead of that zone. Joint Appendix (“J.A.”) 47.
    17   At that point, the shoulders of the heavily trafficked Hutchinson River
    18   Parkway were narrowed somewhat by snow that had accumulated as
    19   a result of a recent storm.
    20            Officer Moreira approached the driver’s side window and, after
    21   obtaining     Rivera-Vasquez’s          license    and    registration,    asked
    22   Rivera-Vasquez where the two men were going to and coming from.
    23   Officer     Moreira   testified    at     the     suppression    hearing    that
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    1   Rivera-Vasquez told him they were going back to Massachusetts but
    2   was “unable to provide an answer [to where they were coming from].
    3   He basically looked over to [Santillan] and said we’re coming from
    4   his aunt’s house,” but “could not give me any location specifically.”
    5   J.A. 49. Officer Moreira then asked Santillan for his identification, and
    6   Santillan provided a photocopy of a state license. Officer Moreira
    7   repeated his question about where the two men had come from.
    8   Santillan “was mentioning some type of city or town in—he
    9   eventually mentioned New Jersey.” J.A. 50–51. Officer Moreira
    10   testified that he spoke to the men in a combination of English and
    11   Spanish, and that he is fluent in both languages. Officer Moreira
    12   testified that both men “appeared very nervous, were avoiding
    13   making eye contact,” “their voice was kind of shaky and they were
    14   speaking in a low voice,” and that Rivera-Vasquez’s “hands were
    15   shaking as he [handed] over the documents.” J.A. 50. Officer Moreira
    16   returned to his patrol car to conduct license checks. Rivera-Vasquez’s
    17   license and registration were valid, and there were no outstanding
    18   warrants for either party. We note that the nervousness Officer
    19   Moreira witnessed occurred even though neither man had an
    20   outstanding warrant.
    21         It is undisputed that at this point, approximately eight minutes
    22   after initially stopping the car, Officer Moreira had the information
    23   necessary to cite Rivera-Vasquez for the traffic violations he had
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    1   observed. However, Officer Moreira continued his investigation. At
    2   Officer Moreira’s request, Rivera-Vasquez got out of the car and
    3   answered additional questions in Spanish regarding his relationship
    4   with Santillan, their trip to Santillan’s aunt’s house, and Santillan’s
    5   aunt’s name. Rivera-Vasquez did not know the name of Santillan’s
    6   aunt or the location of her home, where, he said, he and Santillan had
    7   stayed overnight. He said he did not know Santillan well. Officer
    8   Moreira performed a pat-down of Rivera-Vasquez, removed his
    9   wallet and cell phone, then asked him to sit (uncuffed) in the back of
    10   the patrol car. He told Rivera-Vasquez that he was not in trouble.
    11         Officer Moreira then asked Santillan a few questions in Spanish
    12   before asking him to get out of the car. Officer Moreira asked Santillan
    13   where he and Rivera-Vasquez were coming from and how well they
    14   knew each other. Santillan responded that he did not know Rivera-
    15   Vasquez well, that they had stayed for one or two nights at Santillan’s
    16   aunt’s house, and that his aunt lived somewhere in New Jersey,
    17   although “[h]e had difficulty pronouncing the name [of the location]
    18   and [Officer Moreira] had difficulty understanding [it].” J.A. 57.
    19   During this conversation, Officer Moreira saw that there were energy
    20   drinks and “multiple cell phones,” which he later clarified to mean
    21   more than one cell phone, in the center console. J.A. 58, 191. At this
    22   point, Officer Moreira had already removed Rivera-Vasquez’s cell
    23   phone from his pocket, and thus had reason to believe that the car
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    1   contained more cell phones than occupants. At some point, Officer
    2   Moreira noticed the passenger seat was higher than the driver’s seat.
    3   J.A. 59, 177. Officer Moreira also “observed [Santillan] to be very
    4   hesitant in exiting” the car and “observed [Santillan] kind of look
    5   down in his general area as a quick look over before he exited.” J.A.
    6   58–59.
    7            In response to further questions, Santillan indicated that he had
    8   no luggage, but had extra clothes in the car, and that he had $80 on
    9   him. Officer Moreira patted Santillan down and removed $1,000 from
    10   Santillan’s back pants pocket. When Officer Moreira asked why he
    11   had “lied” about the amount of money he had on him, Santillan
    12   replied that he thought Officer Moreira was only asking about the
    13   money in his front pockets. J.A. 61. Officer Moreira asked Santillan to
    14   sit (uncuffed) in the back of a second patrol car which had arrived
    15   during the stop. As with Rivera-Vasquez, Officer Moreira informed
    16   Santillan that he was not in trouble or under arrest.
    17            By this time, approximately 17 minutes had elapsed since
    18   Officer Moreira first initiated the traffic stop. Officer Moreira then
    19   asked for and received Rivera-Vasquez’s verbal consent to search the
    20   car. Officer Moreira and another officer searched the car for
    21   approximately 20 minutes, during which time they noticed that the
    22   seat material covering the passenger seat appeared to be different
    23   than and newer than the material on the driver’s seat. In addition, the
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    1   officers noticed that there was plastic wrapping in the space between
    2   the cushion and the backrest of the passenger seat. According to
    3   Officer Moreira’s experience, which was based in part on Drug
    4   Enforcement Administration training, the plastic wrapping was
    5   consistent with wrapping used to transport narcotics. Officer Moreira
    6   then requested a narcotics dog.
    7         At this point, approximately 37 minutes after the stop began,
    8   Officer Moreira wrote Rivera-Vasquez citations for three of the five
    9   violations of New York’s Traffic and Vehicle laws. About 67 minutes
    10   after the stop began, the “narcotics canine” arrived on the scene and
    11   indicated that the front passenger seat of the car was positive for the
    12   presence of drugs. J.A. 75. Officer Moreira pulled back the seat and
    13   found two packages of material later determined to contain cocaine.
    14         Approximately 80 minutes after the stop began, both
    15   Rivera-Vasquez and Santillan were arrested. At the police station,
    16   Rivera-Vasquez signed a written consent to search form, which
    17   Officer Moreira stated was to “reassure the consent that [he] had
    18   received on the scene.” J.A. 82. Shortly thereafter, both Rivera-
    19   Vasquez and Santillan were arraigned on a complaint charging them
    20   with drug offenses.
    21         Santillan, joined by co-defendant Rivera-Vasquez, moved to
    22   suppress all evidence found on his person and in the car, as well as
    23   his statements to Officer Moreira. He argued in relevant part that the
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    1   officers lacked probable cause or reasonable suspicion to detain him
    2   longer than eight minutes into the stop, the point at which Officer
    3   Moreira had the information needed to issue traffic citations. He also
    4   argued that the pat-down of his person was not supported by a
    5   reasonable suspicion to believe that he was armed, that his statements
    6   regarding the $1,000 should be suppressed because they were the fruit
    7   of illegally obtained evidence, and that his other pre-arrest statements
    8   should be suppressed because they were obtained through the
    9   coercive nature of a de facto arrest without Miranda warnings. The
    10   district court denied this motion and a motion to reconsider following
    11   Rodriguez v. United States, 
    135 S. Ct. 1609
     (2015), in which the Supreme
    12   Court addressed the unlawful prolongation of traffic stops.
    13         After the suppression motion was denied, Rivera-Vasquez
    14   agreed to plead guilty and to become a cooperating witness against
    15   Santillan. Rivera-Vasquez testified at Santillan’s trial regarding
    16   Santillan’s role in distributing cocaine, heroin, oxycodone, and
    17   Percocet. He testified that he had delivered oxycodone to Santillan
    18   “several times” in packages of “between 1,500 and 2,000 pills.” J.A.
    19   517–18. Rivera-Vasquez also testified that Santillan had engaged in
    20   other criminal activity, including the possession of an assault rifle
    21   while trafficking in drugs and an attempted kidnapping of a person
    22   whom Santillan and others suspected of stealing narcotics and
    23   narcotics proceeds. According to Rivera-Vasquez’s testimony,
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    1   Santillan and two other men asked the target of the attempted
    2   kidnapping to join them in a car. When the target opened the car door
    3   and saw Santillan holding an assault rifle, he fled. Rivera-Vasquez
    4   testified that he had seen Santillan with a specific assault rifle, and
    5   identified that assault rifle as the same one pictured in photographs
    6   recovered from Santillan’s phone.
    7            The jury convicted Santillan on both counts of conspiracy and
    8   possession of drugs with intent to distribute. The district court
    9   sentenced Santillan principally to 151 months’ imprisonment, at the
    10   bottom of his sentencing guidelines range of 151 to 188 months.
    11   Santillan timely appealed.
    12                                    DISCUSSION
    13            Santillan argues that we should vacate his conviction and
    14   sentence because the district court erred by denying his motion to
    15   suppress evidence seized from the vehicle and from his person and
    16   statements he made during the course of the stop. His principal
    17   contention is that the stop was unreasonably prolonged in violation
    18   of the Fourth Amendment. 1 See Rodriguez, 
    135 S. Ct. at 1612, 1616
    .
    19   Under Rodriguez, authority for a traffic-stop seizure ends when the
    20   tasks tied to the traffic infraction are—or reasonably should have
    21   been—completed, unless the officer develops reasonable suspicion of
    1   On appeal, Santillan does not challenge the basis of the traffic stop.
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    1   criminal activity sufficient to extend the stop. 
    Id.
     at 1614–15. We
    2   disagree with Santillan.
    3             First, we conclude that Officer Moreira had reasonable
    4   suspicion to extend the traffic stop. Second, we determine that Officer
    5   Moreira had reasonable suspicion to believe that Santillan was armed,
    6   and therefore had sufficient justification to frisk him. Although the
    7   $1,000 recovered during the frisk should not have been removed from
    8   Santillan’s pockets, it would have inevitably been discovered and
    9   admitting Santillan’s statements about it was harmless error. Third,
    10   Santillan was never subject to custodial arrest and Miranda warnings
    11   were not required. Fourth, Santillan’s detention never ripened into a
    12   de facto arrest, either due to the stop’s duration or to the fact that
    13   Santillan was placed in a police car, because Officer Moreira took
    14   reasonable steps under the circumstances, and therefore probable
    15   cause for Santillan’s detention was not required. Finally, Santillan
    16   cannot challenge the search of the car because he had no reasonable
    17   expectation of privacy in it.
    18        I.     Officer Moreira had Reasonable Suspicion to Prolong the
    19               Stop of Santillan and his Investigatory Tactics Were
    20               Reasonable
    21             On review of a challenged suppression order, we examine the
    22   district court’s findings of fact for clear error, reviewing de novo
    23   questions of law and mixed questions of law and fact, including the
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    1   existence of reasonable suspicion to stop or extend a stop. See United
    2   States v. Singletary, 
    798 F.3d 55
    , 59 (2d Cir. 2015). We view the totality
    3   of the circumstances through the eyes of a reasonable and cautious
    4   officer on the scene, whose insights are necessarily guided by the
    5   officer’s experience and training. 
    Id.
     at 60–62. See also United States v.
    6   Bayless, 
    201 F.3d 116
    , 133 (2d Cir. 2000) (noting that we ask “if the
    7   conduct would appear suspect to one familiar with the practices of
    8   narcotics couriers,” even if it would appear innocuous to an untrained
    9   observer) (internal quotation marks omitted).
    10         “Reasonable suspicion requires more than an inarticulate
    11   hunch.” United States v. Compton, 
    830 F.3d 55
    , 61 (2d Cir. 2016)
    12   (internal quotation marks and alteration omitted). “The suspicion
    13   must derive from specific and articulable facts which, taken together
    14   with rational inferences from those facts, provide detaining officers
    15   with a particularized and objective basis for suspecting wrongdoing.”
    16   
    Id.
     (internal quotation marks omitted). The reasonable suspicion
    17   standard is “not high” and is “less demanding than probable cause,
    18   requiring only facts sufficient to give rise to a reasonable suspicion
    19   that criminal activity may be afoot.” Singletary, 798 F.3d at 60 (internal
    20   quotation marks and citation omitted). Conduct that is as consistent
    21   with innocence as with guilt may provide the basis for reasonable
    22   suspicion where there is some indication of possible illicit activity. See
    23   United States v. Padilla, 
    548 F.3d 179
    , 187 (2d Cir. 2008). “[N]ervous,
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    1   evasive behavior is a pertinent factor in determining reasonable
    2   suspicion.” Illinois v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124 (2000).
    3          In determining whether a traffic stop has reasonably been
    4   extended into an investigatory seizure, we consider whether: (1) the
    5   officer’s action was justified at its inception; and (2) the officer
    6   diligently pursued a means of investigation that was likely to confirm
    7   or dispel his or her suspicions quickly, during which time it was
    8   necessary to detain the defendant. United States v. Foreste, 
    780 F.3d 9
       518, 526 (2d Cir. 2015).
    10         Here, Santillan does not dispute that the traffic stop, based
    11   upon driving infractions, was valid at its inception. Santillan argues,
    12   rather, that Officer Moreira lacked reasonable suspicion to prolong
    13   the stop past the eight-minute mark, when the tasks needed to issue
    14   the traffic citations were complete. We disagree. Officer Moreira had
    15   reasonable suspicion to prolong the stop taking into account the
    16   circumstances as a whole, including Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez’s
    17   nervous behavior, illustrated by their avoidance of eye contact with
    18   Officer Moreira and visibly shaking hands, coupled with their
    19   inability to provide a clear answer as to where they had come from—
    20   a fact that cannot be explained as the result of a language barrier
    21   because Officer Moreira is fluent in Spanish and spoke to the men in
    22   both English and Spanish.
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    1         We recognize that this is a close case, and that the factors
    2   establishing reasonable suspicion are not overwhelming. We
    3   conclude, however, that they were sufficient here to provide Officer
    4   Moreira, an experienced police officer trained in narcotics trafficking
    5   interdiction, with articulable and specific facts leading him to believe
    6   that the two men may have been involved in some type of criminal
    7   activity and that Officer Moreira had the authority to investigate
    8   further.
    9         Officer Moreira testified that Rivera-Vasquez and Santillan
    10   were “very nervous” despite having no outstanding warrants that
    11   could have explained their nervousness. J.A. 50. 2 Nervousness,
    12   particularly extreme nervousness, is a factor supporting reasonable
    2
    Although Judge Pooler professes shock that we would permit a negative
    inference based upon Rivera-Vasquez and Santillan being “very nervous”
    despite there being no open warrants against them, this is but one
    reasonable inference that an experienced officer could draw from the
    circumstances, as Officer Moreira did at trial. See J.A. 446. Judge Pooler
    devotes considerable attention to the factor of nervousness in her dissent,
    and we agree that there may be innocent explanations for showing some
    degree of nervousness in the presence of law enforcement officers. We
    disagree, however, that such possible innocent explanations negate
    reasonable suspicion here, where nervousness is just part of the totality of
    circumstances that Officer Moreira was permitted to consider. We assess
    reasonable suspicion from the perspective of a trained law enforcement
    officer on the scene, not from the perspective of an appellate judge. Thus,
    rather than spinning out innocent explanations for each factor piece by
    piece or substituting our view, in hindsight, for that of an experienced
    officer, our task is to consider the entire picture—as understood by the
    officer—to determine whether his suspicion had a reasonable basis.
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    1   suspicion. See United States v. Bailey, 
    743 F.3d 322
    , 334 (2d Cir. 2014);
    2   id. at 350 (Pooler, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part)
    3   (“Understandably, nervousness, odd, or furtive behavior have all
    4   been identified by the Supreme Court as . . . important factor[s] in the
    5   reasonable suspicion analysis, because such behavior in the presence
    6   of law enforcement is reasonably linked to criminal activity.”).
    7         In addition, Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez’s joint inability to
    8   readily explain where they had just come from—even though
    9   Rivera-Vasquez was driving and Santillan was purportedly related to
    10   the woman from whose house they had allegedly come—provided
    11   further basis for Officer Moreira to continue the investigation. We
    12   have long recognized that reasonable suspicion may be based, at least
    13   in part, on an implausible story, an implausible explanation of the
    14   purpose of a trip, or a story that simply does not ring true. See United
    15   States v. Reyes, 
    821 F.2d 168
    , 169–70 (2d Cir. 1987) (collecting cases).
    16   Our sister circuits are in accord. See United States v. Green, 
    897 F.3d 17
       173, 185–86 (3d Cir. 2018); United States v. Calvetti, 
    836 F.3d 654
    , 667
    18   (6th Cir. 2016); United States v. Collazo, 
    818 F.3d 247
    , 258, 260 (6th Cir.
    19   2016); United States v. Sanford, 
    806 F.3d 954
    , 956–57 (7th Cir. 2015);
    20   United States v. Simpson, 
    609 F.3d 1140
    , 1148–51 (10th Cir. 2010); United
    21   States v. Foreman, 
    369 F.3d 776
    , 784–85 (4th Cir. 2004). Further, Officer
    22   Moreira noted at the trial that the stop occurred on the Hutchinson
    23   River Parkway, a location that Officer Moreira knew to be a corridor
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    1   for drug trafficking. 3 See Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 124
    ; see also Padilla, 548
    2   F.3d at 188.
    3          Although any one of these factors, standing alone, might not
    4   support reasonable suspicion, we do not subject factors pertaining to
    5   an officer’s reasonable suspicion to such a “divide-and-conquer
    6   analysis.” United States v. Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    , 274 (2002). Rather, we
    7   view each factor as part of “the whole picture” from which an officer
    8   draws “certain common sense conclusions about human behavior,”
    9   United States v. Cortez, 
    449 U.S. 411
    , 418 (1981), even if those
    10   conclusions “might well elude an untrained person.” Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 11
       at 273 (internal quotation marks omitted). We consider and weigh
    12   these factors “not in terms of library analysis by scholars, but as
    13   understood by those versed in the field of law enforcement.” Cortez,
    14   
    449 U.S. at 418
    . Under this approach, we conclude that these factors,
    15   taken together, provided Officer Moreira with reasonable suspicion.
    16   The men’s nervousness and inability to specify where they had come
    17   from would have suggested to a reasonable officer with Officer
    18   Moreira’s experience that the men were struggling to fabricate a cover
    3
    While “[i]t is settled law that the validity of an arrest or search can be
    supported by evidence which was adduced at trial even though [it] was not
    presented at the pretrial suppression hearing,” United States v. Caniesco, 
    470 F.2d 1224
    , 1226 (2d Cir. 1972), we need not rely on Officer Moreira’s trial
    testimony here. The other factors supporting reasonable suspicion were
    sufficient.
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    1   story. We therefore hold that Officer Moreira had reasonable
    2   suspicion to prolong the traffic stop. 4
    3          We next examine whether Officer Moreira diligently pursued a
    4   means of investigation that was likely to confirm or dispel his
    5   suspicions quickly. Foreste, 780 F.3d at 526. See also United States v.
    6   Sharpe, 
    470 U.S. 675
    , 685 (1985). For the reasons that follow, we hold
    7   that Officer Moreira diligently pursued reasonable means of
    8   investigation and that Santillan was never subject to custodial
    9   interrogation or a de facto arrest.
    10          A. Officer Moreira had reasonable suspicion that Santillan
    11             was armed, the $1,000 recovered during the frisk would
    12             have     inevitably     been     discovered,     and     admitting
    13             Santillan’s statements about it was harmless error
    14          Santillan argues that the $1,000 seized from his pocket should
    15   have been suppressed because Officer Moreira lacked reasonable
    16   suspicion to subject him to a pat-down or frisk. He reasons that if
    4
    In response to our decision in United States v. Gomez, 
    877 F.3d 76
     (2d Cir.
    2017), the government suggested, for the first time in a letter submitted via
    Fed. R. App. P. 28(j), that the good-faith exception provides a further basis
    to affirm because the Supreme Court had not decided Rodriguez when
    Officer Moreira stopped Santillan. See United States v. Santillan, No. 16-1112-
    cr, Dkt. No. 93 (2d Cir. Dec. 11, 2017). We decline to consider this argument
    because the government forfeited it and proffered no reason for doing so,
    particularly after Santillan filed a reconsideration motion predicated on
    Rodriguez. See No. 16-1112-cr, Dkt. No. 95 (2d Cir. Dec. 14, 2017); J.A. 357–
    67; cf. Gomez, 877 F.3d at 94–95.
    20                                                             16-1112-cr
    1   Officer Moreira had truly been concerned for his safety, he would
    2   have frisked both Rivera-Vasquez and Santillan immediately upon
    3   asking them to get out of the car, or he would not have turned his
    4   back on Santillan as Santillan got out. We are not persuaded.
    5         For the frisk to have been lawful, Officer Moreira must have
    6   had reasonable suspicion that Santillan was armed and dangerous.
    7   See Arizona v. Johnson, 
    555 U.S. 323
    , 326–27 (2009). Officer Moreira had
    8   reasonable suspicion to believe that Santillan was armed and
    9   dangerous based on the totality of the circumstances. We have
    10   already concluded that Officer Moreira had reasonable suspicion to
    11   believe that Santillan was involved in some type of criminal activity.
    12   Further questioning heightened rather than dispelled those
    13   suspicions. In addition, Officer Moreira testified that he had observed
    14   several indicators of possible narcotics activity, specifically the
    15   differences between the seat heights and the presence of multiple cell
    16   phones.
    17         Narcotics activity and weapons often go hand in hand, see
    18   United States v. Oates, 
    560 F.2d 45
    , 62–63 (2d Cir. 1977), and the type
    19   of investigative detention at issue here is fraught with danger for the
    20   officer. See Johnson, 
    555 U.S. at
    330–31; Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 
    434 U.S. 21
       106, 110 (1977); see also Oates, 
    560 F.2d at 63
    . Officer Moreira had a
    22   sufficient basis to suspect that Santillan may have been armed and
    23   dangerous to conduct a frisk in order to ensure his own safety and the
    21                                                             16-1112-cr
    1   safety of other officers as the investigation continued. See United States
    2   v. McCargo, 
    464 F.3d 192
    , 200 (2d Cir. 2006).
    3         Santillan suggests that Officer Moreira’s decision to question
    4   Santillan before frisking him casts doubt on whether Officer Moreira
    5   had sufficient reason to conduct the frisk. We disagree. Officer
    6   Moreira questioned Santillan in order to confirm or dispel his
    7   suspicions. Only then did he subject Santillan to a more-intrusive
    8   frisk. This course of action was less intrusive, and more in line with the
    9   protection of constitutional rights, than requiring Officer Moreira to
    10   have frisked Santillan as soon as he left the car or not at all. Neither
    11   common sense nor our own precedent demand such a choice. See
    12   United States v. Diaz, 
    854 F.3d 197
    , 207 (2d Cir. 2017).
    13         Santillan next argues that Officer Moreira unlawfully seized
    14   $1,000 from his pants pocket and neither the money nor Santillan’s
    15   statements about it should have been admitted. We agree with the
    16   district court that Officer Moreira’s frisk exceeded Fourth
    17   Amendment limitations. During a pat-down or frisk for weapons and
    18   contraband, officers are only permitted to remove for further
    19   inspection objects that are immediately apparent as such. See, e.g.,
    20   Minnesota v. Dickerson, 
    508 U.S. 366
    , 375–76 (1993). The $1,000 in cash
    21   Santillan had on his person was neither weapons nor contraband, and
    22   Officer Moreira should not have removed it from Santillan’s pockets
    23   during the frisk. Nevertheless, we conclude, as did the district court,
    22                                                              16-1112-cr
    1   that the $1,000 was admissible because it would have been inevitably
    2   discovered during a search incident to arrest after the officers
    3   discovered cocaine in the car. See, e.g., Nix v. Williams, 
    467 U.S. 431
    ,
    4   443–44 (1984); United States v. Eng, 
    971 F.2d 854
    , 861–62 (2d Cir. 1992).
    5         While the $1,000 was admissible, it still was improperly taken
    6   and thus Santillan’s statements about it were not admissible. They
    7   were the fruit of the poisonous tree and should have been suppressed.
    8   See Bailey, 743 F.3d at 341.
    9         Nevertheless, where evidence obtained in violation of
    10   constitutional rights is wrongfully admitted at trial, the error can be
    11   deemed harmless where it appears “beyond a reasonable doubt” that
    12   it “did not contribute to the verdict obtained.” See Weaver v.
    13   Massachusetts, 
    137 S. Ct. 1899
    , 1907 (2017) (quoting Chapman v.
    14   California, 
    386 U.S. 18
    , 24 (1967)); United States v. Dhinsa, 
    243 F.3d 635
    ,
    15   658–64 (2d Cir. 2001). In order to assess harmlessness, we must
    16   “consider the importance of the erroneously admitted statements to
    17   the government’s proof of guilt.” Bailey, 743 F.3d at 342. A number of
    18   factors inform this analysis, chief among them the strength of the
    19   prosecution’s case absent the erroneously admitted statements. See
    20   United States v. Okatan, 
    728 F.3d 111
    , 120 (2d Cir. 2013). We also
    21   consider the materiality of the improperly admitted evidence to
    22   critical facts in the case, whether the evidence was cumulative, and
    23   the prosecutor’s conduct regarding the evidence. 
    Id.
    23                                                             16-1112-cr
    1         Although Santillan notes that the government relied on
    2   Santillan’s statements throughout his trial, we easily conclude that the
    3   statements were cumulative because of the overwhelming evidence
    4   of Santillan’s guilt and the relative insignificance of the statements
    5   pertaining to the $1,000. The government presented a strong case,
    6   consisting of the narcotics uncovered in the car, pictures from
    7   Santillan’s cellphone, the $1,000 in cash from Santillan’s person, and
    8   the corroborated testimony of Rivera-Vasquez. Santillan’s statements
    9   about the $1,000 and the prosecutor’s argument that his initial
    10   dishonesty tended to prove that he knew about the narcotics hidden
    11   in the car were not of major import in light of the totality of the
    12   evidence against Santillan. See Bailey, 743 F.3d at 344–45 (noting that
    13   where the government first has to prove exculpatory disclaimers were
    14   false, in order to urge the jury to infer consciousness of guilt, those
    15   statements cannot be deemed particularly important to the
    16   prosecution’s case); United States v. Treacy, 
    639 F.3d 32
    , 45–46 (2d Cir.
    17   2011). Thus any error in admitting the statements was harmless.
    18         B. There was no custodial interrogation or de facto arrest and
    19            Miranda warnings were not required
    20         Santillan argues that all of his statements should have been
    21   suppressed because he was subjected to a de facto arrest but was not
    22   given Miranda warnings. Thus, any evidence recovered from the car
    23   should have been suppressed as the fruit of an unlawful de facto arrest.
    24                                                             16-1112-cr
    1   We agree with the district court that Santillan was never subject to
    2   custodial interrogation or a de facto arrest and thus these arguments
    3   are without merit.
    4         We review de novo a district court’s determination as to whether
    5   a suspect was in custody for the purposes of Miranda. See United States
    6   v. Newton, 
    369 F.3d 659
    , 668 (2d Cir. 2004). We use a two-step,
    7   objective test, that asks whether: (1) a reasonable person in the
    8   defendant’s position would have understood that he or she was free
    9   to leave; and (2) there was a restraint of freedom of movement akin to
    10   that associated with a formal arrest. See United States v. Faux, 
    828 F.3d 11
       130, 135 (2d Cir. 2016). For the second step, relevant factors are
    12   whether the suspect is told that he or she is free to leave, the location
    13   and atmosphere of the interrogation, the language and tone used by
    14   the law enforcement officers, whether the subject is searched or
    15   frisked, and the length of the interrogation. Tankleff v. Senkowski, 135
    
    16 F.3d 235
    , 243–44 (2d Cir. 1998); see also Newton, 
    369 F.3d at
    672
    17   (explaining that the Tankleff factors are relevant to the second part of
    18   the Miranda custody inquiry, and clarifying the order in which the
    19   questions are asked).
    20         In considering whether Santillan would reasonably have
    21   considered himself free to leave, we note both the similarities and
    22   dissimilarities as between this stop and a typical traffic stop.
    23   Although we have already concluded that this traffic stop was
    25                                                             16-1112-cr
    1   prolonged into an investigatory stop, the location and atmosphere of
    2   the questioning resembled a traffic stop in those respects that bear on
    3   the question of whether Santillan would have been any less free to
    4   leave than he would have been during a typical traffic stop. First,
    5   Santillan was questioned in public view on the side of the road about
    6   his relationship to the driver and details about their travels. Second,
    7   Officer Moreira never handcuffed Santillan or displayed a weapon.
    8   Although Santillan was frisked and directed to wait in the police car
    9   while Officer Moreira and two more officers who arrived later
    10   continued their investigation, he was told that he was not under
    11   arrest. On the balance, this stop bore a much greater similarity to a
    12   traffic stop or Terry stop than to the type of custodial interaction that
    13   would trigger the requirement of Miranda warnings. See Berkemer v.
    14   McCarty, 
    468 U.S. 420
    , 437–39 (1984).
    15         As for the “ultimate inquiry” of whether there was a restraint
    16   of freedom of movement akin to that associated with a formal arrest,
    17   Newton, 
    369 F.3d at 670
    , we consider whether a reasonable person in
    18   Santillan’s position would have understood that his detention was
    19   not likely to be “temporary and brief” and whether a person stopped
    20   under the circumstances at issue would feel that he was “completely
    21   at the mercy of the police.” 
    Id. at 675
     (quoting Berkemer, 
    468 U.S. at
    22   437–38). See also Howes v. Fields, 
    565 U.S. 499
    , 509 (2012). In Newton, we
    23   addressed the distinctions between a Fourth Amendment and a
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    1   Miranda analysis, 369 F.3d at 669–72, concluding that Miranda’s
    2   concern is not with the reasonableness of an officer’s actions but with
    3   “the facts known to the seized suspect and whether a reasonable
    4   person would have understood that his situation was comparable to
    5   a formal arrest.” Id. at 675. Here, Santillan was questioned, frisked,
    6   and asked to sit in the back of a police car, but he was not handcuffed
    7   and was told that he was not under arrest. He could observe two
    8   police officers attempting to deal with the difficulties of interviewing
    9   two people on a snow-covered shoulder of a heavily trafficked
    10   highway following a legitimate traffic stop and could reasonably
    11   appreciate that his placement in a patrol car was for safety reasons.
    12   Under these circumstances, we conclude that a reasonable person
    13   would not have felt that he was subject to a formal arrest, and
    14   therefore that Miranda warnings were not required.
    15         Our analysis of whether a de facto arrest occurred, however,
    16   shifts from Santillan’s perspective of the seizure to Officer Moreira’s.
    17   Specifically, we ask whether Officer Moreira’s actions were
    18   reasonable under the circumstances. See id. at 673–74. To determine
    19   whether a stop is so intrusive that it becomes a de facto arrest, we look
    20   to: the amount of force used by police, the need for such force, and
    21   the extent to which the suspect’s freedom of movement was
    22   restrained. United States v. Vargas, 
    369 F.3d 98
    , 101 (2d Cir. 2004). In
    23   particular, we consider the number of officers involved, whether the
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    1   target of the stop was suspected of being armed, the duration of the
    2   stop, and the physical treatment of the suspect, including whether
    3   handcuffs were used. United States v. Perea, 
    986 F.2d 633
    , 645 (2d Cir.
    4   1993).
    5            Santillan’s arguments that the stop became a de facto arrest
    6   focus on two aspects: (1) he was placed in the back of a police car; and
    7   (2) the duration of the stop was too lengthy to be considered an
    8   investigatory stop. We disagree. The stop was not extended
    9   unreasonably and did not employ tactics more invasive than
    10   necessary under the circumstances, which included the dangers and
    11   difficulty of questioning two suspects separately on a highway
    12   shoulder narrowed by snow. See Florida v. Royer, 
    460 U.S. 491
    , 504
    13   (1983); Mimms, 434 U.S. at 111. At all times, Officer Moreira and the
    14   two officers eventually assisting him were engaged in steps to dispel
    15   or confirm their reasonable suspicions. See United States v. Tehrani, 49
    
    16 F.3d 54
    , 61 (2d Cir. 1995). Although those steps prolonged the stop,
    17   they did not do so unreasonably. See Bailey, 743 F.3d at 336.
    18            Officer Moreira’s decision to place Santillan in the back of a
    19   police car did not transform the stop into an arrest because the
    20   decision was a reasonable response to legitimate safety concerns. See
    21   Vargas, 
    369 F.3d at 102
    . Because we conclude that Officer Moreira’s
    22   actions were at all times reasonable steps to confirm or dispel his
    23   suspicions and were appropriate responses to the hazardous
    28                                                                16-1112-cr
    1   conditions presented, we have no reason to explore whether the
    2   plastic wrapping discovered in the seat cushions, together with the
    3   other evidence, would have provided sufficient probable cause to
    4   arrest Santillan earlier in the stop.
    5          C. Santillan cannot challenge the search of the car because he
    6             had no reasonable expectation of privacy in it and the
    7             district court did not clearly err in holding that
    8             Rivera-Vasquez consented to the search
    9          Finally,   Santillan     argues     that    the     evidence     from
    10   Rivera-Vasquez’s       car     should      be     suppressed          because
    11   Rivera-Vasquez’s consent to search was tainted by an unreasonably
    12   prolonged and intrusive stop and was therefore not voluntarily given.
    13   Although Santillan has standing to challenge the prolongation of the
    14   traffic stop, see Brendlin v. California, 
    551 U.S. 249
    , 251 (2007), he lacked
    15   standing to challenge the search of the car because he had no
    16   reasonable expectation of privacy in a car being driven by and
    17   registered under the name of a man he claimed not to know very well.
    18   See Rakas v. Illinois, 
    439 U.S. 128
    , 142–43, 148 (1978).
    19          “Fourth Amendment rights are personal rights that may not be
    20   asserted vicariously.” 
    Id. at 133
    . “Accordingly, a defendant’s Fourth
    21   Amendment rights are violated ‘only when the challenged conduct
    22   invade[s] his legitimate expectation of privacy rather than that of a
    23   third party.’” United States v. Haqq, 
    278 F.3d 44
    , 47 (2d Cir. 2002)
    29                                                             16-1112-cr
    1   (quoting United States v. Payner, 
    447 U.S. 727
    , 731 (1980)). A
    2   “defendant seeking suppression of evidence found without a search
    3   warrant must show that he had a reasonable expectation of privacy in
    4   the place or object searched.” United States v. Delva, 
    858 F.3d 135
    , 148
    5   (2d Cir. 2017). One need not be the owner of the property for his
    6   privacy interest to be one that the Fourth Amendment protects, so
    7   long as he has the right to exclude others from dealing with the
    8   property. Perea, 
    986 F.2d at
    639–40.
    9         Santillan had no reasonable expectation of privacy in
    10   Rivera-Vasquez’s car because he had no right to exclude others from
    11   it and he assumed the risk that its owner would grant consent for the
    12   search. See United States v. Paulino, 
    850 F.2d 93
    , 97 (2d Cir. 1988). See
    13   also United States v. Buettner-Janusch, 
    646 F.2d 759
    , 764 (2d Cir. 1981).
    14   Because Santillan did not have an objectively reasonable expectation
    15   of privacy in the area under or behind the passenger seat, he has no
    16   standing to challenge whether Rivera-Vasquez’s consent to search
    17   was voluntary. We note, however, that the district court found that it
    18   was, and we would not disturb such a finding absent a showing of
    19   clear error, which Santillan fails to make here. See United States v.
    20   Arango-Correa, 
    851 F.2d 54
    , 57 (2d Cir. 1988).
    21                                *      *     *
    22         We have considered each of Santillan’s challenges to the stop,
    23   frisk, and search and find them unavailing. We therefore affirm the
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    1   district court’s denial of Santillan’s motions to suppress evidence
    2   from the car and from his person. While the district court erred in
    3   admitting statements regarding the $1,000, the error was harmless.
    4                               CONCLUSION
    5         For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM the district court’s
    6   denial of Santillan’s motion to suppress evidence recovered from the
    7   vehicle search and search of his person and the statements he made
    8   over the course of the stop. For the reasons stated in this opinion and
    9   in the summary order issued simultaneously with this opinion that
    10   addresses Santillan’s remaining arguments, we AFFIRM the
    11   judgment of the district court in all respects.
    1   POOLER, Circuit Judge:
    2
    3         I respectfully dissent. I would hold that the officers lacked reasonable
    4   suspicion to prolong the stop beyond the time needed to issue the traffic citation,
    5   in violation of the Fourth Amendment and Rodriguez v. United States, 
    135 S. Ct. 6
       1609 (2015), and reverse the judgment of the district court.
    7         This case is a clear example of officers acting on a “mere hunch,” without
    8   reasonable suspicion. Dancy v. McGinley, 
    843 F.3d 93
    , 106 (2d Cir. 2016). The
    9   indefinite, nondescript nature of the officers’ suspicions is apparent from Officer
    10   Moreira’s testimony, which is replete with passages like, “I felt that his behavior
    11   was suspicious. It was raising my suspicion, at least. He was too nervous.
    12   Something was off…” Joint App’x at 54. As this and similar testimony
    13   demonstrates, in deciding to detain, question and search Santillan and Rivera-
    14   Vasquez, the officers relied principally on their perception that the men were
    15   “too nervous” and “off.” Joint App’x at 50, 54, 59. Such subjective and slippery
    16   descriptions simply are not the type of “specific and articulable facts” we require
    17   to support reasonable suspicion. United States v. Singletary, 
    798 F.3d 55
    , 59 (2d
    18   Cir. 2015). Beyond nervousness, the sole additional factor given for prolonging
    19   the stop was an unsatisfactory response from the men regarding their point of
    1
    1   origin. But nearly every stop will produce some answer that could be as vaguely
    2   unavailing in the mind of the officer as the answers given here. Accordingly, by
    3   condoning the officers’ handling of this incident, I fear the majority may winnow
    4   the protections of the Fourth Amendment to a near nullity whenever an officer
    5   deems an individual simply “too nervous.” Joint App’x at 54.
    6         I.      No Reasonable Suspicion to Prolong Traffic Stop
    7         In Rodriguez, the Supreme Court clarified that, when an officer conducts a
    8   traffic stop, “[a]uthority for the seizure … ends when tasks tied to the traffic
    9   infraction are—or reasonably should have been—completed.” 
    135 S. Ct. at 1614
    ;
    10   see also United States v. Gomez, 
    877 F.3d 76
    , 89-90 (2d Cir. 2017) (holding that
    11   Rodriguez abrogates prior Circuit rule regarding duration of traffic stops). As a
    12   result, “unrelated inquiries that prolong or add time to a traffic stop violate the
    13   Fourth Amendment absent reasonable suspicion of a separate crime.” Gomez, 877
    14   F.3d at 90.
    15         Here, Officer Moreira testified that he had obtained all the information he
    16   needed to issue the traffic citation eight minutes into the stop. Thus, to comport
    17   with the Fourth Amendment, the prolongation of the stop after this point must
    18   be justified by reasonable suspicion of an independent crime.
    2
    1          As the majority explains, the basis for reasonable suspicion to extend the
    2   stop past the eight-minute mark effectively amounts to (i) nervousness, and
    3   (ii) an unsatisfactory description of the pair’s point of origin. Op. at 15. With
    4   regard to nervousness, on direct, Office Moreira gave the following descriptions
    5   of Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez’s behavior throughout the stop:
    6       • “They appeared very nervous, were avoiding making eye contact. I
    7         noticed that their voice was kind of shaky and they were speaking in a low
    8         voice, and Mr. Vasquez’s hands were shaking as he was handing me over
    9         the documents.” Joint App’x at 50.
    10
    11       • With regard to Rivera-Vasquez: “I felt that his behavior was suspicious. It
    12         was raising my suspicion, at least. He was too nervous. Something was
    13         off…” Joint App’x at 54.
    14
    15       • With regard to Santillan: “[I noticed] his nervous behavior, the fact that he
    16         looked over the area. It was a totality of the situation. He looked over the
    17         area where he was sitting. His nervous behavior. … His vague answers,
    18         his hesitance to exit the vehicle, his shakiness in the voice, and his nervous
    19         behavior was just a little off.” Joint App’x at 59. 1
    1 I note that these last two answers were given in response to questions about
    why Officer Moreira felt he needed to frisk Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez. The
    frisks occurred after the eight-minute mark, and Officer Moreira cited nothing
    more as justification. I find this testimony pertinent to the analysis of whether
    reasonable suspicion existed prior to the eight-minute mark because it tracks the
    behavioral descriptions Officer Moreira gave about the pair both before and after
    the eight-minute mark: namely, that he found them to be too nervous. At no
    point did Officer Moreira testify that the men exhibited more extreme behavior.
    Further, on the separate question of whether the frisks were warranted, in my
    view, these answers are surely insufficient to establish that Officer Moreira
    reasonably believed that the pair were “armed and dangerous,” Arizona v.
    Johnson, 
    555 U.S. 323
    , 
    129 S.Ct. 781
    , 784 (2009), as needed to justify the frisks.
    3
    1   Officer Moreira also testified that the pair gave answers that he considered
    2   inordinately vague about their point of origin. Both Rivera-Vasquez and
    3   Santillan said they were coming from Santillan’s aunt’s house. Rivera-Vasquez
    4   did not identify a geographical location; Santillan said that the aunt’s house was
    5   in New Jersey, and tried to further name “some type of city or town,” which
    6   Officer Moreira did not understand. Joint App’x at 50-51.
    7         In my view, looking to the totality of the circumstances, these grounds do
    8   not provide a basis for anything more than “an inchoate and unparticularized
    9   suspicion or hunch,” and are insufficient to satisfy the Fourth Amendment.
    10   Illinois v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124 (2000) (quotation marks omitted). Though we
    11   do not demand much to satisfy the reasonable suspicion standard, I disagree
    12   with my colleagues that this case falls just over the line into permissible territory.
    13         First, there are myriad reasons to be wary when, as here, an officer appeals
    14   repeatedly to his assessment that “something was off.” Joint App’x at 54; see also
    15   Joint App’x at 59. It is the very definition of an “inarticulate hunch[].” Terry v.
    
    16 Ohio, 392
     U.S. 1, 22 (1968). The protections of the Fourth Amendment depend on
    17   requiring something more than a faint statement of intuition. As the Supreme
    18   Court has routinely emphasized, “[i]f subjective good faith alone were the test,
    4
    1   the protections of the Fourth Amendment would evaporate, and the people
    2   would be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, only in the
    3   discretion of the police.” 
    Id.
     (quotation marks omitted).
    4         Beyond the assertions that “something was off,” Officer Moreira testified
    5   that Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez were “very nervous,” “too nervous,” and
    6   exhibited “nervous behavior.” Joint App’x at 50, 54, 59. A pronounced nervous
    7   reaction is, of course, a “pertinent factor in determining reasonable suspicion.”
    8   Illinois v. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. 119
    , 124 (2000). Depending on the severity or
    9   character of the nervousness, and the combination of other factors present, it may
    10   well contribute to a finding of reasonable suspicion. Our inquiry is based on a
    11   “totality of the circumstances principle,” United States v. Singletary, 
    798 F.3d 55
    ,
    12   60 (2d Cir. 2015) (quotation marks omitted), and thus we must look to all
    13   pertinent indicia of legal wrongdoing—including, naturally, the individual’s
    14   actions. See, e.g., United States v. Arvizu, 
    534 U.S. 266
    , 276-77 (2002). For example,
    15   flight from the police, viewed in conjunction with other factors, may provide
    16   sufficient grounds to investigate. See Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 124-25
    .
    17         But reports of generalized nervousness, like Officer Moreira gave here, do
    18   not independently contribute much towards establishing a “particularized and
    5
    1   objective basis” for a stop. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 128
    . Though less problematic
    2   than a statement that “something was off,” an officer’s report of nervousness is
    3   similarly subjective, indefinite, and too easily conflated with intuition. “Whether
    4   you stand still or move, drive above, below, or at the speed limit, you will be
    5   described by the police as acting suspiciously should they wish to stop or arrest
    6   you. Such subjective, promiscuous appeals to an ineffable intuition should not be
    7   credited.” United States v. Broomfield, 
    417 F.3d 654
    , 655 (7th Cir. 2005) (Posner, J.).
    8   We must be particularly skeptical where, as here, the reported nervousness is not
    9   evidenced by some more extreme behavior—such as flight from the police—but
    10   only by more generalized observations.
    11         Further, we should not blind ourselves to the reality that an individual’s
    12   race and ethnicity often will affect assessments of that individual’s behavior. See
    13   United States v. Hussain, 
    835 F.3d 307
    , 314–15 (2d Cir. 2016) (“Part of our trouble is
    14   that stops fitting the same fact pattern (but, say, different passengers of another
    15   race, gender, or ethnicity) would, we think, rarely if ever lead the police to
    16   suspect the passengers posed an immediate danger.”). Murky descriptors like
    17   “nervous” may well implicate biases—which are often implicit and unknown to
    18   the officer—that code one individual’s behavior as more suspicious only because
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    1   of the color of her skin. See Al Baker, Confronting Implicit Bias in the New York
    2   Police Department, N.Y.Times, July 15, 2018 (discussing NYPD’s recent efforts to
    3   address implicit bias among officers). “[S]pecificity in articulating the basis for a
    4   stop is necessary in part because according the police unfettered discretion to
    5   stop and frisk could lead to harassment of minority groups and severely
    6   exacerbate police-community tensions.” Dancy, 843 F.3d at 111 (quotation marks
    7   omitted). Relying on an officer’s report of generalized nervousness is simply too
    8   imprecise to meet this goal.
    9         To the degree that Officer Moreira testified to objective indicia of
    10   nervousness—shaky hands, and a “kind of shaky” voice, Joint App’x at 50—
    11   these reactions are quite mundane. Nearly everyone is nervous enough to exhibit
    12   some type of reaction when stopped by the police. Unlike a sudden flight from
    13   law enforcement, Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 124-25
    , these common indications of
    14   nervousness are a normal, routine response to being stopped. We have
    15   recognized that many individuals understandably find police contact “stressful
    16   and prefer to avoid interactions with law enforcement when possible.” United
    17   States v. Compton, 
    830 F.3d 55
    , 62-63 (2d Cir. 2016) (Walker, J.). In the context of a
    18   traffic stop, the knowledge that an officer may soon issue a ticket, or may take
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    1   further action, is unnerving under the best of circumstances. Thus, using
    2   “commonsense judgments and inferences about human behavior,” these
    3   common indications of nervousness are of comparatively little value in finding
    4   reasonable suspicion. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 125
    .
    5         Troublingly, in an effort to vindicate the actions of the officers, my
    6   colleagues come perilously close to claiming that only guilty people—or those
    7   with an open warrant for arrest—should experience nervousness when stopped
    8   by police. They write that Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez were “’very nervous’
    9   despite having no outstanding warrants that could have explained their
    10   nervousness.” Op. at 16. This is shocking: an open warrant is hardly the only
    11   reason an individual might feel nervous. For most of us, the stop alone suffices to
    12   upend any feeling of calm.
    13         Further, it is worth noting that a review of the dashboard footage, which
    14   was introduced at the suppression hearing, casts some doubt on the objective
    15   presence of visible nervousness. When both Rivera-Vasquez and Santillan were
    16   asked to step out of the vehicle (after the eight-minute mark), the ensuing
    17   interactions took place in full view of Officer Moreira’s dashboard camera
    18   (though only very limited audio is captured). I would expect any nervousness to
    8
    1   be on full display at this point, after Officer Moreira escalated the situation by
    2   asking the men to step out of the vehicle. But the footage leaves the opposite
    3   impression. Officer Moreira testified that both Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez’s
    4   nervousness resulted in the pair avoiding eye contact, speaking in a low voice,
    5   and, in Rivera-Vasquez’s case, shaky hands. But on the video both Santillan and
    6   Rivera-Vasquez seem to be looking the officers in the face, speaking with
    7   reasonable animation, and, at one point, even perhaps joking with the officers. I
    8   will admit the two appear potentially to be cold. It was, after all, February in
    9   New York City, and snow lined the roadsides. But, based on my review of the
    10   pair’s demeanor on camera, I simply do not share Officer Moriera’s perception
    11   that they were visibly, highly nervous. Thus, while I would not argue that the
    12   district court clearly erred in accepting the officers’ testimony to the effect that
    13   Santillan and Rivera-Vasquez were nervous, it is worth noting that this case
    14   provides a strong example of why nervousness often lies in the eye of the
    15   beholder.
    16         Finally, in addition to nervousness, the sole other factor at the eight-
    17   minute mark was the unsatisfactory answer given by the pair regarding their
    18   point of origin. Rivera-Vasquez reported that they were traveling from
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    1   Santillan’s aunt’s house; Santillan said the aunt’s house was in New Jersey, and
    2   tried to specify a town, but Officer Moreira was unable to understand him. These
    3   answers are hardly suspect.
    4         Beginning at the outset of the traffic stop, when asked where they were
    5   coming from, Rivera-Vasquez, the driver, said Santillan’s aunt’s house. First, it is
    6   important to recall that officers routinely ask similar questions, but drivers are
    7   under no obligation to provide such information. See Berkemer v. McCarty, 468
    
    8 U.S. 420
    , 439 (1984) (during Terry stops, including traffic stops, “detainee is not
    9   obliged to respond” to officer’s questions); but see Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist.
    10   Court of Nevada, Humboldt Cty., 
    542 U.S. 177
    , 187 (2004) (consistent with the
    11   Fourth Amendment, state law may require detainee to identify herself during
    12   Terry stop). Rivera-Vasquez nonetheless reported that he was coming from
    13   Santillan’s aunt’s house. Though perhaps it would have been preferable to give a
    14   geographic location, it is not particularly noteworthy that Rivera-Vasquez could
    15   not immediately do so. After all, it was Santillan’s aunt’s house, not Rivera-
    16   Vasquez’s, where they reported beginning the trip. And both Rivera-Vasquez
    17   and Santillan produced identification showing that they were from out of state—
    18   Rivera-Vasquez from Massachusetts, and Santillan from New Hampshire. Thus
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    1   Rivera-Vasquez’s reply might well have reflected only a lack of familiarity with
    2   the area. Further, in an era when many drivers are fully dependent on computer
    3   mapping programs to provide directions, it is unsurprising that the men—both
    4   from out of state—may have had a somewhat imprecise understanding of the
    5   location of the aunt’s house. Many people today let their cell phone tell them
    6   exactly where to go, without troubling themselves as to the specifics.
    7           Further, once Officer Moreira moved to the passenger side door, after
    8   spending approximately one minute at the driver side door, Santillan specified
    9   the state of origin as New Jersey. This would seem to be a sufficient answer to an
    10   officer’s query of “where are you coming from” on a routine traffic stop in New
    11   York.
    12           Finally, it is important to emphasize that it is unclear how much may have
    13   been lost in translation, since the conversation took place in both English and
    14   Spanish. The majority insists that there must not have been any
    15   miscommunication since Officer Moreira is a native Spanish speaker, and
    16   conversed with the men in both languages. Op. at 15. But Officer Moreira himself
    17   testified that he had difficulty understanding Santillan. See Joint App’x at 57
    18   (Officer Moreira testimony that Santillan “had difficulty pronouncing the name
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    1   and I had difficulty understanding the name of where he was – the city or
    2   township where he was saying, but he did mention that it was in New Jersey”).
    3   Thus it is not at all clear that the pair actually failed to provide the more specific
    4   answers that Officer Moreira was pressing for; rather, from Officer Moreira’s
    5   own recollection, it is clear that at least Santillan attempted to provide further
    6   information, but Officer Moreira had difficulty understanding him.
    7         Accordingly, in my view, the answers given by the men do not suffice to
    8   push this stop across the line and establish reasonable suspicion. The men
    9   specified that they were coming from Santillan’s aunt’s house in New Jersey, and
    10   there was some difficulty speaking across two different languages, which
    11   prevented them from communicating the more specific answer Officer Moreira
    12   sought. Many drivers, already nervous, will provide answers that the officer
    13   might find just as vaguely wanting as these.
    14         Accordingly, in my view, there was not reasonable suspicion to prolong
    15   the stop past the eight-minute mark, when Officer Moreira should have
    16   completed the traffic citation. Though Officer Moreira felt their answers were
    17   unsatisfactory and their behavior “too nervous,” such perceptions could only
    18   provide a basis for a hunch (which, of course, was later proven to be correct). But
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    1   they do not provide articulable grounds to believe the pair were engaged in
    2   “legal wrongdoing.” Singletary, 798 F.3d at 59. Indeed, I fear that because
    3   nervousness is a near-universal response to being pulled over by a police
    4   officer—regardless of whether the person has anything to hide—and because an
    5   officer may easily find one answer or another vague and unsatisfactory during
    6   the typical traffic stop, the majority’s analysis could be used to justify all manner
    7   of investigatory stops that have no basis other than the officer’s indistinct
    8   suspicion.
    9         II.    Events Following the Eight Minute Mark
    10         Because I would not find reasonable suspicion to prolong the stop, I do not
    11   address the events following the eight-minute mark in great detail. But I offer a
    12   few observations, as Officer Moreira’s actions following the eight-minute mark
    13   provide further indication that he was following up on a hunch, in disregard of
    14   the strictures of the Fourth Amendment.
    15         After the eight-minute mark, Officer Moreira returned from his patrol car
    16   and asked Rivera-Vasquez to exit the vehicle. He then frisked Rivera-Vasquez,
    17   pulled out his wallet, examined its contents, and asked Rivera-Vasquez to sit in
    18   the back of his patrol car, thus locking him in the backseat (after reassuring him
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    1   that he “wasn’t in any trouble,” Joint App’x at 55). Officer Moreira then repeated
    2   this process with Santillan, removing the contents of his pockets and asking him
    3   to sit in the back of another police car.
    4         First, it is plain that these actions violated the Fourth Amendment. Even
    5   the majority concludes that the search of Santillan’s pockets was impermissible,
    6   since there was no basis to believe that what turned out to be cash was either a
    7   weapon or contraband, as required to remove an item for inspection during a
    8   safety frisk. Op at 21-22. Of course, removing the contents of the pair’s pockets
    9   did serve one clear purpose: allowing Officer Moreira to continue his
    10   investigation by riffling through the men’s belongings in hopes of turning up
    11   evidence.
    12         Second, Officer Moreira’s testimony following the eight-minute mark
    13   shows that his suspicions were elevated by a number of utterly commonplace
    14   items. For example, Officer Moreira testified to becoming increasingly suspicious
    15   after observing energy drinks, one extra cellphone, and cell phone chargers. I
    16   imagine many college students might be surprised to hear that energy drinks
    17   figured prominently into the calculus. Similarly, anyone who has been required
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    1   to carry a separate cell phone specifically for work might find the officers’
    2   suspicions based on one extra phone rather strained. I certainly do.
    3                                      *      *        *
    4          Accordingly, I cannot agree that the officers had reasonable suspicion to
    5   prolong the stop any longer than necessary to issue the ticket. Generalized
    6   nervousness combined with an imprecise response about the point of origin is
    7   simply not enough to satisfy the Fourth Amendment.
    8         In my view, finding reasonable suspicion based largely on ineffable
    9   perceptions that an individual was “too nervous” runs roughshod over the
    10   requirement that an officer provide a “particularized and objective basis” for a
    11   stop. Wardlow, 
    528 U.S. at 128
    . Further, finding reasonable suspicion here risks
    12   granting officers unfettered discretion to detain anyone they wish based on a
    13   passing hunch. Many—if not most—traffic stops will yield nervous drivers and
    14   one or another answer that the officer could find unsatisfactory in some regard.
    15   Though reasonable suspicion is not a demanding standard, if it is to retain any
    16   meaning, it must require more that the impressionistic suspicions that Officer
    17   Moreira supplied here.
    18         For these reasons, I respectfully dissent.
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