Novato Healthcare Ctr. v. Nat'l Labor Relations Bd. , 916 F.3d 1095 ( 2019 )


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  • United States Court of Appeals
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
    Argued September 17, 2018             Decided March 5, 2019
    No. 17-1221
    NOVATO HEALTHCARE CENTER,
    PETITIONER
    v.
    NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD,
    RESPONDENT
    Consolidated with 17-1232
    On Petition for Review and Cross-Application
    for Enforcement of an Order of
    the National Labor Relations Board
    Ryan N. Parsons argued the cause for petitioner. With him
    on the briefs was Kamran Mirrafati.
    Rebecca J. Johnston, Attorney, National Labor Relations
    Board, argued the cause for respondent. With her on the brief
    were Peter B. Robb, General Counsel, John W. Kyle, Deputy
    General Counsel, Linda Dreeben, Deputy Associate General
    Counsel, and Jill A. Griffin, Supervisory Attorney.
    Before: GARLAND, Chief Judge, GRIFFITH, Circuit Judge,
    and EDWARDS, Senior Circuit Judge.
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    Opinion for the Court filed by Chief Judge GARLAND.
    GARLAND, Chief Judge: In 1992, Vincent Gambini taught
    a master class in cross-examination.1 Trial counsel for the
    National Labor Relations Board and the National Union of
    Healthcare Workers apparently paid attention. In this petition
    for review, Novato Healthcare Center challenges the Board’s
    finding that it committed an unfair labor practice by firing four
    union organizers two days before a union election. As Novato
    acknowledges, its “entire case turns on whether the testimony”
    of one of its supervisors “should be credited.” Reply Br. 5. But
    the Board determined that the testimony should not be credited,
    and trial counsel’s cross-examination of the supervisor provides
    substantial evidence to support that determination. For this
    reason, and because the other findings that Novato challenges
    are also supported by substantial evidence, we deny Novato’s
    petition for review and grant the Board’s cross-application for
    enforcement.
    I
    Novato operates a skilled-nursing facility in California that
    cares for about 170 patients. On September 16, 2015, the
    National Union of Healthcare Workers filed a petition with the
    National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) to represent a unit of
    Novato employees. Among the employees leading the union-
    organizing effort were Narvius Metellus, Rolando Bernales,
    Arlene Waters Brown, and Angel Sabelino. All four attended
    union meetings, collected show-of-interest signatures, wore
    pro-union buttons and lanyards, distributed union regalia, and
    passed out flyers promoting the union.
    1
    See MY COUSIN VINNY (Twentieth Century Fox 1992) (cross-
    examination of Mr. Tipton); infra note 5.
    3
    Novato’s management undertook its own union-opposition
    campaign. Although Novato supervisors did not generally work
    night shifts, facility administrator Darron Treude asked
    supervisors to volunteer for those shifts so they could provide
    union-opposition materials to employees and answer their
    questions. CPEhr, an outside consulting group that provides
    employment law advice, spearheaded the union-opposition
    campaign on behalf of Novato.
    On October 4, 2015, ten days before the October 14-15
    representation election, Novato supervisor Gay Rocha
    approached employee Metellus at approximately 6:30 a.m.
    Rocha asked Metellus, who was a relatively new employee, how
    he planned to vote in the upcoming election. When Metellus
    responded that he planned to vote in favor of the union, Rocha
    told him that doing so would have implications for his pay and
    that the union could potentially take a portion of his paycheck.
    Metellus responded that this would not be a problem for him.
    On October 6-7, Metellus, Bernales, Brown, and Sabelino
    worked the night shift together at Station 4, one of four nursing
    stations at the Novato facility. During that shift, another
    employee, Gonzala Rodriguez, whose union views were and
    remain unknown, worked at Station 1. At Novato, night-shift
    employees work from 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 or 7:30 a.m.,
    depending on their positions. During a shift, employees are
    allowed two 10-minute rest breaks. In addition, they are
    allowed one 30-minute meal break. Employees routinely sleep
    during these breaks, which they are permitted to take at any
    time, so long as at least one station member is available. See
    Novato Healthcare Ctr., 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 7 (Sept. 29,
    2017) (ALJ Op.).
    Novato supervisor Teresa Gilman also worked the night
    shift on October 6-7, as part of Novato’s union-opposition
    4
    campaign. According to Gilman’s testimony at the subsequent
    unfair labor practices hearing, she arrived at the Novato facility
    some time after 3:50 a.m. on October 7. After completing a
    number of tasks, Gilman began making the rounds of the
    nursing stations, starting with Station 4.
    Gilman testified that, when she arrived at Station 4, she saw
    all four employees sleeping. She said she stood in front of the
    employees for “several seconds to up to a minute” to see if they
    would wake up. 
    Id. at 11.
    According to Gilman, they did not.
    Gilman then proceeded to Stations 3 and 1.2 She testified
    that, at Station 1, she saw another employee, Rodriguez,
    sleeping. According to Gilman, Rodriguez was sitting in a chair
    outside a patient’s room with her head down on a table.
    On Gilman’s second and third rounds through Stations 4, 3,
    and 1, she said she saw all five employees still asleep in the
    same positions in which she had last seen them. On her third
    visit to Station 4, Gilman used her cell phone to take a
    photograph of two of the four employees, Brown and Sabelino.
    The photo shows the two with their eyes closed. Although the
    photograph initially did not have a timestamp, Gilman later
    produced a version with a timestamp of 4:21 a.m.
    Timing, in this case, is (almost) everything. Gilman
    testified that at least 15 to 20 minutes passed from the time she
    first arrived at Station 4 and saw the employees sleeping, to the
    time she took the photograph of the two sleeping employees. If
    true, this meant that at least two of the Station 4 employees had
    been sleeping considerably longer than their permitted 10-
    minute breaks.
    2
    She did not stop at Station 2 because it was “an alarmed unit
    and alarms would go off.” J.A. 443 (Gilman Test.).
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    Gilman then went on to revisit Station 1. She noticed that
    Rodriguez was still sleeping and informed the charge nurse, who
    woke her up. Gilman estimated that Rodriguez had been asleep
    for at least 15 to 20 minutes as well. By the time Gilman
    returned to Station 4 for a fourth time, all four employees there
    were awake.
    On the morning of October 7, Gilman sent administrator
    Treude the photograph and soon thereafter informed him that the
    five employees had been asleep for 15 to 20 minutes. Treude
    suspended all five and initiated an investigation. Novato’s
    outside counsel, Richard Albert, as well as its outside consulting
    group, CPEhr, provided input regarding disciplinary options.
    Specifically, in an email to Treude and CPEhr, Albert
    recommended that Treude terminate all five employees.
    Although Albert recognized that Rodriguez was “a bit of a
    different story” because her “Charge Nurse appears to have
    tolerated her sleeping,” he still recommended her termination:
    “[G]iving her lesser discipline, in this situation, sends the wrong
    message to the NLRB or a judge looking at this. It is possible
    that [the] NLRB or judge could view her situation as being less
    serious than the others, but I would rather have you take that
    risk, than the risk that letting her remain employed somehow
    dilutes our arguments with the other 4.” Email from Albert to
    Treude, et al. (Oct. 10, 2015) (J.A. 529).
    On October 12, two days before the scheduled election,
    Treude fired all five employees for sleeping on duty. On
    October 14 and 15, the NLRB conducted the election, which the
    union won.
    Thereafter, the union charged Novato with committing
    unfair labor practices, and the NLRB’s General Counsel issued
    a complaint. Gilman testified as recounted above. The two
    Station 4 employees captured in the photograph, Brown and
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    Sabelino, acknowledged that they had slept, but said they did so
    only during their permitted 10-minute breaks. Bernales testified
    that, although he had rested during his allowed meal break, he
    did not sleep after returning to Station 4 at 4:00 a.m. Metellus
    testified that he did not sleep at all during that shift. Rodriguez,
    the Station 1 employee, did not testify.
    Following a multi-day hearing, the ALJ found that Novato
    violated the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA) by
    suspending and firing the five employees, and also violated the
    Act when Rocha questioned Metellus about how he planned to
    vote. 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 18. The Board affirmed the
    ALJ’s rulings, findings, credibility determinations, and
    conclusions, with minor modifications. 
    Id. at 1.
    Novato has now filed a petition for review in this court, and
    the NLRB has filed a cross-application for enforcement of its
    order. Under the applicable standard of review, we must uphold
    the judgment of the Board unless its findings are unsupported by
    substantial evidence, or it acted arbitrarily or otherwise erred in
    applying established law to the facts of the case. Spurlino
    Materials, LLC v. NLRB, 
    805 F.3d 1131
    , 1136 (D.C. Cir. 2015);
    Bally’s Park Place, Inc. v. NLRB, 
    646 F.3d 929
    , 935 (D.C. Cir.
    2011); see 29 U.S.C. § 160(f) (providing that the Board’s
    findings of fact are “conclusive” if “supported by substantial
    evidence on the record considered as a whole”).
    II
    We begin with Novato’s challenge to the Board’s finding
    that Novato violated Section 8(a)(1) and (3) of the NLRA, 29
    U.S.C. § 158(a)(1), (3), by suspending and then firing the four
    employees at Station 4. It is on this issue that the information
    elicited by cross-examination is important.
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    An employer violates Section 8(a)(1) and (3) by suspending
    or discharging an employee for engaging in protected union
    activity. NLRB v. Transp. Mgmt. Corp., 
    462 U.S. 393
    , 397-98
    (1983); Metro. Edison Co. v. NLRB, 
    460 U.S. 693
    , 698 n.4
    (1983); Tasty Baking Co. v. NLRB, 
    254 F.3d 114
    , 125 (D.C. Cir.
    2001).3 The Board employs the judicially approved Wright Line
    test when reviewing a claim that an employer discharged (or
    took other disciplinary action against) an employee for protected
    conduct. See Wright Line, 
    251 N.L.R.B. 1083
    , 1089 (1980); see
    also Transp. Mgmt. 
    Corp., 462 U.S. at 401-03
    (approving the
    Wright Line test); Bally’s Park 
    Place, 646 F.3d at 935
    . “Under
    that test, the General Counsel must first ‘make a prima facie
    showing sufficient to support the inference that protected . . .
    conduct was a motivating factor in the [discharge].’” Tasty
    
    Baking, 254 F.3d at 125
    (quoting TIC-The Indus. Co. Se. v.
    NLRB, 
    126 F.3d 334
    , 337 (D.C. Cir. 1997)). “Once a prima facie
    case has been established, the burden [of persuasion] shifts to
    the company to show that it would have taken the same action
    in the absence of the unlawful motive.” 
    Id. at 126;
    see Bally’s
    Park 
    Place, 646 F.3d at 935
    .
    In the proceedings below, Novato disputed the unfair labor
    practice charges at both steps of the Wright Line test. With
    respect to the first step, the ALJ, affirmed by the Board, readily
    3
    Section 7 of the NLRA guarantees employees the “right to
    self-organization, to form, join, or assist labor organizations, . . . and
    to engage in other concerted activities for the purpose of collective
    bargaining or other mutual aid or protection.” 29 U.S.C. § 157.
    Section 8(a)(1) provides that “[i]t shall be an unfair labor practice for
    an employer . . . to interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the
    exercise of the rights guaranteed” in Section 7. 
    Id. § 158(a)(1).
    And
    Section 8(a)(3) prohibits “discrimination in regard to . . . tenure of
    employment . . . to . . . discourage membership in any labor
    organization.” 
    Id. § 158(a)(3).
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    found sufficient evidence to support the inference that anti-union
    animus was a motivating factor in the suspension and discharge
    of the Station 4 employees. The “record show[ed],” the ALJ
    recounted, that the four employees “visibly supported the union
    organizing campaign by [inter alia] wearing lanyards and
    buttons, passing out flyers, and getting employees to sign [up]
    for a showing of interest,” and that “their actions were visible
    from Treude’s office.” 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 16. In light of
    those facts, the ALJ rejected, as “disingenuous,” Novato’s
    “claims that its supervisors were unaware of the employees’
    union activity.” 
    Id. She specifically
    declined to “credit
    Gilman’s testimony that she did not know whether the allegedly
    sleeping employees were union supporters since she did not
    notice any union lanyards or pins,” because Gilman “also
    testified in incredible detail as to how the employees were
    positioned and claimed to have stood in front of them for some
    time.” 
    Id. In addition,
    the ALJ noted that the “suspensions and
    discharges occurred only a couple weeks after the filing of the
    representation petition and only 1 week prior to the
    representation election.” 
    Id. And she
    also noted that Novato’s
    animus was “demonstrated by its contemporaneous 8(a)(1)
    violation[]”: Rocha’s unlawful interrogation of Metellus about
    his preference in the representation election. 
    Id. The ALJ
    found additional support for the inference of
    animus and discriminatory motivation in the fact that Novato
    “acted disparately”: “No other employees had been suspended
    and discharged for the same or similar allegations.” 
    Id. at 17.
    She observed that, “[i]n a similar situation in 2009 where an
    employee allegedly slept on duty, [Novato] did not discipline
    this employee even though there too was a picture of the
    sleeping employee.” 
    Id. The ALJ
    further noted that, although
    just one week “prior to the events at issue in [t]his matter, one
    of [Novato’s] supervisors also reported employees sleeping
    during the night shift[,] . . . Treude failed to investigate or follow
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    up on this allegation.” 
    Id. Instead, “Treude
    singularly focused
    on Metellus, Bernales, Brown, and Sabelino and one can only
    conclude it was due to their union activity.” 
    Id. In this
    court, Novato does “not contest the Board’s finding
    of an unlawful motivation in discharging the employees at
    issue.” Reply Br. 2; Oral Arg. at 1:50-2:33. Rather, Novato’s
    sole contention is that it met its burden of proof under the
    second step of the Wright Line test by proving “that it would
    have taken the same action absent the improper motive.” Reply
    Br. 4. As it argued below, Novato maintains here that it would
    have terminated the four regardless of their union support
    because of the “brazen” nature of their conduct in sleeping on
    duty. 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 17 (ALJ Op.).
    The ALJ, affirmed by the Board, rejected Novato’s Wright
    Line defense. Id.; see 
    id. at 1
    nn. 1, 2 (Board Op.). She rejected
    Treude’s testimony in its entirety for multiple reasons, including
    his demeanor, 
    id. at 5
    (ALJ Op.) (“evasive[], . . . vague and
    contradictory”), and his disparate treatment of earlier sleeping-
    on-the-job claims, 
    id. at 1
    7. As discussed below, she
    specifically discredited Gilman’s testimony that she saw the four
    employees sleeping on duty. 
    Id. at 5.
    Instead, she credited in its
    entirety the testimony of Brown, and in relevant part the
    testimony of Sabelino, both of whom acknowledged that they
    had slept but said they did so only during their permitted
    10-minute breaks. Id.4 In addition, the ALJ credited the
    testimony of Bernales, who testified that the only rest he took
    was during his permitted 30-minute meal break prior to 4:00
    a.m., and of Metellus, who testified that he did not sleep at all
    during the shift. 
    Id. at 5-6.
    4
    The ALJ further credited Brown’s testimony that she ensured
    that Metellus and Bernales were both awake and working when she
    went to sleep on her break. 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 5.
    10
    Novato acknowledges that its Step 2 Wright Line argument
    -- that it would have discharged the four employees regardless
    of any anti-union motive because they were sleeping on duty
    well past their permitted rest periods -- turns entirely on
    “whether the testimony of Gilman should be credited.” Reply
    Br. 5; Oral Arg. at 2:40-3:00. Novato’s success therefore
    depends on persuading us that the ALJ’s conclusions about
    Gilman’s credibility were unsupported. And that presents
    Novato with a difficult task because “we do not reverse the
    Board’s adoption of an ALJ’s credibility determinations unless
    . . . those determinations are ‘hopelessly incredible,’
    ‘self-contradictory,’ or ‘patently unsupportable.’” Shamrock
    Foods Co. v. NLRB, 
    346 F.3d 1130
    , 1134 (D.C. Cir. 2003)
    (quoting Cadbury Beverages, Inc. v. NLRB, 
    160 F.3d 24
    , 28
    (D.C. Cir. 1998)).
    Novato insists that it is up to this difficult task because
    photographic evidence “fully corroborated” Gilman’s testimony
    “that the Unit 4 employees were sleeping for 20 minutes.”
    Reply Br. 6, 5. That itself is an overstatement of Gilman’s
    actual testimony, which was that the employees were sleeping
    “at least 15 to 20 minutes.” J.A. 456 (Gilman Test.). Be that as
    it may, Novato’s argument here is in line with the position it
    took before the ALJ:
    Immediately after the October 7 incident, Gilman
    reported that she began her rounding at approximately
    4:00 am on October 7, and took the photo of Brown
    and Sabelino somewhere around 15-20 minutes later.
    At the time she made these representations, the photo
    Gilman had taken had no time stamp on it. . . . Once
    she [downloaded a software update on her smart
    phone], a time stamp appeared indicating that the
    picture was taken at 4:21 am . . . . This indisputable
    time stamp evidence is totally consistent with Gilman’s
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    testimony as well as her prior statements about the
    events of October 7 -- she arrived on Unit 4 at or
    slightly after 4:00 am, and took the photo at least
    15-20 minutes later.
    Novato Post-Hearing Br. 15 (emphasis added). Like the ALJ,
    we will assume that the 4:21 a.m. timestamp was accurate,
    notwithstanding some doubts in that regard. See 365 N.L.R.B.
    No. 137, at 5, 12 n.27.
    And here is where the lesson Vinny Gambini taught comes
    into play. A key issue in the murder trial of Vinny’s cousin,
    Bill, was how many minutes had passed between the time
    witness Sam Tipton saw Bill enter the Sac-O-Suds convenience
    store and the time he heard a gunshot. On direct examination,
    Tipton testified that he was sure only five minutes had passed
    because he saw Bill go into the store as he (Tipton) started
    making breakfast, and the shot rang out just as his breakfast was
    ready to eat. On cross-examination, Vinny elicited Tipton’s
    breakfast-making process. By the end of the cross, it was clear
    that Tipton could not have cooked his breakfast of eggs and grits
    in just five minutes.5
    5
    The cross-examination proceeded as follows:
    Q. Well, how much time was they in the store?
    A. Five minutes.
    Q. Five minutes? Are you sure, did you look at your watch?
    A. No.
    Q. Oh, oh, I’m sorry, you testified earlier that the boys went
    into the store, and you had just begun to make breakfast, you
    were just ready to eat, and you heard a gunshot. . . . So
    obviously it takes you five minutes to make breakfast.
    A. That’s right. . . .
    Q. Do you remember what you had?
    A. Eggs and grits.
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    So, too, here. Gilman testified that the only time she saw a
    clock on the morning of October 7 was when she stopped at a
    stop sign, three blocks from work, and noticed that her car’s
    clock showed it was 3:50 a.m. On cross-examination, she
    initially claimed that it took her only 5 to 10 minutes to get from
    that stop sign to Station 4, where she said she first encountered
    the four sleeping employees. J.A. 490 (Gilman Test.). If
    Gilman really had reached Station 4 in just 5 to 10 minutes, that
    would indeed have put her in a position to observe the sleeping
    employees at Station 4 at (or before) 4:00 a.m. -- just as
    Novato’s brief claimed. And if we further assume the accuracy
    of the 4:21 a.m. timestamp on the photograph Gilman took the
    last time she saw them sleeping, that would establish that at least
    Q. Eggs and grits. I like grits too. How do you cook your
    grits? You like ‘em regular, creamy, or al dente?
    A. Just regular, I guess.
    Q. Regular. Instant grits?
    A. No self-respecting Southerner uses instant grits. I take
    pride in my grits.
    Q. So, Mr. Tipton, how could it take you five minutes to cook
    your grits, when it takes the entire grit-eating world twenty
    minutes?
    A. I don’t know. I’m a fast cook I guess.
    Q. I’m sorry . . . . Are we to believe that boiling water soaks
    into a grit faster in your kitchen than on any place on the face
    of the earth?
    A. I don’t know.
    Q. Well, perhaps the laws of physics cease to exist on your
    stove? Were these magic grits? . . .
    Q. Are you sure about that five minutes? . . .
    A. I may have been mistaken.
    American Rhetoric: Movie Speech, “My Cousin Vinny (1992),”
    https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechmy
    cousinvinny3.html (video clip).
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    the two employees in the photo had been sleeping for at least 20
    minutes -- again, just as Novato claimed.
    The problem with this timeline is the sheer number of tasks
    Gilman claimed to have completed between stopping at the stop
    sign at 3:50 a.m. and arriving at Station 4 just 5 to 10 minutes
    later. During NLRB counsel’s cross-examination of Gilman,
    counsel drew out the following list of activities Gilman said she
    had completed during that period:
    - driven three more blocks to the Novato facility,
    stopping at another stop sign along the way;
    - parked her car and went into the facility;
    - walked to her office, where she logged on to her
    computer and checked her emails;
    - walked to the facility’s kitchen, where she checked
    the temperature logs for a refrigerator, for a walk-in
    refrigerator, and for a walk-in freezer; and checked the
    labels and dates of the items in the refrigerators;6
    - walked to and through the break room, where she
    used the restroom and then collected Novato union-
    opposition campaign flyers, on which someone had
    written “derogatory stuff”;
    - gone back to her office and read the flyers;
    - walked down the hallway toward Station 4, peeking
    in rooms along the way; and
    6
    During her direct examination, Gilman testified that she had
    also opened the oven doors, inspected the stove, and tidied up. See
    J.A. 427 (Gilman Test.).
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    - arrived at Station 4 for the first time, where she saw
    the sleeping employees.
    See Gilman Test. Tr. 804-15 (cross-examination by Marta
    Novoa, NLRB attorney).
    When the union’s attorney took up the tag-team match
    during her own shot at cross-examination, she hammered the
    point home:
    Q. So it’s your testimony that it only took [10] minutes
    to drive from the 7-Eleven [near the first stop sign],
    park, to go into your office, to log onto your computer,
    to check your email, go to the bathroom, use the
    restroom, cleanup the break room a little bit of these
    flyers, and go through all the procedures that [you]
    went through . . . in your kitchen.
    A. . . . [S]o roughly I would still say about five -- it
    wasn’t that long, you know. It wasn’t that long. . . .
    Q. So I’m trying to figure out from that time, driving,
    going through another stop sign, parking, getting in,
    unlocking your door, putting everything down,
    everything you did between there and when you first
    saw people sleeping, are you sure it was only ten
    minutes or less? Or could it have been 15 or 20
    minutes?
    A. No, it could not have been 15 or 20 minutes . . . .
    Q. Isn’t it true you’re just not sure how long it took you
    to get from the stop sign to [] Station 4 . . . ?
    A. Well, to me it seemed like everything that I was
    doing, it seemed like about 10 minutes had passed.
    Q. But you never looked at a clock to make sure that’s
    correct?
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    A. Correct.
    J.A. 490-92 (cross-examination by Heather Conger, union
    attorney).
    In light of the sheer “number of functions” Gilman “claimed
    to perform[,] . . . all within a very short time period,” the ALJ
    regarded her testimony as “simply . . . implausible.” 365
    N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 5. Moreover, Gilman’s testimony about
    how long the tasks had taken in the aggregate was rendered even
    more implausible by counsel’s further cross-examination about
    how long some of them had taken individually. In response to
    counsel’s questions, Gilman testified that: “from the stop sign to
    [the facility] that’s three or four minutes”; “[i]t takes three to
    four minutes to log onto my computer”; “[w]hat I did in my
    kitchen took a few minutes”; “I went over to the break room,
    [which] took three or four minutes”; and then “I left and went
    back to my office [put down the flyers, and looked at them
    again] just briefly.” J.A. 490-91 (Gilman Test.); Gilman Test.
    Tr. 814-15. By Gilman’s own account, then, those activities
    alone took about 15 minutes.              Given the additional,
    unaccounted-for activities that Gilman also had to complete, the
    ALJ reasonably concluded that Gilman’s aggregate time
    estimate was “unlikely and unbelievable due to the length of
    time she allocated to each task she completed” before first
    encountering the sleeping employees. 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at
    11 n.25.
    Nor was Gilman’s implausible timeline testimony the only
    problem the ALJ had with her credibility. So, too, was Gilman’s
    failure to photograph the other two employees who, she claimed,
    were also asleep at the same time at the same nursing station.
    So, too, was her failure to attempt to wake any of the four
    employees, or to seek immediate assistance from other
    supervisors, despite Novato’s contention that the employees had
    to be fired because they had put patients dangerously at risk by
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    sleeping on the job. See 
    id. at 5
    . So, too, was her assertion that
    she did not know the four were union adherents because she did
    not notice that they all wore pro-union lanyards and buttons --
    despite her claim that she could “recall significant details on
    how the employees slept” because she got within “arm’s reach”
    of them. 
    Id. at 5,
    11. And so, too, was Gilman’s denial that she
    herself wore an anti-union lanyard that morning, a denial she
    later had to withdraw. 
    Id. at 5,
    8 (admitting that she, along with
    other supervisors, wore lanyards urging employees, in capital
    letters, to “KEEP YOUR VOICE VOTE NO”).
    In the end, the ALJ simply could “not find [Gilman’s]
    testimony credible and reject[ed] her version of events
    completely.” 
    Id. at 5.
    The Board saw “no basis for reversing”
    that finding, see 
    id. at 1
    n.1, and neither do we. Novato proffers
    no other evidence that Brown and Sabelino were sleeping longer
    than their permitted break times and no other evidence that
    Metellus and Bernales were sleeping at all. Given the absence
    of such evidence, combined with the contrary testimony that the
    ALJ reasonably credited, we find nothing unreasonable in the
    Board’s conclusion that Novato failed to meet its burden of
    showing it would have fired the four employees notwithstanding
    its anti-union animus.
    III
    Novato also disputes the Board’s determination that it fired
    Rodriguez, the Station 1 employee, in violation of Section
    8(a)(1) and (3) of the NLRA. Novato emphasizes the “total lack
    of evidence” that Rodriguez did not sleep or that she was a
    union supporter. Novato Br. 21. This argument fails because
    the Board did not rely on such evidence to conclude that Novato
    committed an unfair labor practice by firing Rodriguez. Rather,
    the ALJ found, and the Board affirmed, that Novato violated the
    Act by using Rodriguez as a “pawn in an unlawful design.” 365
    17
    N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 18 (quoting Corliss Res., Inc., 362
    N.L.R.B. No. 21, at 4 (2015)).
    Although Rodriguez’s union views were unknown, the ALJ
    concluded that Novato fired her along with the Station 4
    employees “for fear of diluting its argument against the other
    discriminatees” and to “‘cover’ its unlawful suspension and
    termination of the other 4 employees.” 
    Id. As the
    Board has
    long held, “an employer’s discharge of uncommitted, neutral, or
    inactive employees in order to ‘cover’ or to facilitate
    discriminatory conduct against a targeted union-supporting
    employee or to discourage employee support for the union is
    violative of Section 8(a)(3) of the Act.” Dawson Carbide
    Indus., Inc., 
    273 N.L.R.B. 382
    , 389 (1984); see Metro-West
    Ambulance Servs., Inc., 
    360 N.L.R.B. 1029
    , 1056 (2014); Bay
    Corrugated Container, Inc., 
    310 N.L.R.B. 450
    , 451 (1993); see
    also Alpo Petfoods, Inc. v. NLRB, 
    126 F.3d 246
    , 255-56 (4th Cir.
    1997).
    Here, substantial evidence supports the Board’s conclusion
    that Rodriguez was discharged alongside the Station 4
    employees in order to provide cover for Novato’s discriminatory
    conduct toward those union supporters. The email from
    Novato’s outside counsel to administrator Treude all but
    admitted as much. Counsel acknowledged that Rodriguez was
    “a bit of a different story” from the other four because her
    “Charge Nurse appears to have tolerated her sleeping.” Email
    from Albert to Treude, et al. (Oct. 10, 2015) (J.A. 529).
    Nonetheless, he suggested that Treude fire her to avoid
    “dilut[ing] [Novato’s] arguments with the other 4.” 
    Id. And as
    the ALJ noted, “[d]espite claiming that he did not read [the]
    email recommendations, Treude exactly followed [the] advice.”
    365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 18; see 
    id. at 1
    3 n.39.
    18
    IV
    Finally, Novato challenges the Board’s finding that
    supervisor Gay Rocha unlawfully interrogated employee
    Narvius Metellus in violation of Section 8(a)(1) of the NLRA.
    On Sunday, October 4, 2015, ten days before the election,
    Rocha “came into the facility early as part of [Novato’s]
    opposition campaign.” 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 9 (ALJ Op.).
    Metellus testified that Rocha came up to him while he was
    standing near a vending machine and asked “how he planned to
    vote in the upcoming union election.” 
    Id. When Metellus
    said
    he planned to vote in favor of the union, Rocha told him that
    doing so would have implications for his pay and that the union
    could possibly take part of his paycheck. Id.7
    “The questioning of an employee about union activities or
    sympathies constitutes unlawful interrogation ‘if, under all the
    circumstances, it reasonably tends to restrain, coerce, or
    interfere with rights guaranteed by the Act.’” Shamrock 
    Foods, 346 F.3d at 1137
    (quoting Perdue Farms, Inc. v. NLRB, 
    144 F.3d 830
    , 835 (D.C. Cir. 1998)). In examining the totality of the
    circumstances, the Board considers such factors as: the nature
    of the information sought; the seniority of the questioner in the
    employer’s hierarchy; the place and manner of the conversation,
    including whether it took place during a disputed union
    campaign and whether the employee was alone; the truthfulness
    of the employee’s reply; and whether the questioner offered any
    legitimate purpose for his question or assurance against reprisal.
    7
    In Rocha’s testimony before the ALJ, she denied speaking to
    Metellus about his position regarding the union. The ALJ found that
    “Rocha cannot be believed” and credited Metellus’s version of events.
    365 N.L.R.B. No. 137, at 9. Before this court, Novato does not
    dispute Metellus’s recounting of his interaction with Rocha.
    19
    See, e.g., Shamrock 
    Foods, 346 F.3d at 1137
    ; Perdue 
    Farms, 144 F.3d at 835-36
    ; Rossmore House, 
    269 N.L.R.B. 1176
    , 1178
    n.20 (1984) (citing Bourne v. NLRB, 
    332 F.2d 47
    (2d Cir.
    1964)). The test is an objective one; proof of actual coercion is
    not required. See United Servs. Auto. Ass’n v. NLRB, 
    387 F.3d 908
    , 913 (D.C. Cir. 2004).
    In this case, the ALJ found that Rocha’s questioning about
    Metellus’s union views “would have a reasonable tendency to
    interfere with an employee’s Section 7 rights.” 365 N.L.R.B.
    No. 137, at 15; see supra note 3 (quoting Section 7, 29 U.S.C.
    § 157). Among the factors the judge cited for this conclusion
    were: Rocha questioned Metellus ten days before the
    representation election; “Metellus recognized Rocha as a
    supervisor at the facility”; Novato “ran an obvious union
    opposition campaign around this time period”; and “Rocha
    offered no explanation for her question nor did she provide
    assurances against reprisal to Metellus.” 365 N.L.R.B. No. 137,
    at 15. In affirming the ALJ’s finding, the Board added that
    “questions like Rocha’s -- going specifically to how an
    employee himself intends to vote -- have a uniquely coercive
    tendency,” and that “Rocha’s position as a high-level
    management official with no regular working relationship with
    Metellus compounded the coercive tendency of her question.”
    
    Id. at 2.
    Moreover, “Rocha’s subsequent comments that voting
    for the Union would have implications on Metellus’s pay and
    that the Union could possibly take part of his paycheck clearly
    communicated [Novato’s] preference that Metellus should vote
    against representation.” 
    Id. “Recognizing the
    Board’s ‘competence in the first instance
    to judge the impact of utterances made in the context of the
    employer-employee relationship,’” Shamrock 
    Foods, 346 F.3d at 1137
    (citations omitted), we uphold as reasonable its
    conclusion that Rocha’s questioning was sufficiently coercive to
    20
    violate the Act. As noted above, the factors cited by the Board
    are among those upon which it has traditionally relied and
    support the conclusion here that the interrogation “reasonably
    tend[ed] to restrain, coerce, or interfere with rights guaranteed
    by the Act.” 
    Id. (citation omitted).
    Novato further maintains that the Board’s finding of an
    unlawful interrogation violates Novato’s free-speech rights
    under the First Amendment and Section 8(c) of the NLRA. See
    29 U.S.C. § 158(c) (“The expressing of any views . . . shall not
    constitute or be evidence of an unfair labor practice . . . if such
    expression contains no threat of reprisal or force or promise of
    benefit.”). Rocha, it insists, simply exercised Novato’s First
    Amendment rights in asking how Metellus planned to vote and
    merely spoke the truth when she informed him that the union
    could deduct dues from his paychecks. Novato Br. 25-26.
    Novato concedes that it did not raise this objection before
    the Board and that Section 10(e) of the NLRA deprives this
    court of jurisdiction to hear any “objection that has not been
    urged before the Board,” barring “extraordinary circumstances.”
    29 U.S.C. § 160(e). Novato proffers no circumstances,
    “extraordinary” or otherwise, to excuse its forfeiture. Instead,
    it insists that free-speech arguments cannot be forfeited and that
    Section 10(e) simply does not apply to First Amendment
    arguments. Oral Arg. 7:50; Reply Br. 12-13.
    The text of Section 10(e) makes no exception for
    free-speech objections, whether grounded in the First
    Amendment or Section 8(c). Nor do this circuit’s decisions.
    See Ampersand Publ’g, LLC v. NLRB, No. 15-1074, 
    2017 WL 1314946
    , at *2 (D.C. Cir. Mar. 3, 2017) (holding that the “court
    lacks jurisdiction to consider Ampersand’s broad First
    Amendment argument” because of Section 10(e)’s jurisdictional
    bar); Progressive Elec., Inc. v. NLRB, 
    453 F.3d 538
    , 545 (D.C.
    21
    Cir. 2006) (declining to hear an employer’s Section 8(c)
    argument because it had “not been raised before the Board”).
    Nor has Novato cited a single case to support its position.
    Accordingly, we do not consider this objection.
    V
    For the foregoing reasons, we deny Novato’s petition for
    review and grant the Board’s cross-application for enforcement.
    So ordered.