State v. Delvallie , 2022 Ohio 470 ( 2022 )


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  • [Cite as State v. Delvallie, 
    2022-Ohio-470
    .]
    COURT OF APPEALS OF OHIO
    EIGHTH APPELLATE DISTRICT
    COUNTY OF CUYAHOGA
    STATE OF OHIO,                                       :
    Plaintiff-Appellee,                 :
    No. 109315
    v.                                  :
    BRADLEY DELVALLIE,                                   :
    Defendant-Appellant.                :
    JOURNAL ENTRY AND DECISION EN BANC
    JUDGMENT: AFFIRMED
    RELEASED AND JOURNALIZED: February 17, 2022
    Criminal Appeal from the Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas
    Case No. CR-19-645262-A
    Appearances:
    Michael C. O’Malley, Cuyahoga County Prosecuting
    Attorney, and Catherine M. Coleman and Daniel T. Van,
    Assistant Prosecuting Attorneys, for appellee.
    Cullen Sweeney, Cuyahoga County Public Defender, and
    Paul A. Kuzmins, Assistant Public Defender, for
    appellant.
    SEAN C. GALLAGHER, A.J.:
    The Reagan Tokes Law (enacted through S.B. 201) represents the Ohio
    legislature’s first major departure from the so-called “truth in sentencing law,”
    enacted through S.B. 2 in 1996. It embodies a policy determination by the Ohio
    legislature that definite terms under S.B. 2 failed for serious felony offenders. The
    rape and murder of 21-year-old Reagan Tokes by an offender who had served his
    definite sentence, despite perpetual misconduct during his term of imprisonment
    and during his postrelease control, brought the legislature to the nearly unanimous,
    bipartisan conclusion that definite sentences for serious offenders who displayed no
    rehabilitative qualities during their incarceration created an unsafe condition for an
    unsuspecting    public.      Senate    Bill   201   Votes   Results,   available   at
    https://web.archive.org/web/20211117125521/https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/le
    gislation/legislation-votes?id=GA132-SB-201 (last visited Jan. 22, 2022) (both
    houses of the legislature voted in favor of enacting S.B. 201 in its final form with a
    single dissenting vote).
    The law reverts Ohio to an indefinite sentencing scheme for the most
    serious offenses under Ohio’s criminal law — a sentencing structure that has been
    in place for well over a century. See State ex rel. Atty. Gen. v. Peters, 
    43 Ohio St. 629
    , 
    4 N.E. 81
     (1885), syllabus. The formulas to impose indefinite sentences under
    the Reagan Tokes Law can be described as complicated and confusing, but that does
    not render them unconstitutional. In the clamor surrounding the Reagan Tokes
    Law’s enactment and the difficulties in deciphering some of its provisions, we have
    seen judges with the stroke of a pen declare the entire 435-page law unconstitutional
    based on the language in, or perceived omissions from, R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D).
    The Reagan Tokes Law under R.C. 2901.011,1 however, is a statutorily defined term
    of art that includes 54 statutory sections, including an amendment of 50 existing
    statutory sections and the adoption of four new statutes. 
    Id.
     Fifty-three of the
    statutory sections have been deemed unenforceable with no analysis discussing how
    those provisions violate constitutional safeguards or the impact the supposed
    offending provisions from R.C. 2967.271 have on the remaining statutory sections
    known as the Reagan Tokes Law. State v. Sealey, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109670,
    
    2021-Ohio-1949
    , ¶ 45; State v. Daniel, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109583, 2021-Ohio-
    1963, ¶ 44; State v. Delvallie, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109315, 
    2021-Ohio-1809
    , ¶ 32
    (the “Reagan Tokes Law” is unconstitutional because R.C. 2967.271 infringes on the
    defendant’s right to a jury under the Sixth Amendment).
    In Sealey, in an appeal filed by the state, the panel declared subsections
    (C) and (D) of R.C. 2967.271 unconstitutional. While it may have been the panel’s
    intent to only find subsections (C) and (D) of R.C. 2967.271 unconstitutional, the net
    effect of the panel’s ruling affirmed the trial court’s holding that the “Reagan Tokes
    Law” is unconstitutional in its entirety. Id. at ¶ 45 (“the trial court’s finding the
    Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional is affirmed”); see also Daniel (after declaring
    subsections (C) and (D) of R.C. 2967.271 unconstitutional, the panel concluded
    without additional analysis that “the Reagan Tokes Law does not satisfy the
    1 Although R.C. 2901.011 delineates the 54 statutory sections comprising the
    Reagan Tokes Law, S.B. 201 resulted in the amendment to 57 statutory sections, in
    addition to the creation of five new sections. Any references throughout to the Reagan
    Tokes Law in this opinion are limited to the statutory definition as provided under R.C.
    2901.011.
    requirements of due process and, as such, violates [the defendant’s] constitutional
    rights” (Emphasis added.)); but see State v. Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No.
    109507, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    , ¶ 18; State v. Gamble, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109613,
    
    2021-Ohio-1810
    , ¶ 6 (overruling the defendant’s assignment of error in which it was
    claimed that the Reagan Tokes Law was unconstitutional). In other words, Sealey
    affirmed the trial court’s decision declaring the Reagan Tokes Law to be
    unconstitutional based on the panel’s conclusion that aspects of R.C. 2967.271 were
    deemed unconstitutional — the effect of which rendered the whole of the law
    unenforceable because of the constitutional analysis limited to one provision. But
    see State ex rel. Sunset Estate Properties, L.L.C. v. Lodi, 
    142 Ohio St.3d 351
    , 2015-
    Ohio-790, 
    30 N.E.3d 934
    , ¶ 16 (R.C. 1.50 creates a presumption of severability such
    that the constitutional infirmity of one statute does not impact the validity of the
    entire law).
    Pursuant to App.R. 26, Loc.App.R. 26, and McFadden v. Cleveland
    State Univ., 
    120 Ohio St.3d 54
    , 
    2008-Ohio-4914
    , 
    896 N.E.2d 672
    , this court sua
    sponte determined that the panel decision in Delvallie, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No.
    109315, 
    2021-Ohio-1809
    , conflicts with the following opinions: Gamble, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 109613, 
    2021-Ohio-1810
    ; State v. Simmons, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No.
    109476, 
    2021-Ohio-939
    ; and Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109507, 2021-Ohio-
    578. We must, therefore, resolve the constitutional validity of R.C. 2967.271 and the
    Reagan Tokes Law in general.
    I.       Putting the background of the Reagan Tokes Law into
    perspective
    At the outset, it is important to examine the apparent legislative intent
    behind the law and its effect on Ohio’s criminal justice scheme in light of the
    conflicting conclusions reached in Delvallie, Sealey, and Daniel. 2
    The Reagan Tokes Law offers the chance for Ohio to return to an
    incentive-based, rehabilitative prison process for serious offenders. See, e.g., Siegel,
    Reagan Tokes Act seeks to undo years of definitive sentencing in Ohio, The
    Columbus Dispatch (Oct. 25, 2017) (quoting State Senator Kevin Bacon describing
    the   intent     behind    passing    the    Reagan     Tokes     Law),    available    at
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210818163121/https://www.timesreporter.com/n
    ews/20171025/reagan-tokes-act-seeks-to-undo-years-of-definitive-sentencing-in-
    ohio (last visited Jan. 22, 2022).3 That process can incentivize socially acceptable
    conduct by offering inmates a tangible way to reduce their overall sentences through
    buying into the social contract — a tacit agreement to live together in accordance to
    the socially established rules of behavior. See 
    id.
     The Reagan Tokes Law offers
    inmates the opportunity to demonstrate their willingness to reform and in the
    process to receive lesser sentences based on their behavior, instead of serving
    2 The conflicts created by Sealey and Daniel will be resolved in each respective case
    based on the outcome herein.
    3 Since Delvallie relies on the blanket assertion that “the public media is replete
    with reports of attacks by inmates against inmates, inmates against corrections officers,
    and corrections officers against inmates” in declaring the Reagan Tokes Law
    unconstitutional, it only seems fair to review the legislature’s public commentary to
    understand the history of the law. Delvallie at ¶ 68.
    definite terms. Reagan Tokes case spurs Ohio legislation to change incarceration
    guidelines, TrueCrimeDaily.com (May 14, 2018) (“‘The data and evidence has found
    that the indefinite sentencing worked to actually help rehabilitate these offenders
    because they are more incentivized to participate in programming and to not face
    longer prison terms,’ said Ohio State Rep. Kristin Boggs.”), available at
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210818164113/https://truecrimedaily.com/2018/
    05/14/reagan-tokes-case-spurs-ohio-legislation-to-change-incarceration-
    guidelines/ (last visited Jan. 22, 2022). These changes provide the inmate the
    opportunity to reduce the overall prison term below what would be served under the
    pre-S.B. 201 definite sentencing structure. 
    Id.
     Under the pre-S.B. 201 definite
    sentencing law, Ohio focused on the punitive nature of the imprisonment system.
    The Reagan Tokes Law offers an albeit small, but beginning, step away from that
    draconian approach.
    Back in 1974 when Ohio revamped the Revised Code, there were no
    definite sentences. First-degree felony offenses were imposed using a range — a
    minimum     of   4,   5,   6,   or   7   years   to   a   maximum    of   25   years.
    https://www.supremecourt.ohio.gov/Boards/Sentencing/Materials/2017/May/fel
    onyRangeSB2.pdf. Second-degree felony offenses had a minimum of 2, 3, 4, or 5 to
    the maximum of 15 years. 
    Id.
     Third-degree felony offenses had a range of 1, 1-1/2,
    2, or 3 years to 10 years, and fourth-degree felony offenses had a range of 1/2, 1,
    1-1/2 years, or 2 years up to 5 years. 
    Id.,
     see also H.B. 511. Every inmate was given
    an indefinite range with a parole eligibility date. Inmates ages 18-25 were given
    what was termed as “reformatory” time, while adults over 25 were given
    “penitentiary” time. For example, a reformatory inmate serving an indefinite 5-year
    sentence would become parole eligible after serving 1 year and 10 months. A
    penitentiary inmate with the same 5-year indefinite sentence would be eligible after
    serving 2 full years.
    Definite sentences did not exist in Ohio until S.B. 199, effective July 1,
    1983. That enactment created two nonmandatory determinate prison sentence
    ranges for low-level nonviolent felons, and a three-year mandatory sentence for
    using or possessing a gun while committing a felony. The overall result was eight
    new sentencing ranges added to the original four ranges from the 1974 criminal
    code.
    Assessing and crediting behavior in prison was very much a part of both
    H.B. 511 and S.B. 199 and the parole process in general. Inmates doing reformatory
    time could get up to 12 days per month, prorated for each month, if they obeyed the
    rules of the institution. Good time likewise reduced the time for penitentiary
    inmates by up to 8 days per month, prorated for each month, if they obeyed the rules
    of the institution.
    The so-called truth-in-sentencing scheme known as S.B. 2, became
    effective July 1, 1996. S.B. 2 brought definite sentencing to Ohio for the vast majority
    of crimes and ended parole eligibility for those inmates sentenced to definite terms.
    Many of the behavioral incentives previously in place affecting the parole
    determinations were also lost. In essence, definite sentencing transformed what had
    been a rehabilitative focus underlying prison terms into a purely punitive system. It
    is not a coincidence that the prison population exploded under the weight of the
    definite sentencing structure. It also turned out to be one of the costliest pieces of
    legislation in Ohio history.
    The litigation it spawned went on for decades and often resulted in the
    unending process of transporting inmates back and forth for resentencing hearings,
    largely for judges to make perfunctory findings or to utter magic words. Burt W.
    Griffin and Lewis R. Katz, Sentencing Consistency: Basic Principles Instead Of
    Numerical Grids: The Ohio Plan, 53 Case W.Res.L.Rev. 1, 30-31, 32 (2002)
    (explaining the necessary conclusions needed under the then newly enacted definite
    sentencing scheme leading to appellate reversals of sentences). The results of S.B.
    2 were in the details. Ohio’s prison population topped 50,000 for the first time
    around 2008. Amber G. Damiani,4 Nix The “Fix”: An Analysis On Ohio’s Criminal
    Sentencing Law And Its Effect On Prison Population, 47 Cap.U.L.Rev. 755, 755
    (2019). Many inmates serving these definite terms were subjected to consecutive
    sentences with no option for parole, resulting in what amounted to de facto life
    terms. See State v. Gwynne, 5th Dist. Delaware No. 16 CAA12 0056, 2021-Ohio-
    2378. There has been a slow recognition that the felony sentencing scheme under
    S.B. 2 has become not only more complex, but also more costly — driving up the
    prison population with no mechanisms to assess inmates’ reformative conduct.
    4   The author earned a law degree from Capital University Law School in 2019.
    Siegel, Reagan Tokes Act seeks to undo years of definitive sentencing in Ohio, supra
    (“For some offenders, there is no incentive to help yourself or not commit acts
    against other prisoners[.]”). One solution was to increase the Ohio Department of
    Rehabilitation and Correction’s (“ODRC”) and its Adult Parole Authority’s
    participation in the prison process by increasing the use of indefinite sentencing and
    the ability of ODRC to be involved in release options. Nix the “Fix” at 785-786.
    The Reagan Tokes Law appears to be an effort to return Ohio to its
    core sentencing approach, implementing the reformative incentive for offenders
    that was lost to the definite sentencing structure. Griffin and Katz, Sentencing
    Consistency: Basic Principles Instead Of Numerical Grids: The Ohio Plan, 53 Case
    W.Res.L.Rev. 1, 38 (explaining the history Ohio’s implementation of rehabilitative
    sentencing through indefinite sentencing and good time reductions dating back to
    1869 and 1856). The law, for example, includes a provision for “earned reduction of
    minimum prison term” (“ERMPT”) of between 5 percent and 15 percent off the
    minimum term — a sentencing reduction not afforded to nonqualifying felony
    offenders. R.C. 2967.271(F)(1)(b). The law identifies “exceptional conduct or
    adjustment to incarceration” as the basis for awarding the reduction under R.C.
    2967.271(F)(7). In addition, the new law empowers inmates with a presumption of
    release at the end of their minimum term, something unparalleled in Ohio history
    with respect to indefinite sentences and parole eligibility. Inmates never had a
    presumption of release in any other legislative enactment of indefinite prison terms.
    The presumption before the Reagan Tokes Law was always in favor of serving the
    full term.
    Despite the legislature’s incentive-laden approach to criminal justice,
    there has been a broad push by opponents of the law to summarily declare the whole
    of the Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional while focusing only on aspects of R.C.
    2967.271(B)-(F), which permit the executive branch to “maintain” the indefinite
    portion of the sentence for offenders that flout prison rules and regulations.
    The defendants’ rush to eliminate the entirety of the legislature’s
    departure from a purely punitive prison policy overlooks the reductions afforded
    under the new law, and it might shock those offenders who learn that their sentences
    could have been reduced under R.C. 2967.271(F) to discover that their opportunity
    for a shorter prison term could be declared unconstitutional or unenforceable by
    these appeals. Rather than broadly attacking the new law, one would have thought
    there would be a greater call for more incentive-based sentence reductions for
    inmates like those that are available under this law.
    While it is true some inmates could serve longer terms under the
    Reagan Tokes Law based on the nature of the indefinite prison sentence structure,
    those longer terms are determined by the conduct of the inmate. That policy
    determination is purely within the legislature’s role under the tripartite system of
    government. Permitting the executive agency to review an inmate’s prison conduct
    is a process deeply rooted within the Ohio Revised Code. See, e.g., R.C. 2967.193(A);
    R.C. 2967.13. This idea is also nothing new. It is important to recognize that the
    indefinite prison sentence with the executive branch’s review has been a mainstay
    of Ohio law since time immemorial, and it does not appear that any argument as to
    the constitutional validity of the Reagan Tokes Law challenges R.C. 2929.144 or the
    imposition of the indefinite term. Instead, the primary focus is on R.C. 2967.271(C)
    and (D), which incidentally are modeled on existing Ohio law and rely on the
    currently enacted prison rule infraction system. See R.C. 2967.15; Ohio Adm.Code
    5120-9-08.
    As with all appeals, we must begin with the arguments as presented.
    II.    Defendants bear the burden to demonstrate the law is
    unconstitutional
    We find that the Reagan Tokes Law, as defined under R.C. 2901.011, is
    not unconstitutional based on the arguments presented, reaffirming the principles
    established in Gamble, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109613, 
    2021-Ohio-1810
    , Simmons,
    8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109476, 
    2021-Ohio-939
    , and Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga
    No. 109507, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    . The decisions reached to the contrary in Delvallie,
    Sealey, and Daniel, are therefore vacated for the following reasons.
    In order to succeed in a constitutional challenge, a defendant must
    demonstrate that the law is unconstitutional beyond a reasonable doubt. State v.
    Bloomer, 
    122 Ohio St.3d 200
    , 
    2009-Ohio-2462
    , 
    909 N.E.2d 1254
    , ¶ 41, citing State
    v. Ferguson, 
    120 Ohio St.3d 7
    , 
    2008-Ohio-4824
    , 
    896 N.E.2d 110
    , ¶ 12. When
    addressing constitutional challenges, courts must remain mindful that all statutes
    have a strong presumption of constitutionality. Arbino v. Johnson & Johnson, 
    116 Ohio St.3d 468
    , 
    2007-Ohio-6948
    , 
    880 N.E.2d 420
    , ¶ 25; Sorrell v. Thevenir, 
    69 Ohio St.3d 415
    , 419, 
    633 N.E.2d 504
     (1994), citing State ex rel. Dickman v.
    Defenbacher, 
    164 Ohio St. 142
    , 
    128 N.E.2d 59
     (1955), paragraph one of the syllabus;
    Jones v. MetroHealth Med. Ctr., 
    2017-Ohio-7329
    , 
    89 N.E.3d 633
    , ¶ 63 (8th Dist.).
    Courts in Ohio do not share the responsibility of establishing
    “legislative policies or [second-guessing] the General Assembly’s policy choices.
    ‘[T]he General Assembly is responsible for weighing [policy] concerns and making
    policy decisions; [courts] are charged with evaluating the constitutionality of their
    choices.’” Stetter v. R.J. Corman Derailment Servs., L.L.C., 
    125 Ohio St.3d 280
    ,
    
    2010-Ohio-1029
    , 
    927 N.E.2d 1092
    , ¶ 35, quoting Groch v. Gen. Motors Corp., 
    117 Ohio St.3d 192
    , 
    2008-Ohio-546
    , 
    883 N.E.2d 377
    , ¶ 212, and Arbino at ¶ 113. For
    this reason, the standard to declare a statute unconstitutional is high:
    A party may challenge a statute as unconstitutional on its face or as
    applied to a particular set of facts. A facial challenge to a statute is the
    most difficult to bring successfully because the challenger must
    establish that there exists no set of circumstances under which the
    statute would be valid. The fact that a statute might operate
    unconstitutionally under some plausible set of circumstances is
    insufficient to render it wholly invalid.
    (Emphasis added.) Harrold v. Collier, 
    107 Ohio St.3d 44
    , 
    2005-Ohio-5334
    , 
    836 N.E.2d 1165
    , ¶ 37, citing Belden v. Union Cent. Life Ins. Co., 
    143 Ohio St. 329
    , 
    55 N.E.2d 629
     (1944), paragraph four of the syllabus, and United States v. Salerno, 
    481 U.S. 739
    , 745, 
    107 S.Ct. 2095
    , 
    95 L.Ed.2d 697
     (1987); see also, e.g., State v. Beard,
    
    2021-Ohio-2512
    , 
    177 N.E.3d 591
    , ¶ 29 (8th Dist.) (defendant failed to demonstrate
    beyond a reasonable doubt that the statutory provision was unconstitutional).
    Defendants challenging the Reagan Tokes Law generally advance
    three claims in support of the due process violation argument, citing the Fourteenth
    Amendment to the United States Constitution and Article I, Section 16, of the Ohio
    Constitution: (1) that the Reagan Tokes Law violates the right to trial by jury or (2)
    that the Reagan Tokes Law violates the separation-of-powers doctrine and (3) that
    R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D), which provide offenders with the right to a hearing before
    imposition of the maximum term imposed under R.C. 2929.144, fail to provide the
    full panoply of constitutional pretrial rights in violation of their due process rights.
    The cases giving rise to our en banc review are no different, offering at least some
    derivation of those arguments, if not a verbatim recitation.
    Importantly, however, no one has demonstrated that the imposition
    of an indefinite term under R.C. 2929.144 and 2929.14 itself violates any
    constitutional provision or that the legislature’s lack of procedural guidance within
    R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) is integral to the whole of the Reagan Tokes Law. State v.
    Foster, 
    109 Ohio St.3d 1
    , 
    2006-Ohio-856
    , 
    845 N.E.2d 470
    , ¶ 99 (severance of the
    offending provision is a necessary consideration before declaring the entire
    statutory section unconstitutional). Thus, our starting point should be to presume
    that the indefinite term as imposed by the trial court, if not the 53 remaining
    statutory sections under R.C. 2901.011, are constitutionally sound. State ex rel.
    Sunset Estate Properties, 
    142 Ohio St.3d 351
    , 
    2015-Ohio-790
    , 
    30 N.E.3d 934
    , at ¶ 6
    (R.C. 1.50 creates a presumption of severability).
    Our review of the constitutional validity of the Reagan Tokes Law is
    not limited to just the general impressions. We cannot look to the vague assertions
    that the “Reagan Tokes Law is unconstitutional” in its entirety as it interweaves itself
    throughout the Revised Code and administrative process. Declaring the Reagan
    Tokes Law unconstitutional or unenforceable invalidates all 54 statutory sections
    listed under R.C. 2901.011. Since we must presume the constitutional validity of
    statutes, we must begin with the defendants’ challenges meant to rebut the
    presumption.
    a. The defendants’ general presumption regarding ODRC’s
    role in the sentencing structure is fundamentally flawed
    There is an overarching issue that appears to permeate every aspect of
    the constitutional challenge against the statutory sections codified as part of the
    Reagan Tokes Law. The defendants’ claims depend solely on the belief that ODRC
    “extends” or “imposes” a prison term under R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) beyond the
    maximum sentence imposed by the sentencing court. See, e.g., Delvallie, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 109315, 
    2021-Ohio-1809
    , at ¶ 54. To the contrary, R.C. 2929.144(B)
    provides that the sentencing court must determine the maximum term of
    imprisonment based on a mathematical formula as applied to the minimum term of
    imprisonment imposed under R.C. 2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a). The sentencing
    court must then impose that maximum sentence as part of the final conviction under
    the unambiguous language of R.C. 2929.144(C) (“The court imposing a prison term
    on an offender [under R.C. 2929.14(A)] for a qualifying felony of the first or second
    degree shall sentence the offender, as part of the sentence, to the maximum prison
    term determined under division (B) of this section” and impose both the minimum
    and maximum terms in the final entry of conviction.).
    Under R.C. 2967.271(D)(1), if ODRC rebuts the presumption of
    release following the minimum term, by considering the inmate’s institutional
    record at a hearing, “the department may maintain the offender’s incarceration in a
    state correctional institution under the sentence after the expiration of the offender’s
    minimum prison term * * *.” (Emphasis added.) 
    Id.
     “‘Maintain’ is defined as ‘to
    continue in possession of.’” Griffith v. Aultman Hosp., 
    146 Ohio St.3d 196
    , 2016-
    Ohio-1138, 
    54 N.E.3d 1196
    , ¶ 22, quoting Black’s Law Dictionary 1097 (10th
    Ed.2014). “Maintain” can also be defined as
    “1 : to keep in a state of repair, efficiency, or validity : preserve from
    failure or decline * * * 2 a : to sustain against opposition or danger :
    back up : DEFEND, UPHOLD * * * b : to uphold in argument : contend
    for * * * 3 : to persevere in : carry on : keep up : CONTINUE * * * 4 : to
    provide for : bear the expense of : SUPPORT * * * 5 : to affirm in or as
    if in argument : ASSERT, DECLARE * * * 6 : to assist (a party to legal
    action) so as to commit maintenance.”
    Ginn v. Stonecreek Dental Care, 12th Dist. Fayette Nos. CA2018-09-018, CA2018-
    09-019, and CA2018-11-022, 
    2019-Ohio-3229
    , ¶ 54, quoting Webster’s Third New
    International Dictionary 1362 (1993). In short, no definition of “maintain” includes
    the concept of “imposing” or “extending” a sentence. Thus, the defendants’ beliefs
    as to the structure of the maximum sentence are contrary to the plain language of
    R.C. 2929.144 and 2967.271(D). ODRC does not “extend” or “impose” a sentence,
    much less one that exceeds or extends the maximum term imposed by the trial court.
    ODRC simply “maintains” or continues the incarceration of the inmate under the
    term of imprisonment imposed by the trial court. This is not meaningfully distinct
    from Ohio’s current parole system, in which offenders may be kept in prison
    following service of the minimum term for parole eligibility.
    Under the sentencing structure codified in R.C. 2929.144 and 2929.14,
    the trial court imposes the minimum and maximum terms of imprisonment. ODRC,
    as an agency under the executive branch of government, simply enforces the
    judicially imposed sentence and has been delegated the responsibility over the
    release determinations under R.C. 2967.271(C)-(F). This is similar, if not identical,
    to the executive branch’s authority to release offenders from sentences under Ohio’s
    parole system for indefinite life sentences. R.C. 2967.12; 2967.16. The question,
    therefore, is not whether there is a perception that the maximum-term hearing
    infringes on a defendant’s constitutional rights, but whether the sentencing law as
    enacted does.
    The Reagan Tokes Law provisions under R.C. 2929.144 and 2967.271,
    as previously discussed, mirror those from R.C. 2929.02 and 2967.12 through
    2967.16. Both create a system of releasing offenders serving indefinite terms of
    imprisonment.      The Reagan Tokes Law, unlike the indefinite life sentencing
    structure under R.C. 2967.16 (final release from indefinite sentence statutory
    section, which requires the executive agency to determine the release on parole and
    then the final release from the prison sentence imposed by the trial court in separate
    stages), creates a presumption of a final release after the minimum term, subject to
    any applicable term of postrelease control. R.C. 2967.271(B). Under the indefinite
    life sentencing structure, ODRC makes the final determination of an inmate’s final
    release from prison. R.C. 2967.16. The Reagan Tokes Law removes that discretion
    and creates a presumption favoring release from the final sentence at the completion
    of the minimum term. R.C. 2967.271(B). That distinction does not alter the core
    sentencing approach of tasking ODRC with reviewing an inmate’s prison status
    while the inmate is serving a judicially imposed prison sentence or tasking ODRC
    with authority over maintaining a prisoner within the indefinite sentence.
    Therefore, the defendants’ request for us to declare the Reagan Tokes
    Law unconstitutional in its entirety, including the indefinite sentencing scheme
    codified under R.C. 2967.271, 2929.144, and 2929.14(A)(1)-(2), necessarily presents
    constitutional implications for indefinite life sentences under Ohio law that cannot
    be ignored. The executive branch makes parole decisions affecting the judicially
    imposed sentences under Ohio sentencing law in general. In light of the legislature’s
    use of the similar procedures as applied to both indefinite life and nonlife sentences,
    declaring the Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional poses ramifications far beyond
    S.B. 201.
    The legislature has the sole authority to define crimes and establish
    the punishment in Ohio. State v. Bates, 
    118 Ohio St.3d 174
    , 
    2008-Ohio-1983
    , 
    887 N.E.2d 328
    , ¶ 13, quoting Stewart v. Maxwell, 
    174 Ohio St. 180
    , 181, 
    187 N.E.2d 888
    (1963); State v. Harper, 
    160 Ohio St.3d 480
    , 
    2020-Ohio-2913
    , 
    159 N.E.3d 248
    , ¶ 2.
    If the legislature returns Ohio to indefinite sentencing for certain felony offenses, or
    even increases sentencing ranges, that is well within its legislative prerogative. Only
    the Ohio electorate can decide the General Assembly’s fate for such a policy decision.
    The General Assembly has determined that for any qualifying offense, as defined
    under R.C. 2929.144(A), the trial court must impose both a minimum and a
    maximum term of imprisonment.               R.C. 2929.144(C); 2929.14(A)(1)(a) and
    (A)(2)(a). Under R.C. 2967.271(D), ODRC is required to enforce or maintain that
    imposed sentence through the legislative delegation of authority — a principle that
    represents the bedrock of the Ohio criminal justice system and is analogous to Ohio’s
    current parole revocation system that is entirely managed by ODRC.
    With this background in mind, we can focus on the defendants’ three
    arguments in support of their claims that the Reagan Tokes Law is unconstitutional
    in its entirety.
    b. Defendants’ claims that the indefinite, nonlife sentences
    are analogous to the now-defunct “bad time” law are
    misplaced
    “A fundamental principle of the constitutional separation of powers
    among the three branches of government is that the legislative branch is ‘the
    ultimate arbiter of public policy.’” State v. Blankenship, 
    145 Ohio St.3d 221
    , 2015-
    Ohio-4624, 
    48 N.E.3d 516
    , ¶ 37, citing Arbino, 
    116 Ohio St.3d 468
    , 
    2007-Ohio-6948
    ,
    
    880 N.E.2d 420
    , at ¶ 21; State ex rel. Cincinnati Enquirer, Div. of Gannett Satellite
    Information Network v. Dupuis, 
    98 Ohio St.3d 126
    , 
    2002-Ohio-7041
    , 
    781 N.E.2d 163
    , ¶ 21. It is the legislature, not the judiciary, that possesses “the power to
    continually create and refine the laws to meet the needs of the citizens of Ohio.”
    Arbino at ¶ 21. “All statutes have a strong presumption of constitutionality.” Id. at
    ¶ 25. In order to find that a statute is unconstitutional, courts must determine
    “‘beyond a reasonable doubt that the legislation and constitutional provisions are
    clearly incompatible.’” Id., quoting State ex rel. Dickman, 
    164 Ohio St. 142
    , 
    128 N.E.2d 59
    , at paragraph one of the syllabus. Further, all doubts regarding the
    constitutionality of any given statute are resolved in favor of the statute. State v.
    Mason, 
    153 Ohio St.3d 476
    , 
    2018-Ohio-1462
    , 
    108 N.E.3d 56
    , ¶ 5, quoting State v.
    Gill, 
    63 Ohio St.3d 53
    , 55, 
    584 N.E.2d 1200
     (1992).
    Under the Reagan Tokes Law, the trial court sentences the offender to
    the minimum and maximum term, and that sentence must be included in the final
    entry of conviction. R.C. 2929.14; 2929.144. Thus, it is the judicial branch that
    imposes the statutorily required sentence and the only sentencing discretion
    provided to the trial court lies with the length of the minimum term under R.C.
    2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a). Neither the trial court nor ODRC has authority to
    increase any sentence beyond the maximum term set forth under R.C. 2929.144.
    R.C. 2967.271(B) establishes a presumptive release date at the end of
    the minimum term, and under subdivision (D), the legislature provides ODRC the
    framework required to enforce or “maintain” the maximum sentence imposed by
    the trial court in the final entry of conviction. ODRC may review the offender’s
    prison conduct, which is dependent on the institutional rule infraction system under
    Ohio law unrelated to the Reagan Tokes Law, and rebut that presumption of release
    to enforce, or “maintain” the remaining portion of the offender’s prison term (the
    maximum term) already imposed by the trial court. R.C. 2967.271(D)(1). This is
    similar to a sentencing court’s imposition of an indefinite life sentence that delegates
    authority to the executive branch to make any and all parole determinations and to
    release offenders from their judicially imposed sentences after the minimum period
    is served.   R.C. 2967.12; 2967.16.       Tellingly, the defendants are unable to
    demonstrate how ODRC imposes a new sentence by exercising its statutorily
    mandated power to review an inmate’s prison status following the imposition of the
    maximum term by the sentencing court.
    It is important to remember that the separation-of-powers doctrine,
    as derived from the federal Constitution, “has no express provision which prohibits
    the officials of one branch of government from exercising functions of the other
    branches.” Geraghty v. United States Parole Comm., 
    719 F.2d 1199
    , 1210 (3d
    Cir.1983), citing Springer v. Philippine Islands, 
    277 U.S. 189
    , 201, 
    48 S.Ct. 480
    , 
    72 L.Ed. 845
     (1928) (upholding parole determinations by the executive branch). “The
    Constitution does not require three airtight departments of government.” 
    Id.,
     citing
    Nixon v. Admr. of Gen. Servs., 
    433 U.S. 425
    , 443, 
    97 S.Ct. 2777
    , 
    53 L.Ed.2d 867
    (1977). “Ohio, unlike other jurisdictions, [also lacks] a constitutional provision
    specifying the concept of separation of powers * * *.” State v. Warner, 
    55 Ohio St.3d 31
    , 43-44, 
    564 N.E.2d 18
     (1990), citing State v. Harmon, 
    31 Ohio St. 250
     (1877), and
    State, ex rel. Bryant v. Akron Metro. Park Dist., 
    120 Ohio St. 464
     (1929). Similar
    to the federal Constitution, Ohio’s separation-of-powers doctrine “is implicitly
    embedded in the entire framework of those sections of the Ohio Constitution that
    define the substance and scope of powers granted to the three branches of state
    government.” 
    Id.
     There is no explicit rule prohibiting the delegation of authority as
    between the coequal branches of government. 
    Id.
    The defendants’ argument with respect to the separation of powers
    analogizes the Reagan Tokes Law’s indefinite, nonlife sentencing scheme to Ohio’s
    “bad time” law under former R.C. 2967.11, which provided the executive branch the
    power to keep a prisoner in jail beyond the sentence imposed by the trial court. State
    ex rel. Bray v. Russell, 
    89 Ohio St.3d 132
    , 
    729 N.E.2d 359
     (2000). In Bray’s
    situation, the trial court sentenced him to serve eight months in prison in the final
    entry of conviction. Id. at 133. During Bray’s incarceration, he assaulted a prison
    guard and the Ohio Parole Board imposed an additional 90-day term to be served
    following the conclusion of the judicially imposed, eight-month sentence. Id. It was
    the additional 90-day term that violated the separation-of-powers doctrine because
    only the judiciary has the power to impose a sentence. Id.
    It has long been understood that “‘when the power to sanction is
    delegated to the executive branch, a separation-of-powers problem is avoided if the
    sanction is originally imposed by a court and included in its sentence.’” State v.
    Ferguson, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 28644, 
    2020-Ohio-4153
    , ¶ 23; Hernandez v.
    Kelly, 
    108 Ohio St.3d 395
    , 
    2006-Ohio-126
    , 
    844 N.E.2d 301
    , ¶ 18-20; State v.
    Jordan, 
    104 Ohio St.3d 21
    , 
    2004-Ohio-6085
    , 
    817 N.E.2d 864
    , ¶ 19; Woods v. Telb,
    
    89 Ohio St.3d 504
    , 512-513, 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
     (2000). Under the sentencing scheme
    established by the Reagan Tokes Law, the judiciary imposes the sentence that is
    enforced by ODRC — in complete compliance with the separation-of-powers
    doctrine. Again, at the risk of belaboring the point, the defendants are unable to
    identify any statutory section that permits ODRC to “impose” a sentence beyond that
    which is imposed by the trial court. Simmons, 
    2021-Ohio-939
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 728
    , at
    ¶ 13; Wilburn, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    , 
    168 N.E.3d 873
    , at ¶ 26. This is fatal to their cause.
    The defendants’ claims blur the distinction between imposing a
    sentence and executing or, in statutory parlance, “maintaining,” the judicially
    imposed sentence. Understandably, the “bad time” law was deemed to violate the
    separation-of-powers doctrine because it divested the sentencing court of its
    authority to impose the final sentence. The executive branch was tasked with
    imposing a sentence beyond that which was imposed by the trial court. Simmons,
    Wilburn. R.C. 2929.144 shares nothing in common with the “bad time” law at issue
    in Bray. Any application of Bray to the indefinite, nonlife felony sentencing scheme
    is misplaced. Under R.C. 2929.144, the trial court imposes the maximum term in
    the final entry of conviction such that ODRC is merely tasked with implementation
    of the imposed sentence.      This complies with constitutional mandates.        “The
    determination of guilt in a criminal matter and the sentencing of a defendant
    convicted of a crime are solely the province of the judiciary.” (Emphasis added.)
    Bray, at 136, citing Peters, 43 Ohio St. at 648, 
    4 N.E. 81
    . Bray is not relevant to the
    current discussion.
    The Reagan Tokes Law does not violate any separation-of-powers
    safeguard because the executive branch has always possessed the authority to
    determine parole, parole revocation, or sentencing-release matters under an
    indefinite sentencing scheme after the trial court imposes the minimum and
    maximum terms. See R.C. 2967.12 and 2967.16 (executive branch authorized to
    grant final release of the offender following adherence to the terms of parole). R.C.
    2929.144, 2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a), and R.C. 2967.271 do not stray from the
    sentencing structure already in place under Ohio law.
    Keeping an offender in prison under R.C. 2929.144 past the minimum
    term is no different than keeping an offender in prison under an indefinite life
    sentence after the offender becomes eligible for parole. The executive branch’s
    decision releasing an offender from, or maintaining an offender in, an indefinite
    sentence has been part of the Ohio criminal justice system from time immemorial.
    McDougle v. Maxwell, 
    1 Ohio St.2d 68
    , 71, 
    203 N.E.2d 334
     (1964) (discussing the
    parole board’s unilateral authority to release an offender from the maximum
    indefinite sentence). According to the Ohio Supreme Court, “the granting and
    revocation of parole are matters traditionally handled by administrative officers.”
    Woods, 89 Ohio St.3d at 514, 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
    . The indefinite sentencing scheme
    enacted under the Reagan Tokes Law does not violate the separation-of-powers
    doctrine under either Ohio or federal law.
    c. Release determinations by the executive branch do not
    violate the right to a jury trial
    Further, R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) do not violate the right to a jury
    trial under Apprendi v. New Jersey, 
    530 U.S. 466
    , 
    120 S.Ct. 2348
    , 
    147 L.Ed.2d 435
    (2000), and Ring v. Arizona, 
    536 U.S. 584
    , 
    122 S.Ct. 2428
    , 
    153 L.Ed.2d 556
     (2002).
    Neither Simmons nor Wilburn addressed the defendant’s arguments with respect to
    Apprendi and an offender’s right to a jury trial, so this court sitting en banc must
    address that argument since it lies at the heart of the conflict between Gamble, 2021-
    Ohio-1810, 
    173 N.E.3d 132
    , at ¶ 41, and Delvallie, 
    2021-Ohio-1809
    , 
    173 N.E.3d 544
    ,
    at ¶ 32.
    The trial court, under R.C. 2929.144 and 2929.14, is statutorily
    required to impose the minimum and maximum terms upon the offender being
    found guilty of the qualifying felony offense — similar to an offender being sentenced
    to life with the possibility of parole under the indefinite life sentencing structure.
    The trial court lacks discretion to impose any term beyond the maximum under any
    provision of the Reagan Tokes Law. In Apprendi, the Supreme Court held that, in
    order to sentence a defendant to a term of imprisonment in excess of the statutory
    maximum, the factual circumstances justifying the enhanced sentence must be
    found by the jury beyond a reasonable doubt. Id.; see also Alleyne v. United States,
    
    570 U.S. 99
    , 
    133 S.Ct. 2151
    , 
    186 L.Ed.2d 314
     (2013). Alleyne is similar.
    In Alleyne, the Supreme Court concluded that the element of the
    offense included brandishing a firearm that raised the level of the offense from one
    subject to a 5-year term to one subject to a 7-year term, and therefore, brandishing
    a firearm was an element of the offense that must be determined by the trier of fact.
    Id. at 114. That conclusion is simply irrelevant to the Reagan Tokes Law. No
    provision under the Reagan Tokes Law authorizes a sentencing court, or ODRC for
    that matter, to impose a sentence beyond the maximum set forth in the sentencing
    statutes or to elevate the minimum term beyond the ranges set forth in R.C.
    2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a).      R.C. 2929.144 and 2929.14(A)(1)(a)-(A)(2)(a)
    provide no discretion to the trial court in imposing the maximum term based on the
    offender having pleaded or been found guilty of the underlying qualifying felony
    offense. The only discretion lies with the imposition of the minimum term, which is
    no different than the discretion to sentence within the definite sentencing range for
    nonqualifying felony offenses.
    In declaring R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) to be unconstitutional, the
    defendants heavily rely on Foster, 
    109 Ohio St.3d 1
    , 
    2006-Ohio-856
    , 
    845 N.E.2d 470
    , which is ironic in light of the lack of discussion of the severance doctrine at the
    heart of the Foster decision. In Foster, it was concluded that Ohio’s sentencing
    structure of permitting the trial court to impose a consecutive sentence resulting in
    a term of imprisonment beyond the minimum based on the issuance of findings
    violated Blakely v. Washington, 
    542 U.S. 296
    , 
    124 S.Ct. 2531
    , 
    159 L.Ed.2d 403
    (2004). Foster was superseded by Oregon v. Ice, 
    555 U.S. 160
    , 
    129 S.Ct. 711
    , 
    172 L.Ed.2d 517
     (2009), as recognized in State v. Sergent, 
    148 Ohio St.3d 94
    , 2016-
    Ohio-2696, 
    69 N.E.3d 627
    , ¶ 35. In Ice, the Supreme Court concluded that a state
    court’s discretion to impose consecutive sentences did not violate the right to a jury
    trial under the Sixth Amendment because throughout history the jury played no role
    in that sentencing decision. Ice at 167-168. The sole limitation was that a trial court
    cannot impose a sentence “beyond the prescribed statutory maximum” based on
    consideration and determination of facts not considered by the jury. Id. at 167.
    “Instead, specification of the regime for administering multiple sentences has long
    been considered the prerogative of state legislatures[,]” even those prerogatives that
    in effect lengthen the offender’s sentence. Id. at 168. The rationale underlying
    Foster’s decision to declare the finding requirement for consecutive sentencing to be
    unconstitutional, which was based on the notion that the consecutive sentence
    increased the offender’s minimum prison time, did not stand the test of time.
    Any reliance on Foster seems to focus on the claim that any
    consideration of facts not determined by the trier of fact violates Apprendi per se.
    There is no basis for that conclusion under Ohio or federal law. In fact, Ohio’s
    sentencing structure in general depends on judicial consideration of facts beyond
    that which is considered by the trier of fact. R.C. 2929.11; 2929.12; 2929.14
    (providing for a sentencing range upon nonqualifying felony offenses). Under the
    defendants’ broadly stated rationale, therefore, Ohio would be returned to the pre-
    Oregon v. Ice days in which any and all sentencing considerations violate the
    offender’s constitutional rights, and such a conclusion would necessarily impact
    Ohio’s complete sentencing structure that relies on judicial determinations to
    sentence within ranges.
    Again, the trial court must impose a minimum and a maximum
    indefinite term under R.C. 2929.14 and 2929.144. The only discretion lies with the
    length of the minimum term, and therefore, the trial court is not imposing a
    sentence “in excess of the maximum” term as expressly prohibited under Apprendi.
    And the trial court is also not imposing a sentence beyond the minimum term
    prescribed by statute based on any findings of facts. Any discussion of sentencing
    discretion to impose a term that exceeds the minimum term can only be based on
    the overturned rationale espoused in Foster.        Accordingly, that argument is
    misplaced.
    Neither R.C. 2929.144 nor 2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a) run afoul of
    Apprendi or its progeny. Despite this, it has been suggested that the plurality
    decision in United States v. Haymond, 588 U.S.___, 
    139 S.Ct. 2369
    , 2373, 
    204 L.Ed.2d 897
     (2019), supports application of Apprendi to R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D).
    In Haymond, however, the defendant was convicted of possessing child
    pornography, for which the district judge imposed an indefinite prison term of zero
    to 10 years under 18 U.S.C. 2252(b)(2) and a period of supervised release of between
    5 years and life under 18 U.S.C. 3583(k). 
    Id. at 2373
    . During the period of
    supervised release, the defendant was found in possession of child pornography. 
    Id.
    In addition to returning the offender to serve the original sentence, the trial court
    imposed a new mandatory minimum term of 5 years under 18 U.S.C. 3583(k) —
    making the sentence 5 to 10 years instead of the zero to 10 years originally imposed.
    It was the resentencing under the aggravating factor that the Supreme Court
    declared unconstitutional in violation of Apprendi principles since a jury did not
    make the additional finding of fact to authorize an enhanced minimum term. 
    Id. at 2378
    . Importantly, the Supreme Court did not declare that retaining the inmate in
    prison during the zero to 10-year indefinite term originally imposed implicated
    constitutional concerns but, instead, relied on the fact that the minimum term of
    imprisonment was increased based on a finding of fact that occurred in the
    postconviction process. 
    Id.
    Haymond does not stand for the proposition that a state court cannot
    impose an indefinite sentence based on the executive branch’s parole or release
    determinations. Any offender sentenced upon a qualifying felony must receive a
    minimum term under R.C. 2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a), and a maximum term
    under R.C. 2929.144. To place that in perspective, such a sentence is equivalent to
    the original sentence imposed in the Haymond case, a sentence that was not
    questioned by the Supreme Court or by any party to the case. Any reliance on
    Haymond is misplaced.
    R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) do not violate Apprendi or its progeny.
    d. Defendants’ final claim that R.C. 2967.271 fails to provide
    the full panoply of trial rights is contrary to black-letter
    law
    The defendants’ last claim deals with R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D).
    According to the defendants, R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D), which provide offenders
    with the right to a hearing before imposition of the maximum term imposed under
    R.C. 2929.144, has not provided the full panoply of constitutional rights afforded to
    a defendant in the criminal process, an issue left unaddressed in both Simmons and
    Wilburn and first arising in the conflict created by Gamble and Delvallie.
    In support of that claim, the defendants in Gamble, Delvallie, and
    Daniel in particular, provide a single paragraph of analysis:
    Finally, while R.C. 2967.271 provides for a hearing before the
    additional prison time is imposed, the statute provides no structure as
    to how the hearing will be conducted or what rights the defendant will
    have at a hearing. Fourteenth Amendment due process as well as the
    Sixth Amendment and Article I, Section 10 of the Ohio Constitution
    recognize certain core rights as fundamental to the trial process. In
    addition to the right to trial by jury (discussed in Part II, and
    incorporated herein), these trial rights include:
    • The presumption of innocence and the requirement that proof
    by the prosecution rise to the level of proof beyond a reasonable
    doubt. In re Winship, 
    397 U.S. 358
    , 
    90 S.Ct. 106
    , 
    825 L.Ed.2d 368
     (1970).
    • The right to counsel and to the appointment of counsel if
    indigent. Gideon v. Wainwright, 
    372 U.S. 335
    , 
    83 S.Ct. 792
    , 
    9 L.Ed.2d 799
     (1963).
    • The right to confront witnesses. Crawford v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
    , 52, 
    124 S.Ct. 1354
    , 
    158 L.Ed.2d 177
     (2004).
    • The right to call witnesses and require their presence via
    subpoena. Washington v. Texas, 388 U.S.14, 
    87 S.Ct. 1920
    , 
    18 L.Ed.2d 1019
     (1967).
    • The right to offer testimony. In re Oliver, 
    333 U.S. 257
    , 
    68 S.Ct. 499
    , 
    92 L.Ed. 682
     (1948).
    Nowhere in the statute are these rights enunciated. Nor is there an
    applicable provision in the Ohio Administrative Code that the defense
    has been able to locate that expressly applies to these proceedings.
    The premise of the defendants’ due process claim is misplaced.
    It has never been concluded that inmates are due preconviction
    constitutional rights during enforcement of judicially imposed sentences.
    Morrissey v. Brewer, 
    408 U.S. 471
    , 480, 
    92 S.Ct. 2593
    , 
    33 L.Ed.2d 484
     (1972)
    (hereinafter “Morrissey”) (“We begin with the proposition that the revocation of
    parole is not part of a criminal prosecution and thus the full panoply of rights due a
    defendant in such a proceeding does not apply”); Rose v. Haskins, 
    21 Ohio St.2d 94
    ,
    95, 
    255 N.E.2d 260
     (1970); State ex rel. Sweet v. Capots, 10th Dist. Franklin No.
    93AP-340, 
    1993 Ohio App. LEXIS 5200
    , 9 (Oct. 26, 1993). Importantly, and despite
    the defendants’ claims to the contrary, there is no inherent right to counsel during a
    parole revocation hearing, which is analogous to the maximum-term hearing
    according to the defendants who extensively claimed as much during oral argument
    on this matter. State ex rel. Marsh v. Tibbals, 
    149 Ohio St.3d 656
    , 
    2017-Ohio-829
    ,
    
    77 N.E.3d 909
    , ¶ 26.
    The Reagan Tokes Law is not unconstitutional based on the claims
    presented by the defendants.
    III.   The dissents’ conclusions do not provide a basis to declare
    the Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional in its entirety
    Having addressed the merits of the arguments presented by the
    defendants, our analysis generally would be complete. The dissents build upon the
    panel discussions in Delvallie, Sealey, and Daniel to essentially claim that R.C.
    2967.271(C) and (D) must either enumerate the rights afforded to an inmate during
    the maximum-term hearing or include an express delegation of authority to the
    executive branch to promulgate the rules. In the absence of either, according to the
    dissents, the statute is unconstitutional and any sentencing under R.C 2929.144
    (maximum term) and R.C. 2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a) (minimum term) must be
    declared void.    Neither the Ohio nor federal Constitution mandates such a
    requirement. This issue, solely based on Morrissey, was raised in Delvallie, Daniel,
    and Sealey and, therefore, should be addressed inasmuch as the en banc’s resolution
    in favor of the constitutional validity of the Reagan Tokes Law overrules those
    decisions. Since appellate courts are required to provide reasons in support of a
    decision under App.R. 12(A)(1)(c), an explanation behind vacating Delvallie, Daniel,
    and Sealey is required.
    In Morrissey, the Supreme Court set forth the minimum
    requirements required at a parole revocation hearing, again the existing sentencing
    structure the defendants claimed to be applicable to the Reagan Tokes Law.
    Although Delvallie, Daniel, and Sealey present a thorough discussion of the creation
    of a liberty interest, we need not entertain that discussion. See, e.g., Sealey, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 109670, 
    2021-Ohio-1949
    , at ¶ 11-20. Because this is a facial challenge
    to a statute, whether a liberty interest exists over an inmate’s right to be released
    from a prison term is not relevant to the constitutional validity of the conviction
    itself because that liberty interest does not arise until after the offender is sentenced
    and his conviction deemed final. Morrissey at 480. “[T]he minimum requirements
    of due process,” upon determining the existence of a liberty interest in an inmate’s
    release from a prison term, include the following for parole revocation proceedings:
    (a) written notice of the claimed violations of parole; (b) disclosure to
    the parolee of evidence against him; (c) opportunity to be heard in
    person and to present witnesses and documentary evidence; (d) the
    right to confront and cross-examine adverse witnesses (unless the
    hearing officer specifically finds good cause for not allowing
    confrontation); (e) a “neutral and detached” hearing body such as a
    traditional parole board, members of which need not be judicial officers
    or lawyers; and (f) a written statement by the factfinders as to the
    evidence relied on and reasons for revoking parole.
    Morrissey, 
    408 U.S. at 489
    . Any violation of Morrissey requires a court of review
    to remand the matter for a hearing to be conducted in conformity with the
    procedural requirements. 5 State ex rel. Womack v. Sloan, 
    152 Ohio St.3d 32
    , 2017-
    Ohio-8708, 
    92 N.E.3d 836
    , ¶ 6, citing Scarberry v. Turner, 
    139 Ohio St.3d 111
    , 2014-
    Ohio-1587, 
    9 N.E.3d 1022
    , ¶ 13 (“[t]he remedy for an alleged Morrissey due-process
    violation is a new hearing, not immediate release from confinement.”). Further, the
    legislature may delegate policy-making or rulemaking authority to an executive
    agency in compliance with all constitutional requirements. Morrissey at 490.
    According to Morrissey, if “the procedures followed by the Parole Board are found
    to meet the standards laid down in this opinion that, too, would dispose of the due
    process claims for these cases.” (Emphasis added.) Id.; see also Sealey at ¶ 41;
    Daniel, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109583, 
    2021-Ohio-1963
    , at ¶ 41. Both Sealey and
    Daniel at ¶ 41, recognize that the legislature may delegate authority to ODRC to draft
    the procedural rules to satisfy Morrissey, but disregard the legislature’s delegation
    of authority under R.C. 5120.01 to accomplish the task.
    5 The question left unanswered by this en banc proceeding in which this court is
    solely considering the constitutional validity of the sentences imposed under the Reagan
    Tokes Law, and not the procedures with which ODRC conducts its maximum term
    hearings in carrying out the sentence as imposed by the trial court, is whether ODRC
    Policy 105-PBD-15 provides the minimum procedural protections afforded under
    Morrissey. See Section IV. below. In light of the fact that the remedy provided by a
    Morrissey violation is limited to a remand for a constitutionally adequate hearing
    process, as opposed to vacating the sentence, we need not address the question of whether
    ODRC’s maximum term hearing policy is constitutionally sound. That answer does not
    impact the validity of the imposed sentence. The Morrissey question will be left for a later
    date when properly raised by the inmate in the proper jurisdiction. 
    Id.
    Any reliance on Morrissey to declare the Reagan Tokes Law
    unconstitutional and to preclude sentencing under R.C. 2929.144 and
    2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a) is misplaced, and as discussed in further detail
    below, is premature since the remedy for a Morrissey violation is to remand for a
    hearing in compliance with the Supreme Court’s guidance, not to vacate the
    sentence or to declare the entire law unconstitutional. Sloan at ¶ 6.
    The issue must be addressed in terms of the delegation of authority to
    ODRC to provide the procedural rules and safeguards as required under R.C.
    2967.271 and 5120.01. In other words, inasmuch as the panels in Sealey and Daniel
    argued that R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) are silent as to the Morrissey procedural
    requirements of the maximum-term hearing, the question that poses is whether the
    legislature has properly delegated its authority to craft the procedural safeguards to
    ODRC rendering R.C. 2967.271 facially constitutional. See O’Neal v. State, 2020-
    Ohio-506, 
    146 N.E.3d 605
    , ¶ 32 (10th Dist.) (defendant challenged the legislature’s
    delegation of authority to ODRC to draft its policy), aff’d by O’Neal v. State, Slip
    Opinion No. 
    2021-Ohio-3663
    . To ignore the delegation of authority principles at
    play with respect to the Morrissey analysis cannot be described as anything short of
    an attempt to hide an elephant in a mousehole. See State ex rel. Hogan Lovells U.S.,
    L.L.P. v. Ohio Dept. of Rehab. & Corr., Slip Opinion No. 
    2021-Ohio-1762
    , ¶ 71, citing
    Whitman v. Am. Trucking Assns., Inc., 
    531 U.S. 457
    , 468, 
    121 S.Ct. 903
    , 
    149 L.Ed.2d 1
     (2001).
    a. Neither the Reagan Tokes Law nor R.C. 2967.271 violates
    a prisoner’s due process rights because the legislature has
    delegated authority to ODRC to provide the Morrissey
    safeguards
    By and large, S.B. 201 was not created out of whole cloth. The
    legislature borrowed from other aspects of the Ohio Revised Code to craft the
    indefinite sentences and the release determinations. In the broad push to declare
    the Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional or unenforceable, it is easy to lose sight of
    the havoc that such a conclusion would bring to every other aspect of the sentencing
    and sentencing enforcement laws and regulations, which rely on the same process
    and procedures codified as part of the Reagan Tokes Law. In light of the Sealey and
    Daniel conclusions that R.C. 2967.271 violates Morrissey, the first question in need
    of resolution is whether the legislature can delegate authority to ODRC through R.C.
    2967.271 to draft the procedural safeguards mandated under Morrissey.
    The short answer is it can, and ODRC complied. R.C. 5120.01; ODRC
    Policy 105-PBD-15, Section F, available at https://drc.ohio.gov/policies/parole-
    board (last visited Nov. 11, 2021). Under that delegation of authority, ODRC may be
    authorized to establish rules and policies given the agency’s experience and on-the-
    ground presence. Nix The “Fix”: An Analysis On Ohio’s Criminal Sentencing Law
    And Its Effect On Prison Population, 47 Cap.U.L.Rev. 755, 786 (2019); Cleveland
    Metro. Bar Assn. v. Davie, 
    133 Ohio St.3d 202
    , 
    2012-Ohio-4328
    , 
    977 N.E.2d 606
    ,
    ¶ 42 (citing ODRC policy).
    No constitutional provision requires the legislature to expressly set
    forth each and every right afforded to an offender at every stage of proceedings
    created by statutory process. AMOCO v. Petroleum Underground Storage Tank
    Release Comp. Bd., 
    89 Ohio St.3d 477
    , 480, 
    2000-Ohio-224
    , 
    733 N.E.2d 592
     (the
    General Assembly may delegate rulemaking authority to an executive agency); State
    v. Schreckengost, 
    30 Ohio St.2d 30
    , 32, 
    282 N.E.2d 50
     (1972); O’Neal, 2020-Ohio-
    506, 
    146 N.E.3d 605
    , at ¶ 50 (10th Dist.) (“the General Assembly constitutionally
    may delegate authority to promulgate rules, policies, and regulations to subordinate
    boards and agencies”), citing Princeton City School Dist. Bd. of Edn. v. Ohio State
    Bd. of Edn., 
    96 Ohio App.3d 558
    , 560, 
    645 N.E.2d 773
     (1st Dist.1994), and Belden,
    
    143 Ohio St. at 342
    , 
    55 N.E.2d 629
    . For that, the legislature is free to delegate
    authority to the executive branch. Warner, 55 Ohio St.3d at 43-44, 
    564 N.E.2d 18
    ,
    citing Harmon, 
    31 Ohio St. 250
    , and State, ex rel. Bryant, 
    120 Ohio St. 464
    .
    In Sealey, for example, the panel relied on Wilkinson v. Austin, 
    545 U.S. 209
    , 226, 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
     (2005), and Wolff v. McDonnell, 
    418 U.S. 539
    , 563, 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
     (1974), in particular to demonstrate the
    existence of a liberty interest. Sealey, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109670, 2021-Ohio-
    1949, at ¶ 12-14. That reliance, however, fails to address the fact that both cases
    involved reviewing the rules or policies established by the executive agency in
    separate actions initiated under 42 U.S.C. 1983. See generally Wilkinson and Wolff.
    In other words, in both cases, the Supreme Court was reviewing policies and
    procedures of an executive agency for constitutional compliance. In Wilkinson, in
    the habeas corpus petitions brought by several inmates, the Supreme Court
    reviewed two versions of ODRC Policy 111-07 (Aug. 31, 1998). Wilkinson at 215. In
    Wolff, on behalf of himself and other inmates of the Nebraska Penal and
    Correctional Complex, Lincoln, Nebraska, an inmate filed a complaint under 42
    U.S.C. 1983 challenging several of the practices, rules, and regulations of the
    complex. Wolff at 542. As both of those cases teach, the legislature is not required
    to codify all rules and procedures under the statutory provision but instead can defer
    to the executive agency’s establishment of its own rules or procedures to safeguard
    constitutional concerns, which must be challenged through the appropriate
    mechanisms.
    Although R.C. 2967.271 omits language authorizing ODRC to draft
    rules and procedures for the maximum-term hearings, the drafters are presumed to
    understand the entirety of the Revised Code. Under R.C. 5120.01, “all duties”
    conferred upon ODRC by the legislature “shall be performed under the rules and
    regulations that the director prescribes.” The use of the term “policy” by ODRC will
    be discussed in greater detail below. That said, R.C. 2967.271 “does not exist in a
    vacuum. It is a creature of the Revised Code, it is subservient to the Revised Code,
    and it necessarily incorporates the Revised Code.” Bibler v. Stevenson, 
    150 Ohio St.3d 144
    , 
    2016-Ohio-8449
    , 
    80 N.E.3d 424
    , ¶ 15.          Thus, the drafters have a
    presumed awareness of R.C. 5120.01 and the requirement that any statutory process
    creating a duty for ODRC to undertake must have procedures established to carry
    out the function. It need not be reiterated throughout every other statutory section
    creating an obligation for ODRC to act, although such a redundancy could be
    considered a “best practices” approach to avoid the necessity of scouring the Revised
    Code for the enabling language. See, e.g., O’Neal at ¶ 31; State v. Tanner, 2d Dist.
    Clark No. 2020-CA-9, 
    2020-Ohio-5413
    , ¶ 17; State v. Emch, 9th Dist. Summit No.
    20372, 
    2002-Ohio-3861
    , ¶ 21.
    But such an approach is unnecessary. The Revised Code contains
    other sections that provide neither the express procedures for conducting a hearing
    nor an express delegation of authority for the executive branch to promulgate those
    policies, rules, or procedures. For example, under R.C. 2971.04, the legislature has
    tasked the parole board to conduct a hearing to determine whether to terminate
    control over the offender after the offender has served the minimum term under
    R.C. 2971.03 (sentencing of sexually violent offender with predator specification).
    R.C. 2971.04. Contrary to the dissent’s assertion otherwise, R.C. 2971.04 is silent as
    to any delegation of authority to promulgate rules, regulations, or policies detailing
    the procedures or means of carrying out the hearing, similar to R.C. 2967.271. The
    only express delegation of authority within R.C. 2971.04(A) is found in the
    declaration that the parole board may follow ODRC’s guidelines as established
    under R.C. 5120.49 for the purposes of the parole board making its determination
    following the hearing. Under R.C. 5120.49, ODRC “by rule adopted under Chapter
    119. of the Revised Code, shall prescribe standards and guidelines to be used by the
    parole board in determining * * *” whether to terminate the parole board’s control
    over the indefinite term. As far as establishing the hearing procedures themselves
    with the plain language of the statute, R.C. 2971.04(A) does not include all due
    process procedural requirements; only the inmate’s right to present evidence before
    the parole board is statutorily established.6 No other Morrissey requirement was
    mandated, such as the written conclusions in support of the denial of release and
    the disclosure of the contents of the risk assessment report submitted directly to the
    parole board.
    Despite the lack of express delegation of policy-making authority
    under R.C. 2971.04 to establish all missing procedural requirements for the hearing
    itself, ODRC has promulgated ODRC Policy 105-PBD-11, for the express purpose of
    “establish[ing] a standard procedure for the parole board to efficiently and
    consistently carry out its duties pursuant to Ohio Revised Code (ORC) section
    2971.04.” As part of that policy, the ODRC has promulgated the specific hearing
    procedures, beyond simply permitting the inmate to present evidence, controlling
    the means and manner in which the hearing occurs. This includes a provision that
    permits the inmate’s counsel to be present during the hearing, among other
    6 Thus, if the dissent’s assertion that R.C. 2971.04 contains an express delegation
    of authority based on the presence of one of the six Morrissey requirements, then R.C.
    2967.271 should also pass constitutional muster according to the dissent’s theory. Under
    R.C. 2967.271(C), the ODRC undertakes the hearing to decide the release question
    through its parole board based on evidence presented to the inmate from the prison
    infraction process. Morrissey, 
    408 U.S. at 489
    . ODRC and its parole board have
    traditionally been considered a “neutral and detached” hearing body such that R.C.
    2967.271(C) at least contains an express delegation of authority satisfying less than all of
    the Morrissey requirements, similar to R.C. 2971.04 that contains the requirement of the
    inmate’s presence to present evidence at the hearing. Woods, 89 Ohio St.3d at 514, 2000-
    Ohio-171, 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
    .
    procedures not covered under the express language of the statute, a provision not
    expressly required under R.C. 2971.04. ODRC Policy 105-PBD-11 VI. E.
    This is similar to the legislature’s decision in drafting R.C. 2967.271 to
    permit ODRC to draft the Morrissey procedures under the general grant of authority
    under R.C. 5120.01 required to implement R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D), as contrasted
    against the legislature’s specific requirement that ODRC promulgate rules under
    R.C. 2967.271(F) (the director of ODRC “by rule shall specify both of the following
    for offenders serving a non-life felony indefinite prison term * * *.”). Both R.C.
    2967.271 and 2971.04 follow the same pattern. The legislature is presumed to
    understand the law, and under Morrissey, there is no requirement for the legislature
    or the executive branch to codify statutory or administrative rules in enacting
    procedures compliant with the Morrissey guidelines. Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 228
    ,
    
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
     (holding that Ohio’s “new policy” promulgated
    under ODRC Policy 111-07 provided constitutionally valid procedures ensuring the
    protection of the inmate’s liberty interest).
    Since R.C. 2971.04 is similar to R.C. 2967.271 in that there are no
    express guidelines provided by the legislature and no express delegation of policy-
    making authority to establish the hearing procedures, R.C. 2971.04 is potentially
    impacted under the dissents’ stated rationale for declaring R.C. 2967.271 to be
    unconstitutional and contrary to the unanimous conclusions reached by the
    Supreme Court in Wilkinson. It is for this reason that constitutional challenges must
    be narrow and precise. The damage caused by broad theories as advanced in
    Delvallie, Sealey, and Daniel could be devastating as more statutes must fall prey to
    the overly broad constitutional analysis.
    Furthermore, the net effect of the conclusions reached in the
    dissenting opinions, if those were to be adopted by this court, is a declaration that
    the Ohio legislature may not delegate authority to the executive agency through
    separate provisions of the Ohio Revised Code, but must instead provide detailed
    rules and policies within the statutory section that creates the particular process,
    otherwise that statutory provision is unconstitutional. Beyond the damage to other
    statutory sections, such a broad declaration is in essence declaring that R.C. 5120.01
    is a nullity, invalidating other policies that guide the ODRC’s substantive
    responsibilities over tasks mandated by law: Clemency Procedure: Death Penalty
    Cases (105-PBD-01) (“The purpose of this policy is to establish a standard procedure
    for considering clemency in death penalty cases.”); Kellogg Hearings (105-PBD-02)
    (“The purpose of this policy is to establish a standard procedure for providing
    mitigation hearings to those recommissioned offenders affected by the consent
    decree in Kellogg, et al. v. Shoemaker, et al., (1996), 927 F. Supp 244.”); Parole
    Board Release Consideration Hearings (105-PBD-03) (“The purpose of this policy is
    to foster consistent parole board hearing procedures designed to promote public
    confidence and safety, as well as fair and objective decision-making, and to establish
    procedures for transferring eligible inmates to transitional control.”); Request for
    Reconsideration and Amendments to Parole Board Actions (105-PBD-04) (“The
    purpose of this policy is to institute a fair and equitable process for the
    reconsideration of Parole Board decisions and the amendment of Parole Board
    actions.”); Clemency Procedure: Non-Death Penalty Cases (105-PBD-05) (“The
    purpose of this policy is to establish a standard procedure for the application,
    processing, review, hearing and decision-making steps of the clemency process in
    non-death penalty cases.”); Full Board Hearing (105-PBD-06); Post Release Control
    Screening and Assessment (105-PBD-08) (“The purpose of this policy is to establish
    uniform guidelines and procedures for assessing offenders for post release control
    (PRC); imposing conditions of PRC supervision; and reducing the duration of
    supervision.”); Violation Hearing Process (105-PBD-09); Sexually Violent Predators
    (105-PBD-11); Statutory Notice (105-PBD-13); 80% Court Release (105-PBD-14);
    Additional Term Hearing (105-PBD-15) — all of which are solely promulgated under
    R.C. 5120.01. Available at https://drc.ohio.gov/policies/parole-board.
    On this latter point, much emphasis is placed on Morrissey, 
    408 U.S. at 489
    , as it pertains to Ohio’s parole revocation statute, R.C. 2967.15, and that
    section’s compliance with the Morrissey requirements. Morrissey itself does not
    even require the legislature to codify the procedural details, nor does it require the
    executive agency to formally draft rules in compliance with Morrissey. See, e.g.,
    Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 224
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , quoting Morrissey (“Because the
    requirements of due process are ‘flexible and cal[l] for such procedural protections
    as the particular situation demands,’ we generally have declined to establish rigid
    rules and instead have embraced a framework to evaluate the sufficiency of
    particular procedures.”).   After opining that a state’s statutory standards may
    provide the constitutional compliance with the Morrissey decision, the Supreme
    Court also concluded that “if the procedures followed by the Parole Board are found
    to meet the standards laid down in this opinion that, too, would dispose of the due
    process claims for these cases.” (Emphasis added.) Morrissey, 
    408 U.S. at 490
    .
    Thus, the Supreme Court acknowledges that the executive agency’s policies or
    procedures may satisfy due process concerns in addition to the statutory procedures,
    and those types of policy in Ohio arise from the legislature’s delegation of authority
    to the executive branch.
    Morrissey does not stand for the proposition that the legislature needs
    to codify the procedural protections into an unmalleable statutory scheme. On the
    contrary, “once it is determined that the Due Process Clause applies, ‘the question
    remains what process is due.’ The answer to that question is not to be found in the
    Ohio statute.” Cleveland Bd. of Edn. v. Loudermill, 
    470 U.S. 532
    , 541, 
    105 S.Ct. 1487
    , L.Ed.2d 494 (1985), quoting Morrissey. This is because Morrissey speaks of
    the procedural requirements in general terms and not to any specific state statutory
    requirements.       Witzke   v.   Pullins-Govantes,    
    397 F.Supp.3d 975
    ,   980
    (E.D.Mich.2019); Gonzalez v. Fife, W.D.Wash. No. C07-5278, 
    2008 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 46956
    , at 23-24 (June 17, 2008), citing Morrissey (finding statutory
    procedures inadequate is not a finding that the statute is invalid based on
    Morrissey).     Although the constitutional protections can be enacted through
    statutory language, there is no requirement to do so. See, e.g., Kell v. United States
    Parole Comm., 
    26 F.3d 1016
    , 1022 (10th Cir.1994) (concluding that the statutes and
    federal regulations were not violated and that no additional protections were
    afforded under Morrissey); Vanes v. United States Parole Comm., 
    741 F.2d 1197
    ,
    1199 (9th Cir.1984) (noting that the Morrissey protections were prescribed by
    statute, regulation, and local procedures).
    We do not and cannot review the constitutional validity of statutes in
    a vacuum, especially when the challenged provisions rely on statutory language and
    procedures codified throughout the Revised Code. R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) do not
    contain the policies and procedures under which the maximum-term hearings will
    be conducted. As discussed above, nothing requires the legislature to provide this
    detail. See R.C. 2967.15. In deeming R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) constitutionally
    infirm, the panels in Delvallie, Sealey, and Daniel have tacitly declared that the
    legislature cannot delegate authority to an executive agency or that the legislature is
    required to codify the details of any statutorily created hearing process.
    Since Morrissey does not preclude the legislature from delegating
    authority to ODRC to promulgate the Morrissey procedural safeguards in lieu of
    codifying the procedures within the statutory text or through a formal
    administrative rulemaking or policy-making process, the next question involves the
    impact of ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 on R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) on Delvallie,
    Sealey, and Daniel’s conclusions.
    b. Administrative rules or policies, like statutes and
    ordinances, have the force of law and must be
    independently challenged
    ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 was expressly promulgated under R.C.
    5120.01 and, therefore, must be considered as filling in the legislative gaps left by
    R.C. 2967.271. Rodriguez v. United States Parole Comm., 
    594 F.2d 170
    , 173 (7th
    Cir.1979); O’Neal, Slip Opinion No. 
    2021-Ohio-3663
    , ¶ 57, quoting Northwestern
    Ohio Bldg. & Constr. Trades Council v. Conrad, 
    92 Ohio St.3d 282
    , 289, 
    750 N.E.2d 130
     (2001). When the legislature delegates authority to an agency instead of
    codifying the rule itself, the resulting administrative rule or regulation is an
    extension of the statute for all intents and purposes. Rodriguez at 173; O’Neal at
    ¶ 57. The dissent gives an undue weight to the fact that Rodriguez relied on the word
    “rule” rather than “policy.” First and foremost, Ohio draws no distinction between
    the legal enforcement of an administrative rule as compared to a policy. O’Neal at
    ¶ 59 (“the great majority of directives that agencies issue, whether formally
    promulgated or not, fill in legislative gaps by solving matters that have not been
    specified by statutes.”). But regardless, in Rodriguez, for example, the federal court
    was determining whether an administrative regulation enacted by the Parole
    Commission during the inmate’s incarceration could be retroactively applied against
    the habeas petitioner. Id. at 173. The regulation at issue was enacted under the now
    repealed 18 U.S.C. 4203(a)(1), which was similar to R.C. 5120.01 in that the
    legislature authorized the administrative body “to adopt ‘rules and regulations’ as
    are necessary to carry out a national parole policy.” Id.
    R.C. 5120.01 authorizes ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 under ODRC’s
    authority to promulgate “rules and regulations.” Although ODRC Policy 105-PBD-
    15 is self-described as a policy, the Ohio Supreme Court does not draw a distinction
    between an administrative rule and a policy enacted through R.C. 5120.01 for the
    purposes of reviewing the policy. In Davie, 
    133 Ohio St.3d 202
    , 
    2012-Ohio-4328
    ,
    
    977 N.E.2d 606
    , at ¶ 42, for example, the Ohio Supreme Court was discussing ODRC
    Policy 105-PBD-06(VI)(E)(4) (eff. July 8, 2011), which authorized a non-attorney
    representative to communicate with the parole board orally and in writing on behalf
    of another inmate. Id. at ¶ 39. Importantly for our purposes, in reference to ODRC
    policy, the Ohio Supreme Court concluded that neither a statute nor an
    “administrative rule” could override the Ohio Supreme Court’s authority over the
    regulation of attorney conduct.      Id. at ¶ 40. Thus, the Ohio Supreme Court
    concluded that ODRC policy, treated as an administrative rule, could not override
    its authority over the practice of law, instead of simply declaring that a policy issued
    under R.C. 5120.01 is of no legal force or effect.
    We cannot draw any conclusions from ODRC’s chosen nomenclature,
    especially since R.C. 5120.01 expressly authorizes ODRC to draft “rules or
    regulations” governing “all duties” conferred upon ODRC by the legislature. For our
    purposes, the use of the term “administrative policy” is synonymous with
    “administrative rule” for the purposes of Morrissey, although there are different
    requirements for enactment of rules or policies. To conclude otherwise simply
    elevates form over substance at the expense of Supreme Court precedent. See
    Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 228
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
     (holding that Ohio’s
    “new policy” promulgated under ODRC Policy 111-07 provided constitutionally valid
    procedures ensuring the protection of the inmate’s liberty interest despite the lack
    of a statutorily codified procedure). Since Sealey and Daniel, in particular, both rely
    on Morrissey, the sole concern is whether ODRC promulgated the procedures
    satisfying the guidelines set forth therein. Morrissey does not require a statutory
    procedure or one promulgated through formal agency rulemaking.
    Accordingly, as the Tenth District has concluded, “[a]dministrative
    policies are a means of accomplishing a legislative end.” (Emphasis added.) O’Neal,
    
    2020-Ohio-506
    , 
    146 N.E.3d 605
    , at ¶ 33 (10th Dist.), quoting Burden v. Ohio Dept.
    of Job & Family Servs., 10th Dist. Franklin No. 11AP-832, 
    2012-Ohio-1552
    , ¶ 21, and
    Doyle v. Ohio Bur. of Motor Vehicles, 
    51 Ohio St.3d 46
    , 47, 
    554 N.E.2d 97
     (1990).7
    When agencies promulgate policies and regulations to fill legislative
    gaps, “courts * * * must give due deference to an administrative
    interpretation formulated by an agency that has accumulated
    substantial expertise, and to which the General Assembly has delegated
    the responsibility of implementing the legislative command.”
    7  While concerns about enactments by rule, regulation, or policy may be relevant
    for a detailed procedure involving the imposition of capital punishment and the protocols
    surrounding it, any questions involving the enactment of ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15
    ultimately go to what due process that policy affords inmates. No defendant to date has
    challenged the enactment of ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 on any grounds, constitutional or
    otherwise.
    (Emphasis added.) 
    Id.,
     quoting Northwestern Ohio Bldg. & Constr. Trades Council,
    92 Ohio St.3d at 287, and Swallow v. Indus. Comm. of Ohio, 
    36 Ohio St.3d 55
    , 57,
    
    521 N.E.2d 778
     (1988).
    ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 need not be formally adopted as a “rule” in
    order to fill the gaps left by R.C. 2971.271(C)-(D). O’Neal at ¶ 33. As was expressly
    concluded in O’Neal, “[p]olicies promulgated by administrative agencies are valid
    and enforceable * * *” under the executive agency’s rulemaking authority.
    (Emphasis added.) O’Neal, at ¶ 34, 51, citing Williams v. Spitzer Autoworld Canton,
    L.L.C., 
    122 Ohio St.3d 546
    , 
    2009-Ohio-3554
    , 
    913 N.E.2d 410
    , ¶ 18, and Hoffman v.
    State Med. Bd. of Ohio, 
    113 Ohio St.3d 376
    , 
    2007-Ohio-2201
    , 
    865 N.E.2d 1259
    , ¶ 17.
    “‘[T]he power of an administrative agency to administer a * * * program necessarily
    requires the formulation of policy and the making of rules to fill any gap left,
    implicitly or explicitly, by the legislature.’” O’Neal at ¶ 33, quoting Northwestern at
    287, and Morton v. Ruiz, 
    415 U.S. 199
    , 231, 
    94 S.Ct. 1055
    , 
    39 L.Ed.2d 270
     (1974).
    Without the policies or rules, ODRC would be derelict in failing to administer its
    obligations under both R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) and R.C. 5120.01. When executive
    or administrative agencies establish policies or regulations “to fill legislative gaps,
    ‘courts * * * must give due deference to an administrative interpretation formulated
    by an agency that has accumulated substantial expertise, and to which the General
    Assembly has delegated the responsibility of implementing the legislative
    command.’” 
    Id.,
     quoting Northwestern at 289 and Swallow, 36 Ohio St.3d at 57,
    
    521 N.E.2d 778
    .
    The Tenth District’s conclusions in O’Neal were affirmed by the Ohio
    Supreme Court. “‘As the United States Supreme Court has noted, “[t]he power of an
    administrative agency to administer a * * * program necessarily requires the
    formulation of policy and the making of rules to fill any gap left, implicitly or
    explicitly,” by the legislature.’” (Emphasis added.) O’Neal, Slip Opinion No. 2021-
    Ohio-3663, at ¶ 57, quoting Northwestern at 289, and Morton v. Ruiz, 
    415 U.S. 199
    ,
    231, 
    94 S.Ct. 1055
    , 
    39 L.Ed.2d 270
     (1974). Not “all legislative gaps must be filled
    with formal rulemaking.” Id. at ¶ 58. In fact, a “great majority of directives that
    agencies issue, whether formally promulgated or not, fill in legislative gaps by
    solving matters that have not been specified by statutes.” Id. at ¶ 59.
    Thus, ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15, must be considered as filling the
    legislative procedural gaps left by the codified language of the statute being
    challenged as unconstitutional based on the legislative omissions. ODRC’s policy is
    expressly meant to safeguard an inmate’s due process rights in light of the
    legislature’s decision to delegate authority to ODRC to conduct the hearing under
    R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) and to establish constitutionally valid procedures under
    R.C. 5120.01.
    Contrary to the black-letter law discussed in O’Neal, it has been
    suggested that ODRC policy is not akin to a rule or a regulation and, therefore,
    cannot be enforced or even discussed. As previously discussed, any difference
    between describing ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 as a “policy” or a “rule” is not one of
    distinction for the purposes of applying Morrissey, which only requires the
    executive branch to implement procedures under the Morrissey guidelines. In
    order to avoid the implications of the delegation of authority and the effect of ODRC
    Policy 105-PBD-15, the dissent claims that “an administrative policy” is not to be
    enforced as an extension of the statute, citing Oko v. Mohr, 11th Dist. Ashtabula No.
    2011-A-0045, 
    2012-Ohio-1450
    , and State ex rel. Estate of Sziraki v. Admr., Bur. of
    Workers’ Comp., 10th Dist. Franklin No. 10AP-267, 
    2011-Ohio-1486
    .
    In Oko, the panel opined that the policy being discussed was
    promulgated under R.C. 5120.01 and constituted a policy, to be differentiated from
    an “administrative rule.” Id. at ¶ 16. First and foremost, R.C. 5120.01 authorizes
    ODRC to promulgate “rules and regulations,” not “policies.” Thus, any “policy”
    promulgated under R.C. 5120.01 is statutorily considered a “rule” or “regulation.”
    Regardless, the relator in Oko referred to the policy as an “Administrative Rule.”
    The court disagreed with that characterization, but that difference did not impact
    the conclusion that the policy in question did not require ODRC to issue the prisoner
    a second prison identification number. Id. In other words, the court reviewed the
    particular policy and determined that it did not provide for the relief the relator
    requested. If the policy was not enforceable, the court could have merely declared
    that as a policy, it was to be disregarded in its entirety. Id. Instead, it reviewed the
    policy on its merits and concluded the policy did not afford the relator his requested
    relief. Oko’s offhand statement in dicta does not support a conclusion that ODRC
    Policy 105-PBD-15 can be ignored.
    Similarly, in Sziraki, the panel adopted a magistrate’s decision in
    which it was concluded that an isolated statement on the Bureau of Workers’
    Compensation’s website did not constitute a “rule” and in making that declaration,
    the magistrate referred to the statement as a “policy.” Id. at Appendix. The relator
    in that writ action was attempting to argue that a statement on the Bureau of
    Workers’ Compensation’s website should be enforced as a legal requirement. Id.
    The magistrate’s decision, as adopted by the panel, declined to enforce the statement
    from the website as a controlling policy or procedure that the legislature authorized
    the agency to promulgate under its rulemaking authority. Id. Thus, the Sziraki
    Court, at most, concluded that the statement on the website did not carry the force
    of law.
    There is no dispute that ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15 was established
    under R.C. 5120.01 and is not simply a statement on ODRC’s website like the
    “policy” at issue in Sziraki that was not promulgated under R.C. 5120.01. It should
    go without saying that an isolated statement on a website from an unknown author
    is distinguishable from the Ohio legislature’s delegation of authority under R.C.
    5120.01 to the director of ODRC to promulgate binding “rules and regulations” to
    govern “all duties” the legislature tasks ODRC to undertake. Id.
    Neither Oko nor Sziraki is applicable. Nothing within those two case
    decisions stands for the proposition that a “policy” duly enacted through ODRC’s
    authority under R.C. 5120.01 is to be disregarded or is otherwise unenforceable for
    the purposes of applying Morrissey when considering statutory text. Any overly
    broad declaration that a “policy” enacted under R.C. 5120.01 fails to carry the weight
    of law has far-ranging implications for ODRC’s delegated authority to act, impacting
    ODRC’s ability to function. O’Neal, 
    2020-Ohio-506
    , 
    146 N.E.3d 605
    , at ¶ 29 (10th
    Dist.) (R.C. 5120.01 grants broad executive powers to ODRC to promulgate rules and
    regulations necessary to carry out its functions).
    At this juncture of the proceedings, it should be enough to
    acknowledge that Sealey’s and Daniel’s due process analysis, regarding the omission
    of codified procedures in reliance on Morrissey, fail due to the existence of ODRC
    Policy 105-PBD-15 that must be considered as part of R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D),
    filling the legislative procedural gaps. See, e.g., Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 220
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
     (reviewing the Rev.Stat. 1979, 42 U.S.C. 1983 action to
    determine the constitutional validity of the procedural rules established by ODRC’s
    statutorily authorized rulemaking authority); see also Wolff, 
    418 U.S. at 551
    , 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
     (1974) (reviewing prison regulations for constitutional
    compliance under Morrissey in 42 U.S.C. 1983 action). Since the dissents have
    concluded that R.C. 2967.271 is silent as to the Morrissey procedural safeguards, we
    must at least acknowledge that the silence is based on the legislature’s delegation of
    authority to ODRC to craft the policies and procedures under which the maximum-
    term hearings are conducted.        The legislature may delegate authority to the
    executive branch to promulgate those procedural safeguards under prevailing
    constitutional analysis, so the omission of the Morrissey requirements in R.C.
    2967.271 cannot be the basis of declaring the Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional.
    c. The dissents’ conclusions challenge statutory provisions that
    extend beyond the Reagan Tokes Law
    The Morrissey minimum parole revocation hearing requirements,
    specifically identified in the dissenting opinions, are not enumerated in Ohio’s
    parole revocation statute, R.C. 2967.15. Instead, those requirements are enacted or
    enforced under the executive agency’s authority to establish policies, rules, or
    regulations separate from the Ohio Revised Code. Under R.C. 2967.15(B), “the adult
    parole authority shall grant the person a hearing in accordance with rules adopted
    by the department of rehabilitation and correction under Chapter 119 of the Revised
    Code.” Certainly, there cannot be any suggestion that Ohio’s parole revocation
    statute is unconstitutional since R.C. 2967.15 is silent as to the Morrissey minimum
    requirements and solely relies on ODRC’s policy-making authority. See, e.g., Wilson
    v. State, 
    101 Ohio App.3d 487
    , 493, 
    655 N.E.2d 1348
     (4th Dist.1995) (concluding
    that the prisoner failed to demonstrate that R.C. 2967.15 was unconstitutional
    beyond a reasonable doubt).
    But that is exactly the conclusion that must be reached based on the
    dissents’ analysis declaring R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) unconstitutional based on the
    failure to enumerate the Morrissey procedural requirements in the statutory section
    instead of relying on the delegation of authority to ODRC to promulgate the
    procedural rules or policies. In declaring R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) unconstitutional,
    the dissents rely on an argument that would similarly impact R.C. 2967.15, which
    also fails to delineate the policies and procedures to be used at the parole revocation
    hearing, among other provisions of the Ohio Revised Code. This is not the only
    administrative rule, regulation, policy, or procedure that is impacted by such a broad
    declaration.
    In Delvallie, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109315, 
    2021-Ohio-1809
    , at ¶ 66,
    for example, the panel declared that the Reagan Tokes Law deprives inmates of their
    due process rights because R.C. 2967.271 was vague. In Delvallie, the panel opined
    that
    public media is replete with reports of attacks by inmates against
    inmates, inmates against corrections officers, and corrections officers
    against inmates. Does the statute advise, for example, that if attacked
    by a definite term inmate with nothing to lose, the offender best run
    like the wind because involvement in an altercation, assuming he
    survives, could cost him his release?
    Id. at ¶ 68.      Delvallie then claimed that R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) are
    unconstitutional because of the lack of due process concerning the prison rule
    infraction system.
    The challenge to the prison rule infraction system as a reason to
    invalidate the Reagan Tokes Law cannot be viewed in isolation. No provision of the
    Reagan Tokes Law creates a new prison rule infraction system permitting ODRC to
    unilaterally act without recourse or procedural guidance.           Ohio Adm.Code
    5120-9-08 sets forth an inmate’s rights and the procedures the Rules Infraction
    Board are to follow in imposing any and all institutional infractions upon the
    inmates. See, e.g., Oko v. Lake Erie Corr. Inst., 11th Dist. Ashtabula No. 2010-A-
    0002, 
    2010-Ohio-2821
    , ¶ 3 (overruling a constitutional challenge to the decision by
    the Rules Infraction Board).
    R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) simply rely on the results of those
    proceedings, which are conducted under an Ohio Administrative Code section that
    has not been challenged and, importantly, is not part of the Reagan Tokes Law itself.
    The maximum-term hearing simply borrows from the results of that rules infraction
    proceeding, and Delvallie’s claim that the infraction system is constitutionally
    infirm impacts the current provisions of the Ohio Revised Code well beyond our
    current review. R.C. 2967.271(C) (relying on the results of the rules infraction
    board); ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15, Section VI. B. 1-3.          Any challenges to the
    infraction system must be advanced through a separate writ action when the
    infraction has been declared and impacts the duration of confinement. State ex rel.
    Larkins v. Wilkinson, 
    79 Ohio St.3d 477
    , 479, 
    683 N.E.2d 1139
     (1997) (writ of
    mandamus will not lie “absent evidence that the challenged institutional action
    would affect the inmate’s duration of confinement”), citing Samuels v. Mockry, 
    77 F.3d 34
    , 37 (2d Cir.1996); Lane v. Russell, 
    109 Ohio App.3d 470
    , 473, 
    672 N.E.2d 684
     (12th Dist.1996). Delvallie’s claims with respect to the prison infraction system
    have no bearing on the Reagan Tokes Law. More to the point, if we were to accept
    Delvallie’s conclusion, Ohio Adm.Code 5120-9-08 is likewise to be declared
    unconstitutional since that creates the framework Delvallie questions.
    Any conclusion that R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) deprive offenders of
    their due process rights is solely based on reviewing R.C. 2967.271 to the exclusion
    of ODRC rules, policies, or procedures established under R.C. 5120.01. ODRC Policy
    105-PBD-15. Through R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D), the legislature tasked ODRC with
    conducting hearings to determine enforcement of the maximum term imposed
    under R.C. 2929.144, the notice for which occurs under R.C. 2967.12, the notice
    statute for parole hearings. The legislature further authorized the director of ODRC
    to establish policies, rules, and procedures in compliance with its statutory duties
    based on the legislature’s delegation of authority to the executive agency. R.C.
    5120.01; ODRC Policy 105-PBD-15, Section I. R.C. 2967.271 is not unconstitutional
    based on a Morrissey violation.
    IV.    The State’s Claim as to the Ripeness of Reviewing the Validity
    of the Imposed Sentences is Overruled
    And finally, there is a distinction that must be addressed between
    challenging the imposition of a sentence by claiming the statute authorizing the
    sentence is constitutionally infirm and appealing the lack of due process for the
    specific manner in which the sentence for a particular inmate is later carried out.
    These appeals, being considered en banc, deal with the first question, and that is the
    only question at this stage that is ripe for our review.
    a. Distinguishing the claims that are ripe for review from the
    claims implicating ODRC’s rulemaking authority
    We are tasked with determining whether the sentence as constructed
    under the Reagan Tokes Law is valid, and that question can only be raised in a direct
    appeal. If the sentence, as imposed, is valid at this stage, an inmate has the later
    right to challenge the actual process or procedures that particular inmate will be
    subjected to when the sentence is actually carried out by the executive branch. The
    remedy to a second claim, when it becomes ripe, will not be to invalidate the
    sentence or conviction, but instead the remedy will be only to require a
    constitutionally sound proceeding through which the defendant’s sentence can be
    completed. Sloan, 
    152 Ohio St.3d 32
    , 
    2017-Ohio-8708
    , 
    92 N.E.3d 836
    , at ¶ 6, citing
    Scarberry, 
    139 Ohio St.3d 111
    , 
    2014-Ohio-1587
    , 
    9 N.E.3d 1022
    , at ¶ 13 (“[t]he
    remedy for an alleged Morrissey due-process violation is a new hearing, not
    immediate release from confinement.”).
    This cannot be overemphasized.        The appropriate mechanism to
    challenge the validity of policies, rules, regulations, or protocols established by the
    executive is through a separate declaratory judgment or habeas action seeking to
    preclude ODRC from enforcing them, which only occurs at the actual time when
    those policies, rules, regulations, or protocols are being applied against the inmate.
    See, e.g., O’Neal, 
    2020-Ohio-506
    , 
    146 N.E.3d 605
    , at ¶ 3 (10th Dist.); Kellogg v.
    Shoemaker, 
    46 F.3d 503
     (6th Cir.1995); Rodriguez, 
    594 F.2d 170
    , 173 (7th Cir.1979);
    State v. Kepling, 3d Dist. Hancock No. 5-20-23, 
    2020-Ohio-6888
    , ¶ 15, fn. 3. Any
    claims implicating the deprivation of due process rights impacted by ODRC’s
    published policy with respect to the maximum-term hearing process are not ripe for
    review in a direct appeal because that hearing has not taken place. See, e.g.,
    Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 220
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
     (reviewing the Rev.Stat.
    1979, 42 U.S.C. 1983 action to determine the constitutional validity of the procedural
    rules established by ODRC’s statutorily authorized rulemaking authority). This type
    of post-sentencing review is a challenge against how the defendant’s sentence is
    carried out, as contrasted with a direct appeal that challenges the imposition of a
    sentence.
    On this point, the state, in its general claim that these issues are not
    ripe for review, appears to be confusing challenges to the imposition of a sentence,
    State v. Patrick, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 309
    , 
    2020-Ohio-6803
    , 
    172 N.E.3d 952
    , ¶ 22 (the
    constitutional validity of the imposed indefinite sentence is immediately
    appealable), with the ripeness of the due process claims against an executive
    agency’s enforcement of rules, policies, regulations, or protocols the agency uses to
    carry out the defendant’s sentence. Kepling at ¶ 15, fn. 3 (noting the state’s ripeness
    claim is “in effect” targeting a declaratory judgment action under R.C. Chapter 2721
    that is not ripe for review in a direct appeal). This requires a more thorough
    discussion, but in fairness, at oral argument the state conceded the difference
    between the ripeness of appeals challenging the imposition of the sentence and
    claims challenging the means in which the sentence is carried out that are not ripe
    for review in a direct appeal — in apparent agreement with the following.
    In Patrick, for example, the Ohio Supreme Court concluded that an
    appeal of an indefinite sentence imposed for aggravated murder or murder based on
    constitutional challenges to the imposed sentence may be considered in the direct
    appeal despite statutory limitations. Patrick at ¶ 22. Although not directly on point,
    Patrick is instructive. In essence, Patrick maintains that an offender sentenced to
    serve an indefinite term of imprisonment may challenge the constitutional validity
    of the sentence itself, including challenges to the sentencing structure upon which
    the sentence is based, in the direct appeal. This is no different from the conclusion
    reached in Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109507, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    , for example,
    in which the panel generally concluded that the defendant’s constitutional
    challenges to the indefinite term imposed under R.C. 2929.144 and 2929.14(A)(1)(a)
    or (A)(2)(a) are immediately appealable.
    However, there are limits to the type of arguments that can be
    addressed within the scope of a direct appeal. The general ripeness paradigm as
    recognized in Wilburn and other cases from this district dealing with the issue in the
    Reagan Tokes Law context, is necessarily limited to constitutional challenges
    against the sentence imposed or the validity of the statute authorizing the sentence.
    Our view here is not in conflict with Wilburn or with Gamble where we exhaustingly
    discussed ripeness of the imposition of a nonlife indefinite sentence. See, e.g.,
    Wilburn at ¶ 10-18; Gamble, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109613, 
    2021-Ohio-1810
    , at
    ¶ 6-28. In this context, the defendants advanced claims challenging the validity of
    the sentencing structure underlying the final sentence imposed — hypothetically
    speaking, if the defendants’ arguments were accepted, the result would be a remand
    for a new sentencing in which a “valid” sentence is imposed after the
    unconstitutional sentencing provision was severed from the Revised Code. It is that
    remedy that defines the boundaries of what claims are acceptable to bring in a direct
    appeal.
    The remedy to correct Morrissey problems is not to invalidate the
    sentence or declare the law to be unconstitutional, but instead the remedy is to
    require a constitutionally sound proceeding through which the defendant’s sentence
    can be completed, whether by statute, rule, regulation, or a policy of the executive
    agency. See Sloan, 
    152 Ohio St.3d 32
    , 
    2017-Ohio-8708
    , 
    92 N.E.3d 836
    , at ¶ 6, citing
    Scarberry, 
    139 Ohio St.3d 111
    , 
    2014-Ohio-1587
    , 
    9 N.E.3d 1022
    , at ¶ 13 (“[t]he
    remedy for an alleged Morrissey due-process violation is a new hearing, not
    immediate release from confinement.”). A conviction is not vacated because the
    hearing process itself lacked the constitutional safeguards — the remedy is to
    conduct a new hearing that is compliant with all constitutional requirements.
    At this stage of the proceedings, we are not tasked with reviewing the
    validity of the process by which ODRC carries out the defendant’s sentence; we are
    solely reviewing the validity of the statutes that authorize the sentences already
    imposed. R.C. 2967.271’s silence as to the detailed procedures for the hearing is not
    a basis to declare the Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional. Although in time,
    individual inmates may challenge ODRC’s policies that dictate the procedures
    ODRC must follow in carrying out the sentence under R.C. 2967.271, those
    challenges cannot be raised until the underlying sentence itself has been declared
    constitutionally sound and after the procedure is applied to deprive the offender of
    a constitutional right during the service of the sentence. It is a two-step process. In
    this district’s previous decisions, Wilburn and Gamble in particular, the ripeness of
    the claims advanced against the sentence was addressed, but no defendant
    attempted to challenge the procedures that ODRC uses in carrying out the sentence.
    For our en banc purposes, a defendant cannot extend the scope of the
    permissible argument challenging the sentence itself into one attacking the
    administrative rules or regulations, under R.C. 5120.01 parlance, establishing the
    procedures to maintain the offenders within the prison system — a proposition that
    was first implicated by the sua sponte discussion of the Morrissey requirements
    from Delvallie, Sealey, and Daniel, which necessarily implicates the legislature’s
    authority to delegate rulemaking authority to ODRC to promulgate ODRC Policy
    105-PBD-15.8 See Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 220
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
    .
    Those Morrissey claims solely depend on reviewing the administrative rules,
    policies, procedures, or protocols enacted by the executive branch, and are only
    cognizable through separate action, such as one for declaratory or habeas relief,
    since the claims depend on conditions or arguments that may or may not occur
    during the offender’s prison service. Kepling, 3d Dist. Hancock No. 5-20-23, 2020-
    Ohio-6888, at ¶ 15, fn. 3; O’Neal, 
    2020-Ohio-506
    , 
    146 N.E.3d 605
    , at ¶ 3 (10th Dist.).
    On this point, O’Neal is instructive.
    8   There has been much emphasis on the fact that the policy was not effective until
    March 2020, after the defendants filed their appeals. Since the Reagan Tokes Law
    became effective in March 2019, the earliest ODRC would have been required to conduct
    a maximum-term hearing was two years after the enactment of the Reagan Tokes Law,
    the shortest possible minimum term under R.C. 2929.14(A). This highlights the necessity
    of clarifying what is ripe for review in a direct appeal as contrasted against what must be
    raised through a postconviction proceeding challenging the executive agency’s
    enforcement of its policies.
    In O’Neal, two inmates filed complaints seeking declaratory and
    injunctive relief to determine the validity of execution procedures ODRC drafted to
    enforce a sentence of death imposed by the trial court. Id. at ¶ 3. ODRC maintains
    an execution protocol setting forth comprehensive and detailed procedures to be
    utilized in carrying out court-ordered executions in Ohio. In other words, ODRC
    established procedural rules or policies governing its enforcement of a judicially
    imposed sentence. Id. at ¶ 2. Although O’Neal is not directly on point, the case
    illustrates the compartmentalization of the challenges against the imposition of the
    sentence (the defendants’ claims in this en banc proceeding) from challenges
    advanced against the procedures the executive branch uses to enforce those
    sentences (the dissents’ reliance on Morrissey). A defendant cannot challenge
    ODRC’s enforcement of its rules, policies, procedures, or protocols, which are
    necessary to ODRC’s enforcing a judicially imposed sentence, in a direct appeal of
    the criminal action. See generally id. Any such claims are not cognizable in the
    direct criminal appeal because those claims cannot arise until ODRC attempts to
    enforce its rules, policies, procedures, or protocols against the inmate. Id. Thus, the
    inmate’s claims against the enforcement of ODRC rules, policies, procedures, or
    protocols are only cognizable in a separate action and are outside the scope of a
    direct appeal. Id.
    It is for this reason that we can summarily reject any claim that the
    direct appeals of the imposed nonlife, indefinite sentence are not ripe for review. A
    defendant has the right to appeal the constitutional validity of the imposed sentence
    in a direct appeal. Patrick, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 309
    , 
    2020-Ohio-6803
    , 
    172 N.E.3d 952
    ;
    Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109507, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    , at ¶ 10-18. However, any
    due process claims against the executive branch’s rulemaking or policy-making
    authority implicating the inmate’s service of a sentence are not generally ripe for
    review in that direct appeal. See generally, Kepling at ¶ 15, fn. 3; O’Neal.
    In other words, the lack of expressly delineated procedures within
    R.C. 2967.271 is not a basis to declare the statutory section unconstitutional because
    the legislature delegated authority for ODRC to promulgate a rule and regulation
    expressly detailing the procedural requirements of the hearing through R.C.
    5120.01. Whether those rules comply with Morrissey is an issue left for another day
    when properly advanced by the defendants.
    Further, and in light of Delvallie, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109315,
    
    2021-Ohio-1809
    , in which the panel created a conflict in this district with Gamble,
    8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109613, 
    2021-Ohio-1810
    , and Wilburn (both finding the
    constitutional challenges to the sentences imposed under R.C. 2929.144 and
    2929.14(A)(1)(a) and (A)(2)(a) to be ripe for review in the direct appeal of the
    sentence imposed but without merit), we can reject the state’s claim that a
    defendant’s challenge as to the validity of the imposed sentence is not ripe for
    review.   The constitutional implications of the defendants serving sentences
    imposed under the Reagan Tokes Law have been decided and further have been
    addressed by the state’s appeal of the trial court’s failure to impose an indefinite
    sentence in Simmons, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109476, 
    2021-Ohio-939
    . Since the
    state was required to appeal the trial court’s declaration that the statute was
    unconstitutional in Simmons, the issue is squarely before this court. Regardless, the
    ripeness issue with respect to challenging the imposition of the sentence was
    thoroughly analyzed in Gamble at ¶ 6-28 and need not be rehashed. The en banc
    question posed does not invalidate the ripeness analysis presented in Gamble.
    It suffices that seeking to invalidate a sentence that was imposed as
    being in violation of the Constitution differs from seeking to challenge the
    procedural rules for release determination under R.C. 2967.271. 
    Id.
     Only the former
    may be challenged in the direct appeal. 
    Id.
     The latter is not ripe for review until
    properly challenged in a writ or declaratory judgment action. 
    Id.
    V.     Conclusion
    Based on the foregoing, the defendants, including Delvallie, have not
    sufficiently met their burden to prove the whole of the Reagan Tokes Law to be
    unconstitutional beyond a reasonable doubt. The panel decisions Delvallie, Daniel,
    and Sealey are hereby vacated. The opinion issued in Gamble is not in conflict with
    the foregoing and, therefore, remains the decision in that case. As a result of the
    foregoing, Delvallie’s sole assignment of error is overruled and his conviction is
    affirmed.
    It is ordered that appellee recover from appellant costs herein taxed.
    The court finds there were reasonable grounds for this appeal.
    It is ordered that a special mandate issue out of this court directing the
    common pleas court to carry this judgment into execution.           The defendant’s
    conviction having been affirmed, any bail pending appeal is terminated. Case
    remanded to the trial court for execution of sentence.
    A certified copy of this entry shall constitute the mandate pursuant to Rule 27
    of the Rules of Appellate Procedure.
    ____________________________________
    SEAN C. GALLAGHER, ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE
    FRANK D. CELEBREZZE, JR., and CORNELIUS J. O’SULLIVAN, JR., JJ.,
    CONCUR;
    EILEEN A. GALLAGHER, KATHLEEN ANN KEOUGH, and MICHELLE J.
    SHEEHAN, JJ., CONCUR WITH SECTIONS II. AND V. OF THE MAJORITY
    OPINION AND CONCUR IN JUDGMENT ONLY WITH THE REMAINDER;
    MARY J. BOYLE, J., CONCURS IN JUDGMENT ONLY (WITH SEPARATE
    OPINION);
    LISA B. FORBES, J., DISSENTS (WITH SEPARATE OPINION); EILEEN T.
    GALLAGHER, EMANUELLA D. GROVES, MARY EILEEN KILBANE, and ANITA
    LASTER MAYS, JJ., CONCUR;
    ANITA LASTER MAYS, J., DISSENTS IN PART AND CONCURS IN PART (WITH
    SEPARATE OPINION); EMANUELLA D. GROVES and MARY EILEEN KILBANE,
    JJ., CONCUR.
    MARY J. BOYLE, J., CONCURRING IN JUDGMENT ONLY:
    Consistent with my dissenting opinion in the original panel decision
    in State v. Gamble, 
    2021-Ohio-1810
    ,
    173 N.E.3d 132
     (8th Dist.) and as several of our
    sister districts have held, I maintain that challenges in a direct appeal under the
    Reagan Tokes Act9 are not yet ripe for review. I would therefore not reach the en
    banc question of constitutionality.
    “[C]onstitutional questions are not ripe for review until the necessity
    for a decision arises on the record before the court.” State v. Spikes, 
    129 Ohio App.3d 142
    , 147, 
    717 N.E.2d 386
     (11th Dist.1998), citing Christensen v. Bd. of
    Commrs. on Grievances & Discipline, 
    61 Ohio St.3d 534
    , 535, 
    575 N.E.2d 790
    (1991). In order to determine whether an issue is ripe for judicial review, “‘the court
    must weigh (1) the likelihood that the alleged future harm will ever occur, (2) the
    likelihood that delayed review will cause hardship to the parties, and (3) whether the
    factual record is sufficiently developed to provide fair adjudication.’” Gamble at
    ¶ 20, quoting Stewart v. Stewart, 
    134 Ohio App.3d 556
    , 558, 
    731 N.E.2d 743
     (4th
    Dist.1999), citing Ohio Forestry Assn., Inc. v. Sierra Club, 
    523 U.S. 726
    , 
    118 S.Ct. 1665
    , 
    140 L.Ed.2d 921
     (1998).10
    In State v. McCann, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 85657, 
    2006-Ohio-171
    ,
    the defendant argued that because the parole board had the power under R.C.
    2967.28 to extend his sentence by up to an additional five years for violation of
    postrelease control, the statute was unconstitutional. We concluded that because the
    defendant in McCann was not currently the subject of such action by the parole
    board, the issue was not yet ripe for review. Id. at ¶ 6.
    9  In its en banc brief, the state correctly notes that the constitutional challenge is
    more accurately framed as a challenge to R.C. 2967.21 rather than the entire Reagan
    Tokes Act.
    10 Throughout the appeals before this court, the state has maintained its position
    that issues under the Reagan Tokes Act are not ripe in a defendant’s direct appeal.
    Several of our sister districts have relied upon our decision in
    McCann, in determining that challenges to sentencing under the Reagan Tokes Act
    are not ripe for review until a defendant has been held past his or her minimum
    sentence. See, e.g., State v. Halfhill, 4th Dist. Meigs No. 20CA7, 
    2021-Ohio-177
    ,
    ¶ 20; State v. Downard, 5th Dist. Muskingum No. CT2019-0079, 
    2020-Ohio-4227
    ;
    State v. Manion, 5th Dist. Tuscarawas No. 2020 AP 03 0009, 
    2020-Ohio-4230
    ;
    State v. Kibler, 5th Dist. Muskingum No. CT2020-0026, 
    2020-Ohio-4631
    ; State v.
    Maddox, 6th Dist. Lucas No. CL-19-1253, 
    2020-Ohio-4702
    .
    Other districts have not addressed the ripeness issue, but have
    implicitly determined that the matter was ripe by proceeding to the merits of the
    appeal. See, e.g., State v. Henderson, 12th Dist. Warren No. CA2020-11-072, 2021-
    Ohio-3564; State v. Hacker, 
    2020-Ohio-5048
    , 
    161 N.E.3d 112
     (3d Dist.); State v.
    Keith, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 28805, 
    2021-Ohio-518
    .
    The Supreme Court of Ohio has certified a conflict among the
    districts on the following question:
    Is the constitutionality of the provisions of the Reagan Tokes Law,
    which allow the Department of Rehabilitation and Correctio[n] to
    administratively extend a criminal defendant’s prison term beyond the
    presumptive minimum term, ripe for review on direct appeal from
    sentencing, or only after the defendant has served the minimum term
    and been subject to extension by application of the Act?
    See State v. Maddox, 
    160 Ohio St.3d 1505
    , 
    2020-Ohio-6913
    , 
    159 N.E.3d 1150
    .
    Oral arguments in Maddox were held on June 29, 2021, and a
    decision has not yet been released. Pending the decision in Maddox, the Supreme
    Court has held consideration of other cases that were appealed on Reagan Tokes
    grounds,11 to wit: State v. Singh, 
    165 Ohio St.3d 1424
    , 
    2021-Ohio-3730
    , 
    175 N.E.3d 568
    ; State v. Moran, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 1440
    , 
    2021-Ohio-3233
    , 
    173 N.E.3d 1230
    ; State
    v. Stenson, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 1455
    , 
    2021-Ohio-3438
    , 
    174 N.E.3d 801
    ; State v. Slye, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 1419
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2923
    , 
    172 N.E.3d 1041
    ; State v. Hunter, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1515
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2615
    , 
    171 N.E.3d 340
    ; State v. Hodgkin, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 1403
    , 2021-
    Ohio-2742, 
    172 N.E.3d 165
    ; State v. Mills, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1515
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2615
    , 
    171 N.E.3d 339
    ; State v. Stevens, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1493
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2270
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 1274
    ; State v. Sinkhorn, 
    164 Ohio St.3d 1419
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2923
    , 
    172 N.E.3d 1042
    ;
    State v. Noble, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1493
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2270
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 1286
    ; State v.
    Crawford, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1490
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2097
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 1267
    ; State v.
    Simmons, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1492
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2270
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 1273
    ; State v.
    Doughty, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1492
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2270
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 1284
    ; State v. Bothuel,
    
    163 Ohio St.3d 1490
    , 
    2021-Ohio-2097
    , 
    169 N.E.3d 1267
    ; State v. Ludwig, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1439
    , 
    2021-Ohio-1896
    , 
    168 N.E.3d 1197
    ; State v. Beatty, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 1439
    ,
    
    2021-Ohio-1896
    , 
    168 N.E.3d 1196
    ; State v. Jones, 
    162 Ohio St.3d 1421
    , 2021-Ohio-
    1201, 
    166 N.E.3d 10
    ; State v. Stone, 
    162 Ohio St.3d 1420
    , 
    2021-Ohio-1201
    , 
    166 N.E.3d 9
    ; State v. Ferguson, 
    162 Ohio St.3d 1410
    , 
    2021-Ohio-961
    , 
    165 N.E.3d 333
    ;
    State v. Dames, 
    162 Ohio St.3d 1410
    , 
    2021-Ohio-961
    , 
    165 N.E.3d 333
    ; State v. Wolfe,
    
    161 Ohio St.3d 1474
    , 
    2021-Ohio-717
    , 
    164 N.E.3d 482
    ; State v. Cochran, 
    161 Ohio 11
       As of November 4, 2021.
    St.3d 1450, 
    2021-Ohio-534
    , 
    163 N.E.3d 592
    ; State v. Hacker, 
    161 Ohio St.3d 1449
    ,
    
    2021-Ohio-534
    , 
    163 N.E.3d 585
    .
    Returning to the conflict cases before us, none of the three factors
    used to determine ripeness weighs in favor of the claims of a defendant who has not
    yet been subject to the provisions of Reagan Tokes. First, the likelihood of harm
    occurring is completely unknown at this time. It is possible that none of the
    conditions in R.C. 2967.271(C) will occur, and there may never be a question as to
    whether the sentence would be extended beyond the minimum term. At the time of
    a defendant’s direct appeal of sentencing, there is only the potential for a defendant
    to be subjected to the maximum prison term. “Generally, a claim is not ripe if the
    claim rests upon ‘future events that may not occur as anticipated, or may not occur
    at all.’” McLaughlin v. McLaughlin, 4th Dist. Athens No. 06CA14, 
    2007-Ohio-260
    ,
    ¶ 12, quoting Texas v. United States, 
    523 U.S. 296
    , 300, 
    118 S.Ct. 1257
    , 
    140 L.Ed.2d 406
     (1998).
    Moreover, while a party is not required to await the consummation
    of threatened injury to obtain preventive relief, the injury must be ‘“certainly
    impending.’” Thomas v. Union Carbide Agricultural Prods. Co., 
    473 U.S. 568
    , 581-
    582, 
    105 S.Ct. 3325
    , 
    87 L.Ed.2d 409
     (1985), quoting Regional Rail Reorganization
    Act Cases, 
    419 U.S. 102
    , 143, 
    95 S.Ct. 335
    , 
    42 L.Ed.2d 320
     (1974), citing
    Pennsylvania v. West Virginia, 
    262 U.S. 553
    , 593, 
    43 S.Ct. 658
    , 
    67 L.Ed. 1117
     (1923).
    “‘The ripeness doctrine is motivated in part by the desire “to prevent the courts,
    through avoidance of premature adjudication, from entangling themselves in
    abstract disagreements over administrative policies * * *.” Abbott Labs. v. Gardner
    (1967), 
    387 U.S. 136
    , 148, 
    87 S.Ct. 1507
    , 
    18 L.Ed.2d 681
    .’” State v. Freer, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 89392, 
    2008-Ohio-1257
    , ¶ 29, quoting State ex rel. Elyria Foundry
    Co. v. Indus. Comm., 
    82 Ohio St.3d 88
    , 89, 
    694 N.E.2d 459
     (1998).
    Like the defendant in McCann, supra, criminal defendants
    challenging the provisions of Reagan Tokes raise issues with the process that may
    extend their sentence. In McCann, the defendant argued that the postrelease
    control statute violated his right to a jury trial by allowing the parole board to extend
    his sentence. A challenge to Reagan Tokes is in the same vein — it is the ODRC that
    will decide whether the defendant must serve the maximum sentence rather than
    only the minimum sentence, and it is the process through which this determination
    is made by the ODRC that defendants claim is unconstitutional.
    The ODRC is permitted to rebut the presumption of a defendant’s
    minimum sentence and keep a defendant in prison for an additional period not to
    exceed the maximum term imposed by the sentencing judge. R.C. 2967.271(C). The
    statute provides that the presumption may be rebutted if the ODRC determines at a
    hearing any of the following:
    (1) Regardless of the security level in which the offender is classified at
    the time of the hearing, both of the following apply:
    (a) During the offender’s incarceration, the offender committed
    institutional rule infractions that involved compromising the security of
    a state correctional institution, compromising the safety of the staff of a
    state correctional institution or its inmates, or physical harm or the
    threat of physical harm to the staff of a state correctional institution or
    its inmates, or committed a violation of law that was not prosecuted, and
    the infractions or violations demonstrate that the offender has not been
    rehabilitated.
    (b) The offender’s behavior while incarcerated, including, but not
    limited to the infractions and violations specified in division (C)(1)(a) of
    this section, demonstrate that the offender continues to pose a threat to
    society.
    (2) Regardless of the security level in which the offender is classified at
    the time of the hearing, the offender has been placed by the department
    in extended restrictive housing at any time within the year preceding the
    date of the hearing.
    (3) At the time of the hearing, the offender is classified by the
    department as a security level three, four, or five, or at a higher security
    level.
    When reviewing appeals from sentencing, it is impossible for us to
    know whether any of the above conditions will occur and rebut the presumption of
    the minimum sentence. Thus, a criminal defendant raising challenges to Reagan
    Tokes in his or her direct appeal is not currently subject to any action by the ODRC
    related to extending his or her sentence, and he or she may very well never be. This
    is the very epitome of a failure to demonstrate ripeness.
    The Third District has come to a similar conclusion regarding due
    process challenges to Reagan Tokes:
    [A]t this point, we cannot even determine whether the ODRC will ever
    have occasion to hold a hearing to determine whether Kepling should
    be held beyond his presumptive release date. Similarly, we cannot now
    determine whether the ODRC will provide Kepling with adequate
    notice and an opportunity to be heard if a hearing to hold Kepling
    beyond his presumptive release date is ever held. Further, as the
    appellant notes in his brief, we also cannot now know what
    administrative protections will be in place in the future to guide the
    ODRC.
    [This argument] “rests on contingent future events that may not occur
    as anticipated or may never occur at all.” [State v.] Loving, [
    180 Ohio App.3d 424
    , 
    2009-Ohio-15
    , 
    905 N.E.2d 1234
    , ¶ 4 (10th Dist.)]. For this
    reason, we conclude that the arguments that Kepling raises on appeal
    that do not raise a facial challenge to the Reagan Tokes Law are not yet
    ripe for consideration. * * *
    State v. Kepling, 3d Dist. Hancock No. 5-20-23, 
    2020-Ohio-6888
    , ¶ 14-15. The
    Kepling Court declined to consider the due process constitutional arguments on this
    basis. See also State v. Crawford, 3d Dist. Henry No. 7-20-05, 
    2021-Ohio-547
    , ¶ 15
    (“This argument does not address a penalty that Crawford has already received but
    is based on contingent events that may or may not arise in the future. Thus, this
    issue is not yet ripe for our consideration.”).
    The Eleventh District has also determined that challenges to Reagan
    Tokes were not ripe for review, likening them to challenges to Ohio’s former “bad
    time” laws and to optional postrelease control. On appeal from sentencing, these
    challenges were held not to be ripe, because the offender only had the “‘potential to
    be subjected to extended prison time or postrelease control.’” (Emphasis sic.) State
    v. Lavean, 11th Dist. Lake No. 2020-L-045, 
    2021-Ohio-1456
    , ¶ 10, quoting State v.
    Spikes, 
    129 Ohio App.3d 142
    , 145, 
    717 N.E.2d 386
     (11th Dist.1998).
    This court has recently decided the case of State v. Sealey, 2021-
    Ohio-1949, 
    173 N.E.3d 894
     (8th Dist.). In Sealey, the trial court refused to sentence
    the defendant under Reagan Tokes, finding it to be unconstitutional. The trial court
    did not provide any explanation as to what aspect of the law it had determined to be
    unconstitutional. The state appealed, and the Sealey panel affirmed, holding
    Reagan Tokes to be unconstitutional on due process grounds.
    While Sealey did not specifically address the question of ripeness,
    Sealey did present a ripe issue. Because the trial court did not sentence the
    defendant to the minimum and maximum sentence provided for by Reagan Tokes,
    the issue was already present and justiciable, and there were no contingent events
    that had to occur prior to review. Sealey can therefore be distinguished from the
    instant cases where defendants were properly sentenced to minimum and
    maximum sentences under Reagan Tokes and raise issues with the process that
    triggers the maximum sentence — a process that is contingent upon certain factors
    and may never occur in many cases.
    The second factor in analyzing ripeness asks whether delayed review
    will cause hardship to the parties. This question may also be answered in the
    negative because, as noted by the Fourth District, a defendant subject to the
    provisions of Reagan Tokes may have his or her claims addressed via a writ for
    habeas corpus:
    [A] petition for a writ of habeas corpus was the procedure by which the
    defendants in Bray challenged the constitutionality of the “bad time”
    statute, R.C. 2967.11. The defendants were sentenced, served their
    prison terms, and then were sanctioned with bad time penalties that
    were added to the maximum sentence imposed by the trial court. Each
    defendant filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus, alleging that they
    were unlawfully restrained because R.C. 2967.11 was unconstitutional.
    Similarly, in Woods v. Telb, 
    89 Ohio St.3d 504
    , 
    2000-Ohio-171
    , 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
    , an inmate, Woods, challenged the post-release control
    statute, R.C. 2967.28, on the grounds that it violated the separation of
    powers doctrine and due process. Woods was sentenced to ten months
    in prison and then placed on post-release control for three years. After
    a number of violations, Woods was sanctioned to serve one hundred
    and eighty days in a community based correctional facility. Woods filed
    a petition for a writ of habeas corpus arguing that the post-release
    control statute was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court of Ohio held
    that the post-release control statute was constitutional. As in Bray, the
    Court did not specifically discuss the necessity of the use of a petition
    for a writ of habeas corpus to challenge the constitutionality of the post-
    release control statute, the Court ruled on the merits, finding the
    statute constitutional. Thus, as with Bray and as recognized by the
    Fifth District in Downard and Minion, we find that a habeas corpus
    petition is the appropriate method for Ramey to challenge the
    constitutionality of the Reagan Tokes Law when — if ever — the ODRC
    holds him beyond the minimum sentence.
    State v. Ramey, 4th Dist. Washington Nos. 20CA1 and 20CA2, 
    2020-Ohio-6733
    ,
    ¶ 21.
    With regard to the third ripeness factor, the factual record in direct
    appeals raising Reagan Tokes constitutional challenges is not sufficiently developed
    for us to provide fair adjudication. Because the defendants in the conflict cases have
    not been subject to any determination by the ODRC, there is nothing in the record
    that would allow us to assess whether the process of such determination violates a
    defendant’s constitutional rights.
    Finally, while Delvallie argues that the ripeness argument cannot
    survive the Supreme Court of Ohio decisions in Harper, Henderson, and Hudson,
    these decisions, along with this court’s recent en banc opinion in State v. Stansell,
    8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109023, 
    2021-Ohio-2036
    , also do not prevent a defendant
    from raising a Reagan Tokes challenge after his or her direct appeal. The above cases
    involved challenges to the sentence imposed and the obligation to raise any errors
    in such imposition at the direct appeal. But a defendant’s claimed Reagan Tokes
    constitutional violations do not arise from the imposition of the sentence. When
    sentenced pursuant to Reagan Tokes, a defendant will have been properly sentenced
    to both a minimum and maximum term under the statute.                   Any claimed
    constitutional violations relate solely to the process by which the ODRC may make
    the determination of whether to keep him beyond the minimum sentence and
    trigger the maximum sentence. A defendant may raise issues with the ODRC
    process of triggering the maximum sentence at the time such actions actually occur
    and not before, when the challenges are not yet ripe.
    Thus, in accordance with the law of several of our sister districts, I
    maintain that this issue is not ripe for judicial review. However, because the Reagan
    Tokes Act decisions accepted by this court for en banc review present a clear conflict,
    I am duty-bound under App.R. 26(A)(2) to consider the issues presented. I resolve
    that conflict in favor of finding the Reagan Tokes Act to be constitutional and concur
    in judgment only.
    LISA B. FORBES, J., DISSENTING WITH SEPARATE OPINION:
    I dissent from the majority because the presumption of release
    established in R.C. 2967.271(B) and (C) creates a liberty interest of which inmates
    may not be deprived without due process of law, but R.C. 2967.271 does not contain
    any due process safeguards. Consequently, I would find R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D)
    unconstitutional.
    I.   Standard of Review
    The constitutionality of a statute presents questions of law, which are
    “reviewed de novo, independently and without deference to the trial court’s
    decision.” Andreyko v. Cincinnati, 
    153 Ohio App.3d 108
    , 112, 
    2003-Ohio-2759
    , 
    791 N.E.2d 1025
     (1st Dist.). Our review must be conducted in light of the notion that
    statutes “enjoy a strong presumption of constitutionality.” State v. Romage, 
    138 Ohio St.3d 390
    , 
    2014-Ohio-783
    , 
    7 N.E.3d 1156
    , ¶ 7.
    In the instant case, the defendant brings a facial challenge to the
    Reagan Tokes Law and the trial court’s imposition of his prison sentence under it.
    A party may challenge a statute as unconstitutional on its face or as
    applied to a particular set of facts. A facial challenge to a statute is the
    most difficult to bring successfully because the challenger must
    establish that there exists no set of circumstances under which the
    statute would be valid. The fact that a statute might operate
    unconstitutionally under some plausible set of circumstances is
    insufficient to render it wholly invalid.
    (Citations omitted.) Harrold v. Collier, 
    107 Ohio St.3d 44
    , 
    2005-Ohio-5334
    , 
    836 N.E.2d 1165
    , ¶ 37.
    The Ohio Supreme Court has held that “[w]hen determining whether
    a law is facially invalid, a court must be careful not to exceed the statute’s actual
    language and speculate about hypothetical or imaginary cases.” Wymsylo v. Bartec,
    Inc., 
    132 Ohio St.3d 167
    , 
    2012-Ohio-2187
    , 
    970 N.E.2d 898
    , ¶ 21, citing Washington
    State Grange v. Washington State Republican Party, 
    552 U.S. 442
    , 449-450, 
    128 S.Ct. 1184
    , 
    170 L.Ed.2d 151
     (2008). Furthermore, “[r]eference to extrinsic facts is
    not required to resolve a facial challenge.” Wymsylo at ¶ 21.
    II. Constitutionality of the Reagan Tokes Law
    The Reagan Tokes Law sets forth an indefinite sentencing scheme
    for certain qualifying first- and second-degree felonies committed on or after
    March 22, 2019. R.C. 2967.271. Under this scheme, courts sentence a defendant to
    a minimum and maximum prison term, with a presumption that the defendant
    “shall be released from service of the sentence on the expiration of the offender’s
    minimum prison term * * *.” R.C. 2967.271(B). This presumption that the “offender
    shall be released” may be rebutted by the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and
    Correction (“DRC”) “only if the department determines, at a hearing, that one or
    more of the following applies”:
    (1) Regardless of the security level in which the offender is classified at
    the time of the hearing, both of the following apply:
    (a) During the offender’s incarceration, the offender committed
    institutional rule infractions that involved compromising the security
    of a state correctional institution, compromising the safety of the staff
    of a state correctional institution or its inmates, or physical harm or the
    threat of physical harm to the staff of a state correctional institution or
    its inmates, or committed a violation of law that was not prosecuted,
    and the infractions or violations demonstrate that the offender has not
    been rehabilitated.
    (b) The offender’s behavior while incarcerated, including, but not
    limited to the infractions and violations specified in division (C)(1)(a)
    of this section, demonstrate that the offender continues to pose a threat
    to society.
    (2) Regardless of the security level in which the offender is classified at
    the time of the hearing, the offender has been placed by the department
    in extended restrictive housing at any time within the year preceding
    the date of the hearing.
    (3) At the time of the hearing, the offender is classified by the
    department as a security level three, four, or five, or at a higher security
    level.
    R.C. 2967.271(C).
    In other words, an inmate will be released at the end of his or her
    minimum prison term (“presumptive release date”) unless the DRC takes action.
    A. Due Process
    Under the Fourteenth          Amendment       to   the United States
    Constitution, the states shall not “deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
    without due process of law.” See also Fifth Amendment to the United States
    Constitution; Ohio Constitution Article I, Section 16. The United States Supreme
    Court has recognized that “the convicted felon does not forfeit all constitutional
    protections by reason of his conviction and confinement in prison. He retains a
    variety of important rights that the courts must be alert to protect.” Meachum v.
    Fano, 
    427 U.S. 215
    , 225, 
    96 S.Ct. 2532
    , 
    49 L.Ed.2d 451
     (1976). “Inmates retain, for
    example, the right to be free from racial discrimination, * * * the right to due process,
    * * * and * * * certain protections of the First Amendment * * *.” Shaw v. Murphy,
    
    532 U.S. 223
    , 228-229, 
    121 S.Ct. 1475
    , 
    149 L.Ed.2d 420
     (2001).
    The liberty interests protected under the Due Process Clause become
    limited to “the most basic” when the claimant is a prison inmate. Hewitt v. Helms,
    
    459 U.S. 460
    , 467, 
    103 S.Ct. 864
    , 
    74 L.Ed.2d 675
     (1983) (“We have repeatedly said
    both that prison officials have broad administrative and discretionary authority over
    the institutions they manage and that lawfully incarcerated persons retain only a
    narrow range of protected liberty interests.”).
    It is with that context in mind that I turn to the United States
    Supreme Court’s two-step analysis for constitutional challenges based on due
    process violations: “We first ask whether there exists a liberty or property interest
    of which a person has been deprived, and if so we ask whether the procedures
    followed by the State were constitutionally sufficient.” Swarthout v. Cooke, 
    562 U.S. 216
    , 219, 
    131 S.Ct. 859
    , 
    178 L.Ed.2d 732
     (2011).
    B. Is There a Liberty Interest in the Reagan Tokes Law?
    I recognize that the lead opinion assumes that R.C. 2967.271(B)
    creates a liberty interest. Because of the significance of the implications that flow
    from the liberty interest, I fully analyze the issue and conclude that R.C. 2967.271(B)
    does create a liberty interest.
    A “liberty interest may arise from the Constitution itself, by reason
    of guarantees implicit in the word ‘liberty’” or “from an expectation or interest
    created by state laws or policies * * *.” Wilkinson v. Austin, 
    545 U.S. 209
    , 221, 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
     (2005), citing Vitek v. Jones, 
    445 U.S. 480
    , 493-494,
    
    100 S.Ct. 1254
    , 
    63 L.Ed.2d 552
     (1980) (liberty interest in avoiding involuntary
    psychiatric treatment) and Wolff v. McDonnell, 
    418 U.S. 539
    , 555-556, 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
     (1974) (liberty interest in avoiding the withdrawal of state-
    created system of good-time credits). To analyze whether there is a liberty interest
    in the Reagan Tokes Law, I look first to United States Supreme Court authority, then
    to Ohio law for guidance.
    In Wolff, prison inmates in Nebraska challenged a state statute that
    authorized each penal facility to reduce an inmate’s “good-time credit” if the inmate
    engaged in “flagrant or serious misconduct.” 
    Id. at 545-546
    . The United States
    Supreme Court found that the state of Nebraska “itself has not only provided a
    statutory right to good time but also specifies that it is to be forfeited only for serious
    misbehavior.” 
    Id. at 557
    . Therefore, the court held, “the prisoner’s interest has real
    substance and is sufficiently embraced within the Fourteenth Amendment ‘liberty’
    to entitle him to those minimum procedures appropriate under the circumstances
    and required by the Due Process Clause to insure that the state-created right is not
    arbitrarily abrogated.” 
    Id.
    In a different setting, a California parole statute created a liberty
    interest by providing that the prison board ‘“shall set a release date unless it
    determines that * * * consideration of the public safety requires a more lengthy
    period of incarceration.’” Swarthout, 
    562 U.S. at 216-217
    , 
    131 S.Ct. 859
    , 
    178 L.Ed.2d 732
    , quoting Cal. Penal Code Ann. 3041(b). When a state “creates a liberty interest,
    the Due Process Clause requires fair procedures for its vindication — and * * * courts
    will review the application of those constitutionally required procedures.”
    Swarthout at 220.
    Further guidance is found in Wilkinson. The United States Supreme
    Court made clear that inmates may have “a protected, state-created liberty interest
    in avoiding restrictive conditions of confinement” depending not on the particular
    language of the regulations regarding the conditions “but the nature of those
    conditions themselves ‘in relation to the ordinary incidents of prison life.’”
    Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 223
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
    , quoting Sandin v.
    Conner, 
    515 U.S. 472
    , 484, 
    115 S.Ct. 2293
    , 
    132 L.Ed.2d 418
     (1995). The Sandin Court
    stated that “[t]he time has come to return to the due process principles” focusing on
    “the nature of the deprivation” rather than based on “the language of a particular
    regulation * * *.” 
    Id. at 481-483
    .
    As courts throughout Ohio have reviewed the constitutionality of the
    Reagan Tokes Law, many look to case law dealing with parole revocation and parole
    eligibility for guidance. Compare State v. Guyton, 12th Dist. Butler No. CA2019-12-
    203, 
    2020-Ohio-3837
    , ¶ 17 (“The hearings conducted by the [DRC] under
    R.C. 2967.271(C) are analogous to parole revocation proceedings, probation
    revocation proceedings, and postrelease control violation hearings * * *”) with State
    v. Leet, 2d Dist. Montgomery No. 28670, 
    2020-Ohio-4592
    , ¶ 17 (“requiring a
    defendant to remain in prison beyond the presumptive minimum term is akin to the
    decision to grant or deny parole * * *” rather than parole revocation).
    The distinction between parole eligibility and parole revocation is
    significant when discussing due process because the liberty interest in parole
    revocation — which entails taking someone’s freedom away — is much greater than
    the liberty interest in parole eligibility — which typically entails the hope or
    anticipation of freedom. See Greenholtz v. Inmates of Nebraska Penal & Corr.
    Complex, 
    442 U.S. 1
    , 9, 
    99 S.Ct. 2100
    , 
    60 L.Ed.2d 668
     (1979) (“There is a crucial
    distinction between being deprived of a liberty one has, as in [revocation of] parole,
    and being denied a conditional liberty that one desires[,]” as in “discretionary parole
    release from confinement” or parole eligibility.). See also Wolff, U.S. 539 at 560, 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
     (“Simply put, revocation proceedings determine whether
    the parolee will be free or in prison, a matter of obvious great moment to him.”).
    In Ohio, parole revocation, unlike parole eligibility, “implicates a
    liberty interest which cannot be denied without certain procedural protections.”
    State ex rel. Jackson v. McFaul, 
    73 Ohio St.3d 185
    , 186, 
    652 N.E.2d 746
     (1995). See
    also R.C. 2967.15(B). However, there is no presumption of release on parole in Ohio,
    thus there is no liberty interest at stake in parole eligibility proceedings. Ohio
    Adm.Code 5120:1-1-07(A) states that “[a]n inmate may be released on or about the
    date of his eligibility for release, unless the parole board * * * determines that he
    should not be released on such date for” various reasons. (Emphasis added.) Ohio
    Adm.Code 5120:1-1-07(C) states that “[t]he consideration of any single factor, or any
    group of factors, shall not create a presumption of release on parole * * *.” This court
    has held that a “prisoner who is denied parole is not thereby deprived of ‘liberty’ if
    state law makes the parole decision discretionary. Under R.C. 2967.03, the parole
    decision is discretionary.” State v. Ferguson, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 82984, 2004-
    Ohio-487, ¶ 9-10. Compare Swarthout, 
    562 U.S. at 216-217
    , 
    131 S.Ct. 859
    , 
    178 L.Ed.2d 732
    , quoting Cal. Penal Code Ann. 3041(b) (the prison board ‘“shall set a
    release date unless it determines that * * * consideration of the public safety requires
    a more lengthy period of incarceration.’”).
    Unlike Ohio’s parole eligibility proceedings, the Reagan Tokes Law
    includes an express presumption of release: “When an offender is sentenced to a
    nonlife felony indefinite prison term, there shall be a presumption that the person
    shall be released from service of the sentence on the expiration of the offender’s
    minimum prison term * * *.” R.C. 2967.271(B). That presumption of release is
    repeated in R.C. 2967.271(C): “Unless the [DRC] rebuts the presumption, the
    offender shall be released from service of the sentence on the expiration of the
    offender’s minimum prison term* * *.” A liberty interest may arise “from an
    expectation or interest created by state laws or policies.” Wolff at 557. The plain
    language of the Reagan Tokes Law creates an expectation of release.
    I would find that, like the Nebraska statute in Wolff and the
    California statute in Swarthout, the Reagan Tokes Law creates a liberty interest. I
    would also find that, like the nature of the deprivation found in Wilkinson and
    Sandin, Ohio prison inmates have an inherent liberty interest in being released from
    confinement on their presumptive release date under the Reagan Tokes Law. I agree
    with the Twelfth District Court of Appeals’ opinion in Guyton, 12th Dist. Butler No.
    CA2019-12-203, 
    2020-Ohio-3837
    , that the presumptive release date mandate is
    more akin to parole revocation proceedings than parole eligibility proceedings. The
    liberty interest at stake here is the inmate’s freedom.
    C. What Process is Due?
    Concluding — not assuming — the creation of a liberty interest, I turn
    my attention to what process is due in light of that liberty interest. “Our courts have
    long recognized that due process requires both notice and an opportunity to be
    heard.” In re Thompkins, 
    115 Ohio St.3d 409
    , 
    2007-Ohio-5238
    , 
    875 N.E.2d 582
    ,
    ¶ 13. “[T]he fundamental requisite of due process of law is the opportunity to be
    heard in a meaningful time and in a meaningful manner.” Woods v. Telb, 
    89 Ohio St.3d 504
    , 514, 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
     (2000). Additionally, in the criminal context, the
    accused is entitled to fair notice of what conduct is “punishable.” State v. Philpotts,
    
    2019-Ohio-2911
    , 
    132 N.E.3d 743
     (8th Dist.). “This refers to the principle that due
    process requires criminal statutes to be written clearly so that individuals are
    provided with a fair warning that a certain conduct is within the statute’s
    prohibition.” Id. at ¶ 44.
    “It is axiomatic that due process ‘is flexible and calls for such
    procedural protections as the particular situation demands.’” Greenholtz, 
    442 U.S. at 12
    , 
    99 S.Ct. 2100
    , 
    60 L.Ed.2d 668
    , quoting Morrissey v. Brewer, 
    408 U.S. 471
    ,
    481, 
    92 S.Ct. 2593
    , 
    33 L.Ed.2d 484
     (1972). In considering what process is due to
    protect the liberty interest created by the Reagan Tokes Law, I am mindful that the
    United States Supreme Court recognized that:
    Lawful imprisonment necessarily makes unavailable many rights and
    privileges of the ordinary citizen, a “retraction justified by the
    considerations underlying our penal system.” Price v. Johnston, 334
    US. 266, 285, 
    68 S.Ct. 1049
    , 
    92 L.Ed. 1356
     (1948). But though his
    rights may be diminished by the needs and exigencies of the
    institutional environment, a prisoner is not wholly stripped of
    constitutional protections when he is imprisoned for crime. There is
    no iron curtain drawn between the Constitution and the prisons of this
    country. * * * Prisoners may * * * claim the protections of the Due
    Process Clause. They may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property
    without due process of law.
    Wolff, 
    418 U.S. at 555-556
    , 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
    .
    To analyze what process is due, the United States Supreme Court has
    provided a framework requiring consideration of three factors:
    First, the private interest that will be affected by the official action;
    second, the risk of an erroneous deprivation of such interest through
    procedures used, and the probable value, if any, of additional or
    substitute procedural safeguards; and finally, the Government’s
    interest, including the function involved and the fiscal and
    administrative burdens that the additional or substitute procedural
    requirement would entail.
    Mathews v. Eldridge, 
    424 U.S. 319
    , 335, 
    96 S.Ct. 893
    , 
    47 L.Ed.2d 18
     (1976). See
    also Wilkinson, 
    545 U.S. at 224-225
    , 
    125 S.Ct. 2384
    , 
    162 L.Ed.2d 174
    .
    The Mathews factors should be balanced. In removing an individual
    from free society for a parole violation, as in Morrissey, or revoking good-time
    credits based on some specific serious misbehavior, as in Wolff, “more formal,
    adversary-type procedures” might be useful; on the other hand, “where the inquiry
    draws more on the experience of prison administrators, and where the State’s
    interest implicates the safety” of others, more informal, nonadversarial procedures
    are more appropriate. Wilkinson at 229.
    Applying the Mathews factors to the Reagan Tokes Law, I would find
    that the private interest is an inmate’s freedom; the risk of erroneous deprivation is
    high, even taking into consideration the diminished protection afforded a prison
    inmate; and the government’s interest in running prisons is strong and its resources
    are scarce.
    As explained by the Morrissey Court “the minimum requirements of
    due process” include the following for parole revocation proceedings:
    (a) written notice of the claimed violations of parole; (b) disclosure to
    the parolee of evidence against him; (c) opportunity to be heard in
    person and to present witnesses and documentary evidence; (d) the
    right to confront and cross-examine adverse witnesses (unless the
    hearing officer specifically finds good cause for not allowing
    confrontation); (e) a “neutral and detached” hearing body such as a
    traditional parole board, members of which need not be judicial officers
    or lawyers; and (f) a written statement by the factfinders as to the
    evidence relied on and reasons for revoking parole.
    Morrissey, 
    408 U.S. at 489
    , 
    92 S.Ct. 2593
    , 
    33 L.Ed.2d 484
    . The Morrissey due
    process safeguards have been applied to proceedings other than parole revocation.
    Gagnon v. Scarpelli, 
    411 U.S. 778
    , 
    93 S.Ct. 1756
    , 
    36 L.Ed.2d 656
     (1973) (applying
    Morrissey’s due process requirements regarding parole revocation hearings to
    probation violation hearings); Woods, 
    89 Ohio St.3d 504
    , 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
     (applying
    Morrissey’s due process requirements to postrelease control violation hearings).
    In the context of prison discipline, the Wolff Court held that inmates
    facing a reduction of their good-time credit must be provided “advance written
    notice of the claimed violation and a written statement of the factfinders as to the
    evidence relied upon and the reasons for the disciplinary action taken.” Wolff, 
    418 U.S. at 563
    , 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
    . Specifically, the court held that “written
    notice of the charges must be given to the disciplinary-action defendant in order to
    inform him of the charges and to enable him to marshal the facts and prepare a
    defense.” 
    Id. at 564
    . Additionally, “the inmate facing disciplinary proceedings
    should be allowed to call witnesses and present documentary evidence in his defense
    when permitting him to do so will not be unduly hazardous to institutional safety or
    correctional goals.” 
    Id. at 566
    . The Wolff Court concluded that “some, but not all,
    of the procedures specified in Morrissey * * * must accompany the deprivation of
    good time by state prison authorities,” although the procedures are “not graven in
    stone.” 
    Id. at 571-572
    .
    In the context of a statutorily created liberty interest in parole, the
    Swarthout Court found the due process “procedures required are minimal.”
    Swarthout, 
    562 U.S. at 220
    , 
    131 S.Ct. 859
    , 
    178 L.Ed.2d 732
    . The prisoners at issue
    received adequate process when “[t]hey were allowed to speak at their parole
    hearings and to contest the evidence against them, were afforded access to their
    records in advance, and were notified as to the reasons why parole was denied.” 
    Id. at 221
    .
    D. Does the Reagan Tokes Law Satisfy the Requirements of Due
    Process?
    Next, I turn to whether the procedures identified in R.C. 2967.271 for
    rebutting the presumptive release date and extending the prison term are sufficient
    to protect inmates’ due process rights in light of the guidance as discussed in this
    opinion.
    For the reasons that follow, I disagree with the holdings in both
    Wilburn and Simmons, where this court determined that the Reagan Tokes Law
    provides adequate due process safeguards, including “notice and an opportunity to
    be heard.” Simmons, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109476, 
    2021-Ohio-939
    , at ¶ 21, citing
    Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109507, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    , at ¶ 36. In Wilburn and
    Simmons, this court supported its conclusion by referring to R.C. 2967.271(C)(1),
    (2), and (3); R.C. 2967.271(E); and various provisions of the Ohio Administrative
    Code, none of which provide any due process protections to defendants in the
    rebuttable presumption hearings. See Wilburn at ¶ 31-36, and Simmons at ¶ 21. The
    lead opinion relies on an internal policy that became effective approximately 16
    months after Delvallie’s sentencing. This policy is similarly insufficient to save
    R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) in this facial challenge to the statute, as will be discussed
    in response to the lead opinion.
    R.C. 2967.271(C) does not set forth any procedures for the rebuttable
    presumption hearing, and most importantly, it does not require that the hearing be
    meaningful. The only guidance the statute gives is (a) the DRC may rebut the
    presumption of release, and (b) the DRC decides whether it has done so. See
    generally Columbus-Suburban Coach Lines v. Pub. Utils. Comm., 
    20 Ohio St.2d 125
    , 127, 
    254 N.E.2d 8
     (1969) (“In determining legislative intent it is the duty of this
    court to give effect to the words used, not to delete words used or insert words not
    used.”).
    Subsections (1), (2), and (3) of R.C. 2967.271(C) set forth behavior
    and circumstances that may serve as the basis for the DRC to rebut the presumption
    of release. For example, the DRC may rely on certain prison rule infractions
    committed by the offender while incarcerated as part of the rebuttable presumption
    hearing. Ohio Adm.Code 5120-9-06 defines DRC “disciplinary violations * * * of
    institutional or departmental rules and regulations,” and Ohio Adm.Code 5120-9-
    08 and 5120-9-10 set forth disciplinary procedures for adjudicating prison rule
    infractions and restrictive housing assignments. However, how — if at all — those
    administrative rules overlap with or apply to the Reagan Tokes Law rebuttable
    presumption hearing is wholly unexplained by the Reagan Tokes Law. See R.C.
    2967.271(C)(1)(a).   Importantly, nothing in R.C. 2967.271(C) limits the DRC’s
    consideration of an inmate’s prison rule infractions to infractions that have gone
    through the administrative process outlined in the Ohio Administrative Code.
    Moreover, the DRC may rebut the presumption of release based on
    the inmate having “committed a violation of law that was not prosecuted.”
    R.C. 2967.271(C)(1)(a). The statute does not provide that the inmate be notified that
    he or she is being accused of committing a violation of law that has not been
    prosecuted or be present at the rebuttable presumption hearing, much less that he
    or she be given an opportunity to defend against the allegation of such unprosecuted
    crime.
    Furthermore, if a rule infraction or an unprosecuted crime is relied
    on by the DRC to rebut the presumption of release, the DRC must also establish that
    the “offender has not been rehabilitated” and that the “offender continues to pose a
    threat to society.” R.C. 2967.271(C)(1)(a) and (b). Again, the statute is silent on
    whether the offender will be provided information about the factual basis the DRC
    intends to rely on to establish either of these necessary elements for rebuttal, and
    the statute makes no provision for the offender to be given an opportunity to rebut
    the DRC’s assertions.
    If the DRC determines that the DRC has rebutted the presumption of
    release pursuant to R.C. 2967.271(C), the DRC “may maintain the offender’s
    incarceration * * * after the expiration of the offender’s minimum prison term * * *
    for an additional period of incarceration determined by the [DRC] and shall not
    exceed the offender’s maximum prison term.” R.C. 2967.271(D). There are no
    guidelines whatsoever concerning how the DRC makes its decisions under
    subsection (D). Additionally, R.C. 2967.271(D) does not provide for a hearing
    separate from the rebuttable presumption hearing required under subsection (C).
    R.C. 2967.271(E) does not protect prison inmates’ due process rights.
    Subsection (E) states that the DRC “shall provide notices of hearings to be conducted
    under division (C) or (D) of this section in the same manner, and to the same
    persons, as specified in section 2967.12 and Chapter 2930 of the Revised Code with
    respect to hearings to be conducted regarding the possible release on parole of an
    inmate.”12 R.C. 2967.12 addresses individuals and entities to whom notice shall be
    given in the event the adult parole authority recommends a pardon or commutation,
    or grants parole. R.C. Chapter 2930 outlines victims’ rights. Specifically, subsection
    (E) provides for notice of the Reagan Tokes Law rebuttable presumption hearings
    12  A rebuttable presumption hearing is required under the Reagan Tokes Law only
    under subsection (C). Subsection (D) does not provide for a hearing, other than the
    potential for subsequent subsection (C) rebuttable presumption hearings should the DRC
    decide to extend the inmate’s stay in prison beyond the presumptive release date after the
    initial rebuttable presumption hearing.
    to be given to the prosecuting attorney from the inmate’s case; the judge or presiding
    judge of the court in which the inmate was indicted; the victims or victims’
    representatives of the crimes of which the inmate was convicted; and certain law
    enforcement agencies. Nothing in subsection (E) provides notice of the rebuttable
    presumption hearing to the inmate.
    In Wilburn, this court held that the Reagan Tokes Law provides a
    “hearing at which an inmate can appear and present statements on his behalf.”
    Wilburn, 8th Dist. Cuyahoga No. 109507, 
    2021-Ohio-578
    , at ¶ 32, citing Greenholtz
    
    442 U.S. at 15
    , 
    99 S.Ct. 2100
    , 
    60 L.Ed.2d 668
    . See also Simmons, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 109476, 
    2021-Ohio-939
    , at ¶ 21. But, as discussed, nothing in
    R.C. 2967.271(C) or (E) establishes that the inmate can appear and present
    statements on his or her behalf at the rebuttable presumption hearing.
    While R.C. 2967.271 provides for a rebuttable presumption hearing,
    nothing in the statute requires that this hearing be meaningful. There is no
    provision in the Reagan Tokes Law that the inmate be made aware of the evidence
    the DRC intends to use to rebut the presumption, “be heard in person,” be allowed
    “to present witnesses and documentary evidence,” or be allowed “to confront and
    cross-examine” witnesses. Morrissey, 
    408 U.S. at 489
    , 
    92 S.Ct. 2593
    , 
    33 L.Ed.2d 484
    . Nothing in the statute provides that the inmate will receive notice of the
    allegations with ample time to “give the charged party a chance to marshal the facts
    in his defense and to clarify what the charges are * * *.” Wolff, 
    418 U.S. at 564
    , 
    94 S.Ct. 2963
    , 
    41 L.Ed.2d 935
    . Nothing requires the determinations to be made by
    independent, neutral, and detached decisionmakers. No provision requires the
    factfinders to explain their determinations. In other words, the Reagan Tokes Law
    does not provide the due process safeguards set forth in Morrissey, Wolff, and their
    progeny.
    The Reagan Tokes Law, as written, does not afford inmates a
    meaningful hearing, which is the fundamental element of due process required by
    the liberty interest the statute itself creates. In other words, without looking at
    extrinsic facts or speculating about hypothetical or imaginary scenarios, which is not
    proper in the analysis of a facial challenge to the constitutionality of a statute, the
    Reagan Tokes Law is incompatible with constitutional due process. I am mindful
    that the analogy of Reagan Tokes Law proceedings and parole revocation or prison
    discipline proceedings may not be perfectly on point. Such is the nature of analogies.
    However, I conclude that the Reagan Tokes Law triggers more than the minimum
    due process protections. The Morrissey and Wolff requirements should serve as
    guidelines for Reagan Tokes Law proceedings. Of particular concern is how these
    proceedings will impact inmates who suffer from mental-health and substance-
    abuse issues. But failing to provide an inmate the right to present a defense — any
    defense at all — flies in the face of well-established due process jurisprudence at its
    very core.
    The Ohio legislature knows how to include due process safeguards in
    statutes. For example, in R.C. 2967.28(E)(5)(d), the legislature authorized the DRC
    to adopt rules in accordance with Chapter 119 of the Revised Code that “[e]stablish
    standards to be used by the adult parole authority in imposing further sanctions” for
    postrelease control violations, “including standards that * * * [e]nsure procedural
    due process to an alleged violator * * *.” As another example, the legislature
    expressly specified due process protections in R.C. 2971.04,13 which addresses
    parole board termination of its control over certain offenders’ service of their prison
    terms. That statute itself provides “The offender has the right to be present at any
    hearing held under this section. At the hearing, the offender and the prosecuting
    attorney may make a statement and present evidence as to whether the parole board
    should terminate its control over the offender’s service of the prison term * * *.”
    I conclude in this dissent that subsections (C) and (D) are
    unconstitutional. However, I stop short of delineating the procedural safeguards
    necessary to align the statute’s proceedings with the Fourteenth Amendment to the
    United States Constitution and Article I, Section 16, of the Ohio Constitution. See
    generally Sandin, 
    515 U.S. at 482
    , 
    115 S.Ct. 2293
    , 
    132 L.Ed.2d 418
     (noting the
    negative effects of involving the “courts in the day-to-day management of prisons,
    often squandering judicial resources with little offsetting benefit to anyone. In doing
    so, it has run counter to the view expressed in several of our cases that federal courts
    13  The lead opinion opines that because this dissent finds an express delegation of
    authority in R.C. 2971.04, “R.C. 2967.271 should also pass constitutional muster * * *.”
    This is a non sequitur. R.C. 2967.271 is different from R.C. 2971.04 precisely in that it
    does not include an express delegation of rulemaking authority. The lead opinion also
    claims that “[u]nder R.C. 2967.271(C), the [DRC] undertakes the hearing to decide the
    release question through its parole board based on evidence presented to the inmate from
    the prison infraction process.” However, the words “parole”; “board”; “based”;
    “evidence”; and “presented” are not in R.C. 2967.271(C). R.C. 2967.271(C) contains no
    procedural mandates.
    ought to afford appropriate deference and flexibility to state officials trying to
    manage a volatile environment”). What process is due is a malleable concept, and
    one I think better left to the legislature to sort out. Courts cannot simply rewrite a
    statute to make it constitutional. Pratte v. Stewart, 
    125 Ohio St.3d 473
    , 2010-Ohio-
    1860, 
    929 N.E.2d 415
    , ¶ 54.
    III. Response to the Lead Opinion
    Finally, a few words in response to the lead opinion. In the case at
    hand, Delvallie disputes the constitutionality of the Reagan Tokes Law in this facial
    challenge. When reviewing a facial challenge, courts “must be careful not to exceed
    the statute’s actual language * * *.” Wymsylo, 
    132 Ohio St.3d 167
    , 
    2012-Ohio-2187
    ,
    
    970 N.E.2d 898
    , at ¶ 21. This principal is important to bear in mind in this en banc
    proceeding. While I share the lead opinion’s appreciation for a public policy that
    incentivizes good behavior and rehabilitation of inmates, that laudable goal is not
    sufficient to save an unconstitutional statute.
    A.    R.C. 2967.271 (C) and (D) — and Not the Entire Reagan Tokes
    Law — are Unconstitutional
    The lead opinion repeatedly mischaracterizes this dissenting opinion
    as attempting to declare the entire Reagan Tokes Law unconstitutional and 53
    statutory sections unenforceable “with no analysis.” This is simply not accurate.
    Rather, this dissent cites the specific offending statutory provisions,
    concludes that subsections (C) and (D) of R.C. 2967.271 are unconstitutional, and
    analyzes due process in general, what constitutes a liberty interest, what process is
    due, and whether the Reagan Tokes Law’s procedures for denying inmates their
    liberty interest in being released from prison on their presumptive release date
    satisfy due process requirements.
    A reviewing court need not declare an entire statutory scheme
    unconstitutional to conclude that a particular statute is unenforceable. A digression
    to introduce an analogy is apropos at this time. If a car’s transmission or engine
    fails, this car may be undriveable. Does this mean that the entire car is broken? Not
    necessarily. A faulty engine or transmission, by itself, is nothing more than a faulty
    engine or transmission. However, this faulty component is integral enough to the
    whole that its failure may render the car unusable. Just like the statute at issue in
    the case at hand, the unconstitutionality of R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D), which cannot
    be severed, render the indefinite sentences imposed under the Reagan Tokes Law
    “unusable” — not unconstitutional, but inoperable.
    The lead opinion further assumes that because Sealey affirmed the
    trial court’s holding that the Reagan Tokes Law is unconstitutional, the Sealey panel
    necessarily did so using the same reasoning that the trial court used. Specifically,
    the lead opinion states as follows: “While it may have been the panel’s intent to only
    find subsections (C) and (D) of R.C. 2967.271 unconstitutional, the net effect of the
    panel’s ruling affirmed the trial court’s holding that the ‘Reagan Tokes Law’ is
    unconstitutional in its entirety.” Ante at ¶ 3. This is simply not accurate. Sealey’s
    clear, autonomous, and precise reasoning declared R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D)
    unconstitutional. It is well-established that “[i]t is the duty of the reviewing court to
    affirm the judgment if it can be supported on any theory, although a different theory
    from that of the trial court.” Newcomb v. Dredge, 
    105 Ohio App. 417
    , 424, 
    152 N.E.2d 801
     (2d Dist.1957). “This is so because reviewing courts affirm and reverse
    judgments, not the reasons for the judgments.”           Geneva v. Fende, 11th Dist.
    Ashtabula No. 2009-A-0023, 
    2009-Ohio-6380
    , ¶ 33.
    B. No Policy is at Issue Here, and a Policy Does Not Have the Force
    and Effect of Law
    The lead opinion posits that the Reagan Tokes Law is constitutional
    because DRC Policy 105-PBD-15 rescues the statute by providing due process
    protections. This argument fails.
    First, DRC Policy 105-PBD-15 is not being appealed in this case. That
    policy was not in effect at the time the parties brought this appeal, it was not in effect
    at the time the parties submitted their briefs, and it was not in effect at the time the
    parties participated in oral argument in this case. It is not before this court to
    consider whether the DRC policy provides due process protections that are absent
    from the statute. See State v. Tate, 
    140 Ohio St.3d 442
    , 
    2014-Ohio-3667
    , 
    19 N.E.3d 888
    .
    Second, a policy is not a rule.          The lead opinion repeatedly
    mischaracterizes DRC Policy 105-PBD-15 as an administrative “rule,” which has the
    force of law, when, in fact, it is a policy, which does not have the force of law.
    Importantly, the legislature did not delegate, or even attempt to delegate, any
    rulemaking authority in R.C. 2967.271.
    The Ohio Supreme Court has held that an administrative rule “issued
    pursuant to statutory authority has the force and effect of law * * *.” Kroger Grocery
    & Baking Co. v. Glander, 
    149 Ohio St. 120
    , 125, 
    77 N.E.2d 921
     (1948).                An
    administrative rule, promulgated pursuant to R.C. Chapter 119, goes through
    extensive review and comment prior to being afforded the authority of law.
    Administrative rulemaking is subject to the conditions set out in
    R.C. 119.01 to 119.13. Generally, these conditions require that notice be
    given of a public hearing to be held on a proposed rule, where persons
    affected thereby may comment and present evidence pertaining to the
    unreasonable or unlawful effect of the rule. R.C. 119.03(A). The rule is
    then reviewed by the Joint Committee on Agency Rule Review, which
    may, under certain circumstances, recommend that the General
    Assembly adopt a resolution invalidating the rule. R.C. 119.03(I).
    Assuming that the rule is not invalidated at this point, it is still subject
    to invalidation at the next regular session of the General Assembly.
    R.C. 119.03(I)(2)(b). If the rule is not invalidated at that session, then
    the agency may issue an order adopting the rule. R.C. 119.03(D).
    Chambers v. St. Mary’s School, 
    82 Ohio St.3d 563
    , 567, 
    697 N.E.2d 198
     (1998), fn. 2.
    See also R.C. 111.15.
    An example of a legislative delegation of rulemaking authority can be
    found in R.C. 2967.15(B), which governs parole revocation hearings:
    Except as otherwise provided in this division, prior to the revocation by
    the adult parole authority of a person’s pardon, parole, or other release
    and prior to the imposition by the parole board or adult parole
    authority of a new prison term as a post-release control sanction for a
    person, the adult parole authority shall grant the person a hearing in
    accordance with rules adopted by the department of rehabilitation
    and correction under Chapter 119. of the Revised Code.
    (Emphasis added.)
    Unlike the parole revocation statute, the Reagan Tokes Law’s
    provisions at R.C. 2967.271 do not contain an R.C. Chapter 119 — or any — express
    delegation of rulemaking authority.
    Agency policies,14 on the other hand, do not have the same force and
    effect as laws. See Oko v. Mohr, 11th Dist. Ashtabula No. 2011-A-0045, 2012-Ohio-
    1450, ¶ 16 (“Relator * * * cites to the [DRC’s] “Reception Admission Procedure” as
    an Administrative Rule. It is not such a rule but instead is a policy issued by the
    [DRC] pursuant to R.C. 5120.01 * * *”); State ex rel. Estate of Sziraki v. Admr., Bur.
    of Workers’ Comp., 10th Dist. Franklin No. 10AP-267, 
    2011-Ohio-1486
     (noting that
    a Bureau of Workers’ Compensation policy “is not an administrative rule and was
    not promulgated pursuant to either the BWC’s or the commission’s rule-making
    authority. As such, this policy does not have the same effect as law”).
    The proposition that not every agency directive has the force and
    effect of law is further supported by the Ohio Supreme Court’s recent decision in
    O’Neal v. State, Slip Opinion No. 
    2021-Ohio-3663
     (Oct. 19, 2021). At issue in O’Neal
    is 01-COM 11, which is “a written execution protocol * * * that sets forth the specific
    process by which DRC personnel are to carry out death sentences by lethal
    injection.” Id. at ¶ 1. The O’Neal Court found that, “[i]n adopting 01-COM-11, DRC
    did not follow Ohio’s procedures for formal rulemaking set forth in R.C. 111.15.”15
    14Executive policies may be made with or without delegation; they may be
    enforceable or unenforceable; they may be constitutional or unconstitutional. But they
    never have the force and effect of law. It remains, however, that no policy is being
    challenged in this en banc proceeding.
    15 “R.C. Chapter 119, the Ohio Administrative Procedure Act, applies to most state
    administrative agencies, and R.C. 111.15 specifies the rulemaking procedure for most
    agencies not covered by R.C. Chapter 119.” State ex rel. Ryan v. State Teachers Ret. Syst.,
    
    71 Ohio St.3d 362
    , 366, 
    653 N.E.2d 1122
     (1994). The O’Neal Court stated that “[w]e will
    * * * look to our precedents in applying R.C. 119.01(C) to help us construe R.C. 115.15(A).”
    O’Neal at ¶ 26.
    "Id. at ¶ 4. In O’Neal, the Ohio Supreme Court reviewed whether 01-COM-11 is a
    rule subject to statutory rule-making requirements. Id. at ¶ 6-7. Put another way,
    “the dispositive issue is whether the execution protocol constitutes a ‘rule’ as defined
    in R.C. 111.15(A)(1).” Id. at ¶ 23.
    The O’Neal Court held that “o1-COM-11 is neither a rule having
    general and uniform application nor an internal-management rule and that it is an
    order dealing with the duties of DRC’s employees. Therefore, DRC was not required
    to file 01-COM-11 pursuant to R.C. 111.15.” Id. at ¶ 62. Thus, the court, as a matter
    of law, drew a clear distinction between a rule and something that is not a rule.
    To further explain this distinction, the court continued: “An action
    that establishes a new policy or standard is a rule under R.C. 119.01(C); one that
    implements or interprets a pre-existing rule or statute is not.” Id. at¶ 27.
    Furthermore, the O’Neal decision concluded that an agency action is
    not a rule just because it was adopted under the authority of R.C. 5120.01. “[W]e
    * * * reject the argument that R.C. 5120.01 requires that all of DRC’s duties be
    carried out pursuant to formally promulgated rules.” Id. at ¶ 55.
    Nothing in O’Neal supports the lead opinion. Nothing in O’Neal has
    any bearing on the constitutionality of R.C. 2967.271(C) or (D) as enacted by the
    legislature.
    The lead opinion’s conclusory statement that “[f]or our purposes, the
    use of the term ‘administrative policy’ is synonymous with ‘administrative rule’” is
    simply not an accurate statement of the law. In fact, the lead opinion correctly notes
    that “there are different requirements for enactment of rules or policies.” The
    difference is substantive, material, and relevant to the discussion at hand. The
    policy that the lead opinion desperately clings to is not at issue or being challenged
    in this case, and it has absolutely no bearing on whether R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D)
    are constitutional. In fact, any substantive analysis of whether DRC Policy 105-PBD-
    15 comports with due process safeguards is not ripe for review and is nothing more
    than an advisory opinion at this point. “It is, of course, well settled that this court
    will not indulge in advisory opinions.” N. Canton v. Hutchinson, 
    75 Ohio St.3d 112
    ,
    114, 
    661 N.E.2d 1000
     (1996).
    The lead opinion relies on Rodriguez v. United States Parole Comm.,
    
    594 F.2d 170
    , 173 (7th Cir.1979), which holds as follows: “When Congress has
    delegated to an agency the authority to make a rule instead of making the rule itself,
    the resulting administrative rule is an extension of the statute for purposes of the
    clause.” Id. at 173. This holding, of course, does not apply to the Reagan Tokes Law
    because, in relation to R.C. 2967.271(C), the legislature has not delegated
    rulemaking authority and the DRC has not made a rule.
    C. R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) Fail to Satisfy the Requirements of
    Due Process Either Expressly Within the Statute or by
    Delegation of Rulemaking Authority
    I agree with the lead opinion that the legislature may expressly write
    constitutional safeguards into a statute, or the legislature may delegate rulemaking
    authority to an executive agency, who, in turn, must promulgate rules “to safeguard
    constitutional concerns.” Ante at ¶ 59. The lead opinion also correctly concludes
    that “R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) do not contain the policies and procedures under
    which the maximum-term hearings will be conducted.” Ante at ¶ 68. Furthermore,
    as the lead opinion aptly points out, “R.C. 2967.271 omits language authorizing [the
    DRC] to draft rules and procedures for the maximum-term hearings * * *.” Ante at
    ¶ 60.
    To put it another way, R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D) provide no due
    process safeguards and are, as a result, unconstitutional. The Ohio legislature
    knows how to include due process safeguards in statutes. See, e.g., R.C. 2967.15
    (governing parole revocation and expressly delegating Chapter 119 rule making
    authority to the DRC); R.C. 2971.04 (governing the parole board’s control over
    sexually violent offenders and providing express due process safeguards within the
    statute). The lead opinion mischaracterizes this dissenting opinion by stating that
    its
    net effect * * * is a declaration that the Ohio legislature may not delegate
    authority to the executive agency through separate provisions of the
    Ohio Revised Code, but must instead provide detailed rules and
    policies within the statutory section that creates the particular process,
    otherwise that statutory provision is unconstitutional.
    Ante at ¶ 65. As explained, that is not the “net effect” of this dissenting opinion,
    which makes no such “declaration.”
    Interestingly, the lead opinion suggests that R.C. 2967.271 passes
    constitutional muster because other Revised Code sections are also silent on due
    process issues. For example, according to the lead opinion, R.C. 2971.04 neither
    provides “the express procedures for conducting a hearing nor an express delegation
    of authority for the executive branch to promulgate those policies, rules, or
    procedures.” Ante at ¶ 61. This is simply not accurate. Among the procedural
    safeguards expressly written into R.C. 2971.04 are the following:
    The parole board shall not terminate its control over the offender’s
    service of the prison term unless it finds at a hearing that the offender
    does not represent a substantial risk of physical harm to others. * * *
    Prior to determining whether to terminate its control over the
    offender’s service of the prison term, the parole board shall request the
    department of rehabilitation and correction to prepare pursuant to
    section 5120.61 of the Revised Code an update of the most recent risk
    assessment and report relative to the offender. The offender has the
    right to be present at any hearing held under this section.
    At the hearing, the offender and the prosecuting attorney may make a
    statement and present evidence as to whether the parole board should
    terminate its control over the offender’s service of the prison term. In
    making its determination as to whether to terminate its control over
    the offender’s service of the prison term, the parole board may follow
    the standards and guidelines adopted by the department of
    rehabilitation and correction under section 5120.49 of the Revised
    Code and shall consider the updated risk assessment and report
    relating to the offender prepared by the department pursuant to section
    5120.61 of the Revised Code in response to the request made under this
    division and any statements or evidence submitted by the offender or
    the prosecuting attorney.
    The lead opinion’s statement that “R.C. 2971.04 is silent as to any
    delegation of authority to promulgate rules * * *” ante at ¶ 61, is both correct and
    irrelevant given that the statute itself mandates due process protections required to
    be afforded to the offender. Delegation is not needed when you do it yourself.
    D. Extending a Prison Term Beyond the Presumptive Release
    Date Does Not Extend the Prison Term Beyond the Maximum
    Sentence Imposed
    The lead opinion states that “an overarching issue that appears to
    permeate every aspect” of a Reagan Tokes constitutionality challenge is “the belief
    that the [DRC] ‘extends’ or ‘imposes’ a prison term under R.C. 2967.271(C) and (D)
    beyond the maximum sentence imposed by the sentencing court.” Ante at ¶ 23. This
    statement is an overgeneralization. This author concludes that R.C. 2967.271(C)
    and (D) are unconstitutional, while recognizing that extending a prison term beyond
    the presumptive release date does not extend the prison term beyond the maximum
    sentence imposed. These two schools of thought can coexist.
    E. Conclusion
    The protected liberty interest created by Reagan Tokes Law is the
    expectation of release from prison on the presumptive release date. In other words,
    the nature of the deprivation at issue is freedom. “Freedom from imprisonment —
    from government custody, detention, or other forms of physical restraint — lies at
    the heart of the liberty that [the constitution] protects.” Zadvydas v. Davis, 
    533 U.S. 678
    , 690, 121 S.Ct.2491, 
    150 L.Ed.2d 653
     (2001).
    [I]t is clear that a convict does not lose all his constitutional rights once
    he enters the prison population; constitutional rights of a fundamental
    nature, adapted to the context and penologic purposes of the
    imprisonment, are still available to him. * * * The extension of
    fundamental fairness to prison inmates is not in any way inconsistent
    with appropriate penologic considerations; indeed, it may well be that
    the grant of basic constitutional rights to prisoners will enhance, rather
    than impede, legitimate penologic ends.
    In re Lamb, 
    34 Ohio App.2d 85
    , 87-88, 
    296 N.E.2d 280
     (8th Dist.1973).
    As written, the Reagan Tokes Law does not satisfy the requirements
    of due process and, as such, subsections (C) and (D) are unconstitutional.
    ANITA LASTER MAYS, J., DISSENTS IN PART AND CONCURS IN PART WITH
    SEPARATE OPINION:
    I respectfully dissent from the majority opinion’s finding that the
    indefinite sentencing scheme under R.C. 2967.271 of the Reagan Tokes Law is
    constitutional, but I concur that the question of constitutionality is ripe for review.
    To that end, the issue has been argued and awaits an opinion is State v. Maddox,
    
    160 Ohio St.3d 1505
    , 
    2020-Ohio-6913
    , 
    159 N.E.3d 1150
    . The certified question in
    Maddox:
    Is the constitutionality of the provisions of the Reagan Tokes Law,
    which allow the Department of Rehabilitation and Correctio[n] to
    administratively extend a criminal defendant’s prison term beyond the
    presumptive minimum term, ripe for review on direct appeal from
    sentencing, or only after the defendant has served the minimum term
    and been subject to extension by application of the Act?
    Maddox at 1151.
    I agree with the argument in Maddox that
    [it] makes no sense to “wait and see” if the Tokes law is unconstitutional
    until after an inmate is held-over because a Byzantine system that
    postpones adjudication until after someone is physically restrained
    under an extended sentence results in the worst legal harm — loss of
    liberty that cannot be retroactively remedied.
    Maddox brief, p. 4.
    I.   Due Process
    I concur in toto with the opinion of the dissent that the Reagan Tokes
    Law at R.C. 2967.271 violates the right to due process of law as was previously
    discussed at length by this author of the original opinion in Delvallie, 8th Dist.
    Cuyahoga No. 109315, 
    2021-Ohio-1809
    . Additionally advanced by Delvallie, I
    would also determine that the Reagan Tokes Law violates the Sixth Amendment
    right to trial by jury and the separation-of-powers doctrine.
    II. Right to Trial by Jury
    The right to trial by jury is protected by the Sixth Amendment of the
    United States Constitution and Article I, Section 5, of the Ohio Constitution. The
    Ohio Supreme Court recently reiterated:
    The Sixth Amendment provides that “[i]n all criminal prosecutions, the
    accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an
    impartial jury.”     This entitles criminal defendants “to a jury
    determination of any fact on which the legislature conditions an
    increase in their maximum punishment.” Ring [v. Arizona], 536 U.S.
    [584,] 589, 
    122 S.Ct. 2428
    , 
    153 L.Ed.2d 556
     [(2002)]. See also Hurst
    [v. Florida, 577] U.S. [92], 
    136 S.Ct. 616
    , 619, 
    193 L.Ed.2d 504
     [2016]
    (“The Sixth Amendment requires a jury, not a judge, to find each fact
    necessary to impose a sentence of death”). Ohio’s death-sentence
    scheme satisfies this right.
    State v. Mason, 
    153 Ohio St.3d 476
    , 
    2018-Ohio-1462
    , 
    108 N.E.3d 56
    , ¶ 19.
    The Sixth Amendment applies to both “the factfinding necessary to
    increase a defendant’s sentence by two years” and “the factfinding necessary to put
    him [or her] to death.” Ring v. Arizona, 
    536 U.S. 584
    , 609. 
    122 S.Ct. 2428
    , 
    153 L.Ed.2d 556
     (2002).
    Delvallie relies on Blakely v. Washington, 
    542 U.S. 296
    , 
    124 S.Ct. 2531
    , 
    159 L.Ed.2d 403
     (2004), that held the Sixth Amendment prohibits a trial judge
    “from making any finding necessary for the imposition of a particular sentence unless
    that finding was reflected in the jury’s verdict.” Appellant’s brief, p. 5. The Blakely
    Court explained that the prohibition does not apply solely to sentences that exceed
    the legislated statutory maximum limit. “[T]he relevant ‘statutory maximum’ is not
    the maximum sentence a judge may impose after finding additional facts.” 
    Id. at 303-304
    . It is “the maximum he [or she] may impose without any additional
    findings.” 
    Id. at 304
    . When a judge inflicts punishment that the jury’s verdict alone
    does not allow, the jury has not found all the facts “‘which the law makes essential to
    the punishment.’” 
    Id.,
     quoting 1 J. Bishop, Criminal Procedure § 87, p 55 2d ed.
    1872. Thus, “the judge exceeds his [or her] proper authority.” Id. at 303-304.
    In the instant case, Delvallie’s presumptive minimum will be increase by
    facts not determined by a jury but in fact by the executive branch. In Alleyne v. United
    States, 570 U.S. at 103, 
    133 S.Ct. 2151
    , 
    186 L.Ed.2d 314
    , the defendant was convicted
    of robbery with a firearm specification. The minimum mandatory term for the
    firearm increased by two years if it was demonstrated that Alleyne brandished the
    firearm during the act.
    Renowned legal scholar Erwin Chemerinsky, currently Dean of the
    University of California at Berkeley School of Law, sagely suggests that “Apprendi
    and its progeny should be seen as establishing a simple proposition: under the Sixth
    Amendment, it is wrong to convict a person of one crime and sentence that person
    for another.” Erwin Chemerinsky, Making Sense of Apprendi and its Progeny,
    McGeorge Law Review, Vol. 37, p. 532 (2006). That is precisely the impact of the
    Reagan Tokes Law.
    I find that the Reagan Tokes Law poses a wholly distinguishable
    situation. “[A]ny increase in a defendant’s authorized punishment contingent on
    the finding of a fact” requires a jury and proof beyond a reasonable doubt “no
    matter” what the government chooses to call the exercise.          United States v.
    Haymond, 588 U.S.         , 
    139 S.Ct. 2369
    , 2379, 
    204 L.Ed.2d 897
     (2019), quoting
    Ring, 
    536 U. S., at 602
    , 
    122 S.Ct. 2428
    , 
    153 L.Ed.2d 556
    . “Any fact that, by law,
    increases the penalty for a crime is an ‘element’ that must be submitted to the jury
    and found beyond a reasonable doubt.” Alleyne, 
    570 U.S. 99
    , 
    109 S.Ct. 2151
    , 
    186 L.Ed.2d 314
    . The “fact” in this case would be whether, after Delvallie is sentenced
    and incarcerated, he allegedly violates an ODRC rule before his presumptive
    minimum term expires.
    The Reagan Tokes Law expressly provides for a minimum term that is
    presumed to be sufficient punishment for the crime committed. An offender will be
    sentenced to serve additional time based on unknown future violations of ODRC
    rules, acts that have yet to be committed, to be solely adjudicated by the ODRC. The
    facts are not submitted to a jury and determined beyond a reasonable doubt.
    I would determine that the Reagan Tokes Law violates the Sixth
    Amendment right to trial by jury. The United States Supreme Court made it clear
    that a Sixth Amendment violation occurs when the facts considered in enhancing the
    minimum or maximum sentence have not been considered by the jury. The
    presumed minimum sentence is enhanced under Reagan Tokes.
    I am reminded that “the Sixth Amendment by its terms is not a
    limitation on judicial power, but a reservation of jury power.” Blakely, 
    542 U.S. 296
    ,
    308, 
    124 S.Ct. 2531
    , 
    159 L.Ed.2d 403
    . “It limits judicial power only to the extent that
    the claimed judicial power infringes on the province of the jury.” 
    Id.
     I am not
    presented here with judicial factfinding based on sentencing factors as is permitted
    where a sentence is rendered within an authorized range as offered by the state, citing
    State v. Bowers, 
    163 Ohio St.3d 28
    , 
    2020-Ohio-5167
    , 
    167 N.E.3d 947
    , ¶ 13.
    “[T]he relevant inquiry is one not of form, but of effect — does the
    required finding expose the defendant to a greater punishment than that authorized
    by the jury’s guilty verdict?” (Fn. omitted.) Apprendi, at 
    530 U.S. at 476, 494
    , 
    120 S.Ct. 2348
    , 
    147 L.Ed.2d 435
    .       Clearly, it does.    It also bears repeating that
    consideration of sentencing factors allows the trial court to consider factors to
    determine the term of punishment for acts that were committed and convicted prior
    to sentencing. That is not the case under the Reagan Tokes Law. Instead, the role of
    the jury is usurped not by the trial court, but by the ODRC based on conduct wholly
    unrelated to Delvallie’s convictions and prophetic punishment.
    III. Separation of Powers
    I would also find that the Reagan Tokes Law constitutes the
    legislative delegation of judicial powers to the executive branch of government. The
    Ohio Supreme Court explained:
    “The people possessing all governmental power, adopted constitutions
    completely distributing it to appropriate departments.” Hale v. State,
    
    55 Ohio St. 210
    , 214, 
    45 N.E. 199
    , 200 (1896). They vested the
    legislative power of the state in the General Assembly (Section 1,
    Article II, Ohio Constitution), the executive power in the Governor
    (Section 5, Article III, Ohio Constitution), and the judicial power in the
    courts (Section 1, Article IV, Ohio Constitution). They also specified
    that “the general assembly shall [not] * * * exercise any judicial power,
    not herein expressly conferred.” Section 32, Article II, Ohio
    Constitution.
    State ex rel. Ohio Academy of Trial Lawyers v. Sheward, 
    86 Ohio St.3d 451
    , 462,
    
    715 N.E.2d 1062
     (1999).
    The courts “‘possess all powers necessary to secure and safeguard
    the free and untrammeled exercise of their judicial functions and cannot be directed,
    controlled or impeded therein by other branches of the government.’” State v.
    Thompson, 
    92 Ohio St.3d 584
    , 586, 
    752 N.E.2d 276
     (2001), quoting State ex rel.
    Johnston v. Taulbee, 
    66 Ohio St. 2d 417
    , 
    423 N.E.2d 80
     (1981), paragraph two of the
    syllabus, approving and following State ex rel. Foster v. Lucas Cty. Bd. of Commrs.,
    
    16 Ohio St.2d 89
    , 
    242 N.E.2d 884
     (1968), paragraph two of the syllabus. “‘It is
    indisputable that it is a judicial function to hear and determine a controversy
    between adverse parties, to ascertain the facts, and, applying the law to the facts, to
    render a final judgment.’” 
    Id.,
     quoting Fairview v. Giffee, 
    73 Ohio St. 183
    , 190, 
    76 N.E. 865
     (1905).
    The Ohio Supreme Court, in State ex rel. Bray v. Russell, 
    89 Ohio St.3d 132
    , 
    729 N.E.2d 359
     (2000), declared former R.C. 2967.11, known as the “bad-
    time statute” unconstitutional. The statute allowed the parole board to punish a rule
    violation by extending the stated prison term. Pertinent here, the court explained
    that “[p]rison discipline is an exercise of executive power and nothing in this opinion
    should be interpreted to suggest otherwise.”        Id. at 136.    “However, trying,
    convicting, and sentencing inmates for crimes committed while in prison is not an
    exercise of executive power.” Id.
    Delvallie contends that both the bad-time provision addressed in
    Bray and the Reagan Tokes Law “provide for the executive branch prison system to
    tell an inmate that the sentence imposed by the judge is not enough and that the
    inmate will be serving a longer sentence as a result of an executive agency’s
    determination.” Appellant’s brief, p. 9. The state counters that Woods v. Telb, 
    89 Ohio St.3d 504
    , 
    733 N.E.2d 1103
     (2000), and State ex rel. Atty. Gen. v. Peters, 
    43 Ohio St. 629
    , 647, 
    4 N.E. 81
     (1885), govern.
    Woods involved a challenge to former R.C. 2967.28 and the ODRC’s
    management of postrelease-control (“PRC”) violations. The court determined the
    PRC statute was constitutional and did not violate the separation of powers or due
    process clauses of the federal and state constitutions. Woods distinguished PRC
    from bad time on the ground that PRC is part of the “original judicially imposed
    sentence.” 
    Id. at 512
    . The court explained that PRC “sanctions are sanctions aimed
    at behavior modification in the attempt to reintegrate the offender safely into the
    community, not mere punishment for an additional crime, as in bad time.” 
    Id.
    Unlike Bray and the Reagan Tokes Law, PRC is not imposed based
    on behavior that took place during the offender’s incarceration. I do not find that
    Delvallie’s reliance on Bray is misplaced. In Bray, the prisoners were sentenced to
    additional terms of incarceration for acts committed in prison during their term of
    incarceration.
    Under the Reagan Tokes Law, a defendant is sentenced to a
    “minimum prison term” that the court may choose from the listed term choices in
    the statute:
    (1) “Offender’s minimum prison term” means the minimum prison
    term imposed on an offender under a non-life felony indefinite prison
    term, diminished as provided in section 2967.191 or 2967.193 of the
    Revised Code or in any other provision of the Revised Code, other than
    division (F) of this section, that provides for diminution or reduction of
    an offender’s sentence.
    R.C. 2967.271(A)(1). R.C. 2967.271(B) adds “there shall be a presumption” that the
    offender will be released “on the expiration of the offender’s minimum prison term
    or on the offender’s presumptive earned early release date, whichever is earlier.” 
    Id.
    The   law   also   includes   an    early   release   mechanism    at
    R.C. 2967.271(F). An offender may be granted early release that shall be for five to
    fifteen percent of the offender’s presumptive minimum term “determined in
    accordance with rules adopted by the department under division (F)(7) of this
    section.” R.C. 2967.271(F)(1)(b).      Early release is labeled the “[o]ffender’s
    presumptive earned early release date.” R.C. 2967.271(A)(2).
    The ODRC develops the rules for what is required for a reduction
    recommendation, including offense levels.            ODRC assembles supporting
    information and makes a recommendation to the sentencing court to receive
    approval for early release. A court hearing is conducted, and the prosecutor and
    victim, if any, may present information. Documents and reports may also be
    submitted. If the court determines that the early release presumption has not been
    rebutted by the presence of the cited factors, the reduction will be granted.
    Under R.C. 2967.271(F)(5), the court must provide the offender with
    notice of approval or denial of early release to the ODRC within 60 days. If the court
    denies the reduction, “[t]he court shall specify in the notification the reason or
    reasons for which it found that the presumption was rebutted and disapproved the
    recommended reduction.” R.C. 2967.271(F)(5).         Notably, the statute does not
    provide for notice to the offender, participation by the offender, submission of
    information by the offender, or appeal of the decision.
    The Reagan Tokes Law specifies that the ODRC “shall” release the
    offender on the presumptive release date unless ODRC unilaterally determines that
    the offender is guilty of committing one of the acts cited in R.C. 2967.271(B) during
    his or her incarceration. Clearly, the presumptive minimum term is deemed to be
    punishment commensurate with the crime committed. The sentencing court, based
    on the facts underlying the convictions that were authorized by the jury within the
    limits set forth by the legislature, imposed the presumed minimum date.
    R.C. 2967.271(C)     outlines   the   ODRC’s     minimum-sentence-
    presumption-rebuttal process and includes an overview of the broad range of
    behaviors that may be employed to rebut an offender’s presumptive release date.
    Under R.C. 2967.271(D), the ODRC promulgates the rules, has unfettered discretion
    to determine what charges to initiate against the offender, investigates the charges,
    serves as the adjudicator and factfinder and determines how far beyond the
    presumed release date the offender shall remain in prison. The ODRC will set a
    reconsideration date for release and this process may occur multiple times but may
    not exceed the maximum sentence.
    The R.C. 2971.271(F) early release provision is based on factors
    similar to those employed by the ODRC to rebut the presumptive minimum term
    release. This bolsters the conclusion proffered by Reagan Tokes Law opponents that
    the maximum term is a sanction for acts that the ODRC determines violate the rules
    and regulations of the institution or other illegal acts.
    As stated in Bray, “[p]rison discipline is an exercise of executive
    power and nothing in this opinion should be interpreted to suggest otherwise.”
    Bray, 89 Ohio St.3d at 136, 
    729 N.E.2d 359
    . “[T]rying, convicting, and sentencing
    inmates for crimes committed while in prison is not an exercise of executive power.”
    Bray at 136. Imposition of the rather elaborate protocol under the Reagan Tokes
    Law doesnot alter the fact that the ODRC executive branch is “trying, convicting,
    and sentencing inmates for crimes committed while in prison.” 
    Id.
    “The reason the legislative, executive, and judicial powers are
    separate and balanced is to protect the people, not to protect the various branches
    of government.” Bray at 135.
    Recently recognized in State v. Hursey, Franklin C.P. No. 20 CR
    004459, 
    2021 Ohio Misc. LEXIS 101
     (Aug. 6, 2021), “[t]he separation of powers
    violation raised by S.B. 201’s indeterminate sentencing scheme is not prospectively
    cured by the court acknowledging its mechanics at sentencing.” Hursey at ¶ 11.
    Hursey observed that courts that hold the separation-of-powers doctrine is not
    violated “appear to be predicating that conclusion by analogy to the somewhat
    different setting of post-release control, and the sentencing colloquy that trial courts
    caution defendants about PRC violations.” Id. at ¶ 12.
    The court explained the salient fallacy of the position:
    That analogy from a different context is inapposite for several reasons.
    As an initial matter, when a defendant commits a new crime while on
    post release control, that new crime is prosecuted in the ordinary
    course, adjudicated by judge and jury, and then sentenced as a function
    of the court’s core judicial function. By contrast, when a defendant
    serving an indeterminate sentence under [the Reagan Tokes Law] is
    accused of committing a new crime while in prison, every aspect of the
    resulting prosecution, adjudication, and sentencing can remain with
    ODRC, resulting in years of new incarceration for a wholly new crime,
    imposed by jailer without resort to judge.
    Hursey at ¶ 12.
    In addition, the Hursey court recognized that:
    the prophylactic caution that the sentencing court provides on the front
    end about [the Reagan Tokes Law’s] indeterminate sentencing
    mechanism in no way meaningfully involves a judge in the eventual
    subsequent imposition of a longer-than-minimum sentence. To begin
    with, the Court exercises no discretion about any part of the initial
    sentence aside from setting that original minimum sentence. The
    maximum sentence the court recites is determined solely as a function
    of mathematics, and under the current law, the court has no discretion
    whether any part of that longer sentence might be imposed or avoided,
    in whole or in part, on the facts before it at sentencing of the original
    crime. Nor, obviously, is the Court able to give any meaningful
    consideration to whatever additional alleged violations or crimes might
    someday be used by the executive to add years of additional sentencing
    later on facts that have not yet transpired. All the Court is doing in that
    colloquy is acknowledging that under [the Reagan Tokes Law], some
    part of the executive branch might unilaterally intrude into a core
    judicial function on facts not yet known, and not then subject to judicial
    review.
    Hursey, Franklin C.P. No. 20 CR 004459, 
    2021 Ohio Misc. LEXIS 101
    , at ¶ 12-13.
    “[T]he Court is merely apprising the defendant that under S.B. 201,
    a Separation of Powers violation may someday occur for any alleged violation or
    crime to which the Defendant is subsequently accused while incarcerated.” Hursey
    at ¶ 13. “Nothing about such a notice could possibly cure the violation when it later
    happens.” Id. at ¶ 14.
    I find that the Reagan Tokes Law violates the separation-of-powers
    doctrine.
    

Document Info

Docket Number: 109315

Citation Numbers: 2022 Ohio 470

Judges: S. Gallagher

Filed Date: 2/17/2022

Precedential Status: Precedential

Modified Date: 2/17/2022

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