In the Int. of: A.L., Appeal of: L.L. ( 2022 )


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    NON-PRECEDENTIAL DECISION - SEE SUPERIOR COURT I.O.P. 65.37
    IN THE INTEREST OF: A.L., A MINOR     :   IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
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    APPEAL OF: L.L., MOTHER               :
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    :   No. 4 EDA 2022
    Appeal from the Order Entered November 30, 2021
    In the Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County Juvenile Division at
    No(s): CP-51-DP-0002397-2014
    IN THE INTEREST OF: A.A.L.-W., A      :   IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
    MINOR                                 :        PENNSYLVANIA
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    APPEAL OF: L.L., MOTHER               :
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    :   No. 5 EDA 2022
    Appeal from the Decree Entered November 30, 2021
    In the Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County Juvenile Division at
    No(s): CP-51-AP-0000221-2021
    IN THE INTEREST OF: B.L., A MINOR     :   IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
    :        PENNSYLVANIA
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    APPEAL OF: L.L., MOTHER               :
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    :   No. 6 EDA 2022
    Appeal from the Order Entered November 30, 2021
    In the Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County Juvenile Division at
    No(s): CP-51-DP-0001506-2017
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    IN THE INTEREST OF: B.M.A.L., A            :   IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
    MINOR                                      :        PENNSYLVANIA
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    APPEAL OF: L.L., MOTHER                    :
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    :   No. 7 EDA 2022
    Appeal from the Decree Entered November 30, 2021
    In the Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County Juvenile Division at
    No(s): CP-51-AP-0000222-2021
    BEFORE: BENDER, P.J.E., BOWES, J., and DUBOW, J.
    MEMORANDUM BY BOWES, J.:                                  FILED JUNE 10, 2022
    L.L. (“Mother”) appeals from the November 30, 2021 decrees that
    terminated involuntarily her parental rights to A.L., born in August 2012, and
    B.L., born in January 2017,1 as well as the orders entered the same date that
    changed each child’s permanent placement goal to adoption.2 We affirm.
    We glean the following from the record. Mother has a long history with
    the Philadelphia Department of Human Services (“DHS”). DHS first became
    involved with the family in 2005 due to neglect and abuse of older siblings of
    A.L. and B.L. and, inter alia, parental substance abuse and housing concerns.
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    1The captions alternatively refer to the children, respectively, by the initials
    A.A.L.-W. and B.M.A.L. We use A.L. and B.L. within this memorandum.
    2The trial court also entered separate decrees terminating the rights of each
    child’s biological or putative father. No father has participated in Mother’s
    appeal or filed his own appeal. This Court consolidated Mother’s appeals sua
    sponte.
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    In mid-2014, DHS reengaged due to Mother’s substance abuse and lack of
    housing. DHS obtained an order of protective custody, removed A.L. from
    Mother’s care, and placed A.L. in kinship care. Shortly thereafter, the court
    adjudicated A.L. dependent. At the time of B.L.’s birth in January 2017, A.L.
    remained dependent and out of Mother’s care.
    When B.L. was four months old, she suffered severe burns on her body.
    Mother failed to obtain prompt medical care and when she did seek care,
    hospital staff disbelieved Mother’s account that B.L. was briefly exposed to hot
    water. Given the extent and severity of her burns, staff determined that B.L.
    had to have had prolonged exposure to hot water.        Furthermore, the staff
    were concerned about Mother’s lack of cooperation with B.L.’s treatment and
    signs of intoxication.   Upon B.L.’s discharge, DHS obtained an order of
    protective custody, removed B.L. from Mother’s care, and placed B.L. in
    kinship care. The court subsequently adjudicated B.L. dependent.
    In August 2018, the court returned A.L. and B.L. to Mother’s custody.
    It continued to oversee B.L.’s dependency case until the court closed it in
    March 2019, and A.L.’s dependency case until the court closed it in June.
    Reunification was short-lived. In August 2019, DHS learned that Mother had
    left A.L. and B.L. with their maternal grandmother for about six weeks with
    no contact. When DHS went to Mother’s home, staff observed that Mother
    appeared to be either under the influence of a substance or suffering from
    poor mental health. Therefore, DHS obtained an order of protective custody
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    to remove A.L. and B.L. from the home where they had been staying, which,
    as a result of Mom banging on the side of the house and the vehicle of DHS
    staff, required police assistance. DHS placed A.L. and B.L. in separate foster
    homes.3 In September 2019, the court adjudicated A.L. and B.L. dependent.
    The court ordered Mother to undergo a dual diagnosis (i.e., substance
    abuse and mental health) assessment, provide urinalysis, abide by DHS’s
    single case plan objectives, and provide proof of income.       It granted her
    supervised visitation at DHS. DHS’s objectives for Mother included stabilizing
    her mental health, addressing her substance abuse, providing appropriate
    housing, strengthening and maintaining her bond with A.L. and B.L., and
    enhancing her parental capacities.
    On April 21, 2021, DHS filed a petition to terminate involuntarily
    Mother’s parental rights to A.L. and B.L. pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 2511(a)(1),
    (2), (5), (8), and (b). It also filed petitions seeking to change the permanency
    goal for A.L. and B.L. from reunification to adoption.
    The trial court conducted a joint hearing on DHS’s petitions on
    November 30, 2021.4          DHS presented the testimony of Aaron Redd, who
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    3 At the time of the termination and goal change hearings, A.L. resided in a
    pre-adoptive foster home. B.L.’s foster home was not pre-adoptive but, as
    discussed infra, both children had an alternate adoptive resource potentially
    available via an adult sibling.
    4At the time of the hearing, A.L. was nine and B.L. was four. Daniel Kurland,
    Esquire, represented A.L. and B.L. as guardian ad litem, while Linda Walters,
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    worked as a case manager at the Community Umbrella Agency (“CUA”)
    assigned to the family.       Mother arrived late to the hearing after Mr. Redd
    concluded his testimony. Mother then testified on her own behalf. At the
    conclusion of the hearing, the court entered decrees involuntarily terminating
    Mother’s parental rights under all subsections pleaded, as well as separate
    orders changing the permanency goals to adoption.
    Mother timely filed the instant notices of appeal from the termination
    decrees and goal change orders concurrently with concise statements of
    matters complained of on appeal. The trial court issued an opinion pursuant
    to Pa.R.A.P. 1925(a). In her appeals from the termination decrees, Mother
    raises identical issues for each child as follows:
    1. Did the trial court err as a matter of law or abused [sic] its
    discretion where it determined that the requirements of 23
    Pa.C.S.[ §] 2511(a) to terminate [Mother’s] parental rights
    were met?
    2. Did the trial court err as a matter of law or abused [sic] its
    discretion where it determined the requirements of 23
    Pa.C.S.[ §] 2511(b) were met?
    Mother’s brief (5 EDA 2022) at 3; Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 3. As to the
    dependency orders, Mother raises the following identical issue for each child:
    1. Did the trial court err as a matter of law or abused [sic] its
    discretion where it determined that the permanency goal for
    [A.L. and B.L.] should be changed to adoption?
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    Esquire, represented them as legal counsel. Attorney Kurland’s appointment
    as legal counsel ended following the hearing. We note with displeasure that
    Attorney Walters has not filed a brief on behalf of A.L. and B.L. on appeal.
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    Mother’s brief (4 EDA 2022) at 3; Mother’s brief (6 EDA 2022) at 3.
    We begin with Mother’s appeals from the decrees terminating her
    parental rights, which we review mindful of our well-settled standard of
    review. “In cases concerning the involuntary termination of parental rights,
    appellate review is limited to a determination of whether the decree of the
    termination court is supported by competent evidence.” In re Adoption of
    C.M., 
    255 A.3d 343
    , 358 (Pa. 2021).        When applying this standard, the
    appellate court must accept the trial court’s findings of fact and credibility
    determinations if they are supported by the record. Interest of S.K.L.R.,
    
    256 A.3d 1108
    , 1123 (Pa. 2021). “Where the trial court’s factual findings are
    supported by the evidence, an appellate court may not disturb the trial court’s
    ruling unless it has discerned an error of law or abuse of discretion.” In re
    Adoption of L.A.K., 
    265 A.3d 580
    , 591 (Pa. 2021).
    “[A]n abuse of discretion does not result merely because the reviewing
    court might have reached a different conclusion” or “the facts could support
    an opposite result.” In re Adoption of S.P., 
    47 A.3d 817
    , 826-27 (Pa. 2012).
    Instead, an appellate court may reverse for an abuse of discretion “only upon
    demonstration of manifest unreasonableness, partiality, prejudice, bias, or ill-
    will.” Id. at 826. This standard of review reflects the deference we pay to
    trial courts, who often observe the parties first-hand across multiple hearings.
    Interest of S.K.L.R., supra, at 1123-24.
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    In considering a petition to terminate parental rights, a trial court must
    balance the parent’s fundamental “right to make decisions concerning the
    care, custody, and control” of his or her child with the “child’s essential needs
    for a parent’s care, protection, and support.”     C.M., supra, at 358.      The
    moving party must establish the statutory grounds by clear and convincing
    evidence, which is evidence that is so “clear, direct, weighty, and convincing
    as to enable a trier of fact to come to a clear conviction, without hesitance, of
    the truth of the precise facts in issue.” Id. at 359 (citation omitted).
    Termination of parental rights is governed by § 2511 of the Adoption
    Act and requires a bifurcated analysis.      “Subsection (a) provides eleven
    enumerated grounds describing particular conduct of a parent which would
    warrant involuntary termination.”    Id.; see also 23 Pa.C.S. § 2511(a)(1)-
    (11). In evaluating whether the petitioner proved grounds under § 2511(a),
    the trial court must focus on the parent’s conduct and avoid using a “balancing
    or best interest approach.”     Interest of L.W., 
    267 A.3d 517
    , 524 n.6
    (Pa.Super. 2021).    If the trial court determines the petitioner established
    grounds for termination under § 2511(a) by clear and convincing evidence,
    the court then must assess the petition under § 2511(b), which focuses on
    the child’s needs and welfare. In re T.S.M., 
    71 A.3d 251
    , 267 (Pa. 2013).
    This Court need only agree with any one subsection of § 2511(a), in
    addition to § 2511(b), to affirm the termination of parental rights. See In re
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    B.L.W., 
    843 A.2d 380
    , 384 (Pa.Super. 2004) (en banc). We focus our analysis
    on § 2511(a)(8) and (b), which provide as follows:
    (a) General Rule.—The rights of a parent in regard to a child
    may be terminated after a petition filed on any of the following
    grounds:
    (8) The child has been removed from the care of the parent
    by the court or under a voluntary agreement with an
    agency, 12 months or more have elapsed from the date of
    removal or placement, the conditions which led to the
    removal or placement of the child continue to exist and
    termination of parental rights would best serve the needs
    and welfare of the child.
    ....
    (b) Other considerations.—The court in terminating the rights
    of a parent shall give primary consideration to the developmental,
    physical and emotional needs and welfare of the child. The rights
    of a parent shall not be terminated solely on the basis of
    environmental factors such as inadequate housing, furnishings,
    income, clothing and medical care if found to be beyond the
    control of the parent. With respect to any petition filed pursuant
    to subsection (a)(1), (6) or (8), the court shall not consider any
    efforts by the parent to remedy the conditions described therein
    which are first initiated subsequent to the giving of notice of the
    filing of the petition.
    23 Pa.C.S. § 2511.
    To satisfy § 2511(a)(8), the petitioner must show three components:
    (1) that the child has been removed from the care of the parent for at least
    12 months; (2) that the conditions which led to the removal or placement of
    the child still exist; and (3) that termination of parental rights would best
    serve the needs and welfare of the child. In re Adoption of J.N.M., 
    177 A.3d 937
    , 943 (Pa.Super. 2018).
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    Unlike other subsections, § 2511(a)(8) does not require the court to
    evaluate a parent’s willingness or ability to remedy the conditions that led to
    the placement of the children. In re M.A.B., 
    166 A.3d 434
    , 446 (Pa.Super.
    2017). “[T]he relevant inquiry” regarding the second prong of § 2511(a)(8)
    “is whether the conditions that led to removal have been remedied and thus
    whether reunification of parent and child is imminent at the time of the
    hearing.” In re I.J., 
    972 A.2d 5
    , 11 (Pa.Super. 2009). Further, the Adoption
    Act prohibits the court from considering “any efforts by the parent to remedy
    the conditions described [in the petition] which are first initiated subsequent
    to the giving of notice of the filing of the petition.” 23 Pa.C.S. § 2511(b).
    Although § 2511(a) generally focuses on the behavior of the parent, the
    third prong of § 2511(a)(8) specifically “accounts for the needs of the child.”
    In re C.L.G., 
    956 A.2d 999
    , 1008-09 (Pa.Super. 2008) (en banc). This Court
    has recognized “that the application of [§ 2511(a)(8)] may seem harsh when
    the parent has begun to make progress toward resolving the problems that
    had led to the removal of her children.” In re Adoption of R.J.S., 
    901 A.2d 502
    , 513 (Pa.Super. 2006).
    However, by allowing for termination when the conditions that led
    to removal of a child continue to exist after a year, the statute
    implicitly recognizes that a child’s life cannot be held in abeyance
    while a parent attempts to attain the maturity necessary to
    assume parenting responsibilities. The court cannot and will not
    subordinate indefinitely a child’s need for permanence and
    stability to a parent’s claims of progress and hope for the future.
    Indeed, we work under statutory and case law that contemplates
    only a short period of time, to wit [18] months, in which to
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    complete the process of either reunification or adoption for a child
    who has been placed in foster care.
    
    Id.
    In her briefs, Mother concedes the first prong, i.e., that A.L. and B.L.
    have been removed from her care more than one year. Mother’s brief (5 EDA
    2022) at 17; Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 17. Instead, she focuses on the
    second prong, arguing she has eliminated the conditions that led to the
    removal of A.L. and B.L. Mother’s brief (5 EDA 2022) at 18; Mother’s brief (7
    EDA 2022) at 18. According to Mother, she has completed parenting classes,
    is in therapy and prescribed medication, has obtained housing, and is
    employed. 
    Id.
    Mother’s argument suffers from a major flaw in that it is based solely
    upon her testimony, which the trial court rejected as incredible. See Trial
    Court Opinion, 2/7/22, at 13. The trial court credited the testimony of Mr.
    Redd, who painted a different picture.        Id. at 19.   Under our standard of
    review, we must defer to the trial court’s credibility determinations if they are
    supported by the record. Interest of S.K.L.R., supra, at 1123-24.
    According to Mr. Redd, Mother has made no progress towards alleviating
    the conditions that led to the removal of A.L. and B.L. from Mother’s care.
    N.T., 11/30/21, at 17-18. Through DHS’s extensive history with Mother, she
    has struggled with substance abuse. The second removal of A.L. and B.L.
    occurred after Mother abandoned them with her mother and neglected their
    needs.   Id. at 11.    When DHS located Mother, she displayed aggressive
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    behavior indicative of mental health instability or a lack of sobriety. Although
    the court ordered her at every permanency review hearing to undergo a
    substance abuse assessment and urinalysis, Mother never complied. Id. at
    12-13, 28. Additionally, despite Mother’s claim that she was attending weekly
    mental health therapy, she did not provide documentation when CUA asked
    her to substantiate her attendance. Id. at 13, 50. She also revoked a release
    that previously permitted CUA to obtain information directly from the provider.
    Id. at 13.   The information CUA had obtained from the provider prior to
    Mother’s revocation was that Mother merely had a medical case manager, who
    recommended that Mother enroll in more intensive outpatient services. Id.
    Despite Mother’s assertion to the contrary, DHS was unable to verify
    she had housing. During the dependency cases, Mr. Redd assessed one home,
    which he found inappropriate for reunification with A.L. and B.L. Id. at 14.
    Mother later provided DHS with another address, and Mr. Redd conducted
    “pop up” visits at that address in August 2021. However, he observed no
    signs of Mother living there. Id. In September 2021, Mother told DHS she
    moved from Philadelphia to Harrisburg for a month, but never provided a new
    address to DHS when she returned to Philadelphia. Id. at 14-15.
    Mr. Redd acknowledged Mother’s completion of a parenting program
    early in the case. Id. at 16. Despite this, Mother has not progressed past
    supervised visitation with A.L. and B.L. Her visits originally occurred at DHS.
    At one point, the court permitted one of the foster parents to supervise the
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    visits in the community.      Id.   During those visits, Mother “had a lot of
    argumentative, and bickering moments, and angry outburst[s] with other
    individuals in the area, as well as staff during those visits, making it unsafe
    for [A.L. and B.L.] to be there.” Id. At the August 30, 2021 permanency
    review hearing, the court ordered Mother’s visits to return to DHS under
    supervision. Id. at 16. Despite being permitted to visit every other week,
    Mother only attended two visits between August 30 and November 30, 2021,
    both of which occurred in November. Id. Mother displayed angry outbursts
    toward staff and A.L.’s foster parent at the first visit and hit A.L. at the second
    visit because A.L. “didn’t tell her what she wanted to hear.” Id. at 17.
    Based upon these facts, we discern no abuse of discretion or error of
    law in the trial court’s crediting of Mr. Redd’s testimony and the conclusion
    that the conditions leading to the removal of A.L. and B.L. continued to exist
    more than twelve months after their removal.           In fact, although Mother
    apparently made enough progress in the past to achieve reunification, the
    same recurring issues of substance abuse, unstable mental health, and
    housing transience have plagued her throughout the lives of A.L. and B.L. She
    has not been able to achieve sustained stabilization.
    Likewise, we discern no abuse of discretion or error of law in the trial
    court’s conclusion that termination best served the welfare of A.L. and B.L.
    pursuant to § 2511(a)(8). A.L. has spent six years of her life in foster care –
    from ages two to six, then again from ages seven to nine. B.L. has spent over
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    three years in foster care. Thus, the court was well within its discretion to
    prioritize the needs for permanency and stability of A.L. and B.L. over Mother’s
    claim she was ready for reunification. See R.J.S., supra, at 513.
    Having determined that DHS met its burden under § 2511(a), the court
    then turned to § 2511(b), which required the court to “give primary
    consideration to the developmental, physical and emotional needs and welfare
    of the child.” 23 Pa.C.S. § 2511(b). “The emotional needs and welfare of the
    child have been properly interpreted to include intangibles such as love,
    comfort, security, and stability.” T.S.M., supra, at 267 (cleaned up). Our
    Supreme Court has made clear that § 2511(b) requires the trial court to
    consider the nature and status of bond between a parent and child. In re
    E.M., 
    620 A.2d 481
    , 484-85 (Pa. 1993). Nevertheless, “the mere existence
    of a bond or attachment of a child to a parent will not necessarily result in the
    denial of a termination petition.”   T.S.M., supra, at 267. In evaluating a
    parent-child bond, the court does not have to use expert testimony, and it
    may rely upon the testimony of social workers and caseworkers. In re Z.P.,
    
    994 A.2d 1108
    , 1121 (Pa.Super. 2010). To the extent there is a bond, the
    trial court must examine whether termination of parental rights will destroy a
    “necessary and beneficial relationship,” thereby causing a child to suffer
    “extreme emotional consequences.” E.M., supra, at 484-85.
    “While a parent’s emotional bond with his or her child is a major aspect
    of the [§] 2511(b) best-interest analysis, it is nonetheless only one of many
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    factors to be considered by the court when determining what is in the best
    interest of the child.” In re M.M., 
    106 A.3d 114
    , 118 (Pa.Super. 2014). “In
    addition to a bond examination, the trial court can equally emphasize the
    safety needs of the child, and should also consider the intangibles, such as
    the love, comfort, security, and stability the child might have with the foster
    parent.”   
    Id.
       In determining needs and welfare, the court may properly
    consider the effect of the parent’s conduct upon the child and consider
    “whether a parent is capable of providing for a child’s safety and security or
    whether such needs can be better met by terminating a parent’s parental
    rights.” L.W., supra, at 524.
    Furthermore, our Supreme Court has stated, “[c]ommon sense dictates
    that courts considering termination must also consider whether the children
    are in a pre-adoptive home and whether they have a bond with their foster
    parents.” T.S.M., supra, at 268. The Court directed that, in weighing the
    bond considerations pursuant to § 2511(b), “courts must keep the ticking
    clock of childhood ever in mind.” Id. at 269. The T.S.M. Court observed,
    “[c]hildren are young for a scant number of years, and we have an obligation
    to see to their healthy development quickly. When courts fail . . . the result,
    all too often, is catastrophically maladjusted children.” Id.
    In the instant case, Mother makes two primary arguments concerning
    the needs and welfare of A.L. and B.L.        We address each seriatim.   First,
    Mother claims terminating her rights does not serve the needs and welfare of
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    A.L. and B.L because she has a strong bond with them. Mother’s brief (5 EDA
    2022) at 22; Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 22.5 Specifically, she asserts she
    has visited when she could and has taken an active interest in them. Id.
    The trial court found DHS met its burden in establishing that terminating
    Mother’s parental rights best served the needs and welfare of A.L. and B.L.
    Specifically, Mother’s “noncompliance” with services meant to rectify her
    issues, combined with her “lack of participation in supervised visits” and
    “problematic behavior” during the visits she did attend, resulted in her failure
    to establish a “healthy beneficial parental bond” with A.L. or to create any
    bond at all with B.L. Trial Court Opinion, 2/7/22, at 26.
    The trial court based its conclusions upon the testimony of Mr. Redd.
    Regarding A.L., Mr. Redd testified that A.L. recognizes Mother as her parent,
    but there is “no significant bond between them as [Mother] has not really been
    around most of [A.L.’s] life” or been a “parental figure for her.”         N.T.,
    11/30/21, at 19. In his view, terminating Mother’s parental rights would not
    result in “irreparable harm” to A.L. and would provide her “a better option for
    growth and prosperity within her life.” Id.
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    5 We observe that Mother’s counsel has inexplicably included a paragraph
    within this argument concerning “Father,” “S.S.,” and a different CUA
    caseworker, as well as quotations attributed to a trial court opinion that do
    not appear within the underlying trial court opinion. See Mother’s brief (5
    EDA 2022) at 21-22; Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 21-22.
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    Regarding B.L., Mr. Redd testified that there is no parent/child bond
    because B.L. has spent most of her life out of Mother’s care. Id. at 31. During
    her visits with Mother, B.L. spent most of the time interacting with her siblings,
    not Mother. Id. at 30. Mr. Redd viewed termination of Mother’s rights as the
    outcome most supportive of B.L.’s best interests so that B.L. could seek long-
    term permanency in a home where she can grow and prosper. Id. at 31-32.
    In support of her argument that A.L. and B.L. have an “extensive bond”
    with her, Mother emphasizes that “even Mr. Redd testified that the
    conversation with the [c]hildren about not seeing their mother would be so
    hard on them that he didn’t even bother to have that conversation.” Mother’s
    brief (5 EDA 2022) at 22-23; Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 22-23.            She
    claims that because Mr. Redd knew the news would “upset” them, particularly
    A.L., the trial court abused its discretion in finding termination of Mother’s
    rights best served the children’s needs and welfare. Mother’s brief (5 EDA
    2022) at 22; Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 22.
    It appears that Mother is referring to the following exchange between
    Mr. Redd and Mother’s counsel at the termination hearing:
    [Mother’s counsel:] [W]hen you discussed it with [A.L.], did you
    explain to her that she would no longer be
    able to visit with [Mother] if [Mother’s] rights
    were terminated?
    [Mr. Redd:]           As I have not discussed with [A.L.], no.
    Again, the question would be, “Would you be
    okay with staying with the individual long
    time [sic]?” Reporting to [A.L.] that she
    can’t see her mommy anymore would
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    probably cause a lot of issues between me
    and her, and I don’t want to cause that
    between her and me. I like to keep it as
    positive as possible. But she is aware that
    she would not be going back to her mom, and
    she is okay with going with her sister or
    staying with her current foster parent.
    [Mother’s counsel:] Does she look forward to visits with her mom?
    [Mr. Redd:]             No.
    [Mother’s counsel:] Will she be upset if she’s no longer able to
    visit with her mom?
    [Mr. Redd:]             That’s unknown at this time. Her last visit,
    she didn’t even want to attend.
    N.T., 11/30/21, at 27.
    Mr. Redd’s testimony illustrates nothing more than his reluctance to tell
    A.L. that she may not see Mother anymore.6 His statement does not relate to
    B.L. whatsoever, despite Mother’s attempt to lump the children together.
    Moreover, Mother’s counsel did not ask Mr. Redd to elaborate on what type of
    issues he thought it would cause A.L.
    Even if we inferred, as Mother does, that Mr. Redd did not want to tell
    A.L. that visits would cease because he thought it would upset her, that does
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    6 As we mentioned, the court did appoint legal counsel to represent A.L.
    Attorney Walters determined based on her conversations with A.L. that she
    does not understand the differences between adoption and legal custody, but
    Attorney Walters was able to discern some preferences from A.L. N.T.,
    11/30/21, at 62-63. Attorney Walters reported that A.L. is close with her
    teenage sister A.L.-W., who is in treatment-level foster care. Id. at 62-64,
    71. According to Attorney Walters, A.L. wishes to be with her sister A.L.-W.
    and does not prefer to stay at her foster home. Id. at 63.
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    not establish a fortiori that the trial court erred or abused its discretion in
    terminating her parental rights. The standard is not whether A.L. would be
    upset. Many children, even those with only a minimal bond with a parent,
    would be upset upon learning that they may not see a parent anymore. See
    T.S.M., supra, at 267 (noting “it is ‘an immutable psychological truth’ that
    ‘even the most abused of children will often harbor some positive emotion
    towards the abusive parent’”) (citing In re K.K.R.-S., 
    958 A.2d 529
    , 535
    (Pa.Super. 2008). Instead, the court was tasked with considering whether
    A.L.’s relationship with Mother was so necessary and beneficial to her that she
    would suffer extreme emotional consequences if the court terminated Mother’s
    parental rights. See E.M., supra, at 484-85. Nothing in the record suggests
    after spending six years in foster care over two periods of her life that A.L.
    would suffer this level of harm from terminating Mother’s parental rights.
    In her second argument, Mother maintains that terminating her rights
    does not serve the needs and welfare of A.L. and B.L. because their foster
    parents are not meeting their needs. Mother’s brief (5 EDA 2022) at 19, 23;
    Mother’s brief (7 EDA 2022) at 19, 23. Specifically, Mother claims A.L.’s foster
    parent is neglecting her educational needs and mental health because her
    individual education plan (“IEP”) was “not up to date” and A.L. is eligible for
    in-home services but not receiving them.      Id.   She makes a similar claim
    regarding B.L.’s mental health, assailing her foster parent’s declination to take
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    B.L. to a behavioral program recommended by the Children’s Hospital of
    Philadelphia because it was too far away. Id.
    Contrary to Mother’s argument, Mr. Redd specifically testified that A.L.’s
    IEP is up to date and accounts for her needs. N.T., 11/30/21, at 36. The
    problem with the IEP was not that it was out of date, but that A.L.’s school
    had not been providing her with the speech and occupational therapies she is
    supposed to receive in accordance with the IEP. Id. Mr. Redd acknowledged
    this and stated that “we’re working with the school to get that rectified.” Id.
    Mr. Redd also described A.L.’s mental health needs and her difficulties
    with impulse control. Id. at 37. To assist with this, she was taking Adderall
    on a trial basis and was awaiting the next available re-evaluation appointment
    to determine whether that was the most appropriate medication. Id. at 36-
    37.   While Mother is correct that A.L. was not receiving behavioral health
    support at the time of the hearing, A.L.’s foster parent and Mr. Redd were
    “working diligently” on finding A.L. a therapeutic support staff worker since
    the organization where she had been receiving services had no available staff.
    Id. at 37.
    Turning to B.L., she attends a Head Start educational program. Id. The
    school referred B.L. to a behavioral program due to her behaviors in school.
    Id. Mr. Redd explained her “foster parent was unable to make that travel to
    that location” and he is exploring other places for “childhood therapy or
    programs.” Id. Like her argument regarding A.L., Mother urges us to make
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    inferences that are not warranted by the sparse information in the record.
    The record contains no details on the location of the program, whether the
    foster parent’s declination was reasonable, how long B.L. has been without
    assistance, or the nature of B.L.’s behaviors.
    Moreover, Mother’s critiques of the care A.L. and B.L were receiving in
    foster care ignores that one of her own goals for reunification was ensuring
    that the educational and mental health needs of A.L. and B.L. were being met,
    yet she provided no testimony on any attempts she made to address their
    needs. Instead, Mother claimed Mr. Redd would not provide her information
    regarding the children’s education and behavioral health. However, the court
    did not find Mother’s description of her relationship with Mr. Redd to be
    credible. See Trial Court Opinion, 2/7/22, at 13. According to Mr. Redd, A.L.’s
    relationship with her foster parent is “very positive.” N.T., 11/30/21, at 20.
    The foster parent, who is part of an organization called Turning Points for
    Children and Specialized Behavioral Health Foster Care, provides a “very
    structured environment” in which A.L. is “doing very well.”         Id. at 18.
    Previously, A.L. was very dependent, but the foster parent is teaching A.L.
    independent skills. Id. A reward system used by the foster parent has helped
    significantly decrease A.L.’s temper tantrums. Id. Her family goes on a lot
    of outings, such as the circus, and A.L. is “pretty happy.”      Id. at 29-30.
    Additionally, while previous foster and kinship parents failed to recognize or
    obtain help for A.L.’s struggles with reading, since she has been in her current
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    foster home, she has made educational progress. Id. B.L.’s foster parent is
    meeting her safety, medical, dental, and vision needs. Id. at 33.
    DHS is also exploring an adult sibling of A.L. and B.L. as an adoptive
    placement; this sibling lives in Delaware and is participating in the Interstate
    Compact on the Placement of Children process. Id. The adult sibling is an
    adoptive resource for both A.L. and B.L. and currently visits with one or more
    of the siblings at least once a month at her home in Delaware. Id. at 26.
    We defer to the court’s assessment of Mr. Redd’s credibility as it is
    supported by the record. A.L. and B.L. have high level of needs, and Mr. Redd
    testified he is working with their foster parents and other resources to ensure
    those needs can be met long-term. The court was within its discretion to
    conclude that Mother is not able to meet the needs and welfare of A.L. and
    B.L. and that terminating her rights best serves their needs and welfare.
    Accordingly, no relief is due with respect to the termination decrees.
    Finally, we turn to Mother’s appeals from the goal change orders, which
    we review for an abuse of discretion. In re R.J.T., 
    9 A.3d 1179
    , 1190 (Pa.
    2010). When considering a goal change petition, “[t]he best interests of the
    child, and not the interests of the parent, must guide the trial court. As this
    Court has held, a child’s life simply cannot be put on hold in the hope that the
    parent will summon the ability to handle the responsibilities of parenting.” In
    re A.B., 
    19 A.3d 1084
    , 1089 (Pa.Super. 2011) (citations and quotation marks
    omitted).    Stated succinctly, given Mother’s continued struggles with
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    instability in her own life, the sheer amount of time A.L. and B.L. have spent
    in foster care, and the need for A.L. and B.L. to achieve stability in their own
    lives, the court’s decision to change the permanency goal was well within its
    discretion.
    Based on the foregoing, we affirm the decrees terminating Mother’s
    parental rights and the orders changing the permanency goals to adoption.
    Decrees affirmed. Orders affirmed.
    Judge Dubow did not participate in the consideration or decision of this
    case.
    Judgment Entered.
    Joseph D. Seletyn, Esq.
    Prothonotary
    Date: 6/10/2022
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