Commonwealth v. Spanier , 2016 Pa. Super. 14 ( 2016 )


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    2016 Pa. Super. 14
    COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA,                         IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF
    PENNSYLVANIA
    Appellee
    v.
    GRAHAM B. SPANIER,
    Appellant                      No. 304 MDA 2015
    Appeal from the Order Entered January 14, 2015
    In the Court of Common Pleas of Dauphin County
    Criminal Division at No(s): CP-22-CR-0003615-2013
    BEFORE: BOWES, JENKINS, AND PLATT,* JJ.
    OPINION BY BOWES, J.:                                  FILED JANUARY 22, 2016
    Graham B. Spanier appeals from the order denying his pre-trial
    motions to preclude the introduction of testimony of Cynthia Baldwin 1 and
    quash certain criminal charges against him based on violations of the
    attorney-client privilege.2 We find that Ms. Baldwin breached the attorney-
    client    privilege   and   was    incompetent   to    testify   as   to   confidential
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    1
    Ms. Baldwin is a former Justice of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
    Consistent with the parties and trial court below, and to avoid confusion, we
    have not referred to her as Justice Baldwin since she was not acting in a
    judicial capacity.
    2
    We have jurisdiction over this appeal pursuant to the collateral order
    doctrine codified at Pa.R.A.P. 313. See Commonwealth v. Schultz, __
    A.3d __ (Pa.Super. 2015).
    *
    Retired Senior Judge assigned to the Superior Court.
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    communications between her and Spanier during her grand jury testimony.
    Accordingly, we reverse the trial court’s determination otherwise, and quash
    the charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy related to
    those counts.
    The Commonwealth has charged Spanier with perjury, failure to report
    suspected child abuse, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy to commit
    perjury, conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit
    endangering the welfare of a child (“EWOC”), and two counts of EWOC.3 The
    charges stem from: 1) his treatment of allegations of sexual misconduct
    against Gerald “Jerry” A. Sandusky, the former defensive coordinator for the
    Penn State football team and founder of a non-profit charity serving
    underprivileged youth, the Second Mile; 2) his testimony pertaining to his
    handling of those matters before an investigating grand jury, and 3) the
    testimony of Cynthia Baldwin.4
    Spanier is the former President of the Pennsylvania State University
    (“Penn State” or “University”). In 2009, the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney
    General (“OAG”) began investigating allegations that Sandusky sexually
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    3
    The Commonwealth filed a single conspiracy count, which included all of
    the conspiracy crimes mentioned above.
    4
    Our recitation of the facts is based on the certified record, including the
    grand jury presentments, unsealed testimony, and the factual findings of the
    trial court. Insofar as Appellant’s testimony was not credited by the trial
    court, we have not relied on that version of events.
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    abused children over an extended period. As part of the investigation, the
    OAG convened a statewide investigating Grand Jury. During the course of
    the investigation, the OAG learned of sexual misconduct by Sandusky that
    occurred while he was on the campus of Penn State in 2001, as well as an
    incident involving inappropriate behavior with a minor in 1998.
    The grand jury investigation revealed the following regarding the 1998
    matter.   That incident involved an eleven-year-old boy.    See Thirty-Third
    Statewide Investigating Grand Jury Sandusky Presentment, 11/4/11, at 18
    (hereinafter Sandusky Presentment). Sandusky transported the victim from
    the victim’s home to Penn State. Sandusky Presentment at 18. On the way
    to the University, Sandusky placed his right hand on the boy’s thigh on
    multiple occasions.   
    Id. The pair
    lifted weights for approximately twenty
    minutes before playing a game with a tape ball and cups.      
    Id. Sandusky then
    wrestled with the victim, before instructing the boy to shower. 
    Id. The youngster
    attempted to shower away from Sandusky, but Sandusky
    beckoned him closer and told him that he warmed up a shower for the child.
    
    Id. at 18-19.
    Sandusky grabbed the boy from around his waist, lifting him
    into the air. 
    Id. at 19.
    He also washed the boy’s back and bear hugged the
    child from behind, before rinsing the child’s hair. 
    Id. When Sandusky
    returned the child to the boy’s home, the child’s
    mother noticed that his hair was wet and became upset when she discovered
    that he had showered with Sandusky.         
    Id. She reported
    the matter to
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    University Police, who initiated an investigation.         
    Id. University Police
    conducted a wiretap on Sandusky, with the permission of the boy’s mother,
    recording two conversations. 
    Id. Sandusky admitted
    to showering naked
    with the child and at one point stated that he wished he were dead. 
    Id. at 20.
    He later told police that he hugged the child in the shower and admitted
    that it was wrong. 
    Id. No charges
    were ultimately filed.
    The grand jury investigation also revealed that in 2001, former Penn
    State assistant football coach, Michael McQueary, who had been a
    quarterback at Penn State, witnessed Sandusky commit a sexual assault
    against a minor in a locker room shower on the main campus of the
    University in February of 2001.           
    Id. at 6.
      McQueary, then a graduate
    assistant, reported this incident to head football coach Joe Paterno the next
    day, a Saturday. 
    Id. at 7.
    Paterno, in turn, reported the matter to Athletic
    Director Tim Curley the following day. 
    Id. Within two
    weeks of the shower
    incident, McQueary met with Curley and Vice President of Finance and
    Business Gary Schultz.5 
    Id. McQueary, who
    testified before the grand jury
    prior to January 12, 2011, stated that he told the pair that he believed he
    saw Sandusky having anal sex with a minor boy. 
    Id. In contrast,
    Curley testified that they were only told of inappropriate
    conduct and that there was no indication that Sandusky had engaged in anal
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    Schultz was in charge of campus police as part of his position.
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    sex. Conversely, Schultz testified that he had been present for a meeting
    with Paterno and Curley regarding the incident as well as a later meeting
    with only Curley and McQueary. Schultz and Curley apprised Spanier that
    Sandusky had been observed in the shower of the football building with a
    child and that the person who witnessed the pair was uncomfortable.
    Spanier acknowledged that meeting in his own grand jury testimony and
    testified that he had been told that Sandusky had been witnessed in
    horseplay in the shower with a child.
    Spanier advised Curley and Schultz that “something like that could be
    misconstrued and probably we wanted to discourage people bringing
    younger kids into our facilities.” N.T., Grand Jury Proceeding, 4/13/11, at
    16. Hence, he instructed them to inform Sandusky not to bring children into
    the locker room and to contact the chair of the Second Mile foundation. No
    other action was taken.
    As part of the criminal investigation into Sandusky, the OAG
    subpoenaed Schultz, Curley, and Paterno in December 2010.      In addition,
    Ms. Baldwin was served with a subpoena duces tecum, Grand Jury Subpoena
    1179, for University documents referencing or related to Jerry Sandusky
    after 1997.   Although the University was served with that subpoena in
    December 2010, it was not until April 2012 that relevant documents were
    turned over. Although Ms. Baldwin maintained that she informed Spanier of
    the subpoena and asked if he, Schultz, and Curley had any documents, to
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    which they responded in the negative, she did not follow University protocol
    in ensuring compliance with that subpoena.6
    After Ms. Baldwin alerted Spanier to the University subpoena and
    informed him of the subpoenas for Curley, Paterno, and Schultz, she agreed
    that she would represent each of them before the grand jury.         Paterno,
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    A grand jury report noted that, “investigation into whether the University
    fully complied with the subpoena determined that no effort was made to
    search the Athletic Department, where Sandusky had been employed for
    over 30 years, or to search any of the electronically stored date at the
    University or emails or other documents[.]” Grand Jury Presentment No. 29,
    at 23. The Grand Jury further concluded,
    Penn State had in place a well-defined historical practice and
    procedure for responding to subpoenas. Subpoenas that might
    encompass electronically stored data (such as emails and
    documents stored on a computer or network drive) would
    routinely be sent to the specialized unit called the “SOS.” These
    information technology professionals were trained and dedicated
    to assembling responsive electronically stored date in response
    to litigation needs or other legal process. None of the SOS
    professional were ever shown subpoena 1179, nor were they
    directed to seek any information requested by subpoena 1179
    before the arrests of Sandusky, Schultz and Curley.
    
    Id. Ms. Baldwin
    asserted in her grand jury testimony that she was
    dependent on the Athletic Department, the President’s office, and Vice
    President’s office to comply with the subpoena. Ms. Baldwin also informed
    the supervising grand jury judge in April of 2011 that she “had the IT
    people—I’ve been pushing the IT people and I believe that we can cull those
    [documents] out for you, that we can do all of those.” N.T., 4/13/11, at 27.
    The grand jury report revealed that, in addition to the SOS unit, other
    individuals employed in the Penn State information technology department
    maintained that they were not asked to locate such documents. Grand Jury
    Presentment No. 29, at 23-24.
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    however, elected to retain his own attorney. Ms. Baldwin met independently
    with Curley on January 3, 2011, and later met with Schultz on January 5,
    2011, to explain the grand jury process.       She attended pre-grand jury
    testimony interviews conducted by the OAG with Curley and Schultz on
    January 12, 2011.    She also was present for the grand jury testimony of
    both Curley and Schultz on that same date.
    Spanier was summoned to testify before the grand jury on April 13,
    2011. Before his grand jury testimony, Spanier was interviewed by the OAG
    in March of 2011.    Ms. Baldwin was present for that interview.       Prior to
    Spanier’s April testimony, but on the same day of that testimony, Ms.
    Baldwin objected to the scope of Subpoena 1179 before Judge Barry
    Feudale, the grand jury supervising judge.
    After she left the room, and outside of Spanier’s presence, the OAG
    represented to Judge Feudale that the recollections of Curley and Schultz
    pertaining to the 2001 incident were inconsistent.    The OAG further noted
    that, based on the testimony of Paterno and McQueary, it believed that the
    testimony of Curley and Schultz lacked credibility. The OAG also indicated
    that Spanier, in his interview, had provided a story, similar to Curley’s, that
    he had only been told of nonsexual horseplay. These representations were
    made in discussions over the scope of Subpoena 1179, which had not yet
    been complied with by Ms. Baldwin and the University. Hence, it was clear
    at that point to both Judge Feudale and the OAG that the grand jury was
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    investigating the actions of high-ranking Penn State officials, including
    Curley, Schultz, and Spanier.
    During this exchange, Judge Feudale referred to Ms. Baldwin as
    counsel for Spanier, setting forth to Deputy Attorney General Jonelle
    Eshbach, “It appeared that counsel for Mr. Spanier initially expressed
    concern about recent disclosures and didn’t get specific about that and then
    indicated    that   there   was    a   broad    amount   of   materials    that    were
    subpoenaed[.]” N.T., Grand Jury Subpoena/Colloquy Proceeding, 4/13/11,
    at 17.      Thereafter, the OAG averred, with respect to Spanier testifying,
    “We’re not going to ask him about anything related to the subpoena.                   I
    didn’t hear Attorney Baldwin object to his testimony yet.” 
    Id. at 22.
    The
    court then brought Ms. Baldwin back into the room.              At one point, Judge
    Feudale stated to Ms. Baldwin, “I also learned that evidently the testimony
    of your witness today could proceed without the discussions, especially since
    you didn’t file a written motion to quash and wasn’t [sic] very specific with
    regard to what it is that you felt was inappropriately subpoenaed or
    whatever concerns you were having with regard to compliance with the
    subpoena.” 
    Id. at 23.
    Subsequently,      after     discussions   regarding     compliance    with    the
    Subpoena 1179 were coming to a close, Judge Feudale inquired, “Cindy,
    [Ms. Baldwin] just for the record, who do you represent?”                  
    Id. at 28.
    Outside the presence of Spanier, and for the first time on the record, Ms.
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    Baldwin responded, “The university.” 
    Id. Judge Feudale
    followed up, “The
    university solely?”     Ms. Baldwin answered, “Yes, I represent the university
    solely.” 
    Id. Immediately after
    this questioning, Spanier was brought into the
    room. Judge Feudale then colloquied Spanier, with Ms. Baldwin present, as
    follows.
    [Y]ou have the right to the advice and assistance of a lawyer.
    This means you have the right to the services of a lawyer with
    whom you may consult concerning all matters pertaining to your
    appearance before the Grand Jury.
    You may confer with your lawyer at any time before,
    during and after your testimony. You may consult with your
    lawyer throughout your entire contact with the Grand Jury. Your
    lawyer may be present with you in the Grand Jury room during
    the time you’re actually testifying and you may confer with him
    or with her at that time.
    You may at any time discuss your testimony with your
    lawyer and except for cause shown before the Court, you may
    disclose your testimony to whomever you choose, if you choose.
    
    Id. at 29-30.
    Despite Ms. Baldwin’s earlier averment that she solely represented the
    University, Judge Feudale did not colloquy Spanier regarding the scope or
    type of representation he was being afforded by Ms. Baldwin. 7 Additionally,
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    Judge Feudale, in an opinion addressing motions seeking quashal of the
    grand jury presentments, filed before him by Spanier, Curley, and Schultz,
    opined in dicta, “In hindsight, perhaps I erred in not asking follow up
    question about the role of corporate counsel Baldwin. I regret and perhaps
    (Footnote Continued Next Page)
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    the OAG did not express concern over Ms. Baldwin being present for
    Spanier’s testimony. Upon entering the grand jury room, the OAG queried,
    “Sir, you’re represented by counsel today?”         N.T., 4/13/11, at 3.   Spanier
    responded, “Yes.” The OAG then asked, “Could you just identify counsel?”
    
    Id. Spanier answered,
    “Cynthia Baldwin sitting behind me.” Id.8
    The OAG questioned Spanier extensively about information he received
    regarding the 1998 and 2001 Sandusky incidents from Curley and Schultz.
    In addition, it queried Spanier about his involvement in general criminal
    matters occurring on the Penn State campus.           Spanier acknowledged that
    “There was one time when our athletic director and senior vice president,
    the two individuals you mentioned earlier came to seek my advice on a
    matter relating to Jerry Sandusky.” N.T., Grand Jury Testimony, 4/13/11, at
    12. He continued that,
    They asked if they could come over to my office to see me
    because the athletic director, Mr. Curley, had been approached
    by a member of his staff saying that he was somewhat
    uncomfortable because Jerry Sandusky in the football building
    locker room area in the shower was with a younger child and
    that they were horsing around in the shower.
    _______________________
    (Footnote Continued)
    committed error in not asking any follow up questions but while I am
    unaware of what the response would have been, I fail to discern how such
    would persuade me at this stage why [the] presentments should be
    dismissed.” Judge Feudale Opinion, 4/9/13, at 11. Ultimately, Judge
    Feudale ruled that he lacked jurisdiction to consider the motions in question.
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    We note that supervising grand jury judges are not present in the
    courtroom during the questioning of grand jury witnesses.
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    Id. at 15.
      Spanier submitted that they asked for his advice and that he
    instructed them that they should inform Sandusky to refrain from bringing
    children under eighteen years of age into the locker room facilities and to
    contact the board chair of the Second Mile Foundation. When asked about
    the 1998 police investigation into Sandusky, Spanier denied ever being
    informed of that investigation, but admitted that he had been copied on
    emails in 1998 involving that matter. During the course of Spanier’s grand
    jury testimony, Ms. Baldwin did interrupt to consult with him and allow him
    to clarify certain matters not material herein.
    Thereafter, in December of 2011, the OAG expressed significant
    frustration with Ms. Baldwin’s failure to comply with its document subpoena
    request and threatened the University, and ostensibly her, with possible
    contempt of court “and any other appropriate measures applicable to
    obstruction against the institution and those individuals responsible for these
    decisions.” Letter from OAG to Ms. Baldwin, 12/19/11, at 2.     Subsequently,
    the Commonwealth and Ms. Baldwin entered into discussions regarding her
    testifying before the grand jury about the responses of Curley, Schultz and
    Spanier pertaining to her document requests related to Sandusky. See N.T.,
    Grand Jury Conference, 10/22/12, at 2 (“the Office of Attorney General has
    been conversing with Cynthia Baldwin’s counsel and eventually Cynthia
    Baldwin in the context of a proffer discussion.”).
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    New general counsel for Penn State, Michael Mustokoff, asked Judge
    Feudale for a conference concerning privilege matters prior to Ms. Baldwin
    testifying before the grand jury on October 22, 2012. Mr. Mustokoff agreed
    that the University would waive its own privilege with respect to Ms.
    Baldwin, but explicitly declined to waive any privilege that might exist
    between Ms. Baldwin and Curley and Ms. Baldwin and Schultz. Specifically,
    Mr. Mustokoff wrote,
    We have waived the University’s privilege as to those documents
    with two critical exceptions:
    ...
    (2) any communications between Justice Baldwin and Messrs.
    Schultz and Curely. We have previously shared our concerns
    about the Schultz/Curley communications with you and
    memorialized them in our October 2, 2012 letter to Judge
    Feudale.
    Letter from Michael Mustokoff to Chief Deputy Attorney General Frank Fina,
    10/19/12, at 1.
    In preparation for Ms. Baldwin’s grand jury appearance, Judge Feudale
    conducted a conference with Mr. Mustokoff, the OAG, and Ms. Baldwin’s
    attorney on October 22, 2012. Due to the secrecy attendant to grand jury
    proceedings, Spanier was not aware that Ms. Baldwin was going to testify
    and could not lodge any objection.      New counsel for Curley and Schultz
    already had provided letters to the OAG, Judge Feudale, and counsel for Ms.
    Baldwin, invoking the attorney-client privilege.
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    Counsel for Penn State astutely noted that it could not waive any
    privilege that Curley and Schultz might have and again declined to waive its
    privilege as to communications between Ms. Baldwin and Curley and Schultz.
    The OAG, via Attorney Frank Fina, submitted at that time that it would not
    question Ms. Baldwin about matters that could involve potential confidential
    communications       between      Curley,      Schultz,   Spanier   and   Ms.   Baldwin.
    Attorney Fina expressly set forth,
    But at this point, Your Honor, we are willing to put Miss Baldwin
    in the grand jury without addressing any of the issues related to
    the testimony of Mr. Schultz and Mr. Curley and conversations
    she had with them about that testimony and put that—put those
    matters on hold until we get a Court determination regarding the
    privilege and we can address that later on.
    
    Id. at 6.
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    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10 precludes a prosecutor from subpoenaing an
    attorney to appear before a grand jury where the prosecutor is seeking to
    compel the attorney to provide evidence regarding a person who is or has
    been represented by the attorney. The rule reads in its entirety,
    A public prosecutor or other governmental lawyer shall not,
    without prior judicial approval, subpoena an attorney to appear
    before a grand jury or other tribunal investigating criminal
    activity in circumstances where the prosecutor or other
    governmental lawyer seeks to compel the attorney/witness to
    provide evidence concerning a person who is or has been
    represented by the attorney/witness.
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10.
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    Shortly thereafter, Mr. Fina submitted, “There may well be [privilege]
    claims down the road by [counsel for Mr. Schultz and Mr. Curley], and
    perhaps even counsel for Graham Spanier; but that is, you know, the risk
    that the Commonwealth is ready to bear because we believe that we are
    soundly within the [University] waiver.” 
    Id. at 11.
    Judge Feudale, relying on the representations of Mr. Fina, stated,
    I’m satisfied based on what you placed on the record that [Ms.
    Baldwin] is clearly able to proceed on testimony with the
    stipulation that you communicated that you’re not going to get
    into an inquiry as to her representation and what that meant
    with regard to Mr. Curley, Mr. Schultz, and perhaps, as you said,
    also Mr. Spanier.
    
    Id. at 11-12.10
    Judge Feudale provided the same colloquy regarding the right to
    counsel to Ms. Baldwin as he did to Curley, Schultz, and Spanier.           After
    entering the courtroom, Ms. Baldwin indicated that she was present with and
    accompanied by two attorneys.             Those attorneys were representing her
    personally. Despite the foregoing representations by Mr. Fina, a significant
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    The Commonwealth did not raise any argument that Ms. Baldwin could
    testify regarding any privileged communications as a result of the crime-
    fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. See In re Investigating
    Grand Jury of Philadelphia County, 
    593 A.2d 402
    , 406-07 (Pa. 1991)
    (crime-fraud exception excludes from protection those communications
    between an attorney and client that are made for the purpose of committing
    a crime or fraud).
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    number of the Commonwealth’s questions to Ms. Baldwin before the grand
    jury implicated potential confidential communications.11
    In response to a question regarding the earlier OAG interview with
    Spanier, Ms. Baldwin responded,
    Oh, there was an interview with Graham on March 22nd,
    yes. So that what happened, of course, is the Office of Attorney
    General contacted me and said that they would like to interview
    the President and because the President has a busy schedule
    and I can’t commit the President, I had to contact his office and
    tell them that the Office of Attorney General wanted to meet
    with him and there were certain dates.
    So the date that was agreed upon was March 22nd and on
    March 22nd, I actually went with the President to meet with the
    Office of Attorney General in their State College office at which
    time he was interviewed.
    N.T. Grand Jury Testimony, 10/26/12, at 22.
    The questioning continued as follows.
    Mr. Fina: Okay. Now, tell us, if you would, about your
    discussions with Spanier before that interview.        I’m
    specifically interested in, you know, what anticipation of
    questions he would have had going into that interview.
    Ms. Baldwin: Okay. Because being interviewed by the Office of
    Attorney General is serious in itself, I said to him, you know,
    when they question you, Graham, they are going to talk about
    things like—they are going to use words like, sodomy and
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    In light of Attorney Fina’s representation to Judge Feudale, and mindful of
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10, we find his subsequent questioning of Ms. Baldwin,
    absent prior judicial approval on the privilege question, to be highly
    improper.
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    pedophile because I didn’t want him to be shocked by the
    questioning and the type of questioning.
    And you have to, you know—you have to be aware that
    they are going to use that and you have to tell the truth and you
    will go in and be interviewed. He said to me, you know, that is
    fine. I know that. No problem. That was it.
    Mr. Fina: Okay. Well, tell us about the context, too, that these
    questions were likely to arise. In other words, at that point in
    time, March of 2011, is Graham Spanier fully aware that he is
    likely to be asked about the 1998 investigation of Sandusky and
    the 2001 allegations of Mike McQueary?
    Ms. Baldwin: He is fully aware of both 1998 and what was then
    2002 but, yes. He was very aware of those and there is—there
    is no doubt because at some point, I became aware of the 1998
    and went to get the report.
    Mr. Fina: Okay, And let’s talk about that. You got the report
    from the 1998 investigation, I believe, in January of 2011,
    correct?
    Ms. Baldwin: Um hum. That is correct.
    Mr. Fina: And that copy of the report that you had, was it copied
    and given to Spanier or disbursed to Spanier, Schultz, Curley or
    tell us about that?
    Ms. Baldwin: No. It was not disbursed because we had certain
    considerations because of various laws that there are and
    because of that, our office got the copy; but it was not
    disseminated even though Graham was aware that I had gotten
    a copy of the report.
    Mr. Fina: Okay. Did he ever ask to—to read it or come to your
    office as far as you know and read it?
    Ms. Baldwin: No, he did not.
    Mr. Fina: And what was he telling you about the 1998
    investigation?
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    Ms. Baldwin: That he didn’t know anything.
    Mr. Fina: Now, however, before he comes to the interview, he
    knows that he is going to be questioned about that?
    Ms. Baldwin: He is aware of that.
    Mr. Fina: Okay. Now, is he aware of that just from his
    conversations with you or did he [sic] become aware that he was
    getting that information from somewhere else as well?
    Ms. Baldwin:   He appeared to be getting the information from
    elsewhere.
    Mr. Fina: Well, tell us, you know, what you came to understand.
    Ms. Baldwin: I came to understand that he was having other
    discussions with Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz.
    Mr. Fina: Okay. That understanding—tell us how clear it was.
    Was that what Spanier was telling you?
    Ms. Baldwin: Correct.
    Later, Mr. Fina questioned Ms. Baldwin,
    Mr. Fina: And the testimony of Mr. Spanier is documented, and
    it is transcribed. But can you tell us, did he have the same
    approach to that testimony as he did to the interview.
    Ms. Baldwin: Yes, he did. I believe that it was only a couple of
    days later that I was notified that the Office of Attorney General
    want Graham to appear before the grand jury.
    And therefore, I had to, again, go to his administrative
    assistant and try to set up a time period. We went back and
    forth on dates. We got it all set up and that he was to appear.
    But when I went to tell him that they wanted—that they
    were going to subpoena—that he was going to have to testify
    before the grand jury, he said, sure, he was looking forward to
    it. He has never appeared before a grand jury.      It was, you
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    know, a new experience for him.       It was—it was fine.   It was
    fine.
    Mr. Fina: Now, up to this point, tell us how informed you had
    been keeping the President about everything that you knew of
    this investigation.
    Ms. Baldwin: Well, the running joke in Old Main was that I had
    my own path up the stairs and across the rug to Graham’s office.
    Everything that I knew I was passing on to him so that
    he would be aware of everything that was going on with this
    particular matter.
    Mr. Fina: And when you say by everything, you literally mean
    everything, right?
    Ms. Baldwin: I literally mean everything.
    
    Id. at 22-28.
    Thereafter, Mr. Fina and Ms. Baldwin had an exchange involving email
    communications between her and Spanier, regarding his right to disclose his
    own testimony.
    Mr. Fina: Okay. Now, this is interesting. After he sends that e-
    mail to you and [the Board member], you send him an e-mail
    directly without [the Board member] on it.
    And you say, Graham, those who testify before the
    grand jury are not held to secrecy and can disclose if they so
    desire.
    If you wish, I can put together something that you can
    share with the Board from your perspective during a seminar.
    Cynthia.
    Ms. Baldwin: Right.
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    Mr. Fina: And again, this is entirely consistent with what you
    have told us that you are telling him that he can tell the Board,
    he can tell people?
    Ms. Baldwin: Right.
    
    Id. at 32-33.
    Subsequently, Ms. Baldwin related what she disclosed to the Board of
    Trustees as follows:
    I gave the presentation, talking about the whole grand jury
    process, talking about what had appeared in the newspaper,
    talking about, you know, what we knew, not saying anything
    about the testimony of Curley, Schultz, or Spanier because that
    was—they could disclose—I can’t disclose their testimony and so
    I told them about all of that.
    So all of that was there in 1998, the then—the 2000-what
    became the 2001 matter, what the grand jury was like, the fact
    that Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz and Mr. Paterno had been called
    to testify, that Mr. Paterno had his own attorney. Yeah, I think
    that is about it.
    
    Id. at 35-36.
      Following some additional questions and answers, Mr. Fina
    again inquired with Ms. Baldwin regarding discussions she had with Spanier:
    Mr. Fina: Now, as I understand it, and again, I don’t want to
    mischaracterize anything, what Spanier has been telling you
    through this whole period of time is that he knows nothing
    about the 1998 investigation of Sandusky, he didn’t know
    anything about it at the time, 1998?
    Ms. Baldwin: Correct.
    Mr. Fina: And that in 2001, he was told very little about that.
    Can you tell us what he specifically was saying to you
    about those two incidents?
    Ms. Baldwin: What he was saying is basically this: I’m the
    President of the University. With this situation, it was a situation
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    I expected my Senior Vice President and Athletic Director to
    handle. Needless to say, they came to see me. We had a
    discussion, and I thought they handled it.
    Mr. Fina: Had he ever provided you any details about his
    involvement in the 2001 situation?
    Ms. Baldwin: I remember that he had talked about they had
    come to him and they had reached a decision on but what they
    were going to do and that he—his expectation was that Tim and
    Gary would take care of it.
    Mr. Fina: Well, in addition to that, did he ever articulate, you
    know, what it was that he was told seen in the shower?
    Ms. Baldwin: Yeah. Horsing around. Horseplay.
    Mr. Fina: And that was—are those the words or the type of
    words that he used repeatedly?
    Ms. Baldwin: Those are the words that he used. Horsing around
    and horseplay.
    
    Id. at 39-40.
    For much of the remainder of Ms. Baldwin’s testimony, she was asked
    questions about a Spanier press release and a televised interview that he
    gave to the press. Based on her communications with him, she responded
    that the majority of information that he supplied was false. She maintained,
    “That he is—that he is not a person of integrity. He lied to me.” 
    Id. at 70.
    She then reiterated, “I can’t get inside his mind, but the fact is that there is
    no doubt that he lied to me. I can’t think of any reason, other reason for
    lying than trying to hide it from me.” 
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    Following Ms. Baldwin’s testimony, that same day, the grand jury
    recommended charges against Spanier for failure to report suspected child
    abuse, perjury, obstruction of justice, EWOC, conspiracy to commit
    obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit perjury, and conspiracy to
    commit EWOC.      The Commonwealth filed a criminal complaint containing
    those charges on November 1, 2012, and the grand jury presentment was
    attached to the complaint as the basis for the charges.
    A preliminary hearing against Curley, Schultz and Spanier was held on
    July 29, 2013 and July 30, 2013.          Ms. Baldwin did not testify.       The
    magisterial district court determined that a prima facie case existed against
    Spanier and the case proceeded to the court of common pleas. Spanier filed
    pre-trial motions to preclude Ms. Baldwin’s testimony due to a breach of the
    attorney-client privilege, to quash the grand jury presentment, and to
    suppress his own grand jury testimony and dismiss those charges that arose
    out of that testimony based on the denial of adequate representation by Ms.
    Baldwin.
    The court conducted a pre-trial hearing on December 17, 2013.           In
    support of his pre-trial motions, Spanier sought to call Mr. Fina, Ms. Baldwin,
    and   expert   witnesses   to   testify   regarding   Ms.   Baldwin’s   deficient
    representation. The court precluded those witnesses from testifying. After
    receipt of memoranda from the parties, the court scheduled additional
    hearings on November 20-21, 2014, to consider testimony regarding the
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    scope of the alleged attorney-client privilege between Ms. Baldwin and
    Schultz, Curley, and Spanier.           The court prohibited testimony from all
    witnesses except Ms. Baldwin and the three defendants. It also prevented
    Spanier and his counsel from being present during the testimony of his co-
    defendants.     Ms. Baldwin, however, was present for the testimony of all
    three men and testified after each of them.
    Thereafter, in an order entered on January 14, 2015, the trial court
    concluded that Spanier was not denied counsel during his grand jury
    testimony because Ms. Baldwin represented him as an agent of Penn State.
    It further held that Ms. Baldwin did not represent Spanier in an individual
    capacity and that her subsequent testimony did not violate the attorney-
    client privilege because there was no privilege.         Spanier then filed this
    interlocutory appeal, raising one issue for our review: “whether Ms.
    Baldwin’s testimony violates Dr. Spanier’s attorney-client privilege, requiring
    quashal of the charges that depend on her testimony and preclusion of such
    testimony in any future proceedings in this case.” Appellant’s brief at 5.12
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    We note that Spanier filed with the trial court a motion to certify its order
    under 42 Pa.C.S. § 702(b), to allow an interlocutory appeal by permission of
    other issues pertaining to the attorney-client relationship. The trial court
    denied that motion. Spanier petitioned this Court for review under Pa.R.A.P.
    1311, however, this Court denied that petition.
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    In the companion case of Commonwealth v. Schultz, __ A.3d __
    (Pa.Super. 2015), we outlined the basis of our jurisdiction to consider an
    interlocutory appeal with respect to the attorney-client privilege.        For
    reasons outlined therein, this appeal is properly before this Court.       In
    Schultz, we also set forth the general principles of law governing the
    attorney-client privilege as follows.
    An issue concerning whether a communication is protected
    by the attorney-client privilege presents a question of law. In re
    Thirty-Third Statewide Investigating Grand Jury, supra at
    215. Hence, our standard of review is de novo and our scope of
    review is plenary. 
    Id. “Although now
    embodied in statute, the
    attorney-client privilege is deeply rooted in the common law.
    Indeed, it is the most revered of the common law privileges.”
    Commonwealth v. Chmiel, 
    738 A.2d 406
    , 414 (Pa. 1999)
    (internal citations omitted). In a criminal matter, “counsel shall
    not be competent or permitted to testify to confidential
    communications made to him by his client, nor shall the client be
    compelled to disclose the same, unless in either case this
    privilege is waived upon the trial by the client.” 42 Pa.C.S. §
    5916.
    This Court has opined, “Where legal advice of any kind is
    sought from a professional legal adviser in his capacity as such
    the communications relating to the purpose made in confidence
    by the client are at this instance permanently protected from
    disclosure by himself or by the legal adviser except the
    protection may be waived.” In re Gartley, 
    491 A.2d 851
    ,
    858 (Pa.Super. 1985) (quoting 8 Wigmore, Evidence §§ 2292 at
    554 (McNaughton rev. 1961)).       Almost a century ago, our
    Supreme Court posited,
    the circle of protection is not so narrow as to exclude
    communications, a professional person may deem
    unimportant to the controversy, or the briefest and
    lightest talk the client may choose to indulge with his
    legal adviser, provided he regards him as such at
    the moment. To found a distinction on such a
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    ground, would be to measure the safety of the
    confiding party by the extent of his intelligence and
    knowledge, and to expose to betrayal these very
    anxieties which prompt those in difficulty to seek the
    ear of him in whom they trust, in season and out of
    season. The general rule is, that all professional
    communications are sacred.
    Alexander v. Queen, 
    253 Pa. 195
    , 203 (Pa. 1916).                 More
    recently, our Supreme Court declared,
    The purposes and necessities of the relation between
    a client and his attorney require, in many cases, on
    the part of the client, the fullest and freest disclosure
    to the attorney of the client's objects, motives and
    acts. This disclosure is made in the strictest
    confidence, relying upon the attorney's honor and
    fidelity. To permit the attorney to reveal to
    others what is so disclosed, would be not only a
    gross violation of a sacred trust upon his part,
    but it would utterly destroy and prevent the
    usefulness and benefits to be derived from
    professional        assistance.        Based        upon
    considerations of public policy, therefore, the
    law wisely declares that all confidential
    communications and disclosures, made by a
    client to his legal adviser for the purpose of
    obtaining his professional aid or advice, shall
    be strictly privileged; -- that the attorney shall not
    be permitted, without the consent of his client, --
    and much less will he be compelled -- to reveal or
    disclose communications made to him under such
    circumstances." 2 Mecham on Agency, 2d Ed., §
    2297.
    Commonwealth v. Maguigan, 
    511 A.2d 1327
    , 1333-1334 (Pa.
    1986) (emphasis added). Our Supreme Court has further
    opined,
    Recognizing that its purpose is to create an
    atmosphere that will encourage confidence and
    dialogue between attorney and client, the privilege
    is founded upon a policy extrinsic to the protection of
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    the fact-finding process. Estate of Kofsky, 
    487 Pa. 473
    , 
    409 A.2d 1358
    (1979). The intended
    beneficiary of this policy is not the individual client so
    much as the systematic administration of justice
    which depends on frank and open client-attorney
    communication. In re Search Warrant B-21778,
    
    513 Pa. 429
    , 
    521 A.2d 422
    , 428 (1987); Estate of
    
    Kofsky, supra
    .
    In re Investigating Grand Jury No. 88-00-3505, 
    593 A.2d 402
    (Pa. 1991). In addition, “in Pennsylvania, the attorney-
    client privilege operates in a two-way fashion to protect
    confidential client-to-attorney       or       attorney-to-client
    communications made for the purpose of obtaining or providing
    professional legal advice.” Gillard v. AIG Ins. Co., 
    15 A.3d 44
    ,
    59 (Pa. 2011).
    The attorney-client relationship exists not only in one-on-
    one situations between an individual and an attorney, but it can
    also exist in a corporate environment in which general counsel or
    legal staff is present. “When the client is a corporation, the
    privilege extends to communications between its attorney and
    agents or employees authorized to act on the corporation's
    behalf.” In re Condemnation by City of Philadelphia in
    16.2626 Acre Area, 
    981 A.2d 391
    , 396 (Pa.Cmwlth. 2009)
    (citing Upjohn Co. v. United States, 
    449 U.S. 383
    (1981)). In
    Upjohn, the United States Supreme Court analyzed the scope of
    the attorney-client privilege when the client is a corporation.
    Although Upjohn itself did not involve warnings or a discussion
    of a lawyer’s explanation regarding the scope of his
    representation, the Supreme Court observed that, under certain
    situations, information about the extent of the attorney-client
    relationship between a corporate counsel and an employee might
    be necessary. As a result of that case, “Upjohn warnings” have
    evolved that specifically inform a corporate employee that
    corporate counsel represents the corporation and not the
    individual, and that the corporation possesses the attorney-client
    privilege. See Grace M. Giesel, Upjohn Warnings, the Attorney-
    Client Privilege, and Principles of Lawyer Ethics: Achieving
    Harmony, 65 U. Miami L. Rev. 109, 110-111 (Fall 2010).
    In addition to the traditional attorney-client relationship
    and the corporate environment, the attorney-client privilege also
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    can exist in the context of co-defendants and their attorney or
    attorneys. When multiple defendants and their counsel engage
    in a common defense, the privilege is not waived by the sharing
    of confidential information among the parties for the benefit of
    the joint defense. See Commonwealth v. Scarfo, 
    611 A.2d 242
    (Pa.Super. 1992), superseded by statute on other ground as
    stated in Commonwealth v. Buck, 
    709 A.2d 892
    (Pa. 1998);
    see also Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.6(a).
    Schultz, slip opinion at 31-35 (footnote omitted).
    Spanier begins his argument by maintaining that Ms. Baldwin
    represented him in his individual capacity when he testified before the grand
    jury. He submits that Ms. Baldwin was his attorney for both his interview
    with the OAG and his subsequent grand jury testimony. In his view, the trial
    court’s decision finding that he was adequately represented in his official
    capacity     by    Ms.    Baldwin’s      representation   of   the   University   is
    unprecedented.13
    Spanier continues that Ms. Baldwin may only have limited the scope of
    her representation if he provided informed consent, which he did not. Since
    Ms. Baldwin did not ask for or obtain informed consent to limit her
    representation, Spanier asserts that her representation of him was personal
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    We do note that the Commonwealth has failed to cite a single case where
    a witness testified before a grand jury in an organizational or representative
    capacity and the testimony offered was used to prosecute the individual in a
    personal capacity. In contrast, the United States Supreme Court has held
    that a witness cannot be made to testify before a grand jury as a
    representative of an organization because any testimony would be personal.
    See Curcio v. United States, 
    354 U.S. 118
    , 123-124 (1957).
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    representation.   He adds that Ms. Baldwin’s own belief as to whom she
    represented is immaterial because the critical inquiry is what the client
    reasonably believed.       Spanier posits that he “reasonably believed that Ms.
    Baldwin would act as his attorney, not solely as Penn State’s attorney.”
    Appellant’s brief at 30.
    In further support of this view, Spanier notes that grand jury
    testimony “is an inherently personal undertaking, involving personal rights
    (like the right against self-incrimination) and personal liability[.]”   
    Id. He points
    out that he was subpoenaed to testify as an individual, identified Ms.
    Baldwin as his lawyer, and consulted with her during his own testimony.
    Spanier maintains that testifying in an official capacity versus an individual
    capacity is “out of place in the context of a witness giving sworn testimony
    before a grand jury.” 
    Id. at 31.
    In this respect, he contends that a grand
    jury witness’s right against self-incrimination is a personal privilege and
    testifying before a grand jury is inherently personal.     
    Id. at 32.
       Spanier
    highlights that a custodian of records subpoenaed for documents cannot
    invoke the right against self-incrimination to avoid disclosing documents.
    However, he posits that oral testimony is distinct.        Continuing, Spanier
    submits that the grand jury supervising judge advised him of his personal
    rights and did not explain or provide any instructions relative to testifying in
    an agency capacity.
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    Additionally, Spanier argues that the trial court’s reliance on In the
    Matter of Bevill, Bresler & Schulman Asset Mgmt. Corp., 
    805 F.2d 120
    (3d Cir. 1988), Maleski by Chronister v. Corporate Life Ins. Co., 
    641 A.2d 1
    (Pa.Cmwlth 1994), and United States v. Norris, 
    722 F. Supp. 2d 632
    (E.D. Pa. 2010), was erroneous.14          His arguments are substantially the
    same as those proffered in 
    Schultz, supra
    . We have previously explained
    our reasoning for agreeing with this contention in Schultz, and need not
    undertake an additional discourse explaining Spanier’s arguments or why
    those cases are inapplicable.
    Spanier also contends that his statutory right to counsel was violated if
    Ms. Baldwin did not represent him personally. Indeed, we made a similar
    finding in Schultz. Spanier avers that “[i]f the Commonwealth were correct
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    The test outlined in In the Matter of Bevill, Bresler & Schulman
    Asset Mgmt. Corp., 
    805 F.2d 120
    (3d Cir. 1988), is as follows:
    First, they must show they approached counsel for the purpose
    of seeking legal advice. Second, they must demonstrate that
    when they approached counsel they made it clear that they were
    seeking legal advice in their individual rather than in their
    representative capacities. Third, they must demonstrate that the
    counsel saw fit to communicate with them in their individual
    capacities, knowing that a possible conflict could arise. Fourth,
    they must prove that their conversations with counsel were
    confidential. And, fifth, they must show that the substance of
    their conversations with counsel did not concern matters within
    the company or the general affairs of the company.
    Bevill, supra at 125.
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    that Ms. Baldwin did not represent Dr. Spanier as an individual, the
    unavoidable implication would be that Dr. Spanier was denied his right to
    personal counsel.” Appellant’s brief at 48. According to Spanier, “[o]n the
    Commonwealth’s own theory, Dr. Spanier was compelled to testify without
    the protection of counsel, and the charges against him should be quashed.”
    
    Id. at 49
    (citing Commonwealth v. McCloskey, 277 A.2d (Pa. 1971);
    Commonwealth v. Cohen, 
    289 A.2d 96
    (Pa.Super. 1972) (plurality)).15
    In addition, Spanier asserts that the rules of grand jury secrecy would
    have been violated if Ms. Baldwin were present in the courtroom during his
    testimony, but was not representing him in an individual capacity.                  He
    maintains that Pa.R.Crim.P. 231(A), governing who can be present during
    grand    jury   testimony,     allows    for   “[c]ounsel   for   the   witness   under
    examination as provided by law.” For these reasons, Spanier posits that Ms.
    Baldwin’s testimony regarding communications between him and her were
    privileged and she was not competent to testify as to those communications
    during her grand jury testimony.
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    We note that Spanier’s position regarding the right to counsel during a
    grand jury proceeding is offered to demonstrate that Ms. Baldwin
    represented him in an individual capacity and that an attorney-client
    privilege existed. Unlike the appellant in Schultz, Spanier does not fully
    develop the argument that, because of a denial of his statutory right to
    counsel during his grand jury testimony, the charges should be quashed
    based on a lack of personal counsel during that testimony. Accordingly, we
    have not considered whether he is entitled to relief on that basis.
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    The Commonwealth’s initial response in this matter is identical to that
    proffered in Schultz and Commonwealth v. Curley, __ A.3d __ (Pa.Super.
    2015).     However, it also adds that Spanier waived any attorney-client
    privilege that existed at the time Ms. Baldwin testified by revealing these
    communications in public communications.           Specifically, it avers that
    Spanier’s July 23, 2012 public letter to the Penn State Board of Trustees and
    his later televised interview on ABC Nightline waived his privilege.
    Spanier counters that he did not waive his privilege because
    “statements made outside the context of a judicial proceeding cannot trigger
    a subject-matter waiver of the privilege over related communications.”
    Spanier’s reply brief at 2. He adds that the Commonwealth itself declined to
    invoke this waiver argument when Ms. Baldwin testified before the grand
    jury.    Spanier notes that Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 3.10 requires prior judicial
    approval before an attorney can be subpoenaed to testify about a client, and
    that the Commonwealth, “having failed to request the necessary hearing and
    create a record on its waiver argument, should not now be permitted to
    press that argument on appeal.”       Appellant’s reply brief at 20.   Phrased
    differently, Spanier contends that the Commonwealth waived its waiver
    argument by not advancing it at the earliest stage of the proceedings: when
    it sought Ms. Baldwin’s testimony.
    With respect to the merits of the Commonwealth’s position, Spanier
    argues that the broad subject matter waiver doctrine used in federal court
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    relative    to   the   attorney-client   privilege   has    not   been    adopted     in
    Pennsylvania.      See Bagwell v. Pa.Dep’t of Educ., 
    103 A.3d 409
    , 419
    (Pa.Cmwlth. 2014). Furthermore, his statements were made before he was
    charged and did not occur during litigation, whereas the cases relied on by
    the   Commonwealth,        concerning    subject     matter   waiver     of   privileged
    communications, involved discovery disputes during the course of litigation.
    See Nationwide Mt. Ins. Co. v. Fleming, 
    924 A.2d 1259
    (Pa.Super.
    2007), affirmed by equally divided court, 
    992 A.2d 65
    (Pa. 2010).                    He
    continues, “it is settled law in Pennsylvania that an attorney remains subject
    to her obligations under the attorney-client privilege, notwithstanding any
    subsequent disclosure by the client of confidential information to third
    parties.” Appellant’s reply brief at 22.
    We begin our analysis with a discussion of whether Spanier waived his
    attorney-client privilege and find that he did not.        Initially, we note that this
    is not a case where Spanier made his communications to his attorney in the
    presence of other individuals. In that situation, the communications would
    not be privileged. Loutzenhiser v. Doddo, 
    260 A.2d 745
    , 748 (Pa. 1970)
    (“A communication between an attorney and his client is not privileged if (1)
    it takes place in the presence of a third person[.]”). In contrast, if Spanier
    told his attorney in private X, and also revealed that same fact to a friend,
    that does not result in waiver of the privilege between the attorney and
    client.    See Commonwealth v. Ferri, 
    599 A.2d 208
    , 211-212 (Pa.Super.
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    1991) (disclosure to another person who was wearing a wire, did not waive
    privilege   as   to   earlier   communications   with   attorney);    see   also
    Commonwealth v. Clark, 
    500 A.2d 440
    (Pa.Super. 1985) (discussing
    marital-privilege).
    Here, at the time Ms. Baldwin testified, Spanier was not challenging
    the adequacy of her representation nor were the communications in question
    uttered to Ms. Baldwin in the presence of other individuals.         Nor did any
    disclosure by Spanier occur in the course of litigation. That is, he did not
    attempt to use the attorney-client privilege as a shield and a sword by
    selectively disclosing certain information during pending litigation.       While
    Spanier’s statements in his press release and in his televised interview could
    be used against him, they do not remove the attorney-client privilege as to
    his communications with Ms. Baldwin.
    Having determined that the Commonwealth’s belated waiver claim is
    unavailing, we now proceed to consider the merits of Spanier’s arguments.
    In Schultz, we found that the right to counsel during a witness’s grand jury
    testimony is personal and is designed to protect the testifying individual
    from offering incriminating testimony. Specifically, we opined, “the presence
    of the attorney in the grand jury room would be rendered nugatory if that
    lawyer is not present for the purpose of protecting the witness against
    incriminating himself.” Schultz, slip opinion at 53. We added that grand
    jury counsel must adequately explain to the client any limitations of his or
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    her representation at a grand jury proceeding. In the absence of informing
    the witness of such limitations and obtaining consent, the grand jury witness
    is deprived of personal counsel.
    Consistent with our decision in Schultz, we find that Ms. Baldwin did
    not adequately explain to Spanier that her representation of him was solely
    as an agent of Penn State and that she did not represent his individual
    interests. Although Spanier knew Ms. Baldwin was general counsel for Penn
    State, this knowledge does not ipso facto result in Spanier understanding
    that she represented him solely in an agency capacity before the grand jury.
    Spanier was not aware that Ms. Baldwin was not appearing with him in order
    to protect his interests and therefore unable to provide advice concerning
    whether he should answer potentially incriminating questions or invoke his
    right against self-incrimination.   In line with our holdings in Schultz and
    Curley, we conclude that Ms. Baldwin was incompetent to testify at the
    grand jury hearing as to communications between her and Spanier.
    In Schultz, we set forth the governing principles relevant to
    determining the existence of an attorney-client privilege.       Therein, we
    asserted,
    As our Rules of Professional Conduct illustrate,
    communications between a putative client and corporate counsel
    are generally privileged prior to counsel informing the individual
    of the distinction between representing the individual as an
    agent of the corporation and representing the person in his or
    her personal capacity. See Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.2(c) (lawyer
    may limit scope of representation provided the client gives
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    informed consent); Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.0(e) (defining “informed
    consent”); see also Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.6(a) (“A lawyer shall
    not reveal information relating to representation of a client
    unless the client gives informed consent, except for disclosures
    that are impliedly authorized in order to carry out representation
    and except as stated in paragraphs (b) and (c).”); see also
    Pa.R.Prof.Conduct 1.18(b) (“Even when no client-lawyer
    relationship ensues, a lawyer who has learned information from
    a prospective client shall not use or reveal information which
    may be significantly harmful to that person”).
    When corporate counsel clarifies the potential inherent
    conflict of interest in representing the corporation and an
    individual and explains that the attorney may divulge the
    communications between that person and the attorney because
    they do not represent the individual, the individual may then
    make a knowing, intelligent, and voluntary decision whether to
    continue communicating with corporate counsel. This is all the
    more essential where the purpose of the individual seeking
    advice relates to an appearance and testimony before a criminal
    investigating grand jury.
    Absent a privilege existing for preliminary communications,
    the putative client cannot have full and frank discussions with
    the attorney in order to determine whether it would be
    appropriate for that lawyer to represent him or her in an
    individual capacity.    See Chmiel, supra at 422-423 (“The
    purpose of the privilege is not to further the fact-finding process,
    but to foster a confidence between attorney and client that will
    lead to a trusting and open dialogue.”); Upjohn, supra at 389
    (“Its purpose is to encourage full and frank communication
    between attorneys and their clients.”).
    Furthermore, the attorney might be unable to make a
    determination as to whether he or she could represent that
    individual personally if the putative client believes full disclosure
    will not be kept confidential.         See In re Thirty-Third
    Statewide Investigating Grand Jury, supra at 216-217
    (internal citations and parenthetical omitted) (“The attorney-
    client     privilege    is    intended      to     foster      candid
    communications between counsel and client, so that counsel
    may provide legal advice based upon the most complete
    information from the client. The central principle is that a client
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    may be reluctant to disclose to his lawyer all facts necessary to
    obtain informed legal advice, if the communication may later be
    exposed to public scrutiny.”).
    Schultz, slip opinion at 57-59.
    As we discussed in both Schultz and Curley, communications
    between a corporate attorney and an employee of a corporation may be
    personally privileged.      It simply does not follow that, if Ms. Baldwin
    represented Spanier as an agent of Penn State, none of his communications
    with her were privileged.
    Instantly, Spanier met with Ms. Baldwin to discuss subpoenas served
    on Curley, Schultz, Paterno, the University, and later himself. His meetings
    with Ms. Baldwin relative to his own subpoena did not pertain to a subpoena
    for the University.   He consulted Ms. Baldwin for the purpose of securing
    legal advice. The issues discussed between Ms. Baldwin and Spanier were
    not general business matters related to the operation of the University, but
    concerned the criminal investigation into Jerry Sandusky and Spanier’s own
    response to learning of certain information in 1998 and 2001.     Unlike the
    cases relied on by the trial court, this matter does not involve discussions
    between corporate counsel and officers of the corporation for purposes of
    operating and running that business or an internal investigation into the
    corporation’s business practices.
    Ms. Baldwin also communicated with Spanier and expressed her belief
    that no conflict existed between her joint representation of Schultz, Curley
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    and him.   Thus, Ms. Baldwin was aware of the potential for a conflict of
    interest. Ms. Baldwin did not reveal Spanier’s communications to the Board
    of Trustees of Penn State.   Spanier has claimed his privilege. Finally, the
    communications in question concerned the rights and responsibilities of
    Spanier relative to appearing before a grand jury and not Penn State’s
    corporate rights.
    For reasons outlined, we agree that an attorney-client relationship
    existed between Spanier and Ms. Baldwin before and during his grand jury
    testimony, thereby giving rise to an attorney-client privilege. Ms. Baldwin’s
    grand jury testimony regarding communications with Spanier constituted a
    violation of the attorney-client privilege, rendering her incompetent to
    testify. Accordingly, and in light of our holdings in Schultz and Curley, we
    quash the challenged charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and
    conspiracy to commit those crimes.
    Order reversed. Jurisdiction relinquished.
    Judgment Entered.
    Joseph D. Seletyn, Esq.
    Prothonotary
    Date: 1/22/2016
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