Cantu Enterprises, LLC v. Glenn Hegar, Comptroller of Public Accounts of the State of Texas And Ken Paxton, Attorney General of the State of Texas ( 2016 )


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    03-15-00516-CV
    11051299
    THIRD COURT OF APPEALS
    AUSTIN, TEXAS
    6/8/2016 6:27:41 PM
    JEFFREY D. KYLE
    CLERK
    No. 03-15-00516-CV
    __________________________________________________________________
    FILED IN
    3rd COURT OF APPEALS
    In the Court of Appeals          AUSTIN, TEXAS
    For the Third Judicial District 6/8/2016 6:27:41 PM
    Austin, Texas             JEFFREY D. KYLE
    Clerk
    __________________________________________________________________
    CANTU ENTERPRISES, LLC
    Appellant,
    v.
    GLENN HEGAR, COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS OF
    THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND KEN PAXTON, ATTORNEY
    GENERAL OF THE STATE OF TEXAS
    Appellees.
    __________________________________________________________________
    On Appeal from the 53rd District Court, Travis County, Texas
    Trial Court Cause No. D-1-GN-13-004369
    __________________________________________________________________
    APPELLANT’S REPLY BRIEF
    __________________________________________________________________
    Mark Eidman                            RYAN LAW FIRM, LLP
    Texas Bar No. 06496500                 100 Congress Avenue, Suite 950
    Mark.Eidman@RyanLawLLP.com             Austin, Texas 78701
    512.459.6600 Telephone
    Doug Sigel                             512.459.6601 Facsimile
    Texas Bar No. 18347650
    Doug.Sigel@RyanLawLLP.com              Attorneys for Appellant
    Amy Wills
    Texas Bar No. 24093379
    Amy.Wills@RyanLawLLP.com               June 8, 2016
    Table of Contents
    Page
    Table of Contents ....................................................................................................... i
    Index of Authorities ................................................................................................. iii
    Index to Appendix ...................................................................................................... v
    Reply to Appellees’ Statement Regarding Oral Argument ..................................... vi
    The Comptroller’s arguments disregard the plain meaning of § 151.006(a)(1). .......1
    The Comptroller’s arguments do not refute the law and the evidence establishing
    that Cantu Enterprises is entitled to the sale for resale exemption. ...........................1
    Reply to Statement of Facts .......................................................................................2
    Reply to Standard of Review .....................................................................................8
    Reply to Arguments .................................................................................................10
    I.     Subsection 151.006(a)(1) applies to transactions involving leases. ...........10
    II.    Cantu Enterprises’ purchase of the aircraft qualifies for the sale for
    resale exemption under § 151.006(a)(1). ....................................................15
    A. Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft for the purpose of
    reselling it. ...........................................................................................15
    B. Subsection 151.006(a)(1) does not require the series of
    restrictions the Comptroller asserts apply here. ..................................17
    III. Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft in its normal course
    of business. ..................................................................................................20
    A. There is no objective standard of “normal course of business.”
    “Normal course of business” is tailored to the purchaser’s
    business. ..............................................................................................20
    B.     The Comptroller is not permitted to question the manner of Cantu
    Enterprises’ “normal course of business.” ..........................................21
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page i
    C.     Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft and leased it for
    diversification, risk management, and investment purposes —
    all of which show economic substance. ..............................................22
    Prayer .......................................................................................................................25
    Certificate of Compliance ........................................................................................26
    Certificate of Service ...............................................................................................26
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page ii
    Index of Authorities
    Cases
    BMC Software Belgium, N.V. v. Marchand,
    
    83 S.W.3d 789
    (Tex. 2002).................................................................................17
    Coltec Indus., Inc. v. United States,
    
    454 F.3d 1340
    (Fed. Cir. 2006) ..........................................................................24
    Combs v. Health Care Servs. Corp.,
    
    401 S.W.3d 623
    (Tex. 2013) ...................................................................... passim
    Combs v. Newpark Res., Inc.,
    
    422 S.W.3d 46
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2013) .........................................................11
    Combs v. Roark Amusement & Vending, L.P.,
    
    422 S.W.3d 632
    (Tex. 2013) ................................................................................8
    Day & Zimmerman v. Calvert,
    
    519 S.W.2d 106
    (Tex. 1975) ..............................................................................21
    DTWC Corp. v. Combs,
    
    400 S.W.3d 149
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2013, no pet.) ................................... 13, 20
    Frank Lyon Co. v. United States,
    
    435 U.S. 561
    (1978) ............................................................................................22
    GATX Terminals Corp. v. Rylander,
    
    78 S.W.3d 630
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2002, no pet.) ..............................................8
    Greater Houston P’ship v. Paxton,
    
    468 S.W.3d 51
    (Tex. 2015).................................................................................11
    Hanks v. GAB Bus. Servs., Inc.,
    
    644 S.W.2d 707
    (Tex. 1982) ....................................................................... 18, 20
    In re City of Georgetown,
    
    53 S.W.3d 328
    (Tex. 2001).................................................................................11
    Matagorda Cnty. Appraisal Dist. v. Coastal Liquids Partners, L.P.,
    
    165 S.W.3d 329
    (Tex. 2005) ..............................................................................11
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page iii
    SSP Partners v. Gladstrong Invs. (USA) Corp.,
    
    275 S.W.3d 444
    (Tex. 2009) ..............................................................................24
    Strayhorn v. Raytheon E-Systems,
    
    101 S.W.3d 558
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2003, pet. denied) ...................................20
    Titan Transp., LP v. Combs,
    
    433 S.W.3d 625
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2014, pet. denied) .....................................8
    Verizon Bus. Network Servs., Inc. v. Combs,
    No. 07-11-0025-CV, 
    2013 WL 1343530
       (Tex. App.—Amarillo Apr. 3, 2013) ....................................................................8
    Statutes
    Tex. Bus. and Comm. Code § 2A.301 (West 2010) ................................................22
    Tex. Tax Code § 101.004 (West 2010) ....................................................................22
    Tex. Tax Code § 151.005 (West 2010) ............................................................. 13, 17
    Tex. Tax Code § 151.006 (West 2010) ....................................................................14
    Tex. Tax Code § 151.006(a)(1) (West 2010)................................................... passim
    Tex. Tax Code § 151.006(a)(2) (West 2010)................................................... passim
    Other Authorities
    Black’s Law Dictionary (10th ed. 2014) ..................................................................24
    Rules
    34 Tex. Admin. Code § 3.294 (West 2010) .............................................................17
    34 Tex. Admin. Code § 3.285 (West 2010) .............................................................14
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page iv
    Index of Appendix1
    Reporter’s Record – Volume 2 Excerpts
    Reporter’s Record – Volume 3 Excerpts
    Reporter’s Record – Volume 4 Excerpts
    Reporter’s Record – Volume 5 Excerpts
    1
    The record excerpts cited in Appellant’s Reply Brief are attached for the Court’s convenience.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page v
    Reply to Appellees’ Statement Regarding Oral Argument
    Appellant previously requested oral argument. Appellees state that oral
    argument is not necessary. After reviewing Appellees’ Brief, Appellant withdraws
    its request for oral argument. Appellant has attempted to address all pertinent
    issues in its Reply Brief. If the Court feels that the issues need further discussion
    beyond the briefs, Appellant will participate in oral argument.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page vi
    The Comptroller’s arguments disregard the plain meaning of § 151.006(a)(1)2.
    The Comptroller’s arguments disregard the plain meaning of
    § 151.006(a)(1). Subsection 151.006(a)(1) requires that the aircraft be purchased:
    • for the purpose of reselling the aircraft
    • in the normal course of business
    • in the form or condition in which the aircraft was acquired.
    Subsection 151.006(a)(1) does not require the series of extra-statutory
    requirements that the Comptroller argues for in its Appellees’ Brief.3 It only
    requires that the aircraft be purchased for the purpose of resale. The evidence
    establishes that Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft for the purpose of
    reselling it.4
    The Comptroller’s arguments do not refute the law and the evidence
    establishing that Cantu Enterprises is entitled to the sale for resale exemption.
    The real issue here is whether one of Cantu Enterprises’ purposes in
    purchasing the plane was to resell it.5 Although the Comptroller cites a series of
    sound-bite facts, it has not refuted the evidence establishing that Cantu Enterprises
    purchased the aircraft for the purpose of resale.
    2
    The Reporter’s Record is referred to as “RR.” The Reporter’s Record reference includes the
    volume and page number. Unless noted otherwise, “Tax Code” and “subsection” refer to their
    respective provisions of the Texas Tax Code in effect during the period at issue. “Rule” refers to
    respective provisions of the Texas Administrative Code in effect during the period at issue.
    3
    Discussed infra.
    4
    See Appellant’s Br. 5–11.
    5
    
    Id. at 5–7.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 1
    In fact, the Comptroller’s arguments fail for four reasons: (1)
    § 151.006(a)(1) includes lease transactions; (2) the evidentiary standard is by
    preponderance of the evidence, and the evidence showed that Cantu purchased the
    aircraft for the purpose of leasing it under § 151.006(a)(1); (3) Cantu Enterprises’
    lease of the aircraft was in its normal course of business; and (4) the economic
    substance doctrine does not apply, but even if it does, the aircraft purchase and
    lease had economic substance. Overall, the Comptroller has presented no solid
    legal argument or fact that would compel the Court to affirm the trial court’s
    erroneous judgment.
    Reply to Statement of Facts
    The Comptroller’s description of the facts largely disregards the testimony
    and evidence presented. For example, the Comptroller’s factual assertions do not
    reflect the true nature of the relationship between Cantu Enterprises and Cantu
    Consulting. These assertions also do not reflect the testimony that explains in detail
    why Cantu Enterprises operated the way it did.6
    Facts asserted by Comptroller               What the Record establishes
    “Cantu Consulting did not maintain          3 RR 27 – Cantu Consulting paid for
    separate Profit and Loss Statements,         all operating expenses.
    did not pay for Aircraft expenses, nor      2 RR 46–47 – There was no legal
    file federal income tax returns, nor         need to generate separate profit and
    provide an invoice under its own             loss Statements.
    name.”7                                     3 RR 12 – Cantu Enterprises and
    6
    See also 
    id. at 1–2.
    7
    Appellees’ Br. at 7, 30–31.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 2
    Cantu Consulting legally could not
    file separate federal tax returns.
       2 RR 35 – The invoices listed Cantu
    Enterprises as the lessor and Cantu
    Consulting as the lessee.
    “On October 9, 2009, the ‘Non-              3 RR 22 – Cantu Enterprises and
    Exclusive Aircraft Lease Agreement’           Cantu Consulting had an oral lease
    . . . the only executed Aircraft Lease        agreement in place before the
    Agreement in this matter, was                 executed written agreement.
    entered into by Cantu Enterprises
    and Cantu Consulting, which was
    signed by Mr. Cantu on behalf of
    both entities.”8
    “In essence, Mr. Cantu and his               5 RR 30 – Mr. Cantu testified:
    related entities used the Aircraft for        “When I use [the aircraft], they send
    free.”9                                       me a bill; I pay for it.”
    “In fact, Cantu Enterprises never            5 RR 13 – Mr. Cantu stated that he
    leased its Aircraft to any person or          did not want the risk of leasing to
    entity unrelated to Mr. Cantu’s               “somebody that I’m not involved
    personal or professional interests.”10        in.” He also talked about reducing
    any risk of liability by not leasing to
    strangers.
    “Cantu Enterprises presented no              5 RR 30 – Mr. Cantu testified that
    evidence that Mr. and Mrs. Cantu              he paid to use the aircraft.
    paid for their personal use of the
    Aircraft pursuant to the Lease
    Agreement.”11
    “In direct contrast to the terms of the      3 RR 27 – “In practicality, the
    Lease Agreement, the irrefutable              money used to pay for the expenses
    documentary evidence demonstrates             was Cantu Consulting’s money.
    that it was Cantu Enterprises, and            Cantu Enterprises has very limited
    not Cantu Consulting, that paid for           way to generate income. Cantu
    8
    
    Id. at 3,
    8.
    9
    
    Id. at 8.
    10
    
    Id. at 9.
    11
    
    Id. at 10.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 3
    all of the operating expenses for the          Consulting through their consulting
    Aircraft.”12                                   business is the one who generated
    all the revenue. They’re the ones
    who had the clients. So their money
    was deposited in the account and
    their money was used to pay the
    bills. It wasn’t Cantu Enterprises’
    money.”
    “Moreover, even though Mr. Cantu              3 RR 27 – Cantu Consulting paid for
    flew the Aircraft in his professional          operating expenses.
    capacity to further his diverse               5 RR 30 – Mr. Cantu paid for his
    business interests, he never paid for          aircraft use.
    any of the flights on behalf of his
    ‘organizations.’”13
    “Mr. Cantu candidly admits that the           5 RR 30 – The Comptroller asked:
    ‘main objective in purchasing the              “What was the objective of Cantu
    aircraft’ was for ‘convenience and             Enterprises, LLC in buying the
    flexibility for . . . [his] companies to       aircraft?” Mr. Cantu answered:
    grow and to be able to do business             “Strictly business, leasing.”
    quicker,’ not the leasing of the              5 RR 19 – Mr. Cantu also stated that
    Aircraft to generate revenue.”14               he wanted to increase his ventures in
    leasing and that is why he purchased
    the aircraft.15
    “The Time Share Agreement did not             2 RR 85 – Cantu Consulting was not
    allow Cantu Consulting to collect              permitted to collect lease revenue
    lease revenue for any flights taken by         under the time-share agreement: “Q:
    Mr. Cantu, the ‘Sharee’ in this                And there is no rental or lease rate
    contract, that were not otherwise              above those operating expenses? A:
    related to Cantu Consulting’s                  It’s not permitted to be. This tracks
    business.”16                                   the language of the FAA part that
    limits the consideration that can be
    received on a time-share
    12
    
    Id. 13 Id.
    at 10–11.
    14
    
    Id. at 11–12.
    15
    See also 2 RR 19–20, 22–23 (Bivens); 2 RR 105–08, 166–69 (Cantu); 3 RR 7–9, 4 RR 81–85
    (Borrego).
    16
    Appellees’ Br. at 9.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 4
    agreement.”
    The Comptroller focuses on the              3 RR 8, 37 – Mr. Cantu’s assets
    separate entity structure as evidence        were held in separate entities “to
    for sham transaction.17                      protect his wealth and reduce his
    liability, his exposure.”
    “Ms. Bivens testified that time-share       2 RR 28–29 – But Ms. Bivens also
    agreements are very rigid and create         testified that “the consulting
    a ‘major limitation’ on the revenue          arrangement would allow them to
    generated by Cantu Consulting.18             obtain more compensation” in
    answering the question “What
    possible reasons would they have for
    [entering into consulting
    arrangements rather than just time-
    share agreements]?”
    “Although Mr. Cantu has a                   5 RR 13 – Mr. Cantu testified that
    marketing team for his numerous and          he would not lease to strangers to
    diverse business interests, Mr. Cantu,       reduce risk and liability.
    through Cantu Enterprises or Cantu
    Consulting, has never, in any way,
    promoted or marketed the Aircraft
    for sale or lease at any price.”19
    “Cantu Enterprises never made a             3 RR 14 – Cantu Enterprises
    profit.”20                                   purchased the aircraft as a long-term
    investment and not for profit. The
    aircraft purchase created $4 million
    in equity.
        3 RR 18–19 – Cantu Enterprises
    also purchased the aircraft as a way
    to diversify its business.
    “Mr. Cantu flew the Aircraft in his        5 RR 30 – Mr. Cantu paid for his
    personal and professional capacity,          aircraft use.
    including for his personal vacations        5 RR 21 – Mr. Cantu flew less than
    17
    
    Id. at 7.
    18
    
    Id. at 9.
    19
    Id.
    20
    
    Id. at 10–11.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 5
    to California, Colorado, and Las             10% of the time for personal
    Vegas.”21                                    reasons.
    “In fact, Mr. Cantu has ‘priority’ to      5 RR 21 – Mr. Cantu explained that
    use the Aircraft above anyone else           he would schedule his flights “way
    that may have wanted or needed to            ahead of time.”
    use the Aircraft within his
    ‘organization.’”22
    “Mr. Cantu further testified that once      Mr. Cantu did explain the main
    the Aircraft was paid off, he intended       reasons for the aircraft purchase:
    on using it to ‘fly around’ and mark         o 5 RR 30 – Q: “What was the
    off his ‘bucket list.’”23                       objective of Cantu Enterprises,
    LLC in buying the aircraft?” A:
    “Strictly business, leasing.”
    o 5 RR 19 – “And then also I’m
    looking at other ventures in
    leasing.”
    o 3 RR 14 – Cantu Enterprises
    purchased the aircraft as a long-
    term investment and not for
    profit. The purchase created $4
    million in equity.
    o 3 RR 18–19 – Cantu Enterprises
    also purchased the aircraft as a
    way to diversify its business.
    “Cantu Enterprises’ own witness             5 RR 13 – Mr. Cantu did not lease to
    further admitted that he was                 strangers to reduce the risk of
    approached by unrelated third-               liability.
    parties wishing to rent the Aircraft,
    but Cantu Enterprises turned down
    this revenue each time.”24
    “In addition, Cantu Enterprises has         3 RR 8, 37 – The businesses and
    no assets other than the subject             assets are structured as separate
    Aircraft, a bank account, and neither        entities intentionally. The purpose is
    21
    
    Id. at 10.
    22
    
    Id. at 9.
    23
    
    Id. at 12.
    24
    
    Id. Appellant’s Reply
    Brief – Page 6
    Cantu Enterprises nor Cantu              “to protect [Mr. Cantu’s] wealth and
    Consulting have employees.”25            reduce his liability, his exposure.”
    The Comptroller references what it      2 RR 90 – This testimony is taken
    considers Cantu Consulting’s             out of context. Ms. Bivens said that
    “exceptionally low rental rate.”26       $600 would be below fair market
    rate if that was the only amount
    being paid. But she also said that
    Cantu Consulting was required to
    pay for all operating expenses. (See
    also 3 RR 27).
    25
    
    Id. at 7.
    26
    
    Id. at 30.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 7
    Reply to Standard of Review
    Subsection 151.006(a)(1)’s language is unambiguous as recognized by the
    Texas Supreme Court.27 The Comptroller agrees that § 151.006(a)(1) is
    unambiguous.28 Because § 151.006(a)(1)’s language is unambiguous, as explained
    in Appellant’s Brief, statutory construction rules do not apply.29 Thus, the
    Comptroller’s interpretation should receive no deference and strict construction
    should not apply. The Court should only apply § 151.006(a)(1)’s plain language.
    Further, no deference should be given to the trial court’s findings because
    they result from an improper construction of § 151.006(a)(1) and thus are
    immaterial and erroneous.30 Therefore, the Comptroller’s reliance on the findings
    of fact should be disregarded.
    Finally, because this is a tax refund case, Cantu Enterprises only had to
    prove by a preponderance of the evidence that it is entitled to a refund.31 A
    27 Combs v. Health Care Servs. Corp., 
    401 S.W.3d 623
    , 627 (Tex. 2013) (recognizing that
    151.006(a)(1) is unambiguous).
    28
    Appellees’ Br. at 20.
    29
    Courts “give such statutes their plain meaning without resort to rules of construction or
    extrinsic aids.” Combs v. Roark Amusement & Vending, L.P., 
    422 S.W.3d 632
    , 635 (Tex. 2013).
    Strict construction of a tax provision, including an exemption, is thus inappropriate if the statute
    is unambiguous.
    30
    Appellant’s Br. at 3–4. See also Titan Transp., LP v. Combs, 
    433 S.W.3d 625
    , 642 (Tex.
    App.—Austin 2014, pet. denied).
    31
    Verizon Bus. Network Servs., Inc. v. Combs, No. 07-11-0025-CV, 
    2013 WL 1343530
    , at *4
    (Tex. App.—Amarillo Apr. 3, 2013) (citing GATX Terminals Corp. v. Rylander, 
    78 S.W.3d 630
    ,
    634, 636 (Tex. App.—Austin 2002, no pet.).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 8
    preponderance of the evidence proved Cantu Enterprises’ entitlement to the resale
    exemption under § 151.006(a)(1).32
    32
    See Appellant’s Br. at 1–11.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 9
    Reply to Arguments
    I.     Subsection 151.006(a)(1) applies to transactions involving leases.
    The Comptroller asserts that if § 151.006(a)(1) and § 151.006(a)(2) both
    include leases of tangible personal property, the provisions would be
    “synonymous,” which would go against the Legislature’s intent.33 The Comptroller
    further asserts that because the Legislature intended the provisions to be distinct,
    § 151.006(a)(1) cannot apply to transactions involving leases.34 As a result, the
    Comptroller concludes that if both provisions are read to apply to lease
    transactions, § 151.006(a)(1) would render § 151.006(a)(2) “meaningless or
    superfluous.”35 Relying on these arguments, the Comptroller argues that
    § 151.006(a)(1) does not apply in this case because Cantu Enterprises leased the
    aircraft to Cantu Consulting, and § 151.006(a)(1) does not apply to lease
    transactions.36
    However, §§ 151.006(a)(1) and (a)(2) merely overlap in certain respects.
    Both provisions apply to lease transactions. But each provision has other distinct
    requirements.
    33
    Appellees’ Br. at 22.
    34
    
    Id. at 23–24.
    35
    
    Id. at 24.
    36
    
    Id. at 20.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 10
    It is well-established that the Legislature chooses specific words, and these
    words may apply in more than one provision for emphasis or caution.37 Texas
    courts have also recognized that statutory provisions may overlap.38 In addition,
    Texas courts have recognized that overlapping provisions can be precisely what the
    Legislature intended and do not necessarily transform well-thought-out statutory
    provisions into mere surplusage or meaningless terms.39 Thus, both
    §§ 151.006(a)(1) and (a)(2) may both apply to leases contrary to the Comptroller’s
    assertions otherwise.40
    More importantly, the Legislature specifically chose to include lease
    transactions in both subsections (a)(1) and (a)(2) when it defined “sale” in the Tax
    Code. Under § 151.005(2), a “sale” is defined to include a “lease.” Therefore,
    § 151.006(a)(1)’s reference to “sale” includes purchasing an item for the purpose
    of leasing it.41 Even the Texas Supreme Court has recognized this.42 The
    37 In re City of Georgetown, 
    53 S.W.3d 328
    , 336 (Tex. 2001) (noting that statutory redundancies
    may mean that “the Legislature repeated itself out of an abundance of caution, for emphasis, or
    both”).
    38
    Combs v. Newpark Res., Inc., 
    422 S.W.3d 46
    , 54 (Tex. App.—Austin 2013) (recognizing that
    separately listed terms does not render them mutually exclusive) (citing Matagorda Cnty.
    Appraisal Dist. v. Coastal Liquids Partners, L.P., 
    165 S.W.3d 329
    , 334–35 (Tex. 2005) (noting
    that categories listed separately in statute can still overlap)).
    39 Greater Houston P’ship v. Paxton, 
    468 S.W.3d 51
    , 66 (Tex. 2015).
    40
    
    Id. at 22.
    41
    Appellant’s Br. at 7.
    42
    Health Care Servs. 
    Corp., 401 S.W.3d at 632
    .
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 11
    Comptroller’s assertion that “sale” under § 151.006(a)(1) does not include “lease”
    is simply unfounded.43
    Further, the fact that both subsections (a)(1) and (a)(2) apply to lease
    transactions does not mean that the sections “collapse and subsume” each other as
    the Comptroller asserts.44 Each provision has distinct requirements for its separate
    definition of “sale for resale”:
    “Sale for Resale” Definition Requirements
    § 151.006(a)(1)                 § 151.006(a)(2)
    A sale of tangible personal       A sale of tangible personal
    property                          property
    Purpose for resale                Sole purpose for leasing or
    renting only
    In the normal course of           In the normal course of
    business                          business
    In the form or condition in       To another person
    which it is acquired
    Or as an attachment to or         But not if incidental to the
    integral part of other tangible   leasing or renting of real estate
    personal property or taxable
    service
    As shown by the table, § 151.006(a)(1) and § 151.006(a)(2) have different
    roles. Subsection 151.006(a)(1) applies to tangible personal property acquired for
    resale. This does not have to be the “sole” purpose as the Legislature did not
    43
    See Appellant’s Br. at 7–8.
    44
    Appellees’ Br. at 22.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 12
    include that language.45 Subsection 151.006(a)(1) also only applies to tangible
    personal property that is sold in the form it is acquired or that is integral to other
    tangible personal property or a taxable service. For example, § 151.006(a)(1)
    applies to hotel consumables such as soap, shampoo, and conditioner.46 These are
    purchased for the purpose of resale to the customer and are in the same form as
    acquired.
    Subsection 151.006(a)(2), on the other hand, only applies to property
    acquired for the sole purpose of leasing or renting it. The Legislature specifically
    restricted the definition of “sale” by permitting only lease and rental transactions to
    qualify.47 Subsection 151.006(a)(2) also differs from § 151.006(a)(1) as it does not
    require that the tangible personal property be in the same condition it is acquired.
    Subsection 151.006(a)(2) will not apply if the tangible personal property leased or
    rented is incidental to the renting or leasing of real estate — § 151.006(a)(1) has no
    such limitation. These differences make §§ 151.006(a)(1) and (a)(2) unique. For
    example, the hotel consumable example above would not qualify for the (a)(1)
    exemption if the consumables were somehow changed before being resold. But,
    assuming all other requirements are met, it would still qualify under (a)(2).
    Likewise, if the hotel consumables were available for purchase, lease, or rental,
    45
    If the Legislature had intended resale to the be “sole” purpose of acquiring the tangible
    personal property, then it would have stated so as it did in § 151.006(a)(2).
    46
    DTWC Corp. v. Combs, 
    400 S.W.3d 149
    , 152 (Tex. App.—Austin 2013, no pet.).
    47
    Cf. Tex. Tax Code § 151.005(2).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 13
    (assuming all other factors are met) it would qualify for the exemption under (a)(1)
    but not (a)(2) as (a)(2) requires that the sole purpose of the purchase is to lease or
    rent the tangible personal property.
    Because the definitions are distinct, the inclusion of lease transactions in
    each provision does not render the provisions identical. Instead, the distinct
    provisions mean subsections (a)(1) and (a)(2) cannot “collapse and subsume” each
    other.48 Therefore, recognizing that both definitions include lease transactions does
    not render one or the other meaningless or superfluous contrary to the
    Comptroller’s arguments.49
    Further, the Comptroller’s reliance on Rule 3.285 does not change this.50
    Rule 3.285 does not distinguish selling and leasing. The Rule, in fact, references
    both terms interchangeably.51 To the extent the Comptroller asserts that the Rule
    and § 151.006 show a “clear” intent to distinguish “sale” and “lease,” those
    allegations are unfounded and contrary to the Tax Code and the Comptroller Rule.
    Therefore, the Court should disregard this interpretation.52
    48
    Appellees’ Br. at 22.
    49
    
    Id. at 22–23.
    50
    
    Id. at 23.
    51
    See 34 Tex. Admin Code § 3.285(b) (using “resell, lease, or rent” interchangeably when
    discussing a resale transaction).
    52
    Health Care Servs. 
    Corp., 401 S.W.3d at 630
    .
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 14
    II.    Cantu Enterprises’ purchase of the aircraft qualifies for the sale for
    resale exemption under § 151.006(a)(1).
    Subsection 151.006(a)(2) is not at issue because Cantu Enterprises is entitled
    to the resale exemption under § 151.006(a)(1) as discussed above. All the points
    the Comptroller raises discussing § 151.006(a)(2) are thus irrelevant.53 Although
    § 151.006(a)(2) requires “sole purpose,” § 151.006(a)(1) only requires resale as a
    “purpose.”54 The evidence, therefore, does not have to show that Cantu Enterprises
    purchased the aircraft solely to resell it.
    The evidence in the trial court conclusively established that Cantu
    Enterprises’ purchase of the aircraft qualified for the sale for resale exemption
    under § 151.006(a)(1): Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft (1) for the purpose
    of reselling it,55 (2) in the normal course of business,56 and (3) in the form or
    condition in which the aircraft was acquired.57
    A.     Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft for the purpose of
    reselling it.
    As discussed in detail in Appellant’s Brief,58 Cantu Enterprises purchased
    the aircraft for the purpose of reselling it. (2 RR 19–20, 22–23 (Bivens); 2 RR
    105–08, 166–69 (Cantu); 3 RR 7–9, 4 RR 81–85 (Borrego)). Although the
    53
    See Appellees’ Br. at 5–8.
    54
    Apellant’s Br. at 5–7. See also Health Care Servs. 
    Corp., 401 S.W.3d at 627
    (concluding that
    § 151.006(a)(1) had no “primary” purpose requirement).
    55
    Appellant’s Br. at 5–9.
    56
    
    Id. at 8–11.
    57
    The Comptroller does not contest (3) so we do not address it here but refer the Court to
    Appellant’s Brief at page 11.
    58
    Appellant’s Br. at 1–11.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 15
    Comptroller cites certain record evidence as support, as stated in the above Reply
    to the Statement of Facts, those facts are taken out of context while other facts are
    ignored.59 For example, the Comptroller relies on the lack of separate profit and
    loss statements and the lack of separate federal income tax returns to assert that
    Cantu Enterprises’ transaction with Cantu Consulting was a “sham transaction.”60
    But the testimony established that there was no legal need for Cantu Enterprises
    and Cantu Consulting to generate separate profit and loss statements. (2 RR 46–
    47). Further, the entities, as disregarded entities, were not permitted to file separate
    federal income tax reports. (3 RR 12).
    Other facts61 that the Comptroller asserts and relies on include inter alia that
    Mr. Cantu and his entities used the aircraft for free; that the invoices were not
    under Cantu Consulting’s name, and that Mr. Cantu’s purpose for purchasing the
    aircraft was not for leasing it.62 But the evidence disproves or clarifies all these
    facts: As testified to, the use of aircraft was paid for (5 RR 30; 3 RR 27), the
    invoices listed Cantu Consulting as the lessee (2 RR 35), and Mr. Cantu purchased
    the aircraft to lease it (5 RR 30; 5 RR 19).63 Thus, the evidence established that
    59
    See Reply to Statement of 
    Facts supra
    ; see also Appellant’s Br. at 1–2.
    60
    Appellees’ Br. at 36.
    61
    To avoid being repetitive, all misconstrued facts relied on by the Comptroller are addressed in
    the Reply to the Statement of Facts.
    62
    Appellees’ Br. at 34.
    63
    The Comptroller cites testimony in 5 RR 20–21 and 4 RR 52 as evidence that the aircraft use
    was not paid for. But the witness said that he didn’t know if it was paid for. (4 RR 52) (“Q. And
    would Mr. Cantu ever personally pay for those flights? A. I don't know.”).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 16
    Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft for the purpose of reselling it. The
    Comptroller’s assertions do not overcome this conclusive evidence.
    B.     Subsection 151.006(a)(1) does not require the series of restrictions
    the Comptroller asserts apply here.
    Although § 151.006(a)(1) requires that one of the purposes Cantu
    Enterprises purchases the aircraft is to resell it,64 it does not require:
     A sale of tangible personal property that does not involve a lease
    transaction65 – As stated § 151.005(2) defines “sale” to include a “lease.”66
     The transacting entities be unaffiliated67 – Importantly, Texas law presumes
    that two separate entities are distinct entities.68 Further, separate entities can
    enter into leasing agreements.69 If the Comptroller’s interpretation applied,
    then no transaction between related entities would qualify for the sale for
    resale exemption.
     A transfer of title and possession70 – Comptroller Rule 3.294(a)(2) defines
    “lease” as a transaction where possession but not title is transferred. Thus, a
    “sale,” as defined by § 151.005(2), does not require a transfer of title.
     Maintaining separate profit and loss statements71 – Federal and state law did
    not require that Cantu Enterprises and Cantu Consulting maintain separate
    profit and loss statements. (2 RR 46–47).
    64
    See Appellant’s Br. at 5–7.
    65
    Appellees’ Br. at 7.
    66
    See also Health Care Servs. 
    Corp., 401 S.W.3d at 632
    .
    67
    Appellees’ Br. at 19.
    68
    BMC Software Belgium, N.V. v. Marchand, 
    83 S.W.3d 789
    , 798 (Tex. 2002).
    69
    The evidence established that the businesses are structured as distinct entities to protect against
    liability by reducing exposure. (3 RR 8).
    70
    Appellees’ Br. at 7, 11.
    71
    
    Id. at 36.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 17
     Strict adherence to the parties’ written agreement72 – Cantu Enterprises and
    Consulting do not have to follow their agreement word for word. Parties can
    amend agreements and consent to the amendments with their actions. Any
    actions that were different from the agreement were consented to. The
    parties have the right to change their agreement as necessary.73
     Promoting or marketing the aircraft to unknown third parties74 – There is no
    statutory requirement that the aircraft be marketed to the general public.
    Further, the testimony explained that the aircraft was not leased to unknown
    third parties to avoid unnecessary risk and exposure to liability. (5 RR 13).
     A ban on all personal use75 – Subsection 151.006(a)(1) does not ban all
    personal use. It only requires that one purpose of the aircraft purchase is to
    resell it. The evidence established that Cantu Enterprises purchased the
    aircraft to resell it. (5 RR 19, 30). Mr. Cantu’s use of the aircraft for
    professional and personal purposes does not negate that purpose. Despite de
    minimus use for personal trips (less than 10% of the use), which Mr. Cantu
    testified that he paid for, Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft to lease it
    out as a business venture. (5 RR 21, 30).
     Making a profit76 – Cantu Enterprises did not need to make a profit to
    qualify for the exemption. Cantu Enterprises did not purchase the aircraft to
    make a profit but instead purchased it as an investment and to diversify its
    business. (3 RR 14, 18–19). 77
    72
    
    Id. at 37–38.
    73
    Hanks v. GAB Bus. Servs., Inc., 
    644 S.W.2d 707
    , 708 (Tex. 1982) (“A party who elects to treat
    a contract as continuing when an agreement is not followed has waived any action for breach.”).
    74
    Appellees’ Br. at 9.
    75
    
    Id. at 26.
    76
    
    Id. at 27–28.
    77
    The testimony also explains that Cantu Enterprises entered into consulting arrangements
    versus time-share agreements because Cantu Enterprises could get more compensation that way.
    (2 RR 28–29).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 18
     A certain amount of assets78 – The Comptroller considers Cantu Enterprises’
    lack of assets an important fact to establish that this was not a valid resale
    transaction. But there is no requirement under § 151.006(a)(1) that Cantu
    Enterprises have a certain number of assets for qualify for the exemption.79
    These other extra-statutory requirements that the Comptroller imposes are
    irrelevant to whether Cantu Enterprises’ purchase meets § 151.006(a)(1)’s
    requirements. Overall, the Comptroller points to testimony suggesting various
    purposes for Cantu Enterprises’ purchase of the aircraft. However, these stated
    purposes sidestep the reality that, under § 151.006(a)(1)’s plain language, Cantu
    Enterprises only needs to establish resale as one of the purposes for the aircraft
    purchase. Thus, the Court should disregard the Comptroller’s extra-statutory
    requirements.
    Further, in pointing to testimony reflecting these various ancillary purposes,
    the Comptroller glosses over the main purpose for Cantu Enterprises’ aircraft
    purchase — to resell it to Cantu Consulting. (See 2 RR 19–20, 22–23 (Bivens); 2
    RR 105–08, 166–69 (Cantu); 3 RR 7–9, 4 RR 81–85 (Borrego)).80 Because Cantu
    Enterprises purchased the aircraft to resell it, and the evidence established this,81
    Cantu Enterprises is entitled to the sale for resale exemption under § 151.006(a)(1).
    78
    Appellees’ Br. at 7.
    79
    Mr. Borrego testified that his businesses and assets are structured as separate entities “to
    protect his wealth and reduce his liability, his exposure.” (3 RR 8).
    80
    Appellant’s Br. at 1–11.
    81
    
    Id. Appellant’s Reply
    Brief – Page 19
    III.   Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft in its normal course of
    business.
    A.      There is no objective standard of “normal course of business.”
    “Normal course of business” is tailored to the purchaser’s
    business.
    The Comptroller asserts that Cantu Enterprises did not act in the normal
    course of business by referencing a series of characteristics, such as not making a
    profit or entering into the time-share agreement, to show “normal course of
    business.”82 But the Comptroller cites no supporting authority, no definition, and
    no term of art for “normal course of business” to show that the term includes
    characteristics it references.83 But “normal course of business” does not refer to
    arbitrary requirements set by the Comptroller.
    “Normal course of business” refers to the purchaser’s normal course of
    business.84 Notably, the Comptroller does not challenge the Texas authority that
    establishes this.85
    82
    Appellees’ Br. at 27, 29. The Comptroller also relies on actions that it asserts are “material”
    breaches of the time-share agreement. 
    Id. at 30.
    The issue is that there were no material breaches.
    Under basic contract law, a party who elects to treat a contract as continuing when an agreement
    is not followed has waived any action for breach. 
    Hanks, 644 S.W.2d at 708
    . Because the parties
    continued in their agreement as amended by their actions, there was no breach. The Comptroller
    also relies on testimony saying that $600 rental rate was below the fair market value as additional
    evidence. But the Comptroller ignores the testimony that states Cantu Consulting was also
    required to pay for all operating expenses. (2 RR 90).
    83
    Appellees’ Br. at 28–29.
    84
    See Appellant’s Br. at 8–11.
    85
    See DTWC 
    Corp., 400 S.W.3d at 155
    ; Strayhorn v. Raytheon E-Systems, 
    101 S.W.3d 558
    , 567
    (Tex. App.—Austin 2003, pet. denied).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 20
    Further, the Comptroller did not present evidence or authority to dispute the
    evidence that Cantu Enterprises was acting in its normal course of business when it
    purchased the aircraft. The evidence conclusively established that the aircraft
    purchase and lease agreement structure was tailored to Cantu Enterprises’ business
    needs. (2 RR 15–16, 23–28, 14–49). The evidence also showed the gains, benefits,
    and advantages achieved by the aircraft purchase (3 RR 32–33) and that, as an
    investment, the purchase was a “success.” (3 RR 33). Imposing the Comptroller’s
    arbitrary “normal course of business” requirements will re-write the statute under
    the guise of interpreting it, which Texas courts are not permitted to do.86
    B.     The Comptroller is not permitted to question the manner of
    Cantu Enterprises’ “normal course of business.”
    Further, although the Comptroller cites Day & Zimmerman v. Calvert87 to
    assert that the terms of a contract can be examined,88 looking to the terms of a
    contract is not at issue here. Instead, the issue is that the Comptroller questions the
    manner and conditions of an executed agreement to assert that the resale
    exemption does not apply. But Day & Zimmerman established that the manner and
    conditions of an agreement are not open for debate.89 Thus, the Comptroller has no
    basis for questioning, for example, the parties’ actions under the agreement or how
    Cantu Enterprises chooses to conduct its business generally. The fact is “a lease
    86
    Health Care 
    Servs., 401 S.W.3d at 627
    n.8.
    87
    
    519 S.W.2d 106
    , 108 (Tex. 1975). See also Appellant’s Br. at 10–11.
    88
    Appellees’ Br. at 29.
    
    89 519 S.W.2d at 110
    .
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 21
    contract is effective and enforceable according to its terms between the parties,
    against purchasers of the goods and against creditors of the parties.”90 Thus, the
    Comptroller cannot question Cantu Enterprises’ business dealings or set arbitrary
    “business standards” to deny Cantu Enterprises the sale for resale exemption.
    C.      Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft and leased it for
    diversification, risk management, and investment purposes — all
    of which show economic substance.
    The economic substance doctrine does not apply in this case.91 But even if
    the doctrine applies, the evidence established that the transaction had economic
    substance.92 Cantu Enterprises purchased the aircraft for the purpose of leasing it.93
    By purchasing and leasing the aircraft, Cantu Enterprises managed risk, diversified
    its business, and produced a long-term investment. (3 RR 8, 13–14, 18–19; 5 RR
    13–14). Therefore, the transaction is not a sham as it has independent economic
    benefits.94
    The Comptroller relies on Frank Lyon Co. v. United States,95 which neither
    applies nor changes this result. Unlike the parties in Frank Lyon Co., and contrary
    to the Comptroller’s assertions, Cantu Enterprises did not simply “draw up papers”
    90
    Tex. Bus. and Comm. Code § 2A.301 (emphasis added).
    91
    See Appellant’s Br. at 16–20. The Tax Code repeals common law when it conflicts with a
    statute’s plain language. Tex. Tax. Code § 101.004. The economic substance doctrine is a federal
    common law doctrine that has not been adopted in the Tax Code.
    92
    All the cases cited by the Comptroller are inapplicable because the transaction here, unlike the
    cases relied on by the Comptroller, has economic substance. Cf. Appellees’ Br. at 32.
    93
    See Appellant’s Br. at 5–8.
    94
    
    Id. at 16–20.
    95
    
    435 U.S. 561
    , 573 (1978).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 22
    with Cantu Consulting. Instead, beyond entering into a valid lease agreement with
    Cantu Enterprises, Cantu Consulting made lease payments (2 RR 154), entered into
    time-share agreements (2 RR 19), operated the aircraft (2 RR 21), and paid for
    operating expenses (3 RR 27). None of these transactions would have occurred if
    the parties had merely drawn up papers.
    The Comptroller’s assertions about Cantu Enterprises’ reliance on Health
    Care Services Corp. also do not apply and do not change the fact that Cantu
    Enterprises’ transaction had economic substance.96 As stated in Appellant’s Brief,97
    Health Care Services establishes that extra-statutory requirements cannot be
    imposed in the name of “economic substance”— as the Comptroller is doing here:
    However, we also made clear that if the statute does “not impose,
    either explicitly or implicitly,” the “extra-statutory requirement” urged
    by the Comptroller, “we decline to engraft one-revising the statute
    under the guise of interpreting it.” We did not suggest that, in the
    guise of considering the economic realities or essence of the
    transaction, courts were authorized to impose an entirely new
    requirement for a tax exemption that simply is not found in the
    language of the statutory exemption.98
    The Comptroller disregards the undisputed evidence showing that the
    purchase of the aircraft and resale transaction’s purposes were to manage risk,
    diversify assets, and create a long-term investment. (3 RR 8, 13–14, 18–19; 5 RR
    96
    Appellees’ Br. at 33 (saying Cantu Enterprises asserts that economic realities cannot be
    considered, citing Health Care Services Corp.).
    97
    Appellant’s Br. at 14–16.
    
    98 401 S.W.3d at 627
    n.8 (emphasis added). See also Appellant’s Br. at 15.
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 23
    13–14).99 The Comptroller also cites no authority to establish that entering into an
    agreement for these business reasons is not sufficient to establish economic
    substance.
    Further, even though the Comptroller asserts that this was a “sham
    transaction” that was not “arms-length” and the parties did not observe “corporate
    formalities,” the Comptroller provides no authority to establish the meaning or
    even relevance of these terms. Regardless, these terms or characteristics are not the
    test for “purpose.” For example, the Comptroller focuses on the fact that Cantu
    Consulting and Cantu Enterprises have similar ownership, but does not once
    address why distinct corporate entities with similar ownership cannot enter into a
    valid leasing transaction. The fact that the entities are related is irrelevant. Cantu
    Consulting is an entity wholly separate from its owner, Cantu Enterprises. Texas
    Courts “have never held corporations liable for each other’s obligation merely
    because of centralized control, mutual purposes, and shared finances.”100 Under the
    Comptroller’s interpretation, all leasing transactions between separate corporate
    entities with similar ownership would be “sham transactions.”101 This approach is
    99
    See also Appellant’s Br. at 14–16.
    100
    SSP Partners v. Gladstrong Invs. (USA) Corp., 
    275 S.W.3d 444
    , 445 (Tex. 2009); Coltec
    Indus., Inc. v. United States, 
    454 F.3d 1340
    , 1358 (Fed. Cir. 2006) (recognizing that
    minimization of liability is a bona fide business purpose).
    101
    The definition of sham transactions says nothing about related entities entering into a
    contract. Black’s Law Dictionary 1585 (10th ed. 2014) (“An agreement or exchange that has no
    independent economic benefit or business purpose and is entered into solely to create a tax
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 24
    obviously unreasonable. In sum, the evidence conclusively proved that Cantu
    Enterprises’ lease transaction had economic substance. The Comptroller did not
    establish lack of economic substance.
    Prayer
    Cantu Enterprises asks the Court to reverse the trial court’s denial of the sale
    for resale exemption and render judgment that Cantu Enterprises is entitled to a
    refund of the amount paid under protest plus statutory interest.
    Respectfully submitted,
    /s/ Doug Sigel
    Mark Eidman
    Texas Bar No. 06496500
    Mark.Eidman@ryanlawllp.com
    Doug Sigel
    Texas Bar No. 18347650
    Doug.Sigel@ryanlawllp.com
    Amy Wills
    Texas Bar No. 24093379
    Amy.Wills@ryanlawllp.com
    Ryan Law Firm, LLP
    100 Congress Avenue, Suite 950
    Austin, Texas 78701
    Telephone: (512) 459-6600
    Facsimile: (512) 459-6601
    Attorneys for Appellant
    advantage (such as a deduction for a business loss). • The Internal Revenue Service is entitled to
    ignore the purported tax benefits of a sham transaction.”).
    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 25
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    Hohengarten and Shannon Ryman, Office of the Attorney General, P.O. Box 12548,
    Austin, Texas, 78711-2548, Jack.Hohengarten@texasattorneygeneral.gov and
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    Appellant’s Reply Brief – Page 26
    Reporter’s Record Volume 2 Reply Reference
    2 RR 14–49
    2 RR 15–16
    2 RR 19–20
    2 RR 21
    2 RR 22–23
    2 RR 23–28
    2 RR 28–29
    2 RR 35
    2 RR 46–47
    2 RR 85
    2 RR 90
    2 RR 105–08
    2 RR 154
    2 RR 166–69
    14
    1 that time.
    2     Q.     Can you walk us through some of the steps that
    3 you worked with Mr. Levy on?
    4     A.     In putting the structure in place, detailing
    5 the structure, why that structure was necessary, and the
    6 liability protection it would afford, and also the FAA
    7 regulatory issues, and putting the lease agreements in
    8 place, and also registering for a Texas sales tax
    9 account.
    10     Q.     Did Enterprises already exist when the aircraft
    11 at issue was purchased?
    12     A.     Yes, it did.
    13     Q.     Did Enterprises own any previous aircraft?
    14     A.     Yes, it did.
    15     Q.     Did Advocate assist Enterprises with its
    16 purchase of the first aircraft?
    17     A.     Yes.
    18     Q.     And what was the purpose of Enterprises
    19 purchasing the second aircraft, the aircraft at issue?
    20                   MS. SAMS:    Objection --
    21     A.     This aircraft was purchased --
    22                   THE COURT:   Excuse me.     Once a lawyer
    23 stands we have to stop.
    24                   MS. SAMS:    Objection, foundation,
    25 Your Honor.
    15
    1                  THE COURT:     You have to establish how she
    2 would know what the purpose was from firsthand -- some
    3 firsthand basis, not what somebody told her.         I'm not
    4 sure you'd be able to do that with this witness, but go
    5 ahead.
    6     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Did you work with
    7 Enterprises when -- prior to Enterprises' purchase of
    8 the aircraft, were you involved with assisting
    9 Enterprises in its objectives for purchasing the
    10 aircraft?
    11     A.      Yes, I was.   I was involved in not only
    12 drafting the lease agreements but also directing the
    13 request for the resale account with Texas.
    14                  THE COURT:     I'm sorry.   You were also
    15 involved in -- you were involved in drafting the lease
    16 agreements but also what?
    17                  THE WITNESS:     Obtaining the resale account
    18 so that the entity could register as a dealer in Texas.
    19                  THE COURT:     Okay.
    20     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Were you involved with
    21 planning and putting into place the structure of the
    22 aircraft?
    23     A.      The structure was in a large part in place, but
    24 how the aircraft would be used in the structure, I was
    25 involved in that part of it and detailing the need for
    16
    1 the lease agreements, the lease agreements being put in
    2 place and the resale account being obtained in the state
    3 of Texas.
    4     Q.      And in that work, did you gain an understanding
    5 of Enterprises' purchase -- purpose for purchasing the
    6 aircraft?
    7     A.      Yes.
    8                    MS. SAMS:    Objection, hearsay.
    9                    THE COURT:   I don't know where you're
    10 headed, but it sounds like you're going to head to "What
    11 did they tell you?"      I don't know that you'll be able to
    12 do that, and it sounds like that's your sole basis.
    13 There may be a time later that you can get it in.           I
    14 don't know.    But I'll let you argue that if and when it
    15 comes up.     Next question.
    16                    MS. GOLDBERG:    Okay.   I'll move on.
    17     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)      Why did Enterprises seek
    18 Advocate's assistance with its purchase of the aircraft
    19 at issue?
    20     A.      One of the --
    21                    MS. SAMS:    Objection, foundation.
    22                    THE COURT:   Why did they seek your
    23 assistance; I mean, you'd have to establish how she
    24 would know why they came to her.
    25                    MS. SAMS:    And hearsay, Your Honor.
    17
    1                  THE COURT:     "What did they ask you to do"
    2 might be a different -- "When they came to you, what did
    3 they ask you to do?"    I doubt you'll get an objection to
    4 that because it's not offered to prove that anything's
    5 true.     It's just offered to prove that that's what they
    6 asked you to do.    I don't know why it helps me, but
    7 we'll see.    Next question.
    8     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    When clients seek Advocate's
    9 assistance with its purchase -- with their purchases of
    10 aircraft -- why do clients seek Advocate's assistance
    11 with their purchases of aircraft?
    12                  MS. SAMS:    Objection, foundation,
    13 Your Honor.
    14                  THE COURT:     Why do people generally come
    15 to you?    I don't -- I think she knows why they -- why do
    16 they say they come to you is not offered to prove that
    17 what they say is true; it's just offered to prove why
    18 they say they come to her.       Again, I don't know how that
    19 helps me at all to know why they come to you, but I am
    20 kind of curious about your business model, so it will
    21 satisfy that curiosity even if it doesn't help me in
    22 this case.
    23                  Why do people generally come to you?       Why
    24 do they say they come to you?       That's your question,
    25 right.
    18
    1                  MS. GOLDBERG:     That is my question.
    2                  THE COURT:     There you go.
    3     A.      Again, Advocate deals with a specialized niche
    4 of aviation and tax work.       Our clients are primarily
    5 using an aircraft in the operation of a business.          And
    6 in that complexity -- or a complexity arises where you
    7 have to deal with FAA regulatory compliance.          There's
    8 also a major influence of liability protection because
    9 of the liability that stems from the operation of an
    10 aircraft.    And then there's federal and state tax
    11 compliance requirements that are often complex.          And
    12 without having someone that are fully aware of those
    13 separate regimes and how they work together is difficult
    14 for a lot of clients, including major corporations, to
    15 avoid those trap falls that may result.
    16                  THE COURT:     And by liability, you mean
    17 liability for accidents?
    18                  THE WITNESS:     Yes, sir.     Insurance is
    19 often obtained, but when you have an accident where it's
    20 involving an aircraft, insurance is likely not going to
    21 be enough to provide you the liability protection you
    22 need.
    23     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Are Advocate's clients
    24 sophisticated in terms of aircraft transactions?
    25     A.      Although they're sophisticated in their own
    19
    1 business operations, the operation of a business
    2 aircraft, particularly the FAA regulatory regime,
    3 they're often not sophisticated in at all.
    4     Q.   And do clients involve Advocate for the purpose
    5 of avoiding state sales tax?
    6     A.   That's not the driving force for clients
    7 contacting us.   The federal regime is more important for
    8 most clients.
    9     Q.   Can you tell me a little bit about the services
    10 Advocate provided with respect to the aircraft at issue?
    11     A.   Yes.    The preparation of a lease agreement that
    12 was put in place, formation -- I shouldn't say
    13 formation, but registration for the resale account with
    14 the state of Texas to be able to collect and remit sales
    15 tax, analyzing the use of the aircraft to make sure the
    16 business use comports with federal requirements as far
    17 as recordkeeping and substantiation were primary matters
    18 that were done for this aircraft, as well as the Texas
    19 property tax rendition, assistance with that.
    20     Q.   And can you describe the structure Advocate put
    21 in place with respect to the aircraft?
    22     A.   Yes.    Enterprise owns the aircraft and leases
    23 it to Cantu Consulting, LLC.   Cantu Consulting, LLC in
    24 turn uses that aircraft for its consulting services as
    25 well as entering into time-share agreements.
    20
    1     Q.   Did Advocate assist with the formation of
    2 Consulting?
    3     A.   Yes, it did.
    4     Q.   And do you mind if I refer to Cantu Consulting
    5 as simply Consulting?
    6     A.   No, I do not.
    7     Q.   Can you explain why the structure you just
    8 described was used?
    9     A.   Yes.   There's an added level of liability
    10 protection first starting with segregating the aircraft
    11 into its own entity where it's going to be leased to
    12 other entities for operation; and then within
    13 Consulting, allowing that use pursuant to consulting
    14 arrangements and time-share agreements because it
    15 provides that added level of liability protection and
    16 privacy for the actual users of the aircraft.   You will
    17 find that a lot of times entities or competitors will
    18 track the movement of an aircraft to get a competitive
    19 edge; also for liability purposes, again, segregating
    20 that asset because insurance is not going to be enough.
    21 And on a secondary note, in litigation people will look
    22 for high-value assets for deep pockets and to satisfy
    23 the judgment, so there's an added level of segregating
    24 the asset for that purpose.
    25     Q.   And does Consulting own the aircraft at issue?
    21
    1     A.   Consulting does not own the aircraft.
    2     Q.   Was Consulting the operator of the aircraft?
    3     A.   It was the operator of the aircraft pursuant to
    4 a dry lease agreement that was put in place.
    5     Q.   Please describe how Enterprises acquired the
    6 aircraft at issue.
    7     A.   It acquired the aircraft as part of a 1031 or
    8 like-kind exchange, which, although you purchase the
    9 aircraft, it allows you to defer any recognition of gain
    10 on the purchase under provisions of the Internal
    11 Revenue -- I'm sorry, treasury regulations with the
    12 Internal Revenue Code.
    13     Q.   Okay.    So I want to direct your attention to --
    14                  THE COURT:     Excuse me.   What was the like
    15 kind that they did exchange for the purpose of this --
    16                  THE WITNESS:     The previous aircraft that
    17 they owned was transferred for this new aircraft.
    18                  THE COURT:     An equal exchange?
    19                  THE WITNESS:     Not an equal exchange in
    20 dollar value.    There would be gain on the disposition.
    21 But because of the provisions of the code, the gain is
    22 deferred until the second aircraft is sold.
    23                  THE COURT:     Thank you.
    24     Q.   (BY MS. GOLDBERG)       I want to direct your
    25 attention to the chart that's up on the screen.        This is
    22
    1 for --
    2                    MS. SAMS:    Objection, Your Honor.   This is
    3 not in evidence.
    4                    THE COURT:   Yeah, don't display anything
    5 until you've got it admitted.        And you may not care.
    6 You can use -- both of you can do demonstrative
    7 drawings -- you can even draw airplanes if you want,
    8 which you're good at it -- and I'm not going to consider
    9 it as evidence.      Is that okay?    Because you may at
    10 different times want to, you know, start drawing and
    11 have a witness go through your drawings with you.          Is
    12 that okay?    I won't consider it as evidence until it's
    13 admitted.
    14                    MS. SAMS:    Yes, Your Honor.
    15                    THE COURT:   All right.
    16                    MS. GOLDBERG:    Yeah, this is simply a
    17 demonstrative.
    18                    THE COURT:   All right.   Well, we'll see
    19 where you go with it.
    20     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)      Does this chart that's up on
    21 the screen help you explain what Advocate did in setting
    22 up the transaction?
    23     A.      Yes.
    24     Q.      Can you walk us through the transactions set up
    25 by Advocate using the diagram?
    23
    1       A.    Yes.   The aircraft in this case was purchased
    2 by Enterprises.     Enterprises purchased the aircraft for
    3 leasing.    So the lease agreement was put in place
    4 between Enterprises and Consulting, and that's the dry
    5 lease agreement.     Consulting was formed to provide
    6 consulting services to various entities within which
    7 Mr. Alonzo Cantu has an interest, whether it be a
    8 minority or a larger share, but consulting services were
    9 provided towards those entities in exchange for
    10 compensation, which was generally expenses.     In
    11 addition, Consulting entered into time-share agreements
    12 with parties that would be using the aircraft for issues
    13 that were unrelated to any consulting services provided.
    14       Q.    Which part of the FAA regulations did
    15 Enterprises hold the aircraft for lease under?
    16       A.    Enterprises holds the aircraft for lease under
    17 FAA Part 91, but the actual operation of the aircraft is
    18 done by Consulting, and that's also under Part 91.
    19       Q.    Can you explain a little bit about what Part 91
    20 is?
    21       A.    Part 91, most people associate it with business
    22 aviation because it's used by businesses in the
    23 operation of the aircraft for their own business
    24 purposes.    It's distinguished from Part 135, which is
    25 charter operations, and Part 121, which is commercial,
    24
    1 such as Southwest Airlines, where a person is offering
    2 the use of an aircraft to a party, pilot and crew
    3 services are provided, transportation.          Part 91, you
    4 can't do any of that.    You can't transfer -- transport
    5 cargo or persons for compensation.
    6        Q.   And what are the FAA penalties if an aircraft
    7 is operated outside of Part 91 without proper
    8 certification?
    
    9 A. I
    t's on a sliding scale.       It generally ranges
    10 from $1,000 to $10,000 per occurrence, which would mean
    11 per flight leg.    To the extent there's any type of
    12 incident in the aircraft, those fines could actually go
    13 into the millions.
    14        Q.   So were the Texas tax implications a
    15 significant reason for the structure that Advocate put
    16 in place --
    17                  THE REPORTER:     Excuse me --
    18                  THE COURT:     I'm sorry.    She didn't follow
    19 you either.    We need to slow down our pace just a tad.
    20                  MS. GOLDBERG:     Okay.     I apologize.
    21                  MR. SIGEL:     I would ask you to slow down,
    22 too.
    23        Q.   (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Were the Texas state tax
    24 implications a significant reason for the structure
    25 Advocate put in place for the aircraft?
    25
    1     A.     No.    Although tax considerations are going to
    2 be considered in any transaction, it's definitely not
    3 the driving force behind a particular structure.
    4     Q.     Earlier you used the term time-share.      Can you
    5 explain what a time-share is?
    6     A.     Yes.   As I said earlier, Part 91, you're
    7 generally prohibited from operating the aircraft by
    8 providing transportation services of person or cargo for
    9 money, but there is a limited exception within Part 91
    10 that allows you to time-share the aircraft.     And
    11 time-share are for large civil aircraft, which
    12 essentially means an aircraft that's more than 12,500
    13 pounds.    With a time-share agreement, you're allowed to
    14 transfer the person or cargo for compensation, but that
    15 compensation is very limited.     It's generally limited to
    16 twice the fuel cost and certain incidental fees such as
    17 rent fees or airport fees associated with that
    18 particular trip.
    19     Q.     Are time-share agreements required to be in
    20 writing?
    21     A.     Yes, because it is a large civil aircraft, so
    22 an agreement would be required to be in writing.
    23     Q.     And can you just give us a brief example of how
    24 a time-share agreement would work under Part 91?
    25     A.     Yes.   With a time-share agreement, using this
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    1 particular case as an example, Enterprises would lease
    2 the aircraft to Consulting.        Although Consulting is
    3 operating the aircraft pursuant to that lease, the
    4 purpose of its use is actually for the needs of the
    5 time-sharee.        So the time-sharee may say I want to go
    6 from Texas to Tampa.        They would document the fuel
    7 cost -- or the fuel burned for that particular trip and
    8 any fees that they incur, and the time-sharee would pay
    9 twice that amount of fuel plus those incidental fees, if
    10 any.        In addition, the time-sharee, because it is
    11 considered transportation, is going to have to remit
    12 excise tax on that payment.
    13        Q.      And is a time-sharee permitted to use the plane
    14 for non-business personal use?
    15        A.      Yes, the time-sharee can use the aircraft for
    16 any purpose.        They're just limited in what type of
    17 compensation they can pay to Consulting who is providing
    18 the time-share.
    19        Q.      Why did Advocate set up the time-share
    20 agreements as part of the structure?
    21        A.      The time-share agreements would be for use
    22 that's not related to the consulting business of
    23 Consulting.
    24        Q.      And was Consulting set up to generate revenue
    25 in a different way other than the time-share agreements?
    27
    1     A.   Yes, through the compensation that were
    2 received for the consulting with the various entities.
    3     Q.   Was the consulting entered into through any
    4 kind of arrangement?
    5     A.   Say that again.    I'm sorry.
    6     Q.   Was there a consulting arrangement for the
    7 consulting services?
    8     A.   There were consulting arrangements with a
    9 numerous amount of entities being provided by
    10 Consulting.
    11     Q.   Can you kind of explain what a consulting
    12 arrangement is?
    13     A.   Consulting arrangements in this case and in
    14 most cases in general, it's a situation where they're
    15 going to be providing some type of management or
    16 marketing functions, oftentimes long-term strategic
    17 management and marketing, in exchange for compensation.
    18 That compensation could be a small monthly fee or some
    19 type of flat fee in conjunction with reimbursement of
    20 expenses or it could just simply be the reimbursement of
    21 expenses in conjunction with all those consulting
    22 services you may provide.
    23     Q.   Are there any FAA limitations on the type of
    24 compensation Consulting can receive for these consulting
    25 arrangements?
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    1     A.   No, the FAA would not govern a consulting
    2 arrangement.   And to the extent that there's travel in
    3 furtherance of the consulting, that is separate and
    4 apart from the area that the FAA would regulate.
    5     Q.   So why would Consulting enter into these
    6 consulting arrangements rather than just use time-share
    7 agreements?
    8                 MS. SAMS:    Objection, Your Honor,
    9 foundation.
    10                 THE COURT:   I don't know how she would
    11 establish why they would do it or -- I'm not even sure
    12 how it helps me.
    13                 MS. GOLDBERG:    This is, you know -- it
    14 goes to --
    15                 THE COURT:   What possible reasons would
    16 they have for doing it?
    17                 MS. GOLDBERG:    Yeah --
    18                 THE COURT:   What hypothetically -- you
    19 want her to answer what hypothetical possible reasons
    20 would they have for doing it?
    21                 MS. GOLDBERG:    Yeah, why would a
    22 consulting entity enter -- use a consulting arrangement
    23 rather than just simply relying on these time-share
    24 agreements.    This goes to what she advises her clients
    25 to do.
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    1               THE COURT:     I'm sorry.    This goes to what?
    2               MS. GOLDBERG:     This is what she advises --
    3 Ms. Bivins advises her clients to do.
    4               THE COURT:     I'll allow her to tell me what
    5 possible reasons they would have, but I don't know,
    6 again, how that's going to help me.       I'll let it go to
    7 the weight, if any, that I'll give to it.
    8               What possible reasons would they have for
    9 doing that?
    10               THE WITNESS:     The consulting arrangement
    11 would allow them to obtain more compensation.       Again,
    12 the time-share agreements must be written, it's very
    13 rigid, and limits the compensation that could be
    14 received, which is going to be a major limitation on
    15 revenue that can be generated.
    16     Q.   (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    So what possible reason
    17 would Consulting have for using these time-share
    18 agreements?
    19     A.   Again, there may be a use for the aircraft
    20 that's completely unrelated to the consulting services
    21 being provided, and that would allow some revenue to be
    22 generated.
    23     Q.   Does Advocate provide any services for its
    24 clients on an ongoing basis after they set up the
    25 structure?
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    1     A.     Yes, we continue to provide services regarding
    2 federal return preparation.        That includes both income
    3 tax and excise tax, any state property tax matters that
    4 may be in place and need to put in additional agreements
    5 as circumstances change.
    6                   THE COURT:     Where's your office?
    7                   THE WITNESS:     We have offices in Tampa,
    8 Florida and Naples, Florida.
    9                   THE COURT:     Where's your office?
    10                   THE WITNESS:     My office is in Tampa,
    11 Florida.
    12     Q.     (BY MS. GOLDBERG)      Does Advocate provide its
    13 clients with any forms to fill out on an ongoing basis?
    14     A.     Yes.   Because there's recordkeeping
    15 requirements by the Internal Revenue Service, and in
    16 most cases where there's going to be a lease agreement
    17 there's going to be a need to maintain the flight log,
    18 we provide them a blank flight log that meets those
    19 substantiation and documentation requirements of both
    20 the service and what would be required under the lease.
    21                   And also, if there is any type of excise
    22 tax ramifications, which is going to be in place most
    23 times when there's a time-share agreement, we provide
    24 them with the worksheet to compute that time-share
    25 payment that's going to be due as well as the excise tax
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    1 liability that will be on the time-share agreement.
    2     Q.    I want to go through some of the plaintiff's
    3 exhibits with you.    I believe they've been pre-admitted.
    4                  THE COURT:    Nothing has been admitted.
    5                  MS. GOLDBERG:       Oh.
    6                  THE COURT:    But if you wish to stand and
    7 offer exhibits you may.       It's up to you.
    8                  MS. GOLDBERG:       We would like to offer
    9 plaintiff's exhibits, which are Nos. 1 through 21.
    10                  THE COURT:    No. 1 is a stipulation of
    11 facts.   That's an interesting exhibit, but that's fine
    12 with me if you've all vetted these exhibits and you want
    13 to admit them.    You're offering 1 through 21, all of
    14 them on your list?
    15                  MS. GOLDBERG:       Yes.
    16                  THE COURT:    Okay.        Any objection to any of
    17 plaintiff's exhibits?
    18                  MS. SAMS:    No.     We met before.     We have no
    19 objections.
    20                  THE COURT:    Thank you.        That's gracious of
    21 all of you.   Thank you.      1 through 21 are all admitted.
    22                  (Plaintiff's Exhibit 1 through 21
    23                  admitted)
    24                  MS. GOLDBERG:       Thank you.
    25     Q.    (BY MS. GOLDBERG)         Ms. Bivins, will you please
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    1 look at Plaintiff's Exhibit 4, which is Tab 4 in the
    2 notebook in front of you.
    3     A.      Yes, I have it in front of me.
    4     Q.      What is this document?
    5     A.      This is the dry lease agreement between
    6 Enterprises and Consulting for the lease of the
    7 airplane.
    8     Q.      And did Advocate prepare this lease?
    9     A.      Yes.
    10     Q.      Who are the parties to the lease?
    11     A.      Cantu Enterprises, LLC and Cantu Consulting,
    12 LLC as the lessee.
    13     Q.      Did Advocate accept the lease rate in this
    14 lease?
    15     A.      Yes, we did.
    16                    THE COURT:   When you're referencing Tab 4,
    17 I'm assuming, but the record will not assume, that Tab 4
    18 is the same as Plaintiff's Exhibit 4.        Is it?
    19                    MS. GOLDBERG:    Yes, it is Plaintiff's
    20 Exhibit 4 when I'm referencing Tab 4, correct.
    21                    THE COURT:   And I would just for the sake
    22 of your record make that clear.        Every time you're
    23 referencing an exhibit, reference it by exhibit number.
    24                    MS. GOLDBERG:    Thank you.
    25     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)      Please turn to Plaintiff's
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    1 Exhibit 21, which is Tab 21.
    2     A.   Yes, I'm there.
    3     Q.   What is this document?
    4     A.   This is the time-share agreement between
    5 Consulting and Alonzo Cantu.
    6     Q.   Who is the time-sharor in the agreement?
    7     A.   The time-sharor is Consulting.
    8     Q.   And who is the time-sharee?
    9     A.   Alonzo Cantu.
    10     Q.   Did Advocate prepare this time-share agreement?
    11     A.   Yes.
    12     Q.   Thank you.   Please look at Plaintiff's
    13 Exhibit 11, which is Tab 11.
    14     A.   Yes.
    15     Q.   What is this document?
    16     A.   Flight log for the aircraft owned by
    17 Enterprises.
    18     Q.   Is the flight log generated by Advocate?
    19     A.   We provide them the format, the blank
    20 document -- in this case it was an Excel spreadsheet;
    21 now it's an online tool -- but not the actual entry of
    22 the flight data.
    23     Q.   Who does Advocate provide the form to?
    
    24 A. I
    t's provided to the owner of the aircraft,
    25 Enterprises.
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    1     Q.      Why does the owner get the form?
    2     A.      The owner wants to maintain a flight log
    3 because it's required by Internal Revenue Code
    4 provisions.
    5     Q.      And where does the information in the form come
    6 from?
    7     A.      It's going to come from the operator of the
    8 aircraft, the lessee, Consulting.
    9     Q.      How often does Enterprises submit the flight
    10 logs to Advocate?
    11     A.      On an annual basis, to compute the rental
    12 amounts and also evaluate the business use of the
    13 aircraft.
    14     Q.      On this flight log, who is listed as the
    15 aircraft owner?
    16     A.      Enterprises.
    17     Q.      Please look at Plaintiff's Exhibit 12, which is
    18 Tab 12 in your notebook.
    19     A.      Yes.
    20     Q.      What is this document?
    21     A.      This is the aircraft invoice detailing the
    22 rental charges pursuant to the lease agreement that was
    23 put in place between Consulting and Enterprises.       It
    24 documents the rental charge for each flight based on the
    25 flight hours and then gives the total revenue for the
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    1 year -- or rental fees that has to be paid over from
    2 Consulting to Enterprises.
    3     Q.     Who prepared this document?
    4     A.     This document was generated by Advocate based
    5 on the information we received in the flight logs.
    6     Q.     The flight logs such as the ones we just looked
    7 at in Exhibit 11?
    8     A.     Yes.
    9     Q.     Who is listed as the lessor on the invoice?
    10     A.     Enterprises.
    11     Q.     And who is listed as the lessee?
    12     A.     Consulting.
    13     Q.     What is the purpose of this aircraft's renting
    14 invoice?
    
    15 A. I
    t documents the rental payment that's due to
    16 Enterprises pursuant to the lease agreement that they
    17 have in place.
    18     Q.     And if Enterprises and Consulting were not
    19 operating under the terms of the lease agreement, would
    20 a rental calculation be generated?
    2
    1 A. I
    f they were not following the terms of the
    22 lease they wouldn't need it.
    23     Q.     Please look at Plaintiff's Exhibit 13, which is
    24 Tab 13 in your notebook.
    25     A.     Yes.
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    1     Q.   What is this document?
    2     A.   This is the sales tax report which gives the
    3 sales tax that's due on the rental payment that's on
    4 Exhibit 12.
    5     Q.   Did Advocate generate this sales tax report?
    6     A.   Yes.   The sales tax report is also generated
    7 based on the flight log information that's provided.
    8     Q.   Can you kind of go through the steps of
    9 generating the sales tax report?
    10     A.   Yes.   The flight information once obtained is
    11 processed to determine the total number of hours.     And
    12 that total number of hours based on the rate in the
    13 lease is multiplied to determine the rate.   And then
    14 sales tax is applied to the total rental payment.
    15     Q.   What is the purpose of the sales tax report?
    16     A.   The sales tax report details the sales tax that
    17 have to be collected from the lessee.   Because
    18 Enterprises is a registered dealer, it has an obligation
    19 to collect the tax and remit it to the comptroller.
    20     Q.   Thank you.   Please look at Plaintiff's
    21 Exhibit 20, which is Tab 20 in your notebook.
    22     A.   Yes.
    23     Q.   What is this document?
    24     A.   This is the confirmation from the sales tax
    25 filing for the sales and use tax that was remitted by
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    1 Enterprises.
    2     Q.      Who prepared the sales tax filing?
    3     A.      Advocate did.
    4     Q.      And who is the taxpayer on this sales tax
    5 return?
    6     A.      The taxpayer is Enterprises.    Again, they're
    7 the registered dealer with the State of Texas, so they
    8 have a duty to collect and then remit over to the State
    9 the tax collected.
    10     Q.      So one of the things mentioned in the opening
    11 statement, which you were not here for, was that there
    12 were no paper checks from Consulting to Enterprises.
    13 Does that mean that no rent was paid on the rental
    14 payments?
    15                   MS. SAMS:    Objection, foundation.
    16                   THE COURT:    Let's not make any statements,
    17 especially about what lawyers are saying in opening
    18 statement.     Let's just ask the witnesses questions about
    19 what they know.     New question.
    20     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Are paper checks required to
    21 show that rent was paid from the lessee to the lessor?
    22     A.      No.   The paper checks themselves is not a
    23 reflection of the lease transaction.       That's documented
    24 by the written lease agreement itself.       And then further
    25 evidence of that is the flight log being maintained by
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    1 the lessee in accordance with the terms of a rental
    2 agreement.     Then rent being computed on an annual basis
    3 in accordance with the terms of the rental agreement,
    4 invoicing being provided, sales tax being computed and
    5 provided to the lessee as well, those are documents that
    6 evidence a lease transaction.       Absence of a check itself
    7 does not negate the lease transaction.
    8     Q.   Is it unusual for related entities to not write
    9 checks for such lease payments?
    10                  MS. SAMS:    Objection, Your Honor.     Calls
    11 for an opinion.     This is really getting into the area of
    12 expert testimony.     She's not being offered as an expert.
    13                  THE COURT:     I think it's really just
    14 facts, in her observations is it unusual for them to do
    15 it this way.    I'll let you cross-examine about this.
    16 And again, I don't know how much it's going to help me,
    17 but we'll just see.
    18                  Do you remember the question?
    19                  THE WITNESS:     Yes, sir.
    20                  THE COURT:     Go ahead.
    21                  THE WITNESS:     It is not unusual when it's
    22 closely held or related entities.
    23                  THE REPORTER:     Related entities?
    24                  THE COURT:     I'm sorry.    I don't think she
    25 got your answer.    "It is not unusual when it's
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    1 closely" ...
    2                  THE WITNESS:   When it's closely held or
    3 related entities, it's not unusual for it to be -- or an
    4 absence of a physical check transferring payment.
    5     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)   When Advocate set up the
    6 structure related to the aircraft, did Advocate instruct
    7 Enterprises on how to do its accounting?
    8     A.      No, we did not provide instructions on how to
    9 do the accounting.
    10     Q.      And based on the structure that Advocate set
    11 up, how would the federal income tax reporting be
    12 handled?
    13     A.      Consulting is a single member limited liability
    14 company.    That being the case, for federal income tax
    15 purposes it does not file its own return unless it makes
    16 a special election to be treated as a corporation.      That
    17 was not done in this case.      So all items of income and
    18 expense of both Consulting and Enterprises would be
    19 reported on a single return of Enterprises.
    20     Q.      Is Consulting a disregarded entity for federal
    21 income tax purposes?
    22     A.      Yes, it is a disregarded entity for federal tax
    23 purposes.
    24     Q.      Did Advocate recommend to Enterprises how the
    25 tax returns should be prepared?
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    1        A.      They were advised on how their tax returns
    2 should be prepared.        There's really no recommendation
    3 absent that election.          Their required to file one
    4 consolidated return.          It does not have the ability to
    5 file a separate return.
    6        Q.      Have you become aware of how the accounting was
    7 handled?
    8        A.      Yes, I have.
    9        Q.      How was it handled?
    10        A.      On a consolidated basis in line with the
    11 federal income tax reporting.
    12        Q.      In your experience, do closely-related
    13 companies keep separate books?
    14        A.      When you say separate books, that's kind of a,
    15 I guess, misnomer.        Do they document their transactions?
    16 Yes.        They may be in one program where they have
    17 separate files for each entity, or it could just be one
    18 program and they generate the reports as needed to look
    19 at activity of a particular entity.
    20        Q.      So if closely-related companies keep their
    21 books in a single file such as in Quick Books, are they
    22 still able to generate the reports they need?
    23                     MS. SAMS:    Objection, leading.   I'm going
    24 to object to the leading.
    25                     THE COURT:    You don't get to lead the
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    1 witness, as you know.     Don't say anything to suggest the
    2 answer.     Why don't you try a new question.
    3     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Do closely-related companies
    4 sometimes keep their books in a single Quick Books file?
    5                  MS. SAMS:    Objection, leading.
    6                  THE COURT:     I think you are suggesting the
    7 answer.     The open-ended question is "How do they keep
    8 their books?"     So don't suggest the answer and we won't
    9 have a leading problem.       Next question.
    10     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Is there anything inherently
    11 wrong with keeping a consolidated set of books?
    12     A.      There is no violation of any federal income tax
    13 requirements or even accounting principles.         Especially
    14 with the electronic or automated accounting functions,
    15 Quick Books being one of them, it's easy to generate the
    16 reports needed to isolate a single activity, so there is
    17 nothing prohibiting consolidated books.
    18     Q.      Did Advocate have an expectation regarding how
    19 revenue would be transferred between the two entities?
    20                  THE COURT:     I'm sorry.   Did Advocate have
    21 what?
    22                  MS. GOLDBERG:     An expectation regarding
    23 how revenue would be transferred between the two
    24 entities.
    25                  MS. SAMS:    Objection, leading.
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    1                  THE COURT:     I'm not sure I understand why
    2 it would matter what Advocate's expectation was.           The
    3 question is -- I'm having trouble making sense of it.
    4 Do you want to try a different approach?
    5                  MS. GOLDBERG:     Sure.   Advocate set up the
    6 structure that should be followed, and the defendants
    7 are claiming that the structure -- there is something
    8 inherently wrong with how the parties operated under
    9 that structure.
    10                  THE COURT:     Well, you're just going to
    11 need to ask a question that I understand.        I don't
    12 really understand the question, so try it again.
    13                  MS. GOLDBERG:     Okay.
    14     Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)    Based on your knowledge of
    15 the bookkeeping, do you believe that the structure
    16 Advocate set up was followed?
    17     A.      Yes, I do believe that the structure was
    18 followed.    Again, this was a disregarded entity for
    19 federal income tax purposes.       They would be filing a
    20 consolidated return based on the books that we received
    21 on preparation of those returns.       The consolidated
    22 federal income tax reporting was reflected in their
    23 consolidated accounting books.
    24     Q.      Please look at Plaintiff's Exhibit 5, which is
    25 Tab 5 in your notebook.
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    1     A.   And I apologize.    I am freezing.     Is it okay if
    2 I get my jacket?
    3               THE COURT:     It's certainly okay.
    4               MR. SIGEL:     Or I'll --
    5               THE COURT:     Counsel may approach the
    6 witness in order to provide her jacket.
    7               MR. SIGEL:     I'll get it.
    8               THE WITNESS:     I apologize.
    9               MR. SIGEL:     I'll approach with the jacket
    10 with the Court's permission.
    11     A.   And was that Exhibit 5?     I'm sorry.
    12     Q.   (BY MS. GOLDBERG)     Yes, Tab 5.
    
    13 A. I
    'm there.
    14     Q.   What is this document?
    15     A.   This is one of the accounting records from the
    16 consolidated books.    It's the sales detail.
    17     Q.   Can you tell whether the sales were made by
    18 Consulting or Enterprises?
    19     A.   Based on the memo and knowing that Consulting
    20 is a disregarded entity of Enterprises, I can tell that
    21 this is the record of transactions of Consulting.
    22     Q.   What about the memo tells you that?
    
    23 A. I
    t denotes that it's consultation service --
    24 well, consultation, which is in line with their
    25 consulting services.
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    1        Q.   Is Consulting required to remit federal excise
    2 tax?
    3        A.   Consulting is required to remit federal excise
    4 tax on the revenue that's collected from the time-share
    5 agreements.
    6        Q.   Why is it required to remit federal excise tax
    7 on the revenue collected from the time-share agreements?
    8        A.   Because the time-share agreements are
    9 considered a transportation service.        So although
    10 Consulting is leasing the aircraft and a dry lease is
    11 not subject to excise tax, it's then in turn using the
    12 aircraft to provide transportation services.
    13                    THE REPORTER:    I'm sorry.   I want to make
    14 sure I got that.      Although Consulting is leasing the
    15 aircraft ...
    16                    THE WITNESS:    Although Consulting is
    17 leasing the aircraft from Enterprises, that dry lease is
    18 not subject to excise tax, but because Consulting is
    19 then using the aircraft to provide a transportation
    20 service, that is subject to excise tax, the tax on air
    21 transportation.
    22        Q.   (BY MS. GOLDBERG)      Does Advocate file the
    23 excise tax returns for Consulting?
    24        A.   Yes.
    25        Q.   Who is the taxpayer on those tax returns?
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    1     A.      On those returns -- again, the disregarded
    2 entity is a disregarded entity for most federal tax
    3 purposes.     That's going to include the filing of the
    4 excise tax return.     So the taxpayer that's listed is
    5 Enterprises although the excise tax and the transaction
    6 giving rise to the excise tax is the transaction of
    7 Consulting.
    8     Q.      And what was Advocate's expectation regarding
    9 how Consulting and Enterprises would report for federal
    10 income tax purposes?
    11                  MS. SAMS:    Objection, relevance.
    12                  THE COURT:   How on earth would this help
    13 me what Advocate's expectation was regarding Consulting
    14 and Enterprises, how they're going to report for federal
    15 income tax purposes?    Why do I care what Advocate was
    16 expecting to happen?    Do you see my --
    17                  MS. GOLDBERG:    Yes.
    18                  THE COURT:   I don't know how that -- how
    19 that possibly pertains to the tax issue -- the state tax
    20 issue in this case.
    21                  MS. GOLDBERG:    Advocate set up the
    22 structure, and we want to establish that the structure
    23 was followed and that it was proper for Consulting under
    24 that structure not to file its own federal income tax
    25 returns.    We think the defendants are going to argue
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    1 that the lack of federal income tax returns filed by
    2 Consulting is somehow indicative of a collapsed
    3 structure between Enterprises and Consulting.
    4                       THE COURT:   Okay.   Well, I think I can
    5 just hear it and decide whether to give it any weight at
    6 all.        Your argument at the end of the case is going to
    7 be give that zero weight, right, that it doesn't matter,
    8 not that you don't believe what she's saying, but it
    9 doesn't matter?
    10                       MS. SAMS:    Yes, Your Honor.
    11                       THE COURT:   All right.   Go ahead.
    12        Q.      (BY MS. GOLDBERG)     So based on the structure
    13 Advocate set up, what was the expectation regarding how
    14 Consulting and Enterprises would report for federal
    15 income tax purposes?
    16        A.      Although Consulting is a disregarded entity for
    17 tax purposes, otherwise a respected entity for state law
    18 purposes, we understood that they would be filing a
    19 single return where all items of income and expense for
    20 both entities would be on one single return and that
    21 would be the return of Enterprises.
    22        Q.      Please look at Plaintiff's Exhibit 6, Tab 6.
    23        A.      Yes.
    24        Q.      What is this document?
    25        A.      This is the consolidated profit-and-loss
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    1 statement of Enterprises and Consulting.
    2     Q.     Is there any reason for Consulting to generate
    3 its own profit-and-loss statement?
    4     A.     Absent a need to file a federal income tax
    5 return, which it wouldn't do because it's a disregarded
    6 entity, there is no need for it to generate a separate
    7 profit-and-loss statement.
    8     Q.     Is there a depreciation deduction listed on the
    9 profit-and-loss statement?     It might be called
    10 depreciation expense.
    11     A.     Okay.   Just a second.   Yes, it is.   There is a
    12 depreciation expense for $1,076,761.
    13     Q.     Who would take that depreciation deduction?
    14     A.     Depreciation expense is an expense of
    15 Enterprises.   And although it's listed as an expense,
    16 it's really a deduction that's allowed under the Tax
    17 Code.    It's not a physical or economic outlay of cash.
    18 It's a deduction that's done under a five-year
    19 depreciation schedule, which in turn adjusts the basis
    20 of the aircraft.
    21     Q.     And which taxpayer on the tax return would get
    22 that depreciation deduction?
    23     A.     Enterprises.
    24     Q.     Would the depreciation deduction flow through
    25 to anyone else?
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    1 A. I
    t would flow through to the members of
    2 Enterprises.
    3     Q.   Who are the members of Enterprises?
    4     A.   Alonzo and Yolanda Cantu.
    5     Q.   And is the depreciation deduction a permanent
    6 benefit to Alonzo and Yolanda Cantu?
    7     A.   No.    Upon the sale of the aircraft, that gain
    8 is subject to ordinary income tax.
    9     Q.   Earlier you mentioned that Advocate assisted
    10 Enterprises with its property tax rendition.      Were you
    11 involved with any valuation of the aircraft?
    12     A.   Yes.    Part of the property tax rendition, you
    13 not only provide the value of the aircraft, which is
    14 what you're reporting to the State, but you're also
    15 providing the amount of Texas use.
    16                 THE COURT:   We're going to take a break
    17 pretty soon.    The court reporter's been going an hour
    18 and 45 minutes, we all have, just on this case.
    19                 MS. GOLDBERG:    I have two more questions.
    20                 THE COURT:   All right.   Good.
    21     Q.   (BY MS. GOLDBERG)      As part of the analysis for
    22 property tax purposes, would you expect there to be a
    23 positive cash flow in the first few years of aircraft
    24 ownership?
    25     A.   Definitely not within the first several years
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    1 of ownership.
    2     Q.   Would there eventually be a positive cash flow?
    3     A.   Due to the long useful life of aircraft,
    4 generally anywhere from 40 to 50 years, you would
    5 eventually expect a positive cash flow.
    6                  MS. GOLDBERG:   That's all I have for now.
    7 Thank you.
    8                  THE COURT:   You pass the witness?
    9                  MS. GOLDBERG:   I pass the witness.
    10                  THE COURT:   All right.   We'll go ahead and
    11 do cross-examination after the lunch break.      I'm going
    12 to resume with you at -- I've got to take care of some
    13 other matters.    It's 12 till 2:00 now.    I'll resume with
    14 you at 12 till 2:00, exactly two hours from now.       I'll
    15 see you then.
    16                  And you may step down if you wish.
    17                  MR. SIGEL:   May I make a quick inquiry to
    18 the Court?
    19                  THE COURT:   What is your inquiry?
    20                  MR. SIGEL:   Well, I'm just wondering, do
    21 you envision that this trial will go into Thursday just
    22 given our scheduling?
    23                  THE COURT:   Well, I've already explained
    24 to you I'm not available tomorrow morning at all because
    25 of a medical appointment.     And tomorrow afternoon I can
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    1 this time-share agreement, if Alonzo Cantu used the
    2 plane, he was only supposed to pay the cost that is
    3 reflected under No. 2, correct?
    4     A.     Correct.
    5     Q.     And that -- would it be a fair characterization
    6 that those are the operating expenses of the aircraft?
    7     A.     Essentially the operating expenses, yes.
    8     Q.     So this is a time-share agreement between
    9 Alonzo Cantu and Cantu Consulting, right?
    10     A.     Yes, it is.
    11     Q.     And Cantu Consulting agrees to operate the
    12 plane for Alonzo Cantu, correct?
    13     A.     Essentially that's what it boils down to,
    14 correct.
    15     Q.     And in return, Alonzo Cantu agrees to pay Cantu
    16 Consulting the expenses of operating the plane?
    17     A.     Correct.
    18     Q.     And there is no rental or lease rate above
    19 those operating expenses?
    20     A.     It's not permitted to be.   This tracks the
    21 language of the FAA part that limits the consideration
    22 that can be received on a time-share agreement.
    23     Q.     So the answer is that there's no lease or
    24 rental rate contained in this time-share agreement?
    25     A.     Between Mr. Cantu and Consulting, no, there
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    1 Cantu had zero interest?
    2     A.     That I would not know.
    3     Q.     The lease agreement required Cantu Consulting
    4 to pay for all of the expenses, correct?
    5     A.     Correct.
    6     Q.     And the lease agreement also required Cantu
    7 Consulting to pay a 600-dollar-per-hour flight hour rate
    8 on top of that, correct?
    9     A.     Correct.
    10     Q.     And you previously testified that if a lessee
    11 were only paying $600 per flight hour, that would be
    12 below fair market value, correct?
    
    13 A. I
    previously testified to that here?
    14     Q.     During your deposition.
    15     A.     Okay.   What did I testify to?
    16     Q.     That if a lessee were not paying operational
    17 expenses and were only paying $600 per flight hour, that
    18 that would be below fair market value for this plane?
    19     A.     Yes, I did testify that it wouldn't comport
    20 with fair market value rates if they paid that decreased
    21 rate without taking on the expenses.
    22     Q.     And when you communicated with Cantu
    23 Enterprises, you generally dealt with Rene Borrego,
    24 correct?
    25     A.     Yes.
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    1                  THE COURT:    No, he didn't ask you what the
    2 purpose is.    He just said do you know it.    Do you know
    3 it or -- I guess you do because now you're telling us
    4 what it is.    But do just listen to his question and only
    5 answer that question.
    6     Q.   (BY MR. SIGEL)       Let me just rephrase it.   Are
    7 you aware of the purpose of Enterprises in buying the
    8 plane at issue?
    9     A.   Yes.
    10     Q.   And how are you aware of that purpose?
    1
    1 A. I
    t was a business decision to get into the
    12 leasing business.
    13     Q.   Okay.    Could you explain the purpose of
    14 Enterprises in buying the plane at issue?
    15     A.   The purpose for me was to make money and have
    16 an entity that would pay itself over time and have a
    17 paid asset over time, which would be the plane.
    18     Q.   Okay.    Could you sort of explain the business
    19 plan that --
    20     A.   Well -- I'm sorry.       Go ahead.
    21     Q.   No, go ahead.
    22     A.   It's very simple for me.       I was able to borrow
    23 money at a very low rate, low down payment.      I would
    24 lease the plane to different entities and get cash flow,
    25 pay off the plane and eventually wind up with
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    1 basically --
    2                THE REPORTER:   I'm sorry.   I need you to
    3 slow down.
    4                THE WITNESS:    I'm sorry.
    5                THE REPORTER:   Wind up with ...
    6                THE WITNESS:    What I wanted to do is lease
    7 the plane to different entities that I -- and with the
    8 cash flow that I got, pay off the plane, the note, and
    9 then have an entity with an asset that was paid for.
    10     Q.   (BY MR. SIGEL)   Was this a recourse loan or a
    11 non-recourse loan?
    12     A.   Non-recourse loan for a low interest rate and
    13 low down payment.
    14     Q.   What was the significance of it being a
    15 non-recourse loan?
    
    16 A. I
    'm not responsible for the liability of the --
    17                THE REPORTER:   Not responsible for ...
    18                THE WITNESS:    For the loan on a personal
    19 level, like personal guaranty.
    20     Q.   (BY MR. SIGEL)   Were you expecting to make a
    21 short-term profit in this business?
    22     A.   No.   My expectation would have been to have an
    23 asset that was free and clear --
    24                THE REPORTER:   Excuse me.   I think I need
    25 to adjust this.
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    1                    (The Court gave instructions on
    2                    the use of microphone)
    3                    THE COURT:     Let's go back to a question.
    4                    THE REPORTER:     I'll repeat the question.
    5                    "Were you expecting to make a short-term
    6 profit in this business?"
    7                    THE WITNESS:     No, it wasn't a short-term
    8 profit.     It was a long-term profit, long-term being,
    9 you know, five to eight years.
    10        Q.   (BY MR. SIGEL)      And are you talking about from
    11 the perspective of the actual entity Cantu Enterprises,
    12 LLC?
    13        A.   Yes.
    14        Q.   Did Enterprises have any other purposes in
    15 buying the plane besides those you've just identified?
    16        A.   No.
    17        Q.   Did Enterprises want to use the plane?
    18        A.   No.
    19        Q.   Now, were you anticipating that you would be a
    20 passenger in this plane once it was purchased?
    21        A.   Not -- every now and then.      You know, I didn't
    22 buy it for me.
    23        Q.   Is there a distinction between you riding as
    24 passenger in the plane and the objective of --
    25 objectives of the entity in Cantu Enterprises, LLC?
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    1     A.      Well, the objective, like I said, is to lease
    2 it and make money, not necessarily to be on the plane.
    3 I fly on the plane probably 25, 30 percent of the time.
    4 And when I'm flying, I'm flying with one of the entities
    5 that leases it, so I get paid.         On a personal level, I
    6 fly very little.
    7     Q.      When you mention that you fly on the plane
    8 personally, how many times a year do you fly on the
    9 plane personally pursuant to the time-share agreement?
    
    10 A. I
    would say probably ten times a year.
    11     Q.      Now, if Enterprises had never bought the plane
    12 in question, would you still be able to enjoy the
    13 personal benefit of being a passenger on a business
    14 aviation jet that you currently enjoy?
    15                  MR. BOLSON:    Objection, leading.
    16                  THE COURT:    Well, I'm not really sure it
    17 suggested the answer.     It may have, but I'm not really
    18 sure that it's that controverted, this particular
    19 question.     In any event, try not -- from this point
    20 forward, don't ask any questions that suggest the
    21 answer.     Just ask open-ended questions and see where
    22 they go.
    23                  MR. SIGEL:    Okay.    So are you allowing him
    24 to answer this?
    25                  THE COURT:    You may not lead.    I'll allow
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    1 correctly?
    2       A.    Correct, but you didn't -- you didn't follow
    3 up.    The entities don't use the plane for free.      They
    4 pay a lease.       They pay a lease payment depending on the
    5 hours, so it's all cash flow.       And so I get cash flow,
    6 which is the lease, and I have learned a lot from the
    7 plane, and I do have a ranch that I opened.       And we
    8 talked about earlier -- you asked me about equipment
    9 leasing, and I haven't started that yet.       And it's all
    10 about cash flow.
    11       Q.    Okay.    Would you characterize the most
    12 important objective for your purchase of this aircraft
    13 to be for your business and basically for the
    14 convenience for your business?
    
    15 A. I
    think the number one is priority is to make
    16 money.     The way we're going to make money is to lease
    17 it.    Nobody flies the plane for free.
    18       Q.    I'm going to have you turn to Page 26.     But
    19 before I do that, I'm sorry, if you could just turn to
    20 25, Line 23.       Are you there?
    21       A.    Yes.
    22       Q.    Question:    "You identified a few objectives in
    23 your purchase of the subject aircraft, one of which was
    24 convenience.       Can you --"
    25                     And then it comes up and said, "The first
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    1     Q.      Okay.    So let me read this to you and you tell
    2 me why you think that's consistent with your testimony
    3 on direct.    I'm going to read from Lines 5 through 11.
    4                     "Okay.    Now, Mr. Bolson asked you some
    5 questions about your personal objectives with respect to
    6 this aircraft, and you talked about convenience and
    7 wanting to have a plane available.          I guess as a
    8 follow-up, what was the objective of Cantu Enterprises,
    9 LLC in buying the aircraft?"
    10                     Answer:    "Strictly business leasing."
    11                     Now, is that consistent or inconsistent
    12 with your testimony on direct?
    
    13 A. I
    t's consistent, and I've said that before.
    14     Q.      Okay.    Well, I think that on cross-examination
    15 Mr. Bolson questioned you about the convenience and
    16 flexibility --
    17                     THE COURT:    Let's go straight to questions
    18 because you're speaking an awful lot.          Let's go to a
    19 question.    Go ahead.        Since this is your witness.
    20     Q.      (BY MR. SIGEL)       Well, you heard -- you heard
    21 Mr. Bolson ask you about the convenience and flexibility
    22 of having a plane available, right?
    23     A.      Right.
    24     Q.      Do you recall that testimony?
    25     A.      Yes, sir.
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    1     Q.      Is the convenience and flexibility of having a
    2 plane available the reason why the entity Cantu
    3 Enterprises, LLC purchased the plane at issue?
    4     A.      No.   I mean, I can tell you it's just about
    5 cash flow, leasing, like my real estate investments.
    6 It's the same thing.     That's why I'm looking at
    7 equipment leasing now.     I think it's an entity that
    8 generates cash flow.     If you have debt, it'll service
    9 the debt.     Sometimes it's negative.    But as long as you
    10 have a good hard asset, like I mentioned my house in the
    11 Valley a few times, I can rent it, but I don't rent it
    12 to just anybody.     When I pay off the mortgage, it's an
    13 entity that's -- it's an asset I can sell or continue
    14 leasing for cash flow.
    15     Q.      Well, do you disagree with the suggestion
    16 that's been made that this plane was purchased for your
    17 personal use and that your personal convenience and
    18 flexibility justify the purchase of this plane?
    19                   MR. BOLSON:   Objection, leading.
    20                   THE COURT:    I do think you're suggesting
    21 the answer, "Don't you disagree with that?"       You're
    22 really just speaking and getting him to say yes, I
    23 disagree with that.     So I do think that suggests the
    24 answer.     Let's ask more open-ended questions since you
    25 cannot lead this witness.
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    1                  MR. SIGEL:    Well, let me reask it.
    2     Q.      (BY MR. SIGEL)    Have you heard Mr. Bolson's
    3 suggestion that this plane was purchased for your
    4 personal convenience and flexibility?
    
    5 A. I
    heard him say that.    That is not the fact
    6 because I don't fly enough.      I don't have time to fly.
    7 I'm busy all the time.       To me it's a business enterprise
    8 that generates cash.     And hopefully, if it flies enough,
    9 we'll have enough cash flow to service the debt.
    10     Q.      Well, if you hadn't bought the plane, would you
    11 have the same convenience and flexibility without having
    12 this plane that this entity owns available to you?
    13                  MR. BOLSON:    Objection, leading.
    14                  THE COURT:    I'm not sure that does suggest
    15 the answer, at least not in a way that's obvious to me.
    16 Go ahead.
    
    17 A. I
    nitially when we bought the plane, we were
    18 looking at cash flow and looking at the pros and cons
    19 and thought we might have a negative cash flow.         And for
    20 convenience I could have bought time-share hours; or I
    21 don't know what they call it when you fly with someone
    22 else.    But we decided I think we can generate enough
    23 cash flow from the leasing to pay off the debt.         And
    24 yes, like I told you earlier, I mentioned last week I
    25 had to lease a plane to go to Houston.       And a few months
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    1 back I had one for Dallas.
    2                  THE COURT:     A different plane?
    3                  THE WITNESS:     A different plane.
    4     Q.   (BY MR. SIGEL)       Well, is it true that as this
    5 plane has been made available to you after it was
    6 purchased you've seen convenience and flexibility just
    7 as a passenger in it?
    8     A.   Yes.
    9     Q.   Was that the reason why the plane was purchased
    10 by the entity Cantu Enterprises, LLC or not?
    11     A.   Yes.
    12     Q.   Well, you're saying convenience and flexibility
    13 was the reason?
    14     A.   No, no, no.     The number one priority was cash
    15 flow leasing.     I think we're getting confused here.      I'm
    16 all about cash flow and how are you going to get cash
    17 flow for leasing.     Now, is it convenient for me to have
    18 a house at the island?     Well, when I go if it's
    19 available I'm going to go because it's a nice place,
    20 just like the plane.     But I'm not going to go buy
    21 something for several million dollars to go use it just
    22 every now and then because I want it on demand.
    23                  THE COURT:     Why did you have to lease
    24 another plane?    You've got me curious now.     Was this
    25 plane not available?
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    1     A.      Contrast my roles?   Well, they're very similar.
    2 Mr. Cantu trusts me.    I've worked for him for a long
    3 time.    I have a really good knowledge of the way he does
    4 business.    And I take care of his -- I take care of
    5 his -- I take care of his wealth to make sure that we
    6 protect his assets and to make sure that we provide him
    7 as much liability protection as we can.     That's the
    8 primary role.
    9     Q.      Do you work with him on business plans?
    10     A.      Yes.
    11     Q.      What is your role with Consulting?   And I mean
    12 the entity called Consulting.
    13     A.      With Cantu Consulting, when we -- when we
    14 bought the plane, I'm the one who negotiated the loan.
    15 I met with several banks and negotiated a non-recourse
    16 loan, which means that Alonzo didn't have any -- he
    17 wasn't at risk personally if the loan went bad or
    18 anything like that.    I consulted with the insurance
    19 brokers.    I consulted with Advocate with the structure.
    20 I looked at the planes, the type of planes, that type of
    21 stuff.
    22     Q.      What was your role in the decision to purchase
    23 the plane by Enterprises?
    
    24 A. I
    guess I'm probably the one who spearheaded
    25 that, having talked to some brokers that approached us
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    1 about buying and selling planes to us.      We looked at
    2 things like range of fuel efficiency, cabin size, going
    3 to dual pilots instead of single pilot.     The first plane
    4 was single pilot.     The second plane was dual pilot.        I
    5 looked at all of those things.     But I also looked at the
    6 fact that business-wise we could -- we could -- it would
    7 cash flow in such a way that Alonzo would have an asset
    8 that had value for 30 or 40 years once we finished
    9 paying the debt.     To me it made sense.
    10     Q.      Now, did you make a distinction -- excuse me.
    11 Did you make a distinction between Enterprises as an LLC
    12 and Mr. Cantu as an individual?
    13     A.      Yes.   Alonzo's a very complicated individual.
    14 He's a sophisticated investor.     And every asset that he
    15 has we structure in such a way that they're separate
    16 entities.    For example, his tax return this year, we'll
    17 have 90 K-1s that feed into his return this year.        So
    18 every asset, we meet with estate planners.      We meet with
    19 attorneys.    We meet with our insurance brokers.    We do
    20 everything we can so that we're structured in such a way
    21 to protect his wealth and reduce his liability, his
    22 exposure.
    23     Q.      We've heard some testimony from Ms. Bivins, and
    24 I know you were here for that testimony, but I'd like
    25 your factual testimony regarding the role of Advocate
    9
    1 Consulting.
    2     A.      You know, we rely heavily on Advocate when it
    3 comes to the plane.     When we bought the plane -- or when
    4 we decided to go into the plane business, the leasing
    5 planes, we had no idea how complex it is to own a plane.
    6 I thought you could just -- like buying a car, you go on
    7 and you go wherever you want.     That's not the way it
    8 works.     The FAA heavily regulates the industry for
    9 security reasons and for other reasons.     It's very, very
    10 complicated and the forms that are used.     There's no way
    11 that I was ever going to be an expert.     There's no way I
    12 would want to be an expert.     I'm just way too busy to
    13 get into that.     So I'm very dependent and very reliant
    14 on Advocate to consult with us, to make sure that we're
    15 in compliance on the tax side, on the legal side with
    16 the FAA.    You know, they're my go-to people.   We
    17 wouldn't -- we couldn't operate without them.
    18     Q.      Who was doing the bookkeeping for Enterprises?
    19     A.      We outsourced that to the Cantu Construction
    20 staff.
    21     Q.      And who was doing the bookkeeping for
    22 Consulting?
    23     A.      The same staff.
    24     Q.      Can you give an approximation of how many
    25 entities that staff does bookkeeping for?
    12
    1 return.    I don't know if I answered the question.
    2     Q.     Well, was there any other reason why there
    3 wasn't a separate bank account set up for Consulting, or
    4 have you stated all the reasons?
    5     A.     No.    Well, we talked to our tax accountants,
    6 and when they set up Cantu Consulting, it was a single
    7 member LLC.      And single member LLCs can't file tax
    8 returns.   They have to file consolidated returns.       And
    9 we've had some experience in the past.      We had a company
    10 called Cantu Management, LLC that was also a single
    11 member LLC.      And we got a letter from the IRS telling us
    12 that we couldn't file single member LLC; we had to file
    13 a consolidated return.      So we do have some experience
    14 with single member LLCs.      And knowing that we were going
    15 to have to do a consolidated return and for the ease of
    16 the bookkeeping process, we -- our books were left in a
    17 consolidated form to match what we were going to do for
    18 the tax return.
    19     Q.     Now, on a monthly basis, did Enterprises have
    20 access to funds, the payment of the various expenses?
    21     A.     Enterprises really didn't have a way of
    22 generating money.      They didn't have any -- other than
    23 the leasing payments they got from Cantu Consulting,
    24 they had no source of revenues.      Cantu Consulting was
    25 actually the one who generated the revenue.      So that
    14
    1     A.      We created wealth.
    2     Q.      Okay.    So you mentioned several times business
    3 plans.   Were there any business plans done in connection
    4 with the decision to purchase the second plane?
    5     A.      Definitely.    I mean, we looked at it.    We
    6 thought that it would cash flow.         We thought that it was
    7 a good investment.       As a matter of fact, our situation
    8 right now is the plane is worth somewhere north of
    9 $5 million.    Our debt is probably close to a million
    10 dollars or less.       So we've created like $4 million in
    11 equity since we've had this plane.
    12     Q.      Well, I think you're kind of jumping ahead with
    13 me, you know, which is okay, but I want to focus first
    14 on the planning that went into this --
    15     A.      Sure.
    16     Q.      -- as opposed to the results that you've
    17 achieved.     Focusing on the planning that went into this,
    18 kind of walk us through what analysis was done before
    19 the decision was made to buy the second plane to the
    20 extent you haven't already done it.
    21                     MR. BOLSON:   I'm going to object because
    22 it calls for a narrative, and it's asked and answered.
    23                     THE COURT:    Do you want to take another
    24 stab at it or do you want to have an argument about
    25 this?
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    1 It's not easy to buy a plane.     I'm not an expert on
    2 planes or aviation.     I'm not an expert on the aviation
    3 industry.     So I relied heavily on experts to give me
    4 guidance as to what type of plane to buy and what kind
    5 of structure to create, whether or not the cash flow
    6 will be good, range and things like that.     It wasn't a
    7 decision we took lightly or I took lightly.     It was a
    8 decision that we worked at, and it was -- it was a
    9 business decision.     It was not -- it was something that
    10 we put some effort into.
    11     Q.      (BY MR. SIGEL)   Well, I want to phrase this
    12 question carefully.     I don't want you to tell me what
    13 Mr. Cantu told you about the decision.     I do want you to
    14 tell me what you told Mr. Cantu about the decision to
    15 buy the plane.
    
    16 A. I
    told him I thought it would work out fine.
    17 There's always risk in every business.     And like any
    18 other business, there were some risks in this.      But I
    19 thought that we could reach our objectives in a safe
    20 manner.     The plane was going to maintain its value.      My
    21 recommendation to him was that it was a good investment.
    22 In fact, we even -- to this day we're looking at maybe
    23 buying other planes.     We try real hard to diversify
    24 ourselves.     We're very heavily in real estate.   He has
    25 a lot of his wealth in the hospital units.     He has a lot
    19
    1 of wealth in the bank stock.     And down in the Valley we
    2 don't have a lot of big corporations, so you really have
    3 to work hard in creating wealth down there.     And so
    4 we're trying to diversify a little bit, and this was
    5 just one effort.   The restaurant was a little bit of
    6 diversification.   The title company was some
    7 diversification.   We don't have a huge amount of assets
    8 invested there, but it is diversification nonetheless.
    9     Q.    Did Mr. Cantu to your observation take a role
    10 in actually looking at the particular plane before it
    11 was purchased?
    
    12 A. I
    don't think he even saw it until we brought
    13 it in the market -- until we bought it.
    14     Q.    Why do you say that?
    
    15 A. I
    don't remember him looking at it.    I don't
    16 remember him going to go visit it.     I don't remember --
    17 I don't think -- I don't recall that.
    18     Q.    Let me ask about the pilot arrangements.       Could
    19 you kind of explain how that worked for both of these
    20 planes?
    21     A.    We had a contract with a company called Garza
    22 Flight Services.   And Garza Flight Services, they're
    23 responsible for hiring pilots, for training pilots, for
    24 finding pilots and then providing us pilots when we need
    25 them.
    22
    1     Q.    So how did the parties operate before the
    2 agreement was physically executed by Mr. Cantu?
    3     A.    Well, the agreements were already -- they were
    4 already agreed upon.     We already had the -- I guess you
    5 would call them oral agreements in place.     We already
    6 had stipulations of what was going to happen.     We
    7 already had the structure in place.     Nothing was going
    8 to change.   No one was going to object to the structure.
    9 We were all in agreement with the structure.     So it was
    10 already in place.    I don't know, I guess -- I don't
    11 really know -- I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know how you
    12 describe it, but I guess it would be oral agreements, I
    13 guess.   I don't know.
    14     Q.    Well, who was operating the plane before the
    15 lease agreement was executed?     Cantu Enterprises or
    16 Cantu Consulting?
    17     A.    Cantu Consulting.     Cantu Enterprises wasn't
    18 operating it.
    19     Q.    Was the plane delivered to Cantu Consulting in
    20 the same form or condition that it was purchased by
    21 Cantu Enterprises?
    22     A.    That's correct.     No modifications were made to
    23 the plane.
    24                 MR. BOLSON:    I'm going to object.    Sorry
    25 for being a little late on that, but I'm going to object
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    1 very easy.
    2     Q.      Has anyone except the comptroller's office
    3 objected to the way the bookkeeping was done?
    4     A.      Not that I'm aware of.
    5     Q.      Has the IRS objected?
    6     A.      Not at all.
    7     Q.      There's been some testimony that you've heard
    8 about whether the lease was followed.      Have you heard
    9 that testimony?
    10     A.      Yes.
    11     Q.      And do you understand that one of the questions
    12 that's been raised is whether the operating expenses
    13 were ultimately charged to Consulting, correct?
    14     A.      That's correct.
    15     Q.      And based on your factual knowledge, was the
    16 lease followed or not with respect to the operating
    17 expenses?
    18     A.      In practicality, the money used to pay for the
    19 expenses was Cantu Consulting's money.      Cantu
    20 Enterprises had very limited way to generate income.
    21 Cantu Consulting through their consulting business is
    22 the one who generated all the revenue.      They're the ones
    23 who had the clients.      So their money was deposited in
    24 the account and their money was used to pay the bills.
    25 It wasn't Cantu Enterprises' money.
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    1 A. I
    would -- I would probably want to look at
    2 multiple years to tell you specifically.
    3     Q.    Well, you've got 2010, 2011, 2012.    Is that
    4 enough for you to give us an assessment at least based
    5 on those three years?
    6     A.    Give me just a moment to look at them.
    7 Basically, if you -- it's showing some losses, but a lot
    8 of that loss is what they call a paper loss.       If you add
    9 back the depreciation, cash flow-wise they're probably
    10 losing somewhere between -- it was I guess about 3 or
    11 400,000 the first few years, and I think it's gotten
    12 down to -- if I did the math correctly, down to about
    13 250 or 300,000 in the more recent statements.
    14     Q.    Well, I think that there's been a lot of
    15 suggestion that these losses somehow are a negative
    16 factor.   Do you agree that this is a negative situation
    17 or not?
    18                MR. BOLSON:   Objection, leading.
    19                THE COURT:    I'll allow this.
    20     A.    In the big picture, I think that we've
    21 accomplished what we wanted to accomplish in this
    22 particular business.    We have an asset that has a value
    23 north of $5 million.    Our debt is almost gone.     Probably
    24 within the next couple years the debt will be gone.         The
    25 asset will have a useful life of 30 to 40 years.       In
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    1 comparison to the way we handle other rental properties,
    2 it's a very similar type transaction.    It worked out the
    3 way we wanted it to.
    4     Q.   So do you label this as a success or a failure?
    
    5 A. I
    think it's a success.
    6     Q.   You mentioned that there was some planning to
    7 actually buy a third plane.
    8     A.   I'm sorry.    I didn't hear you.
    9     Q.   You mentioned earlier -- I believe I heard you
    10 say there was some planning to purchase a third plane.
    11 What were you referring to there?
    12     A.   We have been talking with a broker in the last
    13 few months about buying another aircraft, increasing the
    14 fleet size.   In the Valley there's not that many
    15 charter -- or aren't that many planes in the Valley.     I
    16 think that we would have -- with the continuing growth
    17 of the companies that we do consult with, with the
    18 hospital and the bank, I think that we would have been
    19 able to justify -- we would be able to justify buying
    20 another plane and increasing our services.
    21     Q.   Now, if you could look at Plaintiff's
    22 Exhibit 12, please.    Can you tell us what this document
    23 shows?
    24                MR. BOLSON:    Your Honor, I'm going to
    25 object on grounds of lack of foundation.     I believe
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    1 Enterprises from the point at which the plane at issue
    2 was purchased?
    3     A.      Yes.
    4     Q.      And why do you say yes?
    5     A.      Well, Cantu Consulting, they're the only ones
    6 that had a mechanism for generating revenue.       Cantu
    7 Enterprises had no mechanism for generating revenue
    8 other than the lease payments that it got from Cantu
    9 Consulting.    Cantu Consulting, because of the work they
    10 did, because of the consultations they did, they
    11 generated revenue that created the funds to make it
    12 possible to pay the bills and continue to operate the
    13 aircraft.
    14     Q.      From a liability standpoint, were they run
    15 separately or the same -- as the same entity?
    16     A.      They are separate.   Like I mentioned to you
    17 earlier, we have dozens of lawyers and estate planning
    18 attorneys and accountants that consult with us on a
    19 regular basis for making sure that our entities are
    20 set up in such a way that they shelter other assets from
    21 liability.
    22     Q.      From a recordkeeping standpoint, were these run
    23 as separate entities?
    24     A.      From a recordkeeping I would say no.    We had a
    25 consolidated set of books.
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    1     Q.   I'll refer your attention to Line 10.    My
    2 question at that time was, "Would it be fair to say that
    3 the entities that rented the aircraft were either
    4 Mr. Cantu or Mr. Cantu's business entities?"
    5                  And your answer on that date was, "For the
    6 most part, yes."
    7     A.   That's what it says here.
    8     Q.   And so your answer today is inconsistent with
    9 the answer you provided back then.    Would you agree?
    10     A.   Yes.
    11     Q.   I believe you indicated that Cantu Construction
    12 paid for -- or at least operated this aircraft from time
    13 to time; is that right?
    14     A.   It would probably be less than ten flights.
    15     Q.   And would Mr. Cantu ever personally pay for
    16 those flights?
    
    17 A. I
    don't know.
    18     Q.   Do you know if Mr. Cantu ever paid for any of
    19 the flights on behalf of the entities that you were
    20 billing for those flights?
    2
    1 A. I
    don't believe he -- as a matter of practice,
    22 I don't think he does that, no.
    23     Q.   Could I have you turn to Defendant's
    24 Exhibit 14, please.
    25     A.   Okay.
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    1 It's not offered to prove that what the bank said is
    2 true but that they made these interrogations.     Let's
    3 limit it to that and keep doing.
    4     Q.      (BY MR. SIGEL)   Would you please continue your
    5 answer?
    
    6 A. I
    also got the loan officer in contact with
    7 Advocate Consulting, and I believe he also talked to our
    8 CPAs.     But he did a very -- he did a lot -- he asked
    9 a lot of documents from me.     I had a lot of conversation
    10 with him.     He ran spreadsheets for me on the mileage of
    11 the plane, the efficiency.     He also helped us do some
    12 research on the acquisition of the plane as well.
    13     Q.      You mentioned that the bank evaluated the
    14 business plan.     What was -- what did you communicate to
    15 the bank about the business plan?
    16     A.      Exactly what our intent was on the use of the
    17 bank and what services we planned on providing.
    18     Q.      Did you express to the bank why Enterprises was
    19 buying the plane?
    20     A.      Yes.
    21     Q.      And what did you tell the bank officer?
    22     A.      When we met with -- when I met with the bank
    23 officer I expressed to him that we felt like the
    24 aircraft would help facilitate our consulting business
    25 and that it would help grow our clients' businesses with
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    1 Alonzo being able to attend meetings with them and
    2 particularly political meetings in Austin and
    3 Washington.
    4     Q.   Was there a discussion of the leasing
    5 structure?
    6     A.   Yes, there was.
    7     Q.   And did you explain the role, if any, of the
    8 lease in the transaction?
    
    9 A. I
    did to the best of my ability.     But like I
    10 mentioned earlier, I'm really not an expert on the exact
    11 intricacies of each document and what they do and that
    12 type of stuff.    So a lot of that information they would
    13 have had to have gone to Ms. Blevins [sic] to get.
    14     Q.   Are you talking about Ms. Bivins with Advocate
    15 Consulting?
    16     A.   Ms. Bivins.    I'm sorry.   Ms. Bivins, yes.
    17     Q.   So did you put the bank in touch with
    18 Ms. Bivins to discuss the details of the transactions
    19 that she testified about earlier?
    20     A.   Yes.
    21     Q.   And was there a discussion about the business
    22 model being a lease structure with the plane being
    23 leased by Enterprises to Consulting?
    24     A.   Yes, there was.
    25                  MR. BOLSON:   Objection, leading.
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    1                     THE COURT:    Excuse me.   Once a lawyer
    2 stands you have to stop.
    3                     MR. BOLSON:    My objection is leading.
    4                     THE COURT:    It was leading.   Different
    5 question.
    6        Q.   (BY MR. SIGEL)       Did you have any discussion
    7 with the bank officer with Wells Fargo about the
    8 structure that was going to be used?
    
    9 A. I
    did.
    10        Q.   And could you describe what that discussion
    11 was?
    
    12 A. I
    spoke to him about the leasing -- or the
    13 consultation services that Cantu Consulting would be
    14 providing.
    15        Q.   And was there a discussion about the lease
    16 structure where you discussed that with him or not?
    
    17 A. I
    myself did not get into that specific part of
    18 it.     I'm sure that he would have had that conversation,
    19 though, with Advocate, not with myself.
    20        Q.   Well, just to clarify, did you provide the
    21 lease agreements to Wells Fargo?
    22        A.   Yes, I did.
    23        Q.   Okay.    So was that you who provided it or was
    24 it Advocate who provided the lease agreements?
    25        A.   Advocate provided me with all of the
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    1 rough drafts and all the -- I'm sorry, with the
    2 documents, and I turned around and forwarded them to
    3 them -- I'm sorry, turned around and forwarded them to
    4 the bank.
    5     Q.      Well, just to clarify, are you referring to
    6 rough drafts or are you referring to the final
    7 documents?
    8     A.      To the final documents.
    9     Q.      Okay.   So you didn't portray those lease
    10 agreements as being rough drafts, did you?
    11     A.      No.
    12     Q.      Okay.   You mentioned that there were flight
    13 logs that were submitted.      Are you referring to due
    14 diligence that was done before the purchase of the
    15 second plane or after the purchase?
    16     A.      Primarily after.   The bank every year will --
    17 they make a site visit where they inspect the plane just
    18 to make sure the asset's still there, it still exists.
    19 And they'll also review our flight logs.      They'll meet
    20 with me to discuss financial statements.      They'll look
    21 at our tax returns.     Every year we need to update their
    22 files on all those documents and things.
    23     Q.      Did the bank get any information from you or
    24 others with respect to the lease payments?
    25     A.      Yes.
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    1     Q.   Did the bank see lease payment calculations?
    2     A.   Yes.     The bank reviewed all of those documents,
    3 all the financial records.
    4     Q.   Well, if you could just -- just so we have a
    5 very clear record here, if you could look at Plaintiff's
    6 Exhibit No. 11.    Is that document, which is the flight
    7 log that's been discussed here -- was that provided as
    8 part of the post-purchase due diligence?
    9     A.   When they requested of me the flight logs, I'm
    10 not certain that they got these flight logs or the
    11 flight logs directly from the pilot, because they
    12 communicated with myself and also with the pilot,
    13 because the pilot is the person who's in charge of
    14 maintaining the records for the aircraft, so he would
    15 have the official flight logs.    So I'm pretty certain
    16 that they would have gotten the official logs and not
    17 the summary here that was prepared by Advocate.
    18     Q.   Are you suggesting, just to clarify, that Wells
    19 Fargo was actually speaking with the pilot as part of
    20 the post-acquisition due diligence?
    21     A.   More than likely they did just to get the
    22 flight logs, because I didn't have possession of the
    23 flight logs.    They would have had to have gotten them
    24 from them.
    25     Q.   If you could turn to Plaintiff's Exhibit 12,
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    1 because we don't -- I don't want to take the risk to
    2 lease to somebody that I'm not involved in.
    3     Q.      Let's talk about that.      As I understand it, you
    4 only lease to related entities.         And -- and when I say
    5 'you,' I'm referring to Cantu Enterprises or Cantu
    6 Consulting.
    7     A.      That's correct.
    8     Q.      Okay.    And the reason, as I understand it now,
    9 is that you don't want to take on the risk of unrelated
    10 third parties damaging the aircraft.
    11     A.      That and also the liability.
    12     Q.      And what do you mean by 'the liability'?      What
    13 are -- what are your concerns with regard to that
    14 aspect?
    15     A.      Basically mostly hearsay, but I've heard about
    16 airplane accidents and then you get sued and all kinds
    17 of stuff.     So one of the things that -- when I
    18 considered buying the plane, the person that sold it to
    19 us said, 'You need to hire a consultant to keep track of
    20 all the compliance that goes along with the FAA and the
    21 planes and then get insurance,' and all kinds of stuff.
    22 And I felt so concerned about the liability that I --
    23                     THE REPORTER:   I'm sorry.   'And I' ...
    24                     THE WITNESS:    I felt so concerned about
    25 the liability that I doubled what they were proposing as
    14
    1 far as liability insurance.       And we also set it up into
    2 entities to protect me from any liability, if anything
    3 ever happens on the plane or the passengers.
    4     Q.      Okay.     And the -- the two entities that you're
    5 referring to, I believe, are Cantu Enterprises and Cantu
    6 Consulting; is that correct?
    7     A.      Yes.    Yes, sir.
    8     Q.      Are there any other of your entities that are
    9 tasked with management or the business affairs of the
    10 aircraft?
    11     A.      No.
    12     Q.      Would it surprise you to learn that the
    13 Secretary of State documents indicate that the sole
    14 member of Cantu Consulting is Cantu Enterprises?
    15     A.      No.     Again, that goes, in my opinion, for
    16 compliance.       And that's maybe the recommendation from
    17 the consultants, but I -- I don't know.
    18     Q.      Okay.     Do you have any day-to-day operations
    19 with Cantu Consulting?
    20     A.      Not day-to-day.
    21     Q.      How would you characterize your involvement
    22 with Cantu Consulting?
    
    23 A. I
    want to make sure everything is done right,
    24 compliant, and legal.
    25     Q.      And do you do any of the accounting for Cantu
    19
    1 aircraft that's the subject of this lawsuit?
    2     A.   Convenience and flexibility for my companies to
    3 grow and to be able to do business quicker.
    4                  And then also I'm looking at other
    5 ventures in leasing.     So I think this one I've learned
    6 how the leasing process works and then through the --
    7 through the -- through the plane, through the airplane,
    8 I mentioned a while ago that I just bought a ranch and I
    9 want to do some leasing there also.
    10     Q.   You identified a few objectives in your
    11 purchase of the subject aircraft, one of which was
    12 convenience.   Can you --
    13     A.   The first one would -- convenience, yes.
    14     Q.   Okay.     Would -- would you characterize that as
    15 the -- the most important objective of your purchase for
    16 this -- of this aircraft?
    17     A.   No.     My most important would be how important
    18 it is for my business.      I mean, convenience for me.   I
    19 can take commercial, but sometimes we have to be in
    20 Austin the next morning or this afternoon or -- so
    21 that -- that -- and then in the last few years we've
    22 opened up branches of the bank in San Antonio.       And we
    23 want to go to Houston also.      So with that into
    24 consideration, everything involved, and my only thought
    25 was just to make sure we're protected from the liability
    20
    1 of an accident.
    2     Q.      And so correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds
    3 to me like you need to be able to use the aircraft on a
    4 moment's notice.
    5     A.      Yes, but that's never happened.    I usually like
    6 to leave -- give my pilots, you know, a week or more
    7 notice because they -- they live in Brownsville.
    8     Q.      Should the need arise, you would need to have
    9 ready access to the aircraft at a moment's notice; is
    10 that correct?
    11     A.      That's correct.    The -- the pilots are supposed
    12 to be on call; but in all the years we've had a plane,
    13 we've never had a situation like that.
    14     Q.      You referenced flexibility as one of the
    15 objectives of your purchase of this aircraft.       Can you
    16 provide a little bit more detail for the Court about
    17 what you mean by 'the flexibility of the aircraft'?
    18     A.      Well, flexibility on my time and the fact that
    19 the plane is available.       There's been times that I've
    20 had a meeting in Houston and I had to have -- be in
    21 Austin or San Antonio in the afternoon.       So there's
    22 no way I could have flied commercial and do all that.
    23     Q.      Okay.   And do you know when you fly in the
    24 aircraft who -- what business is operating that -- that
    25 aircraft?
    21
    1     A.   Definitely.
    2     Q.   Which business would that be?
    3     A.   Well, there's several businesses.     It would be
    4 Cantu Construction, the hospital, the bank, the Vipers,
    5 Lone Star Litho.    And, I don't know, I think that's it.
    6 There might be one or two others.
    7     Q.   Has there ever been an occasion where you
    8 needed to use the aircraft but someone in a related
    9 business was using it and you then were unable to use
    10 the aircraft?
    11     A.   No, because we really don't fly that much.
    12     Q.   And would you say that you, Alonzo Cantu, have
    13 priority over any other people in your organization that
    14 need to have access to the aircraft?
    
    15 A. I
    would say yes, but I don't -- I don't fly
    16 that much.   In fact, I -- I personally fly maybe less
    17 than 10 percent of the time for personal reasons,
    18 personal uses.     So my time is scheduled way ahead of
    19 time.
    20     Q.   Okay.     And so you do use the aircraft for
    21 personal uses; is that correct?
    22     A.   Yes.
    23     Q.   What sort of personal uses do you use the
    24 aircraft for?
    2
    5 A. I
    go to Houston.     I've gone to College Station
    30
    1     A.     Well, whatever entity uses the plane would be
    2 my -- I mean, that's normally how it's done because I
    3 get the bill.      When I use it, they send me a bill; I pay
    4 for it.
    5     Q.     Okay.    But as far as compliance with the terms
    6 in the contract, you're unfamiliar with that; is that --
    7 is that correct?
    8     A.     Compliance, you mean the amount or --
    9     Q.     Compliance as in in order to comply with the
    10 terms --
    11     A.     Oh.
    12     Q.     -- of any agreement.
    13     A.     That's Rene's responsibility."
    14                    MR. SIGEL:   Page 47, Line 5 through
    15 Line 11.
    16     Q.     "Okay.    Now, Mr. Bolson asked you some
    17 questions about your personal objectives with respect to
    18 these aircraft.      And you talked about convenience and
    19 wanting to have a plane available.       I guess as a
    20 follow-up, what was the objective of Cantu Enterprises,
    21 LLC in buying the aircraft?
    22     A.     Strictly business, leasing."
    23                    MR. SIGEL:   That concludes those excerpts.
    24                    THE COURT:   You may step down.
    25                    MR. CHRISTIAN:   Thank you, Your Honor.