in Re Alief Vietnamese Alliance Church and Phan Phung Hung ( 2019 )


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  • Opinion issued April 30, 2019
    In The
    Court of Appeals
    For The
    First District of Texas
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    NO. 01-18-00127-CV
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    IN RE ALIEF VIETNAMESE ALLIANCE CHURCH AND PHAN PHUNG
    HUNG, Relators
    Original Proceeding on Petition for Writ of Mandamus
    OPINION
    This mandamus proceeding involves a dispute between real party in interest
    Paul Nguyen, who filed a defamation suit against relators, the Alief Vietnamese
    Alliance Church and its senior pastor Phan Phung Hung (collectively, “the
    Church”).1 The Church filed a plea to the jurisdiction, arguing that the trial court
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    The underlying case is Paul Nguyen v. Alief Vietnamese Alliance Church and Phan
    Phung Hung, cause number 2016-53806, pending in the 189th District Court of
    Harris County, Texas, the Hon. William Burke presiding.
    should dismiss the suit under the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine. After the trial
    court denied the Church’s plea, the Church filed this petition for writ of mandamus.
    In one issue, the Church requests that we grant mandamus relief and order the trial
    court to vacate its denial of the plea to the jurisdiction and dismiss the suit because
    the trial court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction under the ecclesiastical abstention
    doctrine.
    We conditionally grant mandamus relief.
    Background
    In August 2016, Nguyen filed suit against the Alief Vietnamese Alliance
    Church—a member church of the Christian & Missionary Alliance (C&MA), a
    worldwide Protestant denomination—and its senior pastor Phan Phung Hung,
    asserting a claim of defamation. Nguyen alleged that he was instrumental in starting
    the Church in 1990 and that, in the years since the Church opened, he has served in
    various leadership roles, including as a deacon, as the church treasurer, and as an
    associate pastor. Nguyen alleged that he served as interim pastor during 2011 and
    2012, and then the district office of the Christian and Missionary Alliance
    Vietnamese District—the governing district of the C&MA denomination over the
    Church—recommended that Hung become the new senior pastor. Hung began
    serving in this capacity in November 2012.
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    Nguyen alleged that, at the end of 2014, as his term of serving as secretary of
    the Church’s board and as a deacon was coming to an end, he felt he needed to take
    a break from ministry, and he decided not to seek re-appointment to leadership
    positions.2
    In January 2015, Nguyen’s wife, Mai, approached Hung for marital
    counseling, allegedly telling Hung that she had seen Nguyen having lunch with two
    female church members and that she was concerned about Nguyen’s fidelity. Hung
    held a meeting at his home with Nguyen and Mai. Nguyen allegedly informed Hung
    and Mai that he had been asked by the other women to provide marital and spiritual
    guidance to them and that he was not romantically involved with either woman.
    Hung suggested that the three of them pray and that they not mention the incident
    again.
    Several months later, in August 2015, Hung and Nguyen began having
    conflicts concerning issues within the Church, including the proper form of address
    in Vietnamese for Hung’s wife and Hung’s decision to take a month-long trip to
    Vietnam without informing the Church leadership of his plans. Nguyen alleged that,
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    In his deposition, Nguyen testified that he asked Hung to “let [him] step down and
    take a break” because he had served as Church secretary for five years. At a meeting
    before the congregation in mid-January 2015, Nguyen told the congregation that he
    wished to take a break, and he asked the Church members not to vote for him to be
    in a leadership position. He stated that he did not step down from the secretary
    position as a form of self-discipline.
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    during a phone conversation with Hung, Hung stated that Nguyen and Mai had
    “criticized Pastor Hung’s way of pastoring to the members within the Church,” that
    they had “caused emotional hurts” and had offended Hung and other Church
    members, and that Hung “was tired of dealing with issues related to” Nguyen. In
    response, Nguyen “decided to take a break from attending the Church.”
    Nguyen alleged that, after several weeks of his not attending services at the
    Church, fellow parishioners began questioning Hung about Nguyen’s absence, and
    Hung reportedly told one of the Church officers that Nguyen had “committed
    adultery with a woman in the church and that is why [Nguyen] was no longer a
    Deacon and why [Nguyen] did not attend services.”
    Nguyen further alleged that, at a September 2015 meeting of Vietnamese
    pastors in Austin, Texas, Hung told the other pastors in attendance that Nguyen was
    no longer a member or elder of the Church but did not state a reason why. According
    to Nguyen, one of the pastors at the meeting contacted Nguyen and asked why he
    was no longer a member of the Church. He alleged that this surprised him because
    he thought he was still a member.
    Hung allegedly also informed the Church board on September 20, 2015, that
    Nguyen and Mai “were no longer members of the Church as Pastor Hung had
    terminated [Nguyen] as a member of the Church.” Nguyen alleged that Hung also
    informed all of the deacons of the Church that Nguyen had committed adultery with
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    a fellow Church member. Nguyen also alleged that he contacted members of the
    C&MA Vietnamese District leadership in an attempt to solve the matter, but the
    district leadership took no action. Nguyen alleged that he informed the deacon board
    in October 2015 that Hung had violated the law by slandering him and that he
    “wanted the Church to be at peace and for things to settle down.” Nguyen declined
    invitations from the Church leadership to meet with the deacons.
    Nguyen filed this suit for defamation against the Church and Hung in August
    2016. In his suit, Nguyen alleged that his reputation in the Church community, and
    in the larger Vietnamese Christian community, had been damaged by Hung’s
    statements. He alleged, “[M]ost of the members of the Church, along with other
    church leaders within the city of Houston and the denomination, have learned of this
    accusation, which is completely false.” Nguyen sought actual and exemplary
    damages from the Church and Hung.
    The Church filed a plea to the jurisdiction, arguing that the trial court lacked
    subject-matter jurisdiction over the dispute based on the ecclesiastical abstention
    doctrine. The Church argued that, even if Nguyen’s allegations were true, “the
    disputes identified are replete with issues of church discipline, ecclesiastical
    government, and the conformity of the members of the church to the standard of
    morals required of them,” matters that courts have repeatedly held should not be
    addressed in the secular courts. The Church argued that resolving Nguyen’s
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    defamation claim would “impinge upon the internal matters of [Church]
    governance,” especially because Nguyen was not just a member of the Church, but
    had been an associate pastor and a former deacon.
    As evidence, the Church attached to its plea to the jurisdiction the bylaws of
    the C&MA Vietnamese District, as well as the C&MA Manuel, which included,
    among other topics, procedures for resolving disciplinary matters within the Church.
    Specifically, the Manual for the C&MA contained a “Uniform Policy on Discipline,
    Restoration, and Appeal,” which applies to all elected personnel of C&MA entities
    and all members of C&MA churches. The discipline policy states:
    In Matthew 18:15-20 Jesus outlines the steps which should be taken to
    resolve conflict and exercise redemptive and restorative discipline in
    the church. The process begins with private conversation. However, if
    private conversation fails to lead a person to repentance, Jesus
    commands that we ask other believers to become involved in these
    conversations. If he will not listen, Jesus said, take one or two others
    along (Matthew 18:16). When personal conversations fail to resolve the
    matter, Jesus instructs us to “tell it to the church.” This signals a move
    to more specifically defined disciplinary procedures outlined in this
    document.
    The C&MA encourages the mediation of personal conflicts whenever
    such measures are both possible and appropriate. Within the polity of
    the C&MA, we have purposed to fill Jesus’ instructions to exercise
    church discipline by providing an orderly procedure by which the
    appropriate ecclesiastical authority may be informed and respond.
    These disciplinary policies and procedures are implemented only after
    other appropriate steps have proven ineffective. They also recognize
    that some sins are of a public nature and cannot be addressed with
    personal conversation alone.
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    If an offense is not likely to cause imminent harm to others or to the
    testimony of Christ, and if the offense is not of such a nature that it
    would ordinarily disqualify a person from positions of leadership in the
    Church, the proper ecclesiastical authority may choose to confront an
    individual entrapped by sin privately to establish the facts and
    encourage repentance of any sin discovered. If the individual
    acknowledges his/her sin and repents, the matter may end there, unless
    a confession to additional people and public or private restitution is
    needed. In such cases, and when individuals have confessed of their
    own accord, the proper ecclesiastical authorities may, after an informed
    investigation, determine the extent and nature of disciplinary actions
    which may be imposed without a formal disciplinary hearing.
    If an individual is unwilling to acknowledge or repent of sin, or if an
    offense is likely to harm others or lead them into sin, cause division or
    disruption within the church, or compromise the public testimony of
    Christ and the C&MA, the proper Church authority shall initiate formal
    disciplinary procedures as determined by this Policy.
    (Emphasis in original.)
    The discipline policy sets out formal procedures to be followed in
    investigating complaints of misconduct. The policy also lists several examples of
    conduct that can give rise to a disciplinary proceeding, including “[m]oral failure
    involving sexual misconduct,” “[s]preading false rumors about another,” and
    “[c]ausing dissension or division within the church.” The policy states that
    “[d]isciplinary proceedings will be conducted with confidentiality in all aspects of
    the proceedings; however, there is no guarantee of confidentiality within disciplinary
    proceedings for any participant” and provides that, in some cases, disclosure of the
    particular facts might be necessary “in connection with investigating and remedying
    the charge and considering and carrying out possible restoration.”
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    After a visiting judge denied the Church’s plea to the jurisdiction, the Church
    filed a second plea. In addition to the arguments raised in its initial plea to the
    jurisdiction, the Church also attached Nguyen’s deposition as evidence. In his
    deposition, Nguyen testified that his decision to step away from his leadership
    positions within the Church in early 2015 was unrelated to Mai’s accusation that he
    had been involved in an adulterous relationship. He testified that, during the January
    2015 meeting with Mai and Hung, he repeatedly denied committing adultery, and he
    stated that he continued to be involved with the Church for several months after that,
    albeit not in a formal leadership position. Nguyen also testified that, after he learned
    that Hung had allegedly told Church deacons that Nguyen had committed adultery,
    he wrote to the district offices seeking their assistance in resolving the matter.
    Nguyen stated that he brought the underlying lawsuit because the district office
    failed to act. Nguyen also testified that he sued the Church, in addition to Hung,
    because members of the deacon board informed members of the Church and at least
    one former member of the Church that Nguyen had committed adultery.
    In response to the Church’s second plea to the jurisdiction, Nguyen argued
    that this case involved Hung’s lying about Nguyen’s behavior and did not involve
    matters of church discipline, ecclesiastical government, or conformity of church
    members to required standards of morals. He argued that the ecclesiastical abstention
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    doctrine “does not prohibit courts from determining a case of defamation where the
    defendant, who happened to be a pastor, lied to the public about a parishioner.”
    Hung testified that, from January 2015 through August 2015, he did not
    inform anyone at the Church about Nguyen’s alleged adultery. Hung also testified
    that he told the adultery allegations to one of the Church board members and his wife
    “in order to explain to them the reason why [Hung] did not allow [Nguyen] to work
    in the church.” Hung also testified that Nguyen had contacted the Church board
    members and called Hung dictatorial and had asserted that Hung could not carry out
    the position of pastor. Hung further testified that, between January and July 2015,
    the Church did not discipline Nguyen for the alleged adultery, but Nguyen
    “voluntarily accepted the discipline” by removing himself from the Church board
    and withdrawing from other leadership roles.
    Nguyen also cited excerpts from Hung’s deposition and argued that those
    excerpts were evidence that the conflict that arose between the two men in August
    2015 was unrelated to Mai’s earlier accusation of adultery, and that it was only after
    this unrelated conflict had occurred that Hung defamed Nguyen to Church members.
    Hung stated in his deposition that he and Nguyen had a conflict in August 2015
    because Nguyen had told Church members that Hung had asked everyone to refer to
    his wife by a specific title in Vietnamese, and Hung told Nguyen that when Nguyen
    “says something untrue like that, it causes a confusion in the church.” It was only
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    after the conflicts over issues within the Church arose in August 2015 and Nguyen
    quit attending services that other Vietnamese pastors and the Church deacons
    became involved in questioning what had happened and that Nguyen contacted the
    C&MA Vietnamese District leadership in an attempt to solve the matter. However,
    Nguyen declined invitations to meet with the Church’s leadership and subsequently
    brought this suit.
    The trial court denied the Church’s second plea to the jurisdiction, and this
    mandamus proceeding followed.
    Ecclesiastical Abstention Doctrine
    In its sole issue, the Church contends that the trial court clearly abused its
    discretion when the court denied its plea to the jurisdiction because the ecclesiastical
    abstention doctrine applies and deprives the court of subject-matter jurisdiction.
    A.    Mandamus Standard of Review
    Generally, to be entitled to mandamus relief, the relator must demonstrate that
    the trial court abused its discretion and that it has no adequate remedy by appeal. See
    In re J.B. Hunt Transp., Inc., 
    492 S.W.3d 287
    , 299 (Tex. 2016) (orig. proceeding);
    Walker v. Packer, 
    827 S.W.2d 833
    , 839 (Tex. 1992) (orig. proceeding). A trial court
    abuses its discretion if it acts arbitrarily, unreasonably, or without regard to guiding
    legal principles. In re J.B. Hunt 
    Transp., 492 S.W.3d at 293
    –94 (quoting Bocquet v.
    Herring, 
    972 S.W.2d 19
    , 21 (Tex. 1998)). A trial court has no discretion in
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    determining what the law is or in applying the law to the facts. 
    Id. at 294
    (citing
    
    Walker, 827 S.W.2d at 840
    ). Thus, the trial court’s failure to analyze or apply the
    law correctly constitutes an abuse of discretion. In re Nationwide Ins. Co. of Am.,
    
    494 S.W.3d 708
    , 712 (Tex. 2016) (orig. proceeding).
    A plea questioning the trial court’s subject-matter jurisdiction over a dispute
    raises a question of law that we review de novo. Westbrook v. Penley, 
    231 S.W.3d 389
    , 394 (Tex. 2007) (citing Tex. Dep’t of Parks & Wildlife v. Miranda, 
    133 S.W.3d 217
    , 226 (Tex. 2004)). A party may raise lack of subject-matter jurisdiction via a
    plea to the jurisdiction “when religious-liberty grounds form the basis for the
    jurisdictional challenge.” 
    Id. We first
    look to the plaintiff’s pleadings to determine
    whether the facts pleaded affirmatively demonstrate that subject-matter jurisdiction
    exists. 
    Id. at 394–95.
    If the pleadings are insufficient to establish jurisdiction but do
    not affirmatively demonstrate an incurable jurisdictional defect, the plaintiff should
    be afforded the opportunity to replead. 
    Id. at 395.
    A plea to the jurisdiction should
    not be granted if a fact issue exists regarding the court’s jurisdiction, but if the
    pleadings affirmatively demonstrate an incurable jurisdictional defect, the plea to
    the jurisdiction must be granted. Id.; see 
    Miranda, 133 S.W.3d at 227
    –28.
    A trial court has no discretion and must dismiss the case as a ministerial act
    when it lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over the dispute. In re St. Thomas High
    Sch., 
    495 S.W.3d 500
    , 506 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2016, orig.
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    proceeding). Mandamus relief is an appropriate remedy when the trial court acts
    without subject-matter jurisdiction. Id.; see In re Crawford & Co., 
    458 S.W.3d 920
    ,
    929 (Tex. 2015) (per curiam) (granting mandamus relief and stating that because
    trial court lacked jurisdiction over case, court should have dismissed case). If a trial
    court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over the underlying proceedings, the relator
    need not establish that it lacks an adequate remedy by appeal. In re St. Thomas High
    
    Sch., 495 S.W.3d at 514
    (stating also that appeal is often inadequate to protect
    important First Amendment rights relating to free exercise of religion); In re
    Godwin, 
    293 S.W.3d 742
    , 747 (Tex. App.—San Antonio 2009, orig. proceeding
    [mand. denied]) (stating that, generally, trial court’s ruling on plea to jurisdiction is
    not subject to mandamus relief because adequate remedy by appeal often exists, but
    “appeal is often inadequate to protect the rights of religious organizations when there
    are important issues relating to the constitutional protections afforded by the First
    Amendment”).
    B.    Governing Law
    The First Amendment to the United States Constitution, applicable to the
    states through the Fourteenth Amendment, provides in part that “Congress shall
    make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise
    thereof.” 
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 395
    (quoting U.S. CONST. amend. I); Patton v.
    Jones, 
    212 S.W.3d 541
    , 546–47 (Tex. App.—Austin 2006, pet. denied).
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    Governmental action may burden the free exercise of religion by interfering with an
    individual’s observance or practice of a particular faith or by encroaching on a
    church’s ability to manage its internal affairs. 
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 395
    . The
    Constitution requires that government and religion remain separate and “forbids the
    government from interfering with the right of hierarchical religious bodies to
    establish their own internal rules and regulations and create tribunals for
    adjudicating disputes over religious matters.” Tran v. Fiorenza, 
    934 S.W.2d 740
    ,
    743 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 1996, no writ).
    “Churches have a fundamental right ‘to decide for themselves, free from state
    interference, matters of church government as well as those of faith and doctrine.’”
    
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 397
    (quoting Kedroff v. St. Nicholas Cathedral of Russian
    Orthodox Church in N. Am., 
    344 U.S. 94
    , 116 (1952)). “It is a core tenet of First
    Amendment jurisprudence that, in resolving civil claims, courts must be careful not
    to intrude upon internal matters of church governance.” 
    Id. The Free
    Exercise Clause
    of the First Amendment thus “precludes civil courts from delving into matters
    focused on ‘theological controversy, church discipline, ecclesiastical government,
    or the conformity of the members of a church to the standard of morals required of
    them.’” Thiagarajan v. Tadepalli, 
    430 S.W.3d 589
    , 594 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th
    Dist.] 2014, pet. denied) (quoting Serbian E. Orthodox Diocese v. Milivojevich, 
    426 U.S. 696
    , 713–14 (1976)). “Although wrongs may exist in the ecclesiastical setting,
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    and although the administration of the church may be inadequate to provide a
    remedy, the preservation of the free exercise of religion is deemed so important a
    principle it overshadows the inequities that may result from its liberal application.”
    Williams v. Gleason, 
    26 S.W.3d 54
    , 59 (Tex. App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2000, pet.
    denied); 
    Tran, 934 S.W.2d at 743
    .
    However, the First Amendment does not necessarily bar all claims that may
    touch upon religious conduct. 
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 396
    ; In re 
    Godwin, 293 S.W.3d at 749
    (“[T]here are indeed limits to what can be said by church officials
    from the pulpit.”). Churches, congregations, and church hierarchy “exist and
    function within the civil community,” and therefore they are “amenable to rules
    governing property rights, torts, and criminal conduct.” 
    Williams, 26 S.W.3d at 59
    .
    “Courts do not have jurisdiction to decide questions of an ecclesiastical or inherently
    religious nature, so as to those questions they must defer to decisions of appropriate
    ecclesiastical decision makers.” Masterson v. Diocese of Nw. Tex., 
    422 S.W.3d 594
    ,
    605–06 (Tex. 2013). But the Texas courts are “bound to exercise jurisdiction vested
    in them by the Texas Constitution and cannot delegate their judicial prerogative
    where jurisdiction exists.” 
    Id. at 606.
    Thus, the Texas courts decide non-
    ecclesiastical issues based on the same neutral principles of law applicable to other
    entities while deferring to religious entities’ decisions on ecclesiastical and church
    polity questions. 
    Id. at 596.
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    The determination of whether a suit is ecclesiastical in nature is made by
    examining the substance and effect of the plaintiff’s petition. 
    Williams, 26 S.W.3d at 59
    ; 
    Tran, 934 S.W.2d at 743
    (“The difficulty comes in determining whether a
    particular dispute is ‘ecclesiastical’ or simply a civil law controversy in which
    church officials happen to be involved.”).
    Here, Nguyen has pled the tort of defamation in the underlying case.
    Actionable defamation requires proof of (1) publication of a false statement of fact
    to a third party, (2) that was defamatory concerning the plaintiff, (3) with the
    requisite degree of fault, and (4) that proximately caused damages. Anderson v.
    Durant, 
    550 S.W.3d 605
    , 617–18 (Tex. 2018). “Under Texas law, a statement is
    defamatory if it tends to injure a person’s reputation and thereby expose the person
    to public hatred, contempt, ridicule, or financial injury or to impeach any person’s
    honesty, integrity, virtue, or reputation.” Tex. Disposal Sys. Landfill, Inc. v. Waste
    Mgmt. Holdings, Inc., 
    219 S.W.3d 563
    , 580 (Tex. App.—Austin 2007, pet. denied);
    see also Better Bus. Bureau of Metro. Houston, Inc. v. John Moore Servs., Inc., 
    441 S.W.3d 345
    , 356 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2013, pet. denied) (“To qualify as
    defamatory, a statement should be derogatory, degrading, somewhat shocking, and
    contain elements of disgrace. But a communication that is merely unflattering,
    abusive, annoying, irksome, or embarrassing, or that only hurts the plaintiff’s
    feelings, is not actionable.”).
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    C.    Analysis
    Nguyen’s defamation suit arises out of Hung’s alleged statements to Church
    officers and deacons, made after Nguyen had both stepped down from leadership
    roles and stopped attending the Church, that Nguyen had committed adultery.
    Nguyen alleged that his decision not to seek further leadership roles was unrelated
    to his wife’s concern that he had committed adultery, and he alleged that he informed
    his wife and Hung in a January 2015 meeting that he had not been involved in an
    extramarital affair. He continued attending the Church without incident until August
    2015, when he alleged that he had an argument with Hung about unrelated matters,
    including the proper form of address in Vietnamese for Hung’s wife and perceived
    criticisms of Hung’s pastoral decisions. Nguyen alleged that, as a result of this
    argument, he did not feel welcome at the Church, and he stopped attending services.
    Nguyen alleged that, several weeks later, in September 2015, one of the
    Church elders questioned Hung about Nguyen’s absence, and Hung responded that
    Nguyen was no longer a deacon and no longer attended services because he had
    committed adultery with a fellow parishioner. According to Nguyen, this statement
    by Hung was false. Nguyen alleged that Hung then informed other Vietnamese
    pastors at a meeting that Nguyen was no longer a member or elder of the Church,
    although he did not state a reason why, and Hung later informed the Church’s deacon
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    board that Nguyen had committed adultery and he had terminated Nguyen’s
    membership in the Church.
    Nguyen contacted the C&MA Vietnamese District leadership to resolve the
    matter but declined the Church leadership’s invitation to meet with it. Months later,
    Nguyen brought this suit for defamation against the Church and Hung. Nguyen
    alleged that, because of Hung’s statements, his reputation had been damaged in the
    Church and in the greater Vietnamese Christian community, which is extremely
    close-knit.
    In response to the Church’s petition for writ of mandamus seeking to vacate
    the trial court’s order denying its plea to the jurisdiction, Nguyen argues that this
    dispute does not fall within the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine because Hung’s
    statements were not made as a matter of church discipline or church governance, nor
    were they made for the purposes of conforming the congregation to the standard of
    morals required of them by the Church. He argues that, instead, Hung’s statements
    were “motivated by personal malice” towards Nguyen arising out of their August
    2015 argument. Nguyen argues that, as a result, Hung’s statements are not entitled
    to First Amendment protection under the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine and, thus,
    the trial court properly denied the Church’s plea to the jurisdiction. Nguyen
    alternatively argues that mandamus relief is improper because there is a factual
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    dispute concerning whether Hung’s actions and statements were a matter of church
    discipline or whether they were made due to Hung’s malice towards Nguyen.
    1.    Applicable Law
    The United States Supreme Court has held that the Free Exercise Clause of
    the First Amendment forbids civil courts from exercising jurisdiction over “a matter
    which concerns theological controversy, church discipline, ecclesiastical
    government, or the conformity of the members of the church to the standard of
    morals required of them.” 
    Milivojevich, 426 U.S. at 713
    –14; see also 
    Thiagarajan, 430 S.W.3d at 594
    .
    Several Texas courts, including the Texas Supreme Court, have addressed the
    application of the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine to a plaintiff’s tort claims,
    including claims for defamation. In Westbrook v. Penley, Penley, a former
    parishioner, brought several tort claims against Westbrook, the pastor of her former
    church, including claims for defamation and professional negligence. Penley
    allegedly informed Westbrook in a marital counseling session that she had had an
    extramarital affair and Westbrook then informed the church elders of this and
    published a letter to the congregation concerning Penley’s actions and the
    appropriate discipline of “encourage[ing] the congregation to ‘break fellowship’
    with Penley in order to obtain her repentance and restoration to the church 
    body.” 231 S.W.3d at 393
    –94. Upon Westbrook’s plea to the jurisdiction, the trial court
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    dismissed the case on the basis of the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine. 
    Id. at 394.
    The Fort Worth Court of Appeals affirmed the dismissal of all of Penley’s claims
    except for the professional negligence claim, “which it held concerned Westbrook’s
    role as Penley’s secular professional counselor and did not invoke First Amendment
    concerns.” 
    Id. The Texas
    Supreme Court then granted review to determine whether
    the trial court had jurisdiction over the professional negligence claim. 
    Id. Penley did
    not contest the dismissal of her defamation claim in the supreme court.
    Penley argued to the supreme court that her professional negligence claim did
    not implicate the First Amendment because the courts could resolve the claim using
    “neutral tort principles without resorting to or infringing upon religious doctrine,”
    as it had permitted for the resolution of disputes over property. 
    Id. at 399;
    see
    
    Milivojevich, 426 U.S. at 710
    (stating that First Amendment requires courts to
    determine church property disputes, in that these may be decided “without resolving
    underlying controversies over religious doctrine”). The supreme court disagreed that
    free exercise concerns would not be implicated even if it were to expand the neutral-
    principles doctrine. 
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 399
    The court stated:
    A church’s decision to discipline members for conduct considered
    outside of the church’s moral code is an inherently religious function
    with which civil courts should not generally interfere. Courts have no
    jurisdiction to “revise or question ordinary acts of church discipline”
    and “cannot decide who ought to be members of the church, nor
    whether the excommunicated have been justly or unjustly, regularly or
    irregularly cut off from the body of the church.” This is because “the
    judicial eye cannot penetrate the veil of the church for the forbidden
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    purpose of vindicating the alleged wrongs of excised members; when
    they become members they did so upon the condition of continuing or
    not as they and their churches might determine, and they thereby submit
    to the ecclesiastical power and cannot now invoke the supervisory
    power of the civil tribunals.”
    
    Id. at 399–400
    (quoting Watson v. Jones, 80 U.S. (13 Wall.) 679, 730, 731 (1871)).
    The court recognized that Penley “pin[ned] Westbrook’s liability in this case,
    at least in part, on his breach of a secular duty by disclosing Penley’s confidential
    information to the church elders in the first instance,” but it then noted that “this
    disclosure cannot be isolated from the church-disciplinary process in which it
    occurred, nor can Westbrook’s free-exercise challenge be answered without
    examining what effect the imposition of damages would have on the inherently
    religious function of church discipline.” 
    Id. The court
    held that subjecting
    Westbrook to tort liability for instituting and participating in the church’s required
    disciplinary process would have a “chilling effect” on a church’s ability to discipline
    its members and would “deprive churches of their right to construe and administer
    church laws.” 
    Id. The court
    thus concluded that, although Penley’s claim for
    professional negligence “can be defined by neutral principles without regard to
    religion, the application of those principles to impose civil tort liability” would
    interfere with the church’s ability to manage its internal affairs and utilize its
    disciplinary process. 
    Id. (emphasis in
    original).
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    The same reasoning applied by the supreme court in Westbrook to dismiss
    Penley’s professional negligence claim has been applied by our sister courts under
    circumstances similar to those in this case to hold that a trial court lacked jurisdiction
    over a plaintiff’s defamation claim.
    In Jennison v. Prasifka, the Dallas Court of Appeals held that the trial court
    properly dismissed the tort claims, including a defamation claim, brought by the
    plaintiff—an Episcopal priest who also served as a stockbroker and who was
    released from his role as a priest after a parishioner complained to the local diocese
    about his actions taken with her brokerage account—because the “only defamatory
    statements allegedly made by [the parishioner-defendant] were made to the church
    itself in connection with the church’s disciplinary process,” and the priest’s claims
    were “inextricably intertwined with the church’s investigation of his performance as
    a priest and the discipline imposed by the church for inadequate performance” and
    therefore “relate[d] to internal matters of church governance and discipline.” See 
    391 S.W.3d 660
    , 667–68 (Tex. App.—Dallas 2013, no pet.).
    In In re Godwin, the San Antonio Court of Appeals held that the defamation
    claim of the plaintiff—a former parishioner who sued the pastor and the church after
    the pastor made a speech before the congregation “marking” the plaintiff for causing
    division in the church after the plaintiff allegedly offered financial incentives to
    church employees to speak out about financial improprieties committed by church
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    officials—related to the church’s decision to discipline the plaintiff “for conduct it
    deemed contrary to both their Christian values and their interpretation of the Bible,”
    which was “an inherently religious function with which civil courts should not
    
    interfere.” 293 S.W.3d at 748
    ; see also 
    Williams, 26 S.W.3d at 56
    , 59–60 (pre-
    Westbrook case in which Fourteenth Court of Appeals determined that plaintiff’s
    defamation suit against church elders based on church’s warning to plaintiff—who
    served as Sunday School teacher—that he stop teaching Biblical interpretations that
    differed from those of Presbyterian Church was barred under ecclesiastical
    abstention doctrine because plaintiff’s suit would require court “to review the
    ecclesiastical judicial process and to determine the efficacy of the parties’ religious
    beliefs and practices”).
    Likewise, in a memorandum opinion in Becker v. Clardy, the Austin Court of
    Appeals addressed whether a defamation claim brought by one teacher at a Catholic
    school against another teacher should be barred under the ecclesiastical abstention
    doctrine. See No. 03-10-00376-CV, 
    2011 WL 6756999
    , at *1 (Tex. App.—Austin
    Dec. 22, 2011, pet. denied) (mem. op.). Becker, the plaintiff, alleged that the
    defendant, Clardy, had made several allegedly defamatory statements about him to
    her students, and that the principal of the school and the pastor of its affiliated church
    conducted an investigation into the statements, which ultimately stopped, without
    imposing discipline on Clardy, when Clardy resigned. 
    Id. 22 In
    analyzing whether the trial court properly dismissed the claim under the
    ecclesiastical abstention doctrine, the Austin Court first noted that “the alleged
    statements and damage to reputation contained in Becker’s pleadings were
    ‘confined’ to the church community.” 
    Id. at *3.
    The court also noted that the
    evidence presented in connection with Clardy’s plea to the jurisdiction “showed that
    the substance of Becker’s claims was that Clardy had violated the [local diocese’s]
    Policy’s code of ethics and moral standards of the Catholic faith and Canon Law.”
    
    Id. at *4.
    The court concluded that deciding whether to impose tort liability on
    Clardy “for harm to Becker’s reputation within the community then necessarily
    would require an analysis of internal church matters and doctrine.” 
    Id. Specifically, the
    truth or falsity of Clardy’s alleged statements and the alleged injury to Becker’s
    reputation within the church “would require an analysis of the church’s moral
    standards and church doctrine.” 
    Id. The court
    stated, “Because Becker’s alleged
    harm is limited to the harm to his reputation within the church community, it is
    measured against the backdrop of the church’s religious morals and principles.” 
    Id. Accordingly, it
    affirmed the dismissal of Becker’s claim. 
    Id. at *6.
    This is the
    standard we apply in this case.
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    2.     Application of the Law
    The same reasoning held to require dismissal of the plaintiff’s case under the
    ecclesiastical abstention doctrine in Westbrook, Jennison, In re Godwin, Becker, and
    Williams requires dismissal of Nguyen’s defamation suit in this case.
    We disagree with Nguyen’s contention that Hung’s statements are unrelated
    to matters of church governance and discipline and do not involve the conformity of
    the members of a church to the standard of morals required of them. See 
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 399
    –400. Hung’s statements cannot be considered in isolation but
    must instead be viewed in the context in which they occurred. See 
    id. As in
    Westbrook, the Manual for the C&MA contained a “Uniform Policy on Discipline,
    Restoration, and Appeal,” which applies to all elected personnel of C&MA entities
    and all members of C&MA churches. Referencing biblical text as authority, the
    policy specifically outlines “the steps which should be taken to resolve conflict and
    exercise redemptive and restorative discipline in the church.”
    The record reflects that Hung’s statements were made to Church officials
    charged with church governance as an integral part of a struggle over church
    governance involving Hung and Nguyen. The struggle arose out of differences of
    opinion as to how the Church should be governed and charges brought to Hung’s
    attention by Nguyen’s wife regarding her husband’s alleged violation of moral
    standards by engaging in an adulterous affair with a church member, a charge which
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    Nguyen denied even as he left the Church and refused an offer by the Church
    deacons to meet with them to resolve the dispute.
    Specifically, Nguyen’s suit for defamation against Hung was brought after:
    •     Nguyen—a founding member of the Church who had served in
    various leadership roles, including as interim pastor—was
    replaced by Hung as the new senior pastor;
    •     Nguyen, two years later, decided to “take a break” from the
    ministry and not to seek re-appointment to leadership positions;
    •     Nguyen’s wife, Mai, subsequently approached Hung for marital
    counseling in January 2015, telling him she had seen Nguyen
    having lunch with two female church members and was
    concerned about his fidelity;
    •     Hung met with Nguyen and Mai, and Nguyen defended himself
    by stating that he had been asked by the other women to provide
    marital and spiritual guidance to them and was not romantically
    involved with them;
    •     All three prayed over the incident, and Hung suggested it should
    not be mentioned again;
    •     Hung and Nguyen began having conflicts concerning other
    issues within the Church in August 2015, including Hung’s
    decision to take a month-long trip to Vietnam without informing
    the Church leadership;
    •     Hung told Nguyen in a phone call that Nguyen’s and Mai’s
    criticism of Hung’s way of pastoring to Church members had
    caused emotional hurt and offended Hung and other Church
    members;
    •     Nguyen subsequently “decided to take a break from attending the
    Church”;
    •     Hung responded to a Church officer’s question several weeks
    later as to why Nguyen no longer attend services at the Church
    by saying that it was because Nguyen had committed adultery
    with a woman in the church;
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    •      Hung told Vietnamese pastors at a pastors’ meeting in Austin in
    September 2015 that Nguyen was no longer a member of the
    Church without stating why when Nguyen believed he was still
    a member of the Church;
    •      Hung allegedly informed all of the deacons of the Church that
    Nguyen had committed adultery with fellow Church members;
    •      Nguyen contacted members of the C&MA Vietnamese District
    leadership in an attempt to solve the matter, but the district took
    no action; and
    •      Nguyen declined invitations from the Church’s leadership to
    meet and discuss the problems and informed the deacon board
    that Hung had violated the law by slandering him and that he
    “wanted the Church to be at peace and for things to settle down.”
    Nguyen chose not to allow the deacons of the Church to resolve the issue and instead
    sued Hung for damages for defamation.
    Under these circumstances, all of the witnesses in this case would be Church
    members or officers responding to allegations relating to the proper governance of
    the Church, the standard of morals expected of Church leadership, the basis for
    Nguyen’s wife’s allegations to Hung that her husband had committed adultery, and
    the truth of Hung’s explanation for why Nguyen left the Church. This is precisely
    the type of situation covered by the disciplinary policy set out in the C&MA Manual.
    Ignoring the Manual, this suit would leave it to the state district court to decide
    whether Nguyen left the Church voluntarily, as he states, or was asked to resign his
    leadership positions and to leave as a matter of church discipline to resolve conflicts
    within the Church, conflicts that Nguyen refused to have resolved by the church
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    elders and deacons. And it would require the district court to inquire into whether
    Hung was properly following Church disciplinary procedure when he made the
    statements concerning Nguyen to the Church deacons.
    It is hard to see by what criterion the matters Nguyen would have the state
    courts resolve are not consigned by the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine to
    ecclesiastical bodies rather than to the secular courts. See 
    Milivojevich, 426 U.S. at 718
    –20 (upholding exclusive church jurisdiction over defrocking of bishop and
    finding state court’s “detailed review” of evidence impermissible under First and
    Fourteenth Amendments and compounded by state court’s errors in evaluating
    evidence, delving into church constitutional provisions, and sanctioning
    circumvention of tribunals set up to resolve internal church disputes); 
    Westbrook, 231 S.W.3d at 399
    –400 (holding that free exercise concerns required dismissal of
    suit for professional negligence that had given rise to disciplinary process covered
    by church policy); Mouton v. Christian Faith Missionary Baptist Church, 
    498 S.W.3d 143
    , 150–51 (Tex. App.—Houston [1st Dist.] 2016, no pet.) (holding that
    claims were “inextricably intertwined” with selection of church’s new pastor and
    church’s expulsion of members, two “inherently ecclesiastical” issues, and thus
    granting plea to jurisdiction was proper); 
    Jennison, 391 S.W.3d at 667
    –68 (holding
    that allegedly defamatory statements were made “to the church itself in connection
    with the church’s disciplinary process” relating to performance of priest); In re
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    Godwin, 293 S.W.3d at 748
    –49 (holding that defamation claim was barred under
    ecclesiastical abstention doctrine because claim related to church’s decision to
    discipline former member for conduct contrary to values and Biblical interpretation).
    We conclude that Hung’s allegedly defamatory statements are likewise
    “inextricably intertwined” with matters relating to an internal struggle between a
    current and former leader of the Church over Church governance, the standard of
    morals required of leaders of the Church, and the reason for Nguyen’s leaving or
    being expelled from the Church.
    Nor do we agree with Nguyen and with the dissent that there is a factual
    dispute over whether Hung’s actions and statements were a matter of church
    discipline or whether they were due to Hung’s malice, taking them out of the
    category of a legal determination and requiring trial. Even if there is a dispute over
    Hung’s motivation in making the statements—either as part of a disciplinary
    procedure due to the alleged adultery or merely out of vindictiveness towards
    Nguyen, who had criticized Hung’s pastoring decisions—these statements were
    made in the context of expelling a member and former leader of the Church, or,
    alternatively, the Church member’s voluntarily quitting his leadership positions and
    quitting the Church—and then refusing to meet with Church leadership to resolve
    the dispute—either version of which is inherently an ecclesiastical concern as a
    matter of law. See 
    Mouton, 498 S.W.3d at 151
    (“[D]iscipline of church members,
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    including expulsion, is an ‘inherently religious function with which civil courts
    should not generally interfere.’”).
    Furthermore, although Nguyen contends that his reputation in the Church and
    in the Vietnamese Christian community was damaged by Hung’s statements, there
    is no allegation that Hung’s statements were made outside the context of explaining
    Nguyen’s absence from the Church in response to a question from a Church elder
    and in Hung’s explanation to the Church’s deacon board on why Nguyen was no
    longer a member or elder of the Church. Nguyen’s complaint that his reputation was
    harmed is clearly a harm alleged to have occurred within the Church community.
    See Becker, 
    2011 WL 6756999
    , at *4 (“Because Becker’s alleged harm is limited to
    the harm to his reputation within the church community, it is measured against the
    backdrop of the church’s religious morals and principles.”). Nor is it evident what
    damages Nguyen might have suffered other than with respect to his affiliation with
    the Church.
    Additionally, to the extent that Nguyen complains that, by waiting eight
    months after learning of the adultery allegations before making any statements to the
    Church elders and deacons, Hung failed to comply with the Church’s prescribed
    procedures for handling the discipline of members, the question of whether the
    Church properly followed its disciplinary procedures is not a matter than can be
    adjudicated by the secular courts. See 
    Milivojevich, 426 U.S. at 718
    –19 (holding that
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    state court erred by addressing defrocked bishop’s claims that church’s actions
    contravened church procedures and by addressing bishop’s failure to participate in
    disciplinary proceedings); Singh v. Sandhar, 
    495 S.W.3d 482
    , 490, 492 (Tex.
    App.—Houston [14th Dist.] 2016, no pet.) (noting that civil courts cannot entertain
    claims that ecclesiastical procedures were arbitrary and that temple’s alleged failure
    to follow its bylaws “on a matter of internal governance involves ecclesiastical
    concerns”); 
    Williams, 26 S.W.3d at 59
    (stating that civil courts are prohibited “from
    inquiring into any phase of ecclesiastical decision making—its merits as well as
    procedure”).
    Finally, Nguyen cites In re Godwin for the proposition there are limits to what
    religious leaders can say without running afoul of defamation laws and that “an
    accusation of inappropriate sexual behavior would likely not be protected.” While
    Nguyen is correct that the San Antonio Court of Appeals stated in In re Godwin that
    “there are indeed limits to what can be said by church officials from the pulpit,” to
    the extent Nguyen argues that statements concerning inappropriate sexual behavior
    can never be protected under the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine, Nguyen both
    ignores the controlling law recited above and reads In re Godwin too broadly. 
    See 293 S.W.3d at 749
    . In re Godwin concerned a disgruntled former church member
    who made repeated comments and accusations that the church’s leadership was
    engaged in financial misconduct, and the member’s conduct included making offers
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    of financial assistance to church employees who spoke out against the church and
    then lost their positions as a result. 
    Id. at 745–46.
    The church’s senior pastor, on
    advice from the board of elders, read a statement to the congregation describing the
    church member’s behavior, accusing the member of bribery, and “marking” the
    member as one causing division within the church. 
    Id. at 746.
    At oral argument
    before the San Antonio Court of Appeals, the church’s counsel took the position that
    the church officials would be protected under the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine
    “even if they had stated [the member] were a child molester.” 
    Id. at 749.
    The San
    Antonio Court then stated that, under the facts of the particular case, “an accusation
    of inappropriate sexual behavior would likely not be protected.” 
    Id. We do
    not read the court’s opinion in In re Godwin as making a blanket
    statement that allegations of “inappropriate sexual behavior” made by church
    officials can never be protected under the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine. Instead,
    we read the opinion as stating that, under the facts of that case, which involved
    allegations of financial impropriety, allegations that the member engaged in
    inappropriate sexual behavior would likely be beyond the scope of the doctrine’s
    protection. See also 
    Patton, 212 S.W.3d at 554
    –55 & n.13 (noting, in defamation
    case arising out of decision to terminate employment of youth minister, that absent
    “unusual or egregious circumstances” surrounding statements, defamation cases
    generally fall within ecclesiastical abstention doctrine).
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    Nguyen also argues that this case is analogous to the Fifth Circuit’s decision
    in Sanders v. Casa View Baptist Church, in which the court held that the First
    Amendment “does not categorically insulate religious relationships from judicial
    scrutiny, for to do so would necessarily extend constitutional protection to the
    secular components of these relationships.” 
    134 F.3d 331
    , 335–36 (5th Cir. 1998).
    Sanders involved a pastor who conducted marital counseling sessions with some of
    his parishioners. 
    Id. at 334.
    Although the pastor did provide marital counseling to
    the two plaintiffs, one of whom was an administrative secretary at the church and
    the other of whom was eventually hired as a receptionist at the church, he also
    entered into a sexual relationship with both plaintiffs. 
    Id. After the
    plaintiffs ended
    their counseling relationship with the pastor, he began “to criticize their work
    performance and discourage their hopes of promotions,” and he also “engaged in
    behavior and conversation of a sexual nature that was unwelcome at the time.” 
    Id. The Fifth
    Circuit disagreed with the pastor’s claims that he was entitled to
    judgment as a matter of law because he occasionally discussed scripture with the
    plaintiffs during their counseling sessions and therefore the sessions were not purely
    secular, they were “inherently ecclesiastical” and because the plaintiff’s claims were
    “in essence noncognizable claims for ‘clergy malpractice.’” 
    Id. at 335.
    The Fifth
    Circuit held that for the pastor to “invoke the protection of the First Amendment for
    conduct taking place within his counseling relationships with the plaintiffs,” he was
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    required to “assert that the specific conduct allegedly constituting a breach of his
    professional and fiduciary duties was rooted in religious belief.” 
    Id. at 337–38.
    The
    court then noted “the obvious truth that the activities complained of by the
    plaintiffs”—intentional sexual misconduct with the plaintiffs—“were not part of his
    religious beliefs and practices.” 
    Id. at 338.
    The Fifth Circuit thus held that the pastor
    was not entitled to judgment as a matter of law on the basis that the plaintiffs’ claims
    were barred by the First Amendment and the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine. 
    Id. In Westbrook,
    however, the Texas Supreme Court distinguished Sanders,
    noting that Sanders “involved an intentional tort that formed no part of the pastor’s
    or his church’s religious beliefs or practices.” 
    See 231 S.W.3d at 403
    . We likewise
    find Sanders—which involved intentional torts committed in the context of the
    provision of professional counseling services and did not involve matters of church
    discipline and governance—distinguishable from this case. This is not a case of
    professional malpractice but a case of whether Nguyen was disciplined by Hung for
    alleged sexual misconduct and accordingly whether Hung told the truth to Church
    leadership when he said that Nguyen left the Church for that reason and, if not,
    whether his statement was defamatory, and whether the matter should have been
    handled by Church authorities under principles regarding the conformity of all
    concerned to the standards of morals established by the Church. See 
    Milivojevich, 426 U.S. at 713
    –14 (holding that “the civil courts exercise no jurisdiction . . . in a
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    matter which concerns . . . the conformity of the members of the church to the
    standard of morals required of them”); 
    Thiagarajan, 430 S.W.3d at 594
    (same).
    We conclude that Nguyen’s defamation claim against Hung and the Church
    necessarily involves ecclesiastical matters that should be resolved within the church
    itself rather than the civil courts. We hold, therefore, that the ecclesiastical abstention
    doctrine applies to this claim and that the trial court erred by denying the Church’s
    plea to the jurisdiction.
    Because we hold that the trial court lacks subject-matter jurisdiction over this
    case, the Church need not demonstrate that it lacks an adequate remedy by appeal.
    See In re St. Thomas High 
    Sch., 495 S.W.3d at 514
    ; In re 
    Godwin, 293 S.W.3d at 747
    .
    We sustain the Church’s sole issue.
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    Conclusion
    We conditionally grant the Church’s petition for writ of mandamus and direct
    the trial court to vacate its order denying the Church’s plea to the jurisdiction. The
    writ will only issue if the trial court fails to comply. Further, we lift the stay of trial
    court proceedings entered by this Court on August 9, 2018.
    Evelyn V. Keyes
    Justice
    Panel consists of Justices Keyes, Higley, and Landau.
    Justice Landau, dissenting.
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