State v. Nielsen , 2020 UT 61 ( 2020 )


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    publication in the Pacific Reporter
    
    2020 UT 61
    IN THE
    SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF UTAH
    STATE OF UTAH and L.L.,
    Appellants,
    v.
    IVAN MICHAEL LOPEZ,
    Appellee.
    STATE OF UTAH,
    Appellee,
    v.
    DARIN CHASE NIELSEN,
    Appellant.
    Nos. 20180940, 20180945, 20180952, and 20190272
    Heard April 8, 2020
    Filed August 18, 2020
    On Consolidated Appeal of Interlocutory Orders
    Third District, Salt Lake
    The Honorable James T. Blanch
    No. 181907088
    Fourth District, Provo
    The Honorable Robert C. Lunnen
    No. 181100038
    STATE v. LOPEZ
    Opinion of the Court
    Attorneys:
    Sean D. Reyes, Att’y Gen., Tera J. Peterson, Asst. Sol. Gen.,
    Clint T. Heiner, Donna Kelly, Lance E. Bastian, Salt Lake City, for the
    State of Utah
    Paul Cassell, Heidi Nestel, C. Bethany Warr, Salt Lake City,
    for appellant L.L.
    Alexandra S. McCallum, Salt Lake City, for appellee
    Ivan Michael Lopez
    Dallas Young, Douglas J. Thompson, Provo, for appellant
    Darin Chase Nielsen
    ASSOCIATE CHIEF JUSTICE LEE authored the opinion of the Court in
    which CHIEF JUSTICE DURRANT, JUSTICE HIMONAS, JUSTICE PEARCE,
    AND JUSTICE PETERSEN joined.
    ASSOCIATE CHIEF JUSTICE LEE, opinion of the Court:
    ¶1 Ivan Michael Lopez and Darin Chase Nielsen each stand
    accused of engaging in illicit activities with children. Lopez is charged
    with furnishing alcohol to, raping, and otherwise sexually abusing a
    twelve-year-old girl (L.L.) in the back of his truck. Nielsen is charged
    with sexually abusing his five-year-old daughter (A.N.) while alone
    with her in a bedroom.
    ¶2 L.L. and A.N. each participated in interviews about their
    alleged abuse at the Children’s Justice Center (CJC). These interviews
    were later introduced (along with other evidence) as “reliable
    hearsay” at Lopez’s and Nielsen’s preliminary hearings in accordance
    with rule 1102 of the Utah Rules of Evidence and rule 15.5 of the Utah
    Rules of Criminal Procedure. Both Lopez and Nielsen sought to
    compel their alleged victims to testify by way of subpoena, each
    asserting a right to do so under rule 7B of the Utah Rules of Criminal
    Procedure and the Compulsory Process Clause of article I, section 12
    of the Utah Constitution.
    ¶3 In the Lopez case, the State and L.L. moved to quash the
    subpoena, but the magistrate denied the motions, opting instead to
    modify the manner in which L.L. would be required to testify. In the
    Nielsen case, the magistrate granted the State’s motion to quash the
    subpoena. We agreed to hear the cases on interlocutory appeal, in
    recognition of the need for guidance from this court on the clash
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    between the rights of defendants and victims in a preliminary hearing.
    We resolve both cases in this consolidated opinion.
    ¶4 We hold that any power a defendant has to subpoena
    witnesses at a preliminary hearing—whether under the rules of
    criminal procedure or the constitution—must be understood in light
    of the prerogative of the court to “quash or modify [a] subpoena if
    compliance would be unreasonable.” UTAH R. CRIM. P. 14(a)(2). And
    we conclude that the unreasonableness inquiry must account for the
    circumscribed function of the preliminary hearing (to determine
    whether there is probable cause to justify bindover) as well as the
    limited burden of proof on the State and the established rights of
    victims at such a hearing. Thus, we hold that once the State has used
    a victim’s reliable hearsay to make a prima facie showing of probable
    cause, a subpoena compelling the victim1 to give additional, live
    testimony will survive a motion to quash only if the defendant
    demonstrates that the subpoena is necessary to present specific
    evidence that is reasonably likely to defeat the showing of probable
    cause. Since neither Lopez nor Nielsen attempted to explain how his
    alleged victim’s additional, live testimony would inform the probable
    cause determination, we reverse the Lopez court’s refusal to quash
    L.L.’s subpoena and affirm the Nielsen court’s decision to quash
    A.N.’s subpoena.
    ¶5 Part I lays out the facts and procedural background of the
    Lopez and Nielsen cases. Part II answers a threshold question raised
    in the Lopez case—whether an alleged victim has a right to seek an
    interlocutory appeal or lodge a direct appeal from a magistrate’s
    denial of a motion to quash her subpoena. Part III sets forth the
    standard that governs such motions, as informed by the probable
    cause standard and the law protecting the rights of crime victims. Part
    IV then applies this standard to the facts of the Lopez and Nielsen
    cases. Part V concludes.
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    1    Throughout this opinion, we sometimes use the term “victim” for
    simplicity. We acknowledge that at the preliminary hearing stage, a
    victim of a crime is an alleged victim of a crime. See UTAH CODE
    § 77-38-2(9)(a) (“‘Victim of a crime’ means any natural person against
    whom the charged crime or conduct is alleged to have been
    perpetrated or attempted by the defendant or . . . against whom a
    related crime or act is alleged to have been perpetrated or attempted
    . . . .” (emphases added)).
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    I. BACKGROUND2
    A. Lopez
    ¶6 Lopez began communicating via phone call and text message
    with L.L. and her friend, C.D., by posing as a fifteen-year-old boy
    named “Giovanni.” One night, L.L. told Lopez that she wanted to visit
    C.D., who was undergoing surgery at the hospital the next morning.
    Lopez told L.L. that he had a car and offered to drive her to C.D.’s
    house. L.L. accepted the offer and met Lopez for the first time in
    person at a local gas station. Instead of taking L.L. to C.D.’s house,
    however, Lopez drove to a residential neighborhood in Kearns,
    parked on a corner, and locked the doors. L.L. moved to the backseat
    to get away from him, but Lopez followed. He then offered L.L.
    marijuana and beer, which she later testified that she refused. Lopez
    drank a beer himself and threw the can out the window. He then
    undressed L.L., undressed himself, and got on top of her, vaginally
    penetrating her with his penis and placing his mouth on her breasts.3
    ¶7 A homeowner called the police after noticing two people
    sitting in the back of a parked truck and seeing something thrown
    from the vehicle. When the responding officer arrived, she found a
    beer can near the truck, the windows steamed up, and Lopez (then
    twenty-seven years old) and L.L. (then twelve years old) in the
    backseat. Both were shuffling their clothing, and Lopez had his
    underwear around one of his ankles under his pants. 4 The officer
    testified that both occupants had their shirts inside out and smelled of
    beer. L.L. told the officer that they had been drinking.
    ¶8 After talking with the officer, L.L. received a sexual assault
    exam, in which she related some of the details of this encounter to a
    nurse. The nurse took photographs of red marks she noticed on L.L.’s
    breasts. Later, an investigating detective interviewed L.L. at the CJC,
    where L.L. gave the full story. The investigating detective also
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    2  When relating the evidence presented at a preliminary hearing,
    we state the facts “in the light most favorable to the prosecution, with
    all reasonable inferences in its favor.” State v. Jones, 
    2016 UT 4
    , ¶ 2 n.1,
    
    365 P.3d 1212
     (citation and internal quotation marks omitted).
    3L.L. also told the CJC interviewer that her shirt and bra stayed on
    throughout the encounter.
    4L.L. testified that Lopez told her to hurry and get her clothes back
    on when he noticed the officer approach.
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    interviewed C.D., who said that L.L. had told her that she (L.L.) and
    Lopez had had sex.
    ¶9 The State charged Lopez with (1) rape of a child,5
    (2) aggravated sexual abuse of a child,6 and (3) furnishing alcohol to a
    minor.7 Before his preliminary hearing, Lopez served L.L. with a
    subpoena compelling her to testify. L.L. moved to quash the subpoena
    on the ground that forcing her to testify at the preliminary hearing
    would be “unreasonable” in light of her statutory and constitutional
    rights as a victim. Lopez responded that “[c]rime victims do not have
    a right under Utah law to refuse to testify at court hearings when they
    have been lawfully served with a subpoena.” The court took L.L.’s
    motion under advisement and proceeded with the preliminary
    hearing.
    ¶10 In the State’s case-in-chief, both the responding officer and
    investigating detective testified. Lopez cross-examined both. The
    State then played a video recording of L.L.’s CJC interview and
    introduced the results of L.L.’s sexual assault exam.
    ¶11 Once the State rested, the court heard arguments on L.L.’s
    motion to quash. Lopez argued that he was not required to explain
    what he expected L.L.’s live testimony to provide because he was
    “entitled” to “find out some more of the details” even if L.L.’s
    testimony ultimately supported rather than undermined probable
    cause.
    ¶12 The court agreed with Lopez and denied the motion to quash,
    holding that the subpoena was “not unreasonable under the facts and
    circumstances of this case.” In particular, it noted L.L.’s “mature
    demeanor” and the fact that the courtroom would be relatively empty.
    The court admitted that it did not “see a likely basis that questioning
    the child victim in this case would defeat probable cause . . . where the
    State has met its burden for bindover during its prima facie case,” but
    held that the defendant “need not show a particular likelihood that
    calling the child victim will defeat probable cause prior to exercising
    his right to call the child victim.” The court justified its decision by
    reasoning that, under the low probable cause standard, “if defendants
    were required to make such a showing prior to subpoenaing and
    questioning witnesses, the Court would be required to quash defense
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    5   UTAH CODE § 76-5-402.1.
    6   Id. § 76-5-404.1(4).
    7   Id. § 32B-4-403.
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    witnesses’ subpoenas in every case and defendants’ right to call
    witnesses under rule 7B . . . would be illusory.”8 Still, the court
    modified the subpoena so that Lopez would remain in the holding cell
    while L.L. testified, and it indicated that it might make further
    accommodations later on.
    ¶13 The parties agreed to continue the proceedings and both L.L.
    and the State petitioned for interlocutory review of the denial of the
    motion to quash. L.L. also filed a timely notice of direct appeal. We
    provisionally granted L.L.’s interlocutory appeal, granted the State’s,
    and consolidated them with L.L.’s direct appeal (deferring a
    determination on our jurisdiction over the direct appeal).
    B. Nielsen
    ¶14 The State’s probable cause statement alleges that Nielsen
    “engaged in sex acts with his daughter, A.N.” Specifically, the State
    claims that in a forensic interview at the CJC, A.N. described a
    “naughty game” that she and Nielsen would play on a bed. In this
    game, Nielsen would allegedly touch A.N.’s “bottom” with a “part”
    that was “round,” the “color of skin,” and close to his belly button, as
    well as touch A.N. between her legs with his hands. The State is
    charging Nielsen with two counts of aggravated sexual abuse of a
    child with a prior grievous sex offense.9
    ¶15 Prior to the preliminary hearing, Nielsen moved to subpoena
    various witnesses (including A.N.), while the State moved to admit
    A.N.’s CJC interview and quash her subpoena. In opposing the latter
    motion, Nielsen argued that while he had an express right to call
    witnesses under rule 7B of the Utah Rules of Criminal Procedure and
    article I, section 12 of the Utah Constitution, nothing in the rules or
    constitution granted victims a right to “avoid legal process” or “not
    be required to testify.” He also argued that subpoenaing A.N. would
    not destroy the State’s ability to use reliable hearsay at preliminary
    hearings in its case-in-chief.
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    8  Elsewhere, however, the court also expressed the view that
    quashing a subpoena might be appropriate “where it’s purely and
    entirely speculative about whether or not a witness’s testimony could
    potentially defeat bindover, and we [a]re dealing with a very, very
    young child where it [i]s apparent to the Court that it would be a
    traumatic experience for the alleged victim in the case to testify.”
    9  UTAH CODE § 76-5-404.1(4). At the time, Nielsen was on parole
    for a prior conviction of aggravated sexual abuse of a child.
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    ¶16 The court began the preliminary hearing by granting the
    State’s motion to quash the A.N. subpoena. In so doing, the court cited
    Utah’s policy of allowing reliable hearsay in preliminary hearings as
    laid out in rules 7B and 15.5 of the Utah Rules of Criminal Procedure,
    rule 1102 of the Utah Rules of Evidence, article I, section 12 of the Utah
    Constitution, and this court’s opinion in State v. Timmerman, 
    2009 UT 58
    , 
    218 P.3d 590
    . Nielsen objected to this ruling, asserting that “[n]o
    witness except [A.N.] can eviscerate and make incredible the State’s
    alleged claims to probable cause,” that “[w]ithout context, the State’s
    inference of the ‘naughty game’” would “stretch the legal fabric past
    it[]s sure point,” and that he had a right to “test the State’s evidence.”
    But Nielsen never explained what clarification he expected A.N. to
    offer, and the court reaffirmed its ruling.
    ¶17 The State then called the forensic interviewer, A.N.’s mother,
    and the investigating detective to testify. The interviewer explained
    how he had avoided asking leading questions or suggesting A.N.’s
    answers. A.N.’s mother testified that Nielsen was alone with A.N.
    sometimes. The investigating detective testified that A.N.’s
    step-grandmother had first reported the abuse to the police. Nielsen
    cross-examined all these witnesses, but never about the content of
    A.N.’s CJC interview or the manner in which it was conducted.10
    Finally, the State introduced Nielsen’s 2005 conviction for aggravated
    sexual abuse of a child.
    ¶18 At the close of the preliminary hearing, Nielsen offered no
    evidence. Instead, he asked that the magistrate hear argument on the
    “strengths and weaknesses” of the CJC video once he (Nielsen) had
    seen the video and conferred with counsel “as to the presence or lack
    of presence of probable cause.” The State and the court agreed. But
    before the next scheduled hearing could occur, Nielsen obtained new
    counsel, who asked the court to clarify its ruling on the motion to
    quash so that Nielsen could have a clean record on which to seek
    interlocutory appeal of the decision pre-bindover. In a telephone
    conference, defense counsel admitted that “one of the difficult issues”
    in the case was that they did not know “precisely what [A.N.] would
    say.”
    ¶19 The magistrate then issued a written ruling reaffirming the
    original decision, holding that “[d]efendant’s assertion that he has an
    unrestrained right to call A.N. as a witness at his preliminary hearing
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    10Nielsen asked the forensic interviewer about his notes, for
    example, but not his questioning of A.N.
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    is entirely inconsistent with the overall intent expressed in the rules
    and statutes governing preliminary hearings,” and that the purpose
    of the Victims’ Rights Amendment was to “excuse victims from
    having to appear at the preliminary examination.” In particular, the
    court noted victims’ constitutional rights to “be treated with fairness,
    respect, and dignity, and to be free from harassment and abuse
    throughout the criminal justice process.” UTAH CONST. art. I,
    § 28(1)(a). The court also concluded that if Nielsen’s subpoena were
    “characterized as an effort to exercise his right to cross-examination,”
    then “Timmerman [
    2009 UT 58
    ] and Crawford [v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
     (2004)] have explicitly rejected that argument.”
    ¶20 Nielsen petitioned for interlocutory review of the order,
    which we granted. As the parties had agreed, the magistrate stayed
    the proceedings and delayed any decision on bindover.
    II. L.L.’S RIGHT TO APPEAL
    ¶21 A threshold question in the Lopez case concerns the proper
    avenue for challenging a decision on a motion to quash a defendant’s
    preliminary-hearing subpoena. Lopez’s alleged victim, L.L., filed a
    direct appeal of right, apparently on the theory that the decision in the
    Lopez case was effectively “final” under our law. As an apparent
    backup, L.L. also petitioned for interlocutory appeal—a petition
    which we “provisionally” granted, subject to briefing on whether L.L.
    has standing to seek appellate review.
    ¶22 We undoubtedly have jurisdiction to hear the case, having
    granted the State’s petition for interlocutory appeal. See UTAH CODE
    § 78A-3-102(3)(h) (“The Supreme Court has appellate jurisdiction . . .
    over . . . interlocutory appeals from any court of record involving a
    charge of a first degree or capital felony.”). And L.L. clearly has both
    the standing and right to pursue an interlocutory appeal from the
    denial of her motion to quash, as she would be forced to testify
    otherwise and has a statutory right to seek an appeal from an
    “[a]dverse ruling[]” on her motion “under the rules governing
    appellate actions.” UTAH CODE § 77-38-11(2)(b).11 Yet L.L. urges us to
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    11 See also Haik v. Jones, 
    2018 UT 39
    , ¶ 18, 
    427 P.3d 1155
     (holding
    that the traditional standing test “requires a plaintiff to show some
    distinct and palpable injury that gives rise to a personal stake in the
    outcome of the dispute.” (citation and internal quotation marks
    omitted)); State v. Brown, 
    2014 UT 48
    , ¶ 16, 
    342 P.3d 239
     (holding that
    “[t]he traditional parties to a criminal proceeding are the prosecution
    and the defense,” but that “does not eliminate the possibility that a
    (continued . . .)
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    decide whether she also has a right to file a direct appeal, emphasizing
    the upsides of our providing clarity on the matter.
    ¶23 We agree with the need to address this issue but disagree
    with the notion that L.L. has a right to a direct appeal. Clarity in our
    articulation of the law of appellate jurisdiction is important. See Utah
    Down Syndrome Found., Inc. v. Utah Down Syndrome Ass’n, 
    2012 UT 86
    ,
    ¶ 16, 
    293 P.3d 241
     (explaining that “certainty is critical” and “bright-
    line rules” are helpful on matters of appellate jurisdiction). And for
    that reason we exercise our discretion to resolve the question
    presented despite the fact that our decision is not required.
    ¶24 We conclude, however, that the proper mechanism for appeal
    in this circumstance is a petition for interlocutory appeal. Our rules,
    as interpreted in our case law, provide only for a discretionary
    petition for interlocutory appeal, not a direct appeal of right.
    ¶25 Federal case law endorses the notion of a “collateral order”
    doctrine. See Cohen v. Beneficial Indus. Loan Corp., 
    337 U.S. 541
    , 546–47
    (1949). This doctrine treats as final (and appealable) a ruling that is
    otherwise interlocutory but conclusively determines a “claim[] of
    right” that is ”separable from” and “collateral to” the underlying
    action, and that would be “effectively” unreviewable on appeal from
    a final judgment. 
    Id. at 546
    . The terms and conditions of this doctrine
    could potentially be established here, where the refusal to quash a
    subpoena compelling victim testimony is conclusive and separate
    from the criminal charges against the accused and could be deemed
    “effectively” unreviewable on appeal from a final judgment. But we
    have thus far declined to adopt the collateral order doctrine as a
    matter of Utah law. See Mecham v. Frazier, 
    2008 UT 60
    , ¶ 12, 
    193 P.3d 630
     (“[I]n Utah, there is no collateral order doctrine.”); Tyler v. Dep’t of
    Human Servs., 
    874 P.2d 119
    (Utah 1994) (per curiam) (declining to
    adopt the federal collateral order doctrine on the ground that Utah
    law provides sufficient avenues for obtaining review of nonfinal
    orders). And we have identified three specific avenues for appeal
    from a nonfinal judgment in our courts: petition for interlocutory
    appeal under appellate rule 5, certification under civil rule 54(b), and
    petition for extraordinary relief under civil rule 65B(e). Tyler, 874 P.2d
    at 120. We have determined that these avenues provide Utah courts
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    victim may qualify as a limited-purpose party—with standing to
    assert a claim”); State v. Casey, 
    2002 UT 29
    , ¶ 22, 
    44 P.3d 756
    (recognizing that “crime victims possess the right to appeal rulings on
    motions related to their rights as a victim”).
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    with “ample power” to consider granting “immediate review” where
    “appropriate.” 
    Id.
     (“Our rules allowing discretionary review provide
    parties an opportunity to convince an appellate court that the issue
    raised is so important that review prior to full adjudication of the case
    is justified or that the order will escape review altogether if an appeal
    is not allowed.”).
    ¶26 These principles control our decision here. There is no final
    judgment in the case before us on review—indeed, the case is at a very
    preliminary stage. For that reason, the appellate avenues available to
    L.L. are those set forth under our case law.12 L.L accordingly has no
    direct appeal available of right and is limited to a discretionary appeal
    under appellate rule 5. Because she properly pursued that avenue and
    undoubtedly has standing, we affirm our jurisdiction to hear her
    appeal in addition to the State’s.
    III. THE STANDARD FOR JUDGING THE QUESTIONS
    PRESENTED ON APPEAL
    ¶27 We turn next to the standard for judging a motion to quash a
    subpoena directed to an alleged victim in a preliminary hearing. This
    is a complex question of first impression that requires us to balance
    defendants’ rights under our rules and constitution against victims’
    rights under the same—in particular, the Victims’ Rights Amendment
    adopted in 1995.
    ¶28 In asserting a right to subpoena their alleged victims to testify
    at their preliminary hearings, the defendants rely first on rule 7B(a) of
    our rules of criminal procedure—a provision that states that a
    defendant in a preliminary hearing “may testify under oath, call
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    12  Our cases have recognized a direct appeal of right from the entry
    of at least one form of non-final order—an order denying a motion to
    intervene. See Brigham Young Univ. v. Tremco Consultants, Inc., 
    2007 UT 17
    , ¶ 17, 
    156 P.3d 782
    ; Commercial Block Realty Co. v. U.S. Fid. & Guar.
    Co., 
    28 P.2d 1081
    , 1082 (Utah 1934). But this case does not involve that
    kind of non-final order, and L.L. has neither cited these cases nor
    suggested that they are implicated by the denial of a motion to quash.
    For that reason we need not and do not decide whether or how our
    cases on intervention may be reconciled with our general rejection of
    a collateral order doctrine. Instead we hold that L.L. has not
    established a right to an appeal of right in a case like this one. And we
    leave any questions about our precedent on denial of a motion to
    intervene for a case in which these cases are squarely presented and
    briefed by the parties.
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    witnesses, and present evidence.” They then invoke their right to
    “compulsory process” under article I, section 12 of the Utah
    Constitution.13
    ¶29 The magistrate in the Lopez case endorsed the defendants’
    general view. In denying the motion to quash, the magistrate noted
    that Lopez had an “explicit right to call witnesses” under rule 7B(a)
    and concluded that no constitutional provision, statute, or procedural
    rule “explicitly provides that a child sex abuse victim cannot be called
    to testify at a preliminary hearing.” The magistrate acknowledged that
    it could not “see a likely basis” for concluding “that questioning the
    child victim in this case would defeat probable cause . . . where the
    State has met its burden for bindover during its prima facie case.” But
    it nonetheless ruled that Lopez was not required to “show a particular
    likelihood that calling the child victim [would] defeat probable cause
    prior to exercising his right to call the child victim.” In light of the
    “low probable cause standard,” the magistrate thought that “if
    defendants were required to make such a showing prior to
    subpoenaing and questioning witnesses, the Court would be required
    to quash defense witnesses’ subpoenas in every case and defendants’
    right to call witnesses under rule 7B . . . would be illusory.” The court
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    13  In the proceedings below, Lopez did not even quote the
    Compulsory Process Clause, opting instead to make a vague reference
    to article I, section 12 of the Utah Constitution. This is insufficient. See
    Bank of Am. v. Adamson, 
    2017 UT 2
    , ¶ 13, 
    391 P.3d 196
     (“A party must
    cite the legal authority on which its argument is based and then
    provide reasoned analysis of how that authority should apply in the
    particular case . . . .”). We address the issue only with respect to
    Nielsen, since he did grapple with and make an argument respecting
    the text of the Compulsory Process Clause.
    On appeal, Lopez—and, in more vague terms, Nielsen—also seek
    to base their right to compel testimony of the alleged victims in the
    Due Process Clause. But neither Lopez nor Nielsen preserved this
    claim below—either in their memoranda opposing the motions to
    quash the subpoenas or in argument before the court. Lopez’s counsel
    did mention “due process” once while arguing in the court below, but
    that was in connection with an argument over a defendant’s right to a
    preliminary hearing. And Nielsen made only a vague insistence that
    his subpoena protected a “substantial right.” These vague allusions to
    due process are not enough to preserve the due process claim pursued
    in the briefs on appeal. And we decline to reach this claim on
    preservation grounds.
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    thus recognized its authority to “quash or modify [a] subpoena if
    compliance would be unreasonable” under the terms of criminal rule
    14(a)(2), but held that the subpoena at issue was “not unreasonable
    under the facts and circumstances of [the] case,” including the
    “mature demeanor” of the alleged victim and the fact that the
    courtroom would be relatively empty during the preliminary hearing.
    Still, the court modified the subpoena by requiring that Lopez remain
    in a holding cell while L.L. testified and indicating that further
    accommodations might be added as required.
    ¶30 The court in the Nielsen case granted the motion to quash. In
    so doing, the magistrate concluded that Nielsen’s “assertion that he
    has an unrestrained right to call” an alleged victim “as a witness at his
    preliminary hearing is entirely inconsistent with the overall intent
    expressed in the rules and statutes governing preliminary hearings.”
    The court also cited Utah Rule of Evidence 1102(b)(7) and Utah Rule
    of Criminal Procedure 15.5, which open the door to the admission of
    hearsay testimony by victims under fourteen years of age in certain
    circumstances.14 It further held, quoting State v. Nguyen, that these
    rules are aimed at “prevent[ing] child victims from being further
    traumatized by the experience of testifying of their abuse in court.”
    
    2012 UT 80
    , ¶ 22, 
    293 P.3d 236
    . And it noted that article I, section 28 of
    the Utah Constitution provides that “victims of crime have their own
    independent rights to justice and due process, and demands that they
    ‘be treated with fairness, respect, and dignity, and to be free from
    harassment and abuse throughout the criminal justice process.’”
    Finally, the court ruled that to the extent the Nielsen subpoena was an
    attempt “to exercise [a] right to cross[-]examination,” that argument
    was foreclosed by State v. Timmerman, 
    2009 UT 58
    , ¶ 9, 
    218 P.3d 590
    ,
    and Crawford v. Washington, 
    541 U.S. 36
    , 40 (2004).
    ¶31 We appreciate and commend the work of the magistrates for
    their careful attention to the difficult questions presented in the two
    cases before us in this consolidated opinion. Their reasoned analysis
    has helped to sharpen the questions presented for our review—
    questions that require a careful balance of seemingly competing
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    14 UTAH R. EVID. 1102(b)(7) (“For purposes of criminal preliminary
    examinations only, reliable hearsay includes[] . . . a statement made
    by a child victim of physical abuse or a sexual offense which is
    recorded in accordance with Rule 15.5 of the Utah Rules of Criminal
    Procedure”); UTAH R. CRIM. P. 15.5 (laying out the proper procedures
    for recording such testimony).
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    provisions of law and that have never before been considered by this
    court.
    ¶32 We conclude that the key to balancing these various
    provisions is the insight that any general ability a defendant may have
    to compel his alleged victim to testify in a preliminary hearing must
    be understood in light of the court’s authority to “quash or modify [a]
    subpoena if compliance would be unreasonable.” UTAH R. CRIM. P.
    14(a)(2). And we hold that that reasonableness inquiry must account
    for a range of limitations on a defendant’s ability to compel an alleged
    victim to testify—the constitutionally limited purpose of a
    preliminary hearing, the State’s ability to rely on reliable hearsay, the
    low bar that applies in a decision to bind a defendant over for trial,
    and other victim protections set forth in the 1995 Victims’ Rights
    Amendment to the Utah Constitution. With these provisions in mind,
    we hold that once the State has used a victim’s reliable hearsay to
    make a prima facie showing of probable cause, a subpoena compelling
    the victim to give additional, live testimony will survive a motion to
    quash only if the defendant demonstrates that the subpoena is
    necessary to the presentation of specific evidence that is reasonably
    likely to defeat the showing of probable cause.
    ¶33 We develop the basis for our holdings in the paragraphs
    below. We first discuss a defendant’s ability to call witnesses at a
    preliminary hearing and identify an important limitation—the power
    of a court to quash a subpoena where “compliance would be
    unreasonable.” We then consider a series of provisions in our law that
    inform the inquiry into the reasonableness of a subpoena compelling
    an alleged victim at a preliminary hearing. And we conclude by
    articulating the governing standard in greater detail.
    A. The Defendant’s Ability to “Call Witnesses” at a Preliminary
    Hearing
    ¶34 The threshold question concerns the existence of an alleged
    “right” to subpoena a witness to testify at a preliminary hearing.
    Defendants’ first-cited basis for the existence of such a “right” is
    criminal rule 7B. That rule governs preliminary hearings. It provides
    in relevant part that “[a]t the conclusion of the state’s case, the
    defendant may testify under oath, call witnesses, and present
    evidence.” UTAH R. CRIM. P. 7B(a) (emphasis added). The Lopez court
    cited this language, noted the absence of an “explicit[]” protection for
    alleged victims, and concluded that the “right” to “call witnesses”
    would be “illusory” if it were conditioned on a requirement of proof
    of a “particular likelihood” that a subpoenaed witness would defeat
    probable cause.
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    ¶35 Defendants also invoke the Compulsory Process Clause of
    article I, section 12 of the Utah Constitution. They note that this
    provision states that “the accused shall have the right” to “compulsory
    process to compel the attendance of witnesses” in “criminal
    prosecutions.” UTAH CONST. art. I, § 12 (emphasis added). And they
    assert that this provision applies to a preliminary hearing, presumably
    as the first step in a “criminal prosecution[].”15 Id.
    ¶36 The State and Lopez’s alleged victim (L.L.) challenge this
    latter proposition. They contend that the constitutional compulsory
    process right applies with limited force, if at all, in a preliminary
    hearing—especially after the adoption of the Victims’ Rights
    Amendment. They likewise challenge the breadth of any rule-based
    right to “call witnesses” at a preliminary hearing, asserting that rule
    7B(a) says only that the defendant “may” call witnesses, and
    contending that any such authority must be limited by other
    provisions of the criminal rules and by the terms and conditions of the
    Victims’ Rights Amendment to the Utah Constitution.
    ¶37 The State and L.L. cite our decision in State v. Timmerman,
    
    2009 UT 58
    , 
    218 P.3d 590
    , in support of their position. They note that
    in that case we held that the 1995 Victims’ Rights Amendment “clearly
    removed confrontation rights from the preliminary hearing stage” of a
    criminal case and overruled our prior decision in State v. Anderson, 
    612 P.2d 778
    , 784–85 (Utah 1980), on this point. Timmerman, 
    2009 UT 58
    ,
    ¶ 15 (emphasis added). And the State asks us to hold that the cited
    legal grounds for the purported right to compel an alleged victim to
    testify at a preliminary hearing are nothing more than an attempted
    end run around Timmerman.
    ¶38 The governing provision of the Victims’ Rights Amendment
    expressly states that “[n]othing in this constitution shall preclude the
    use of reliable hearsay evidence as defined by statute or rule in whole
    or in part at any preliminary examination to determine probable cause
    . . . if appropriate discovery is allowed as defined by statute or rule.”
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    15 Defendants’ amicus, the Utah Association of Criminal Defense
    Lawyers (UACDL), makes a similar argument by pointing to Utah
    Code section 77-1-6(1)(e), which provides that “[i]n criminal
    prosecutions the defendant is entitled . . . [t]o have compulsory
    process to insure the attendance of witnesses in his behalf.” UACDL
    asks us to uphold the statutory right to “compulsory process” and to
    hold that it applies at the preliminary hearing stage. Our analysis on
    the Compulsory Process Clause applies with equal force to this
    statutory argument.
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    UTAH CONST. art. I, § 12. Citing this provision, the State and L.L. ask
    us to conclude that there can be no blanket “right” to subpoena victim
    testimony at a preliminary hearing. They argue that if defendants can
    compel their alleged victims to undergo adverse questioning simply
    by calling them as their “own” witnesses, then the State’s authority to
    rest on reliable hearsay will never be of any practical effect, and we
    will rob the constitutional proviso of its intended effect.
    ¶39 We think both sides overplay their hand to some degree. The
    cited provision of the Victims’ Rights Amendment, for one thing, is
    not dispositive. It says only that “[n]othing in this constitution shall
    preclude the use of reliable hearsay” in the determination of
    “probable cause.” Id. (emphasis added). That leaves room for the
    revival of a right to compel and confront witnesses as a matter of
    legislative or judicial policy. See id. (allowing the “use of reliable
    hearsay evidence as defined by statute or rule” (emphasis added)). And
    that leaves open the questions whether and to what extent the terms
    of the code or our rules preserve a defendant’s right to subpoena
    witnesses.
    ¶40 Yet the governing rules and statutes cannot be read to
    enshrine an unfettered “right” to subpoena victim witnesses to testify
    at a preliminary hearing. Rule 7B(a) speaks to the general authority of
    a defendant to make his own case at a preliminary hearing. See UTAH
    R. CRIM. P. 7B(a) (“At the conclusion of the state’s case, the defendant
    may testify under oath, call witnesses, and present evidence.”). And
    the ability to “call witnesses” at least arguably encompasses the
    general power to subpoena witnesses.16 But any such power is
    expressly subject to limitation—by the rules themselves as well as the
    terms and conditions of the Utah Constitution. The threshold
    limitation appears in criminal rule 14(a)(2), which provides that “[t]he
    court may quash or modify [a] subpoena if compliance would be
    unreasonable.” Id. 14(a)(2) (emphasis added). This reasonableness
    standard vests a degree of discretion in the court. But that discretion
    must be exercised in light of legal standards that speak specifically to
    the question presented. And here those standards include provisions
    that appear both elsewhere in our rules and in the terms and
    conditions of the 1995 Victims’ Rights Amendment. See UTAH R. CRIM.
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    16Alternatively, the ability to “call witnesses” may just encompass
    the defendant’s right to present evidence through witnesses who
    agree to appear. We do not resolve this question conclusively here
    because it is unnecessary to our decision.
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    P. 14 advisory committee notes (noting the need to consider “a
    victim’s state constitutional right ‘[t]o be treated with fairness, respect,
    and dignity, and to be free from harassment and abuse throughout the
    criminal justice process’” in assessing the parallel terms of rule 14(b)
    (alteration in original)).
    ¶41 We elaborate on the governing limits informing the
    “unreasonableness” inquiry in Part III(B). Here, we conclude only that
    (a) neither Timmerman nor the constitutional proviso that “[n]othing
    in this constitution shall preclude the use of reliable hearsay,” UTAH
    CONST. art I, § 12, forecloses limitations on the admissibility of hearsay
    set forth by rule or statute, but (b) a subpoena of a victim witness may
    be quashed as “unreasonable” in light of governing provisions of our
    law that speak to the limited purpose of the preliminary hearing, the
    low burden of proof that governs the bindover decision, and victims’
    rights under the Utah Constitution.
    ¶42 These holdings preserve a meaningful, non-illusory role for a
    defendant’s ability to “call witnesses” at a preliminary hearing under
    criminal rule 7B.17 They also obviate the need for us to conclusively
    resolve the question whether a defendant has a rule-based, statutory,
    or constitutional “compulsory process” right to subpoena witnesses
    to testify at a preliminary hearing. We can assume for the sake of
    argument that such a right exists because even if it does, there is no
    basis for the conclusion that it is categorical or unlimited. Defendants
    and their amicus identify no persuasive basis for such a
    determination. For that reason, we hold that any authority a
    defendant has to subpoena witnesses at a preliminary hearing—
    whether by rule, statute, or the constitution—is subject to rule
    14(a)(2)’s “unreasonableness” limitation. And we conclude that the
    unreasonableness inquiry must be performed in light of the
    provisions set forth below.
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    17 We see at least two potential problems with the Lopez court’s
    conclusion that a decision granting the motion to quash would render
    a defendant’s ability to “call witnesses” illusory. First, it assumes that
    “call” equates to “compel.” See supra ¶¶ 40, 40 n.16. Second, it
    conflates “witnesses” in general with “alleged victims.” A defendant
    may be limited in his ability to subpoena his alleged victim (for the
    reasons laid out in this opinion) without being deprived of a right to
    “call witnesses” at all.
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    B. Legal Principles Informing the Inquiry into “Unreasonableness”
    ¶43 The inquiry into the unreasonableness of a subpoena directed
    at an alleged victim in a preliminary hearing is informed by a series
    of important tenets of Utah law.
    1. The Purpose of the Preliminary Hearing
    ¶44 The first relevant principle is found in limitations on the
    purpose of the preliminary hearing. Prior to the ratification of the 1995
    Victims’ Rights Amendment to the Utah Constitution, this court had
    held that a preliminary hearing was at least in part “a discovery
    device”—a “means by which” the defendant could “discover and
    preserve favorable evidence.” State v. Anderson, 
    612 P.2d 778
    , 784
    (Utah 1980). But that “ancillary” function of the preliminary hearing,
    
    id.,
     was eliminated by the constitutional amendment ratified in 1995.
    Under that amendment, the “function” of the preliminary hearing “is
    limited to determining whether probable cause exists unless
    otherwise provided by statute.” UTAH CONST. art. I, § 12. This
    amendment was thus a direct override of Anderson on this point. See
    State v. Goins, 
    2017 UT 61
    , ¶ 44, 
    423 P.3d 1236
     (acknowledging that
    past cases might need to be revisited if they were decided before the
    1995 amendment “limited the purpose of preliminary hearings”). The
    amendment eliminated the ancillary discovery purpose of the
    preliminary hearing and limited that proceeding to the determination
    of probable cause.
    2. Hearsay Evidence in the Preliminary Hearing
    ¶45 The 1995 amendment also established that the Utah
    Constitution would not stand as a bar to “the use of reliable hearsay
    evidence as defined by statute or rule . . . at any preliminary
    examination to determine probable cause.” UTAH CONST. art I, § 12.
    This was again an override of an element of our decision in Anderson.
    Anderson had established a confrontation right at the preliminary
    hearing—a right “not only of testing the recollection and sifting the
    conscience” of an adverse witness, but also “of compelling him to
    stand face-to-face” with the defendant in court. 612 P.2d at 785. But
    by “allowing hearsay” evidence to establish probable cause, the 1995
    amendment “removed confrontation rights from the preliminary
    hearing stage and overruled Anderson’s holding on this point.” State v.
    Timmerman, 
    2009 UT 58
    , ¶ 15, 
    218 P.3d 590
    . This left the “[a]dmission
    of evidence at preliminary hearings . . . exclusively governed by the
    reliable hearsay language in the Utah Constitution and rule 1102 of
    the Utah Rules of Evidence.” Id. ¶ 16. And rule 1102, in turn, defines
    “reliable hearsay” to encompass “statement[s] made by a child victim
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    of physical abuse or a sexual offense” that are “recorded in accordance
    with [r]ule 15.5 of the Utah Rules of Criminal Procedure.” UTAH R.
    EVID. 1102(b)(7).
    3. The Burden of Proof at the Preliminary Hearing
    ¶46 The State bears the burden of establishing the basis for
    binding a defendant over for trial. State v. Jones, 
    2016 UT 4
    , ¶ 11, 
    365 P.3d 1212
    . But the burden is “light.” Id. ¶ 12. The only “question at the
    preliminary hearing is whether the prosecution has presented
    evidence sufficient to sustain ‘probable cause.’” Id. To make this
    showing, the prosecution need not produce evidence sufficient to
    “support[] a finding of guilt at trial” or even to “eliminate alternative
    inferences that could be drawn from the evidence in favor of the
    defense.” Id. ¶ 13 (citations and internal quotation marks omitted). All
    that is necessary is a presentation of “evidence sufficient to support a
    reasonable belief that an offense has been committed and that the
    defendant committed it.” State v. Schmidt, 
    2015 UT 65
    , ¶ 17, 
    356 P.3d 1204
     (citation and internal quotation marks omitted).
    ¶47 Accordingly, it is generally “inappropriate for a magistrate to
    weigh credible but conflicting evidence at a preliminary hearing . . . .”
    State v. Virgin, 
    2006 UT 29
    , ¶ 24, 
    137 P.3d 787
    . This hearing “is not a
    trial on the merits” but “a gateway to the finder of fact.” 
    Id.
     (citation
    and internal quotation marks omitted). With this in mind, the
    magistrate may “disregard or discredit” evidence only if it is “wholly
    lacking and incapable of creating a reasonable inference regarding a
    portion of the prosecution’s claim.” 
    Id.
     (citation and internal quotation
    marks omitted).
    ¶48 Under this low bar, it may be difficult for the defense to
    overcome a prima facie showing of probable cause. Even an alleged
    victim’s recantation may sometimes be insufficient, given that the
    magistrate “must view all evidence in the light most favorable to the
    prosecution and draw all reasonable inferences in favor of the
    prosecution.” See Schmidt, 
    2015 UT 65
    , ¶ 4 (footnote and internal
    quotation marks omitted). The governing standard is the one we
    articulated in Schmidt: The magistrate is not “to evaluate the totality
    of the evidence in search of the most reasonable inference at a
    preliminary hearing”; instead, the “magistrate has discretion to
    decline bindover only where the facts presented by the prosecution
    provide no more than a basis for speculation.” Id. ¶ 18 (citations and
    internal quotation marks omitted).
    4. The Rights of Victims at the Preliminary Hearing
    ¶49 Finally, crime victims have extensive rights in criminal justice
    proceedings in Utah. The 1995 amendment to the Utah Constitution
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    established a right of crime victims “[t]o be treated with fairness,
    respect, and dignity,” and a right to “be free from harassment and
    abuse throughout the criminal justice process.” UTAH CONST. art I,
    § 28(1)(a). These rights are further delineated by statute. Under Utah
    Code section 77-38-2, the victim’s right to “fairness” encompasses the
    right to be treated “reasonably, even-handedly, and impartially,” id.
    § 77-38-2(3), the right to be free from “abuse” is a right to be free from
    treatment that would “injure, damage, or disparage,” id. § 77-38-2(1),
    and the right to be free from “harassment” is the right to be free from
    being treated “in a persistently annoying manner,” id. § 77-38-2(4).
    Also relevant to this case is the neighboring provision that states that
    “[c]hildren have the right to protection from physical and emotional
    abuse during their involvement with the criminal justice process.” Id.
    § 77-37-4(1).
    C. The Standard for Determining Whether a Subpoena of a Victim
    Witness at a Preliminary Hearing is “Unreasonable”
    ¶50 The above sets the stage for our articulation of the standard
    for judging whether a subpoena directed to an alleged victim at a
    preliminary hearing is unreasonable. Four principles inform our
    statement of the standard: (1) the sole purpose of the preliminary
    hearing is the determination of probable cause; (2) reliable hearsay
    evidence—including statements made by a child victim of abuse
    under the terms of rule 1102—may be sufficient to establish probable
    cause; (3) the probable cause standard—requiring evidence sufficient
    to support a reasonable belief that an offense has been committed and
    that the defendant committed it—leaves little room for the magistrate
    to judge witness credibility and is difficult for a defendant to
    overcome; and (4) crime victims have a right to be treated with
    “fairness, respect, and dignity,” and to “be free from harassment and
    abuse throughout the criminal process.” UTAH CONST. art I, § 28(1)(a).
    ¶51 These legal principles foreclose the defendants’ assertion of a
    “right” to compel a victim to testify at a preliminary hearing without
    showing how such testimony could affect the prosecution’s prima facie
    showing of probable cause. A subpoena in service of such a right
    would be unreasonable in light of the principles set forth above. It
    would exceed the bounds of the constitutional purpose of the
    preliminary hearing, effectively override the law endorsing the
    sufficiency of hearsay evidence in establishing probable cause,
    supersede the governing standard for establishing probable cause,
    and ultimately intrude on the constitutional and statutory rights of
    victims.
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    ¶52 The last point is sustained by extensive social science material
    put forward in the briefing submitted by L.L. That material identifies
    some patterns that typically appear in the interactions between a
    perpetrator and victim of child sex abuse: a perpetrator who
    “desensitize[s]” a child victim after “befriend[ing]” her by increasing
    levels of abuse from minimal acts to more “invasive” ones; a child
    who becomes so emotionally traumatized that she finds it difficult to
    resist or disclose the abuse; and a period of delay in reporting that
    may cause the child to feel somehow responsible for the abuse or
    believe that it has become consensual. See Thomas D. Lyon & Julia A.
    Dente, Child Witnesses and the Confrontation Clause, 102 J. CRIM. L. &
    CRIMINOLOGY 1181, 1203–12 (2012). The social science literature also
    establishes that the experience of testifying about past abuse may
    cause substantial emotional trauma for victims of child sex abuse. See
    Jim Henry, System Intervention Trauma to Child Sexual Abuse Victims
    Following Disclosure, 12 J. INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE 499, 501, 508
    (1997). And it indicates that forcing such victims to “continually
    repeat their abuse stories” can “connect[] children with painful
    memories and may reinforce the internalization of guilt and shame
    experienced in sexual abuse,” id. at 508, and “reduce the child’s
    resilience and make the child more susceptible to distress.” L.
    Christine Brannon, The Trauma of Testifying in Court for Child Victims of
    Sexual Assault v. The Accused’s Right to Confrontation, 18 L. & PSYCHOL.
    REV. 439, 442 (1994).
    ¶53 The above points are controlling. A defendant has the general
    authority to “call witnesses” at a preliminary hearing, but a subpoena
    compelling alleged victims to testify is per se “unreasonable” when it
    seeks testimony that is immaterial to the probable-cause
    determination, would obviate the legal sufficiency of hearsay
    evidence, and would unnecessarily intrude on the rights of victims.
    ¶54 With this in mind, we conclude that the starting point for
    assessing the reasonableness of a subpoena aimed at compelling an
    alleged victim of sex abuse to testify at a preliminary hearing is a prima
    facie determination of probable cause. See UTAH R. CRIM. P. 7B(a) (“At
    the conclusion of the state’s case, the defendant may . . . call witnesses[]
    and present evidence.” (emphasis added)). A decision on whether to
    quash such a subpoena, in other words, should come after the
    prosecution presents its case and the magistrate is able to determine
    whether the prosecution has presented evidence that at that stage
    would sustain a determination of probable cause. See id.; see also UTAH
    CONST. art. I, § 12 (“Where the defendant is otherwise entitled to a
    preliminary examination, the function of that examination is limited
    to determining whether probable cause exists unless otherwise
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    provided by statute.”). If the magistrate determines that this is so, the
    inquiry then turns to whether the subpoena of the alleged victim is
    unreasonable. UTAH R. CRIM. P. 14(a)(2) (“The court may quash or
    modify the subpoena if compliance would be unreasonable.”). That
    assessment should be made on the basis of the defendant’s showing
    that additional, live testimony from the victim is necessary to present
    evidence on a specific point material to the probable-cause
    determination, and that is reasonably likely to defeat the State’s prima
    facie showing of probable cause.18
    ¶55 The above sequencing of this inquiry will best balance the
    competing interests and rights of both the defendant and the alleged
    victim. On one hand, it will preserve the defendant’s opportunity to
    “call witnesses” under criminal rule 7B(a). On the other hand, it will
    maintain the court’s power to quash a subpoena that would be
    “unreasonable” as applied to a given victim after accounting for the
    circumscribed function of the preliminary hearing, the low
    probable-cause standard, and victims’ rights.
    ¶56 Our standard speaks to the grounds on which a subpoena
    should be quashed as a matter of law—where a prima facie showing of
    probable cause has been established through a victim’s reliable
    hearsay, and where the defendant is unable to identify a need to
    present additional, live testimony from the victim on a specific point
    that is material to the probable-cause determination and reasonably
    likely to defeat the State’s prima facie showing. But this standard is not
    exhaustive. It should not be read to exclude other means and
    measures that a court might undertake under criminal rule 14(a)(2).
    That rule speaks of the power of the court to “quash or modify” a
    subpoena “if compliance would be unreasonable.” 
    Id.
     (emphasis
    added). And the court may see a need to further modify or limit a
    subpoena on a case-by-case basis.
    IV. DISPOSITION
    ¶57 We now have only to dispose of the cases at issue. Applying
    the above standard, we reverse the Lopez court and affirm the Nielsen
    court.
    ¶58 In the Lopez case, the court denied the motion to quash on
    the basis of an essentially unfettered right to subpoena witnesses
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    18  Such a showing would be difficult, if not impossible, for
    example, where the grounds to be covered by the live witness could
    just as effectively be presented by other means.
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    under criminal rule 7B(a). That was error. We reverse that decision on
    the ground that Lopez made no attempt to show that additional, live
    testimony from the alleged victim was material to the probable-cause
    determination—let alone that there was no other way to present that
    evidence or that such testimony was reasonably likely to defeat the
    State’s prima facie showing of probable cause. Instead, he claimed that
    he did not need to justify the subpoena in any way—he was simply
    “entitled” to “find out some more of the details,” even if L.L.’s
    compelled testimony ultimately supported rather than undermined
    the State’s probable-cause showing. Because Lopez refused to explain
    why compelling L.L.’s testimony was necessary and reasonably likely
    to defeat the State’s prima facie showing of probable cause, we reverse
    the court’s denial of L.L.’s motion to quash.
    ¶59 We affirm the Nielsen court on similar grounds. Admittedly,
    the Nielsen court granted the State’s motion to quash A.N.’s subpoena
    at the start of the preliminary hearing, before the State had even
    presented its evidence. But when Nielsen objected, he did not name
    anything specific that he hoped A.N.’s testimony would provide. He
    just baldly asserted that he was entitled to “test the State’s evidence.”
    This point was further reinforced in a telephone conference in which
    Nielsen’s counsel openly acknowledged that “one of the difficult
    issues” in the case was that they did not know “precisely what [A.N.]
    would say.”
    ¶60 Nielsen’s all-or-nothing position—that he had “an
    unrestrained right” to call the alleged victim “as a witness at his
    preliminary hearing”—was wrong. And the magistrate was
    accordingly correct to grant the motion to quash under these
    circumstances. We affirm the decision in the Nielsen case on that
    limited basis, without any intent to influence any future bindover
    decision under the probable cause standard.
    V. CONCLUSION
    ¶61 These cases arise at the difficult intersection between the
    rights of defendants and the rights of alleged victims in preliminary
    hearings. We hold that any power a defendant has to compel a victim
    witness to testify at a preliminary hearing is limited by the court’s
    authority to quash unreasonable subpoenas. And we conclude that
    that reasonableness inquiry must be informed by the standards that
    govern preliminary hearings and the rights that our law guarantees
    for crime victims.
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