In re L.L. , 2019 UT App 134 ( 2019 )


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    2019 UT App 134
    THE UTAH COURT OF APPEALS
    STATE OF UTAH, IN THE INTEREST OF L.L.,
    A PERSON UNDER EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE.
    GUARDIAN AD LITEM,
    Appellant,
    v.
    STATE OF UTAH, B.W., S.L., AND
    UTE MOUNTAIN UTE TRIBE,
    Appellees.
    Opinion
    No. 20170659-CA
    Filed August 1, 2019
    Eighth District Juvenile Court, Vernal Department
    The Honorable Ryan B. Evershed
    No. 1128314
    Martha Pierce, Attorney for Appellant
    Sean D. Reyes, Carol L.C. Verdoia, and John M.
    Peterson, Attorneys for Appellee State of Utah
    Emily Adams and April Erin Bradley, Attorneys
    for Appellee B.W.
    Jeffry K. Ross, Attorney for Appellee S.L.
    Mark A. Flores, Attorney for Appellee
    Ute Mountain Ute Tribe
    JUDGE MICHELE M. CHRISTIANSEN FORSTER authored this Opinion,
    in which JUDGES DAVID N. MORTENSEN and RYAN M. HARRIS
    concurred.
    CHRISTIANSEN FORSTER, Judge:
    ¶1    Federal law requires that before a court can remove an
    Indian child from a parent’s custody, a “qualified expert
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    witness” must provide evidence that the “continued custody of
    the child by the parent . . . is likely to result in serious emotional
    or physical damage to the child.” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1912
    (e) (2012). The
    questions presented for our determination are what constitutes a
    “qualified expert witness” and whether a Utah court must apply
    the definition of that term provided by a federal agency.
    Specifically, the attorney guardian ad litem (the GAL) for an
    Indian child (Child) appeals the juvenile court’s order denying
    the GAL’s motion to transfer custody of Child and the court’s
    order terminating jurisdiction over Child’s status. The GAL
    contends that the juvenile court erred when it refused to
    consider certain of the GAL’s witnesses as “qualified expert
    witnesses” pursuant to the Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA). See
    
    id.
     The GAL faults the juvenile court for deferring to the United
    States Department of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affairs’ (the
    BIA) regulation interpreting the statutory term rather than
    employing its own interpretation. The GAL also argues that the
    juvenile court erred when it excluded certain expert witness
    testimony as privileged.
    ¶2     We conclude that while the juvenile court correctly
    looked to the BIA regulation to determine whether the GAL’s
    witnesses were qualified expert witnesses pursuant to ICWA,
    the juvenile court misapplied the regulation and exceeded its
    discretion in excluding the GAL’s witnesses and terminating
    jurisdiction over Child and her mother (Mother). We also
    conclude that the juvenile court erred in determining that the
    testimony of two of the GAL’s witnesses was subject to
    therapist–patient privilege. We therefore reverse and remand for
    further proceedings.
    BACKGROUND
    ¶3    Child is a three-year-old girl born in April 2016. She is an
    Indian child as defined by ICWA because she is eligible for
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    membership in the Ute Mountain Ute Tribe (the Tribe) and her
    biological parents are members of the Tribe. 1 See 
    25 U.S.C. § 1903
    (4) (2012). Child came into the custody of the Utah
    Division of Child and Family Services (DCFS) as a newborn
    because of Mother’s issues with alcohol and domestic violence.
    Mother has three older children whom the court also
    adjudicated as abused and neglected and who were removed
    from Mother’s care before Child was born. In November 2016,
    the juvenile court returned Child to Mother’s custody, with
    DCFS providing in-home protective services to Mother and
    Child.
    ¶4     Shortly thereafter, the juvenile court received letters
    from three therapists who had been involved with Mother
    and her children. The letters expressed the therapists’ concerns
    about Mother’s ability to safely parent Child. Consequently,
    in March 2017, the GAL moved to remove Child from Mother
    and return her to DCFS custody. In the motion, the GAL asserted
    that Mother continued to struggle with domestic violence
    issues and explained that all three therapists who had
    submitted letters to the court had concerns about Mother’s
    ability to parent Child safely because of Mother’s continued
    relationship with Child’s father, who had been convicted of
    abusing Mother’s older children. The GAL noted that DCFS was
    in the process of terminating reunification services for Mother
    and her three older children and considering changing their
    permanency goal to adoption, and asked the juvenile court to
    remove or transfer custody of Child because she was a sibling-at-
    risk.
    ¶5    The juvenile court set an evidentiary hearing on the
    GAL’s motion for June 27, 2017. In preparation for that hearing,
    the GAL designated as expert witnesses the three therapists who
    1. The Tribe intervened in the case in February 2017.
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    had previously submitted letters to the court. Prior to the
    hearing, Mother and the Tribe moved to strike the GAL’s motion
    to transfer custody, arguing that the GAL had failed to designate
    an expert witness who was qualified as required by ICWA and
    the BIA regulations; specifically, the GAL had failed to designate
    an expert who could testify about the prevailing social and
    cultural standards of the Tribe as required by the BIA
    regulations. 
    25 C.F.R. § 23.122
    (a) (2016). Mother and the Tribe
    also objected to the testimony of two of the therapists on the
    ground that Mother’s therapist–patient privilege rendered their
    testimony inadmissible.
    ¶6      The GAL argued that since ICWA does not explicitly
    define what qualifies a witness as an expert, the juvenile
    court had “discretion to determine whether a witness has
    adequate qualifications to provide the proffered testimony.”
    Although the three therapists were not qualified to testify
    regarding tribal cultural standards, the GAL asserted that the
    court was not bound by the BIA regulations and urged the court
    to qualify the therapists as expert witnesses anyway based on
    their qualification “to testify regarding whether the child’s
    continued custody by the parent . . . is likely to result in serious
    emotional or physical damage to the child,” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1912
    (e)
    (2012).
    ¶7     Following a hearing on the matter, the juvenile court
    agreed with Mother and the Tribe that because “qualified expert
    witness” is not defined by ICWA, the court should defer to and
    adopt the BIA’s interpretation of that term pursuant to the
    Chevron deference rule articulated by the United States Supreme
    Court, which requires courts to defer to federal agencies’
    interpretations of federal statutes under certain circumstances.
    See Chevron, U.S.A., Inc. v. Natural Res. Def. Council, Inc., 
    467 U.S. 837
    , 843–45 (1984). Accordingly, the juvenile court determined
    that the standard set forth in the BIA regulation precluded the
    court from qualifying any of the therapists as experts because
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    none of them were qualified to testify about the prevailing social
    and cultural standards of the Tribe. Based on this determination,
    the juvenile court dismissed the GAL’s motion to remove Child
    from Mother’s custody. The court closed Child’s case and
    terminated jurisdiction on August 3, 2017, and the GAL timely
    appealed.
    ISSUES AND STANDARDS OF REVIEW
    ¶8      The GAL asserts that the juvenile court erred in
    determining that the three therapists the GAL intended to call
    to support the motion to remove were not qualified expert
    witnesses because they could not testify regarding the Tribe’s
    social and cultural standards. The qualification of witnesses
    as experts is generally a discretionary decision for a trial court.
    See State v. Holm, 
    2006 UT 31
    , ¶ 89, 
    137 P.3d 726
    . But to
    properly exercise that discretion in an ICWA proceeding, the
    court must apply the correct legal standard. See Ross v. Epic
    Eng’g, PC, 
    2013 UT App 136
    , ¶ 11, 
    307 P.3d 576
    ; see also In re
    M.F., 
    225 P.3d 1177
    , 1183 (Kan. 2010) (explaining that in a child
    welfare case involving an Indian child, the legal standard for
    qualified expert witnesses is defined by ICWA). The juvenile
    court’s interpretation of ICWA’s requirements regarding
    qualified expert testimony presents a pure question of law to be
    reviewed de novo. See In re adoption of B.B., 
    2017 UT 59
    , ¶ 16, 
    417 P.3d 1
    .
    ¶9     The GAL further asserts that the juvenile court erred in
    determining that the therapists’ testimonies were subject to the
    therapist–patient privilege. “The existence of a privilege is a
    question of law for the court, which we review for correctness,
    giving no deference to the trial court’s determination.” Price v.
    Armour, 
    949 P.2d 1251
    , 1254 (Utah 1997).
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    ANALYSIS
    I. The Juvenile Court Correctly Deferred to the BIA’s
    Construction of the Phrase “Qualified Expert Witness” as Used
    in ICWA.
    A.     ICWA and the BIA
    ¶10 In a custody proceeding involving an Indian child, a state
    court must comply with ICWA. 2 That statute, passed in 1978,
    2. In general, the promulgation of child welfare procedures is a
    matter reserved to the states. See Elk Grove Unified School Dist. v.
    Newdow, 
    542 U.S. 1
    , 12 (2004) (“The whole subject of the
    domestic relations of husband and wife, parent and child,
    belongs to the laws of the States and not to the laws of the
    United States.” (quotation simplified)), abrogated on other grounds
    by Lexmark Int’l, Inc. v. Static Control Components, Inc., 
    572 U.S. 118
     (2014). While the mandates of ICWA are based on the federal
    government’s “plenary power over Indian affairs,” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1901
    (1) (2012), ICWA clearly contemplates that state courts will
    adjudicate child custody cases involving Indian children, see 
    id.
    § 1911. So long as the core intent of ICWA is preserved—
    providing procedural and substantive protections such as the
    right to counsel, notice to the tribes, rehabilitative services, a
    procedure to invalidate illegal proceedings, and imposing high
    standards of proof—the underlying procedural framework for
    child custody cases has been left to the states, even in cases
    involving Indian children. See In re adoption of A.B., 
    2010 UT 55
    ,
    ¶ 32, 
    245 P.3d 711
    ; In re C.D., 
    2008 UT App 477
    , ¶ 14, 
    200 P.3d 194
    . The Utah Supreme Court has determined that in passing
    ICWA, Congress did not intend to preempt state child welfare
    law, In re adoption of A.B., 
    2010 UT 55
    , ¶ 30, but ICWA does
    provide that “[i]n any case where State or Federal law applicable
    to a child custody proceeding . . . provides a higher standard of
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    reflects a national purpose “to protect the best interests of Indian
    children and to promote the stability and security of Indian
    tribes and families.” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1902
     (2012); see also In re adoption
    of A.B., 
    2010 UT 55
    , ¶¶ 32, 36, 
    245 P.3d 711
    . The act seeks to
    accomplish this purpose by imposing “minimum Federal
    standards for the removal of Indian children from their families
    and the placement of such children in foster or adoptive homes
    which will reflect the unique values of Indian culture.” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1902
    ; see also In re adoption of A.B., 
    2010 UT 55
    , ¶ 36. In passing
    ICWA, Congress wanted to ensure that Indian child-welfare
    determinations were not based on “a white, middle-class
    standard which, in many cases, forecloses placement with an
    Indian family.” Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians v. Holyfield,
    
    490 U.S. 30
    , 37 (1989) (quotation simplified) (citing H.R. Rep. No.
    95-1386, at 24 (1978)). Congress recognized “that state law was
    inappropriately addressing the removal and placement of Indian
    children,” In re C.D., 
    2008 UT App 477
    , ¶ 14, 
    200 P.3d 194
    , by
    “fail[ing] to recognize the essential tribal relations of Indian
    people and the cultural and social standards prevailing in Indian
    communities and families,” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1901
    (5) (2012). 3
    (…continued)
    protection to the rights of the parent . . . of an Indian child than
    the rights provided under this subchapter, the State . . . shall
    apply the [higher] standard,” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1921
     (2012). This is to
    ensure “that parents of Indian children enjoy the highest level of
    protection of their parental rights available.” In re adoption of
    B.B., 
    2017 UT 59
    , ¶ 67, 
    417 P.3d 1
    ; see also 
    25 U.S.C. § 1921
    .
    3. ICWA is clearly concerned with the best interests of the
    “Indian child,” but the phrase “best interests of Indian children”
    in the context of ICWA is necessarily more involved than the
    general “best interests of the child” standard applicable in child
    welfare cases involving non-Indian children. Under any analysis,
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    ¶11 As part of its efforts to advance these interests, ICWA
    requires that any foster care placement of an Indian child be
    “supported by clear and convincing evidence, including testimony
    of qualified expert witnesses, that the continued custody of the
    child by the parent . . . is likely to result in serious emotional or
    physical damage to the child.” 
    Id.
     § 1912(e) (emphasis added).
    But the phrase “qualified expert witness” is not defined by
    ICWA, and when the juvenile court was asked to examine the
    provision, it found it to be ambiguous. The juvenile court
    therefore looked to the BIA—the executive agency tasked with
    promulgating rules and regulations to carry out ICWA’s
    provisions, id. § 1952; see infra note 4—for guidance. The BIA’s
    2016 Regulations define “qualified expert witness” as follows: “a
    qualified expert witness must be qualified to testify regarding
    whether the child’s continued custody by the parent . . . is likely
    to result in serious emotional or physical damage to the child
    and should be qualified to testify as to the prevailing social and
    cultural standards of the Indian child’s Tribe.” 
    25 C.F.R. § 23.122
    (a) (2016); see also Indian Child Welfare Act Proceedings
    Final Rule (Final Rule), 
    81 Fed. Reg. 38,777
    , 38,829 (June 14, 2016)
    (“The qualified expert witness should have specific knowledge
    of the prevailing social and cultural standards of the Indian
    child’s Tribe . . . . The question of whether the continued custody
    of the child by the parent or Indian custodian is likely to result in
    (…continued)
    a child’s physical and emotional health must be paramount. But
    under ICWA, there is an additional presumption that it is in the
    best interests of the “Indian child” to maintain ties with the
    Indian tribe, Indian culture, and Indian family. See Mississippi
    Band of Choctaw Indians v. Holyfield, 
    490 U.S. 30
    , 50 n.24 (1989)
    (“[ICWA] is based on the fundamental assumption that it is in
    the Indian child’s best interest that its relationship to the tribe be
    protected.” (quotation simplified)).
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    serious emotional or physical damage to the child is one that
    should be examined in the context of the prevailing cultural and
    social standards of the Indian child’s Tribe.”); 1979 Guidelines,
    
    44 Fed. Reg. 67,584
    , 67,593 (Nov. 26, 1979) (explaining that
    “knowledge of tribal culture and childrearing practices will
    frequently be very valuable to the court” in determining the
    likely impact of parental custody under the standards of ICWA
    because “[s]pecific behavior patterns will often need to be placed
    in the context of the total culture to determine whether they are
    likely to cause serious emotional harm”). We now turn to the
    question of whether the juvenile court correctly deferred to the
    BIA regulation to determine whether the GAL’s witnesses
    qualified as experts pursuant to ICWA.
    B.    In Interpreting Ambiguous Provisions of a Federal
    Statute, We Are Bound by the Chevron Deference
    Doctrine.
    ¶12 When interpreting a statute, a court’s “primary goal is to
    evince the true intent and purpose” of the legislative body.
    Marion Energy, Inc. v. KFJ Ranch P’ship, 
    2011 UT 50
    , ¶ 14, 
    267 P.3d 863
     (quotation simplified). The best evidence of legislative intent
    is “the plain and ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms.” Rent-
    A-Center West, Inc. v. Utah State Tax Comm’n, 
    2016 UT 1
    , ¶ 13, 
    367 P.3d 989
    . A statute draws its meaning from its text, but when a
    genuine ambiguity appears, it is usually up to the courts to
    resolve the ambiguity by “resort[ing] to other modes of statutory
    construction,” such as “seek[ing] guidance from legislative
    history and other accepted sources” or employing “unique
    rules” to “guide our construction of ambiguous terms” in
    “specific contexts.” Marion, 
    2011 UT 50
    , ¶ 15 (quotation
    simplified).
    ¶13 One of these unique rules requires courts to grant
    deference to a federal administrative agency’s interpretation of a
    federal statute when it appears that Congress has left “gaps” in
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    the legislation for the agency to fill. See Chevron, U.S.A., Inc. v.
    Natural Res. Def. Council, Inc., 
    467 U.S. 837
    , 843 (1984). “The court
    does not simply impose its own construction on the statute, as
    would be necessary in the absence of an administrative
    interpretation.” Federal Nat’l Mortgage Ass’n v. Sundquist
    (Sundquist I), 
    2013 UT 45
    , ¶ 19, 
    311 P.3d 1004
     (quotation
    simplified); see also Bank of Am., NA v. Sundquist (Sundquist II),
    
    2018 UT 58
    , ¶¶ 23–24, 
    430 P.3d 623
    . “Rather, if the statute is
    silent or ambiguous with respect to the specific issue, the
    question for the court is whether the agency’s answer is based on
    a permissible construction of the statute.” Chevron, 
    467 U.S. at 843
    ; see also Sundquist II, 
    2018 UT 58
    , ¶ 45. That is, although the
    judiciary is the final authority on issues of statutory
    construction, if a federal statute is not clear, our courts “have
    long recognized that considerable weight should be accorded to
    an executive department’s construction of a statutory scheme it
    is entrusted to administer, and the principle of deference to
    administrative interpretations.” Chevron, 
    467 U.S. at 844
    ;
    Sundquist II, 
    2018 UT 58
    , ¶ 24. This principle is commonly
    known as the Chevron deference doctrine.
    ¶14 To the juvenile court below and on appeal in this court,
    the GAL argued that our supreme court had repudiated any of
    its prior precedent that supports deference to a federal
    administrative agency’s interpretation of a federal statute
    pursuant to the Chevron deference doctrine. See Outfront Media,
    LLC v. Salt Lake City Corp., 
    2017 UT 74
    , ¶ 12 n.13, 
    416 P.3d 389
    ;
    Ellis-Hall Consultants v. Public Service Comm’n, 
    2016 UT 34
    , ¶ 33,
    
    379 P.3d 1270
    ; Hughes Gen. Contractors, Inc. v. Utah Labor Comm’n,
    
    2014 UT 3
    , ¶ 25, 
    322 P.3d 712
    ; Sundquist I, 
    2013 UT 45
    , ¶ 40;
    Murray v. Utah Labor Comm’n, 
    2013 UT 38
    , ¶ 29, 
    308 P.3d 461
    .
    However, while this case was pending on appeal, the Utah
    Supreme Court issued a decision in Sundquist II, 
    2018 UT 58
    ,
    wherein the court overruled its 2013 decision in Sundquist I and
    held that while the court has declined to employ Chevron-like
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    deference when reviewing a state agency’s interpretation of a
    state statute or regulation, or a state agency’s interpretation of a
    federal statute, see Hughes Gen. Contractors, 
    2014 UT 3
    , ¶ 25, our
    courts must still defer to a federal administrative agency’s
    interpretation of an ambiguous federal statute. See Sundquist II,
    
    2018 UT 58
    , ¶¶ 21–24. Therefore, because the BIA is a federal
    administrative agency and ICWA is a federal statute, we must
    employ the principles articulated in Chevron to determine
    whether the BIA’s 2016 regulation defining “qualified expert
    witness” is entitled to deference.
    C.     The BIA’s Definition of the Term “Qualified Expert
    Witness” Is Entitled to Chevron Deference.
    ¶15 When a federal agency’s interpretation of a federal statute
    “places us in the shadow of Chevron,” we must “pass through a
    series of analytical gates.” 
    Id.
     ¶¶ 21–22. First, we must determine
    whether the provision is ambiguous. “If the intent of Congress is
    clear, that is the end of the matter; for the court, as well as the
    agency, must give effect to the unambiguously expressed intent
    of Congress.” Chevron, 
    467 U.S. at
    842–43. If we determine that
    “the statute is silent or ambiguous with respect to the specific
    issue,” Sundquist II, 
    2018 UT 58
    , ¶ 45 (quotation simplified), then
    we must consider “whether Congress intended to delegate
    authority to the [agency] to weigh in on the issue,” id. ¶ 22, and,
    if so, whether the agency’s interpretation “is based on a
    permissible construction of the statute,” Chevron, 
    467 U.S. at 843
    .
    If we determine that the agency has authority and that its
    construction is reasonable, then the agency’s interpretation is
    entitled to deference. See 
    id.
     at 843–45.
    1.     The Term “Qualified Expert Witness” as Used in ICWA Is
    Ambiguous.
    ¶16 ICWA does not define the term “qualified expert
    witness.” While “expert witness” is a standard term that is
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    defined by reference to state and federal law, the word
    “qualified” is not so easily defined. The use of the extra word
    “qualified” in the statute indicates that Congress intended to
    give that word separate meaning and to require that an “expert”
    be possessed of an extra set of qualifications beyond traditional
    expertise. But ICWA is silent as to what those qualifications are.
    Because the statute does not unambiguously address the
    question, we must “rely on other tools of statutory
    interpretation,” see Sundquist II, 
    2018 UT 58
    , ¶ 37, beginning with
    an examination of the BIA’s interpretation.
    2.    Congress Has Granted the BIA the Authority to Interpret
    ICWA.
    ¶17 When ICWA was enacted, the statute instructed the
    Department of the Interior as follows: “Within one hundred and
    eighty days after November 8, 1978, the Secretary shall
    promulgate such rules and regulations as may be necessary to
    carry out the provisions of this chapter.” 
    25 U.S.C. § 1952
     (2012).
    This express grant of rulemaking authority gives the BIA broad
    discretion to interpret and implement ICWA. 4 The BIA’s
    4. Immediately following the passage of ICWA, in 1979, the BIA
    issued guidelines representing the BIA’s interpretation of ICWA
    and providing procedures designed to “help assure that rights
    guaranteed by [ICWA] are protected when state courts decide
    Indian child custody matters,” Guidelines for State Courts in
    Indian Child Custody Proceedings (1979 Guidelines), 
    44 Fed. Reg. 67,584
     (Nov. 26, 1979). In the course of the notice-and-
    comment period for the 1979 Guidelines, “[s]everal commenters
    remarked . . . that the Department [of the Interior] had the
    authority to issue regulations and should do so.” Final Rule, 
    81 Fed. Reg. 38,777
    , 38,784 (June 14, 2016). Nevertheless, “[t]he
    Department declined to issue regulations” at that time, 
    id.,
     and
    made it clear in its introduction to the 1979 Guidelines that they
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    (…continued)
    were not intended to have binding legislative effect and were
    issued primarily to assist state courts in their implementation of
    ICWA, see 1979 Guidelines, 44 Fed. Reg. at 67,584. The BIA
    explained that while “[p]ortions of [ICWA] do expressly
    delegate to the Secretary of the Interior responsibility for
    interpreting statutory language[,] . . . [p]rimary responsibility for
    interpreting other language used in the Act . . . rests with the
    courts that decide Indian child custody cases.” Id.
    In 2015, because of inconsistent implementation
    and interpretation of ICWA among the states and the fact
    that Indian children were still found in child-welfare
    proceedings at twice the rate of the general population, the
    BIA determined that it would be appropriate and necessary to
    promulgate additional and updated guidelines interpreting
    ICWA and provide uniform standards for state courts.
    See generally Jason R. Williams et al., Casey Family Programs,
    Indian     Child     Welfare    Act:      Measuring     Compliance
    (2015),      http://www.casey.org/media/measuring-compliance-
    icwa.pdf [https://perma.cc/93J8-DADU]. Accordingly, the BIA
    updated its guidelines and explained that the new 2015
    Guidelines were intended to “promote compliance with ICWA’s
    stated goals and provisions by providing a framework for State
    courts and child welfare agencies to follow.” Guidelines for State
    Courts and Agencies in Indian Child Custody Proceedings, 
    80 Fed. Reg. 10146
    –47 (Feb. 25, 2015).
    Again, in the course of the notice-and-comment period,
    “[m]any commenters on the 2015 Guidelines requested not only
    that the Department update its ICWA guidelines but that the
    Department also issue binding regulations addressing the
    requirements and standards that ICWA provides for State-court
    child-custody proceedings.” Final Rule, 81 Fed. Reg. at 38,784. In
    response to this commentary, the BIA “began a notice-and-
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    (…continued)
    comment process to promulgate formal ICWA regulations.” Id.;
    see also Regulations for State Courts and Agencies in Indian
    Child Custody Proceedings (Proposed Regulations), 
    80 Fed. Reg. 14,880
     (March 30, 2015).
    A final rule promulgating binding regulations was issued
    by the BIA in 2016, along with a new set of nonbinding
    guidelines to replace both the 1979 and 2015 Guidelines. See
    Final Rule, 
    81 Fed. Reg. 38,777
    ; U.S. Dep’t of Interior, Office of
    the Assistant Secretary-Indian Affairs, Bureau of Indian Affairs,
    Guidelines for Implementing the Indian Child Welfare Act, 4–6 (2016),
    https://www.bia.gov/sites/bia.gov/files/assets/bia/ois/pdf/idc2-05
    6831.pdf [https://perma.cc/9KUE-23QU]. In its introduction to
    the 2016 Regulations, the BIA repudiated the opinion expressed
    in its 1979 Guidelines suggesting that it lacked the authority to
    promulgate binding regulations. See Final Rule, 81 Fed. Reg. at
    38,786. The BIA observed that the jurisprudence that has
    developed in the intervening years since the 1979 Guidelines
    were issued, both with respect to ICWA specifically and to the
    authority of federal agencies generally, indicates that Congress
    intended to grant the BIA authority to issue binding regulations
    interpreting ICWA. For example, in Mississippi Band of Choctaw
    Indians v. Holyfield, 
    490 U.S. 30
     (1989), the Supreme Court
    considered whether Congress intended the definition of
    “domicile” to be left to the interpretation of individual states or
    whether it should be interpreted uniformly. See 
    id. at 43
    . The
    Court concluded that Congress intended ICWA to have
    “nationwide uniformity” with respect to the definition of
    “critical term[s].” 
    Id.
     at 44–45. Relying on this jurisprudence, the
    BIA concluded that Congress intended to grant it the authority
    to promulgate binding regulations to ensure uniform
    interpretation and application of important ICWA provisions.
    See Final Rule, 81 Fed. Reg. at 38,787–88. The BIA also observed
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    (…continued)
    that “grants of rulemaking authority” similar to that granted to
    the Department of the Interior by section 1952 of ICWA “have
    been held to presumptively authorize agencies to issue rules and
    regulations addressing matters covered by the statute unless
    there is clear congressional intent to withhold authority in a
    particular area.” Final Rule, 81 Fed. Reg. at 38,785. Relying on
    such cases, the BIA concluded that ICWA’s “grant of rulemaking
    authority is broad and inclusive,” encompassing the authority to
    issue binding regulations. Id.
    An agency’s assessment of its own rulemaking authority
    is not binding. See United States v. Haggar Apparel Co., 
    526 U.S. 380
    , 387–89 (1999) (determining that the Customs Service’s
    statement that it considered its regulatory authority to be limited
    “does not suffice to displace the usual rule of Chevron deference”
    and that the agency’s use of the notice-and-comment process, in
    conjunction with a broad grant of authority to the Secretary of
    the Treasury to “establish and promulgate” necessary “rules and
    regulations,” demanded judicial deference absent express
    language limiting the Customs Service’s authority (quotation
    simplified)). Nevertheless, the BIA’s careful examination of its
    authority under ICWA is persuasive. ICWA’s express instruction
    that “the Secretary shall promulgate such rules and regulations
    as may be necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter,”
    
    25 U.S.C. § 1952
     (emphasis added), is similar to other grants of
    rulemaking authority that have been afforded Chevron deference,
    see City of Arlington v. FCC, 
    569 U.S. 290
    , 306 (2013) (observing
    the absence of “a single case in which a general conferral of
    rulemaking or adjudicative authority has been held insufficient
    to support Chevron deference for an exercise of that authority
    within the agency’s substantive field”); see also National Cable
    & Telecomms. Ass’n v. Brand X Internet Services, 
    545 U.S. 967
    , 980–
    81 (2005) (explaining that where an agency issues a regulation
    (continued…)
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    definition of “qualified expert witness” was promulgated in
    accordance with the rulemaking power granted to it by ICWA,
    see 
    25 U.S.C. § 1952
    , and “the agency utilized the notice-and-
    comment rulemaking process before issuing the regulations,” see
    United States v. Haggar Apparel Co., 
    526 U.S. 380
    , 390 (1999); see
    also United States v. Mead Corp., 
    533 U.S. 218
    , 226–27 (2001)
    (stating that notice-and-comment rulemaking is an indicator of
    authority entitled to Chevron deference). See generally Proposed
    Regulations, 
    80 Fed. Reg. 14,880
     (March 20, 2015). Thus, it is
    apparent that the BIA’s regulation defining “qualified expert
    witness” fell within the scope of its congressionally granted
    authority.
    3.     The BIA’s Definition of “Qualified Expert Witness” Is a
    Permissible Construction of That Term.
    ¶18 Finally, we must decide whether the juvenile court
    correctly determined that the BIA’s definition of “qualified
    (…continued)
    “in the exercise of [its] authority” to “promulgate binding legal
    rules,” there is “no . . . question[]” that the regulation is within
    the agency’s jurisdiction and it is therefore entitled to Chevron
    deference); United States v. Mead Corp., 
    533 U.S. 218
    , 229 (2001)
    (explaining that “express congressional authorization[] to
    engage in the process of rulemaking or adjudication that
    produces regulations or rulings” is “a very good indicator of
    delegation meriting Chevron treatment”). Further, the need for
    binding regulations is apparent in light of ICWA’s purpose to
    resolve the historical problem of states failing “to recognize the
    essential tribal relations of Indian people and the cultural and
    social standards prevailing in Indian communities and families.”
    
    25 U.S.C. § 1901
    (5). Thus, we agree with the BIA that, in spite of
    its 1979 indication to the contrary, it has the authority to
    promulgate binding regulations interpreting ICWA.
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    expert witness” is a permissible construction of ICWA. The
    regulation states that a “qualified expert witness must be
    qualified to testify regarding whether the child’s continued
    custody by the parent . . . is likely to result in serious emotional
    or physical damage to the child and should be qualified to testify
    as to the prevailing social and cultural standards of the Indian
    child’s Tribe.” 
    25 C.F.R. § 23.122
    (a) (2016). Determining that a
    “qualified expert witness” “should be qualified to testify as to
    the prevailing social and cultural standards of the Indian child’s
    Tribe” is consistent with Congressional intent and is reasonable.
    The purpose of promulgating ICWA in the first place is stated in
    the statute: “States . . . have often failed to recognize the essential
    tribal relations of Indian people and the cultural and social
    standards prevailing in Indian communities and families.” 25
    U.S.C § 1901(5). Consequently, “an alarmingly high percentage
    of Indian families are broken up by the removal, often
    unwarranted, of their children from them.” Id. § 1901(4). The
    BIA’s determination that a qualified expert should be prepared
    to testify regarding the prevailing social and cultural standards
    of the relevant Tribe certainly helps ensure that Indian children
    will not be removed from their homes based on “a white,
    middle-class standard.” Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians v.
    Holyfield, 
    490 U.S. 30
    , 37 (1989) (quotation simplified).
    ¶19 In addition, defining “qualified expert witness” as a
    witness capable of testifying about the relevant Tribe’s social and
    cultural standards seems entirely reasonable. A state court’s
    traditional custody concerns regarding serious emotional or
    physical damage to the child may be different in the context of
    an Indian family. “In many ICWA cases, expert testimony may
    be necessary to educate a court about tribal customs and
    childrearing practices to diminish any risk of cultural bias.”
    Steven H. v. Arizona Dep’t of Econ. Sec., 
    190 P.3d 180
    , 185 (Ariz.
    2008) (en banc); see also Marcia V. v. State, 
    201 P.3d 496
    , 504
    (Alaska 2009) (“Congress intended ICWA to prevent Native
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    children from being separated from their families solely on the
    basis of testimony from social workers who were unable to
    distinguish between cultural variations in child-rearing practices
    and actual abuse or neglect.” (quotation simplified)).
    Accordingly, it is not unreasonable to require expert testimony
    presented to a court to reflect and be informed by the cultural
    and social standards of the relevant Indian tribe. Because the
    BIA’s definition is reasonable, it is entitled to deference under
    Chevron. See Chevron, 
    467 U.S. at
    843–45. Thus the juvenile court
    did not err in determining that the regulation was binding.
    II. The Juvenile Court Misapplied the BIA’s Regulation in
    Considering the GAL’s Motion to Transfer Custody and
    Exceeded Its Discretion When It Excluded the GAL’s Witnesses
    Without Considering Their Qualifications.
    ¶20 While the juvenile court was right to defer to the BIA’s
    definition of “qualified expert witness” contained in the federal
    regulation, the court erred in summarily denying the GAL’s
    motion to transfer custody of Child purely on the basis that the
    GAL did not produce a witness who could testify about the
    prevailing social and cultural standards of Child’s Tribe.
    ¶21 The BIA’s definition contained in the 2016 Regulations
    states that while a “qualified expert witness must be qualified to
    testify regarding whether the child’s continued custody by the
    parent . . . is likely to result in serious emotional or physical
    damage to the child,” the witness “should be qualified to testify as
    to the prevailing social and cultural standards of the Indian
    child’s Tribe.” 
    25 C.F.R. § 23.122
    (a) (2016) (emphases added). The
    second part of the definition, pertaining to the witness’s
    qualification to testify regarding tribal social and cultural
    standards, uses the phrase “should be” rather than “must be.” It
    therefore grants state courts discretion to determine whether this
    type of qualification is “necessary in any particular case.” See
    Final Rule, 
    81 Fed. Reg. 38,777
    , 38,830 (June 14, 2016). In issuing
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    the 2016 Regulations, the BIA explained its intent in making this
    portion of the regulation discretionary:
    The final rule does not . . . strictly limit who may
    serve as a qualified expert witness to only those
    individuals who have particular Tribal social and
    cultural knowledge. The Department recognizes
    that there may be certain circumstances where a
    qualified expert witness need not have specific
    knowledge of the prevailing social and cultural
    standards of the Indian child’s Tribe in order to
    meet the statutory standard. For example, a
    leading expert on issues regarding sexual abuse of
    children may not need to know about specific
    Tribal social and cultural standards in order to
    testify as a qualified expert witness regarding
    whether return of a child to a parent who has a
    history of sexually abusing the child is likely to
    result in serious emotional or physical damage to
    the child. Thus, while a qualified expert witness
    should normally be required to have knowledge of
    Tribal social and cultural standards, that may not
    be necessary if such knowledge is plainly
    irrelevant to the particular circumstances at issue
    in the proceeding.
    Id. at 38,829–30 (citation omitted). This approach is consistent
    with the body of case law that developed on this issue prior to
    the enactment of the 2016 Regulations. See, e.g., Rachelle S. v.
    Arizona Dep’t of Econ. Sec., 
    958 P.2d 459
    , 461–62 (Ariz. Ct. App.
    1998) (collecting cases).
    ¶22     Thus, while it will generally be important for a qualified
    expert witness to have knowledge of tribal social and cultural
    standards, such specialized knowledge may not be necessary if
    tribal cultural standards are plainly irrelevant to the particular
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    circumstances at issue. “In such a situation, a professional
    person with substantial education and experience in the area of
    his or her specialty may be a qualified expert witness, depending
    upon the basis urged for removal.” Steven H. v. Arizona Dep’t of
    Econ. Sec., 
    190 P.3d 180
    , 185 (Ariz. 2008) (en banc) (quotation
    simplified); see also, e.g., In re Candace A., 
    332 P.3d 578
    , 584
    (Alaska 2014) (“When the basis for termination is unrelated to
    [Indian] culture and society and when any lack of familiarity
    with cultural mores will not influence the termination decision
    or implicate cultural bias in the termination proceeding, the
    qualifications of an expert testifying under ICWA § 1912(f) need
    not include familiarity with [Indian] culture.” (quotation
    simplified)); Rachelle S., 
    958 P.2d at
    461–62 (holding that a
    medical expert on “shaken-baby syndrome” who lacked
    specialized knowledge of Indian culture satisfied ICWA’s
    criteria for expert testimony when the Indian parents were
    accused of child abuse).
    ¶23 The juvenile court determined that the GAL’s witnesses
    were not qualified as expert witnesses under ICWA solely
    because they lacked expertise in and could not testify about the
    Tribe’s culture. However, the GAL’s purported basis for moving
    to remove Child from Mother’s care may not have been
    influenced by cultural bias. Rather, the GAL sought removal
    based on the potential risk to Child arising from Mother’s
    continued relationship with the person who had been convicted
    of abusing Child’s older siblings. This may well be the type of
    situation that prompted the BIA to give discretion to state courts
    to determine the necessity of qualified expert testimony
    regarding tribal cultural standards in each particular case. Thus,
    the juvenile court erred in dismissing the case without
    considering whether this was the sort of case in which the
    claimed reasons for removal were unrelated to tribal customs
    and culture. Accordingly, we reverse the court’s exclusion of the
    GAL’s witnesses and remand for further proceedings, in which
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    the juvenile court should assess whether the GAL’s expert
    witnesses should be allowed to testify.
    III. The Juvenile Court Erred in Determining That Two of the
    Therapists Could Be Precluded from Testifying by Therapist–
    Patient Privilege.
    ¶24 The GAL also challenges the juvenile court’s
    determination that Mother’s communications with her
    individual therapist and the family therapist were privileged
    pursuant to rule 506 of the Utah Rules of Evidence. 5 The GAL
    5. The juvenile court’s ruling on this issue is curious. The June
    27, 2017 minute order states, “Court finds Mother would have
    privilege with [Mother’s therapist] and [family therapist]
    according to Objection 506.” However, the discussion of the
    therapist–patient privilege at the hearing appears to have been
    overshadowed by the ICWA issue. Regarding privilege with
    respect to Mother’s therapist, the court stated, almost
    conversationally mid-discussion, “All right, so mom would have
    a privilege according to rule 506 for at least [Mother’s
    therapist].” The court then heard additional argument regarding
    the privilege before concluding, “I think it’s clear that there may
    be at least some testimony from some of the counselors . . . if it is
    relevant testimony. I guess, the hurdle we would need to get
    over before that, is to determine whether they are, or whether we
    have a qualified expert witness pursuant to ICWA . . . .” So from
    the oral ruling, the court seems to have neglected the issue of
    privilege due to its ultimate determination that the therapists
    were not qualified experts under ICWA. Yet the court’s written
    minute order states that the privilege existed. Given that the
    juvenile court appears to have focused less on this issue in its
    order than the expert witness issues, it is possible that further
    briefing and/or argument relevant to the asserted privilege may
    be appropriate on remand.
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    asserts that the testimony was not privileged, because the
    therapy was court-ordered and intended to address Mother’s
    parenting deficits that were directly at issue in the proceedings,
    and because Mother waived any claim of privilege by failing to
    object to the therapists’ letters at previous hearings. Appellees
    do not dispute this assertion on appeal but maintain that any
    error was harmless because the therapists were ultimately not
    qualified as experts under ICWA. Because we have determined
    that the juvenile court erred in rejecting, pursuant to ICWA, the
    testimony of the GAL’s proposed expert witnesses, Appellees’
    harmlessness assertion is without merit.
    ¶25 Moreover, we agree with the GAL that the testimony of
    the therapists was not subject to therapist–patient privilege.
    Under rule 506(d) of the Utah Rules of Evidence,
    communications that are “relevant to an issue of the physical,
    mental, or emotional condition of the patient . . . in any
    proceedings in which any party relies upon the condition as an
    element of the claim or defense” are not subject to therapist–
    patient privilege. Utah R. Evid. 506(d). The therapy at issue here
    was court-ordered for the purpose of addressing the concerns
    that brought Child and her siblings under the jurisdiction of the
    court. Mother’s ability to safely parent Child was directly at
    issue in the hearing on the GAL’s motion for removal and was
    the subject of the therapists’ testimonies. Thus, we can see no
    basis for concluding that the testimony of the therapists was
    subject to therapist–patient privilege, and Appellees have
    pointed us to none.
    ¶26 Further, as the GAL has pointed out, when a patient “is in
    the position to claim the privilege and does not, it is waived.”
    State v. Anderson, 
    972 P.2d 86
    , 90 (Utah Ct. App. 1998) (quotation
    simplified). The therapists’ letters were disclosed at two hearings
    prior to the hearing on the GAL’s motion to remove Child from
    Mother’s custody. Because Mother failed to object to the
    disclosures when they were first made, she waived her right to
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    do so at the subsequent hearing. Accordingly, we reverse the
    court’s determination that Mother could assert therapist–patient
    privilege to exclude the testimony of Mother’s therapist and the
    family therapist.
    CONCLUSION
    ¶27 Although the juvenile court correctly applied Chevron
    deference to the BIA’s interpretation of ICWA, it did not
    correctly apply the regulation, because it rejected the GAL’s
    experts solely on the ground that they were not qualified to
    testify regarding the Tribe’s cultural standards without
    considering whether those standards had any actual bearing on
    the proposed grounds for removal. Further, the juvenile court
    erred in determining that Mother could claim therapist–patient
    privilege with respect to testimony from her therapist and the
    family therapist. We therefore reverse the juvenile court’s
    decision and remand for further proceedings consistent with this
    opinion.
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