In Re Dependency Of : A.m-s., Dob: 12/17/08, Sergio Michel-garcia, Pet v. State Of Wa, Resp ( 2019 )


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  •         IN THE COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE STATE OF WASHINGTON
    In the Matter of the Dependency of                  )          No. 79364-1-I
    )          (consolidated with Nos.
    A.M.-S., DOB: 12/17/08.                             )          79365-9 & 79366-7)
    )
    SERGIO MICHEL-GARCIA,                               )          DIVISION ONE
    Petitioner,                  )
    )          PUBLISHED OPINION
    v.
    STATE OF WASHINGTON,                                )
    )
    Respondent.                  )          FILED: December 16, 2019
    ANDRUS, J.    —   Sergio Michel-Garcia, the father of A.M.-S., appeals a trial
    court order denying his request for derivative use immunity for statements he has
    made or may make during a psychological evaluation or any other court-ordered
    services during this dependency proceeding. We conclude the trial court does not
    have the inherent authority to grant Michel-Garcia derivative use immunity and
    therefore affirm.
    FACTS
    In May 2018, the Department of Social and Health Services’ filed a
    dependency petition on behalf of 10-year-old A.M.-S., alleging that the child’s
    1 Effective July 1, 2018, the newly created Department of Children, Youth, and Families
    (DCYF) took over child welfare duties that were formerly the responsibility of the Department of
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    mother2 and father, Sergio Michel-Garcia, had physically abused A.M.-S. and three
    other children living in the home. The Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office opened
    a criminal investigation into the alleged abuse.
    The parents agreed to the entry of a shelter care order removing the
    children from their home in May 2018, and an order finding the children dependent
    in August 2018.~ Michel-Garcia denied the allegations of abuse, but “given the
    nature of the allegations and the possibility of criminal charges, the father agree[d]
    that he [wa}s unable to care for the child at this time and admit[ted] that if this
    matter proceeded to a [f]act-[f]inding hearing, the Department would more likely
    than not prove that the child [wa]s dependent by a preponderance of the evidence.”
    He stipulated to a finding under RCW 13.34.030(6)(b)4 that “the child is abused or
    neglected      as    defined     in   Chapter 26.44        RCW,”      and     a   finding     under
    RCW I 3.34.030(6)(c) that the child had no parent capable of adequately caring for
    the child.
    Michel-Garcia also acknowledged that the services listed in section 4.5 of
    the order “would be required in order to reunite him with his child.” One of the
    services listed, and in which he agreed and the court ordered him to participate,
    was a psychological evaluation with a parenting component. The court reserved
    on whether to order Michel-Garcia to undergo other services that the Department
    Social and Health Services (DSHS). RCW 43.216.906. This opinion references the Department
    to mean DSHS before July 1,2018, and DCYF after July 1,2018.
    2 A.M.-S.’s mother has not participated in this appeal, and for that reason, we will refer to
    her only by her status, rather than by name.
    ~ Under RCW 13.34.110(3), a parent may stipulate to the entry of an order of dependency
    and an order of disposition under RCW 13.34.130, subject to the approval of the court.
    ~ RCW 13.34.030(6) provides four definitions for a “dependent child.”
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    requested—namely, a domestic violence assessment and an anger management
    assessment.
    In September 2018, Michel-Garcia asked the court to grant him use and
    derivative use immunity, under State v. Decker,5 for any statements he made or
    information he provided in any services ordered by the dependency court. The
    Department notified the Snohomish County Prosecuting Attorney’s Office of the
    father’s immunity request, and the Prosecuting Attorney objected to a judicial grant
    of immunity broader than that statutorily authorized under RCW 26.44.053.6 The
    Prosecuting Attorney argued that Michel-Garcia’s Fifth Amendment right against
    self-incrimination could be adequately protected during any evaluation by this grant
    of statutory use immunity and the presence of counsel.
    The dependency court denied Michel-Garcia’s request for derivative use
    immunity. The court found that with a criminal investigation pending against him,
    Michel-Garcia voluntarily agreed to engage in psychological evaluations but
    wished to do so without waiving any Fifth Amendment rights. It also found that
    “[t]he custom in our juvenile court historically is to grant Decker motions [for
    immunity] if unopposed.” It found no case law directly on point on the issue of
    whether a parent should be granted Decker immunity in a dependency case so he
    can engage in evaluations and treatment.
    ~ 
    68 Wash. App. 246
    , 
    842 P.2d 500
    (1992).
    6 The statute provides, in pertinent part, that [n]o information given at any. examination
    .   .
    of the parent or any other person having custody of the child may be used against such person in
    any subsequent criminal proceedings against such person or custodian concerning the alleged
    abuse or neglect of the child.” RCW 26.44.053(2).
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    The court analyzed two cases on which Michel-Garcia relied—In re
    Dependency of Q.L.M., 
    105 Wash. App. 532
    , 
    20 P.3d 465
    (2001), and In re
    Dependency of J.R.U.-S., 
    126 Wash. App. 786
    , 
    110 P.3d 773
    (2005)—and found
    neither case applicable. The court noted that, contrary to Q.L.M., neither parent in
    this case had requested a protective order limiting the questions the parents could
    be forced to answer.     It further concluded that under J.R.U.-S., court-ordered
    psychological evaluations are not testimonial in nature and, as a result, Decker did
    not apply.
    The court reasoned:
    Parents always have the right to go to trial on termination and
    dependency petitions, and to have extended hearings, so the court
    can evaluate their statements in various ways. It is the parents’
    choice not to go to trial after consulting with their attorneys about
    what the best strategy is. In this case the strategy was to accept a
    ‘b’ and ‘c’ dependency without an explicit statement of facts. The
    parents are still free to have a termination trial if it comes to that.
    They can give their statements and be subject to cross-examination,
    and if they invoke the Fifth Amendment at trial,     .   .the court can
    .
    draw whichever conclusions it wishes to draw.
    The court concluded that RCW 26.44.053(2), the statute granting use
    immunity to parents for statements made or information provided during
    dependency evaluations, combined with the parents’ ability to simply refuse to
    answer questions that might elicit inculpatory information, sufficiently protected the
    parents’ Fifth Amendment rights. The court ordered:
    Pursuant to RCW 26.44.053, no information given at any
    examinations of the parents (completed in association with this
    dependency action) may be used against the parents in subsequent
    criminal proceedings against the parents concerning the alleged
    abuse or neglect of the child. The Department shall not provide
    copies of the parents’ evaluations to the Prosecuting Attorney, nor
    shall the Department discuss the evaluations/recommendations with
    the Prosecuting Attorney.
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    The court ordered Michel-Garcia to participate in a psychological evaluation and a
    domestic violence assessment pursuant to the terms of this protective order.
    We granted Michel-Garcia’s request for discretionary review of the order
    denying derivative use immunity.
    ANALYSIS
    Michel-Garcia asks this court to hold that trial courts in Washington have
    the inherent authority to grant derivative use immunity to parents participating in
    dependency services when necessary to protect their Fifth Amendment rights
    against self-incrimination. But the Snohomish County Prosecuting Attorney asks
    the court to hold that immunity is solely a legislative prerogative and that, in the
    absence of statutory authorization to grant immunity, courts have no authority to
    grant immunity to any party or witness without prosecutorial consent. And the
    Department asks the court to dismiss the appeal as moot.
    A. Mootness
    The Department asks the court to dismiss the appeal as moot because
    Michel-Garcia has completed the court-ordered psychological evaluation. A case
    is moot if we can no longer provide effective relief. State v. T.J.S.-M., 
    193 Wash. 2d 450
    , 454, 
    441 P.3d 1181
    (2019). We conclude the case is not moot because the
    dependency is still ongoing and additional services may be ordered for which
    Michel-Garcia could seek derivative use immunity for any statements he may make
    while participating in these additional dependency services, not just the already
    completed psychological evaluation. The parties have fully litigated and briefed
    this issue, and it would be a waste of judicial resources to dismiss an appeal on an
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    issue that is likely to recur. See Orwick v. City of Seattle, 
    103 Wash. 2d 249
    , 253,
    
    692 P.2d 793
    (1984). We are in a position to provide the relief Michel-Garcia
    seeks, and the appeal is thus not moot.
    Moreover, we may consider technically moot issues “when the court
    discerns a likelihood of recurrence of the same issue, generally in the framework
    of a ‘continuing’ or ‘recurring’ controversy, and ‘public interest’ in the controversy.”
    In re Dependency of H., 
    71 Wash. App. 524
    , 527-28, 
    859 P.2d 1258
    (1993) (quoting
    DeFunis v. Odeqaard, 
    84 Wash. 2d 617
    , 627, 
    529 P.2d 438
    (1974)); see also State
    v. Hunley, 
    175 Wash. 2d 901
    , 907, 
    287 P.3d 584
    (2012) (case may be decided if it
    involves matters of continued and substantial public interest).
    This case is appropriate for review under this alternative basis because the
    issue of a dependency court’s inherent authority to grant derivative use immunity
    is not unique to Michel-Garcia. Because criminal investigations into alleged child
    abuse occur frequently, dependency courts would benefit from guidance on what
    authority they have to grant derivative use immunity. And future recurrence is not
    merely likely, it is probable. During the pendency of this appeal, the court received
    a motion for discretionary review in a different dependency proceeding in which
    another father sought review of an order denying his request for immunity. That
    motion became moot when the father relinquished his parental rights. Thus, this
    issue is one “capable of repetition, yet evading review.” See Dependency of 
    H., 71 Wash. App. at 528
    (reaching issue of shelter care procedures because there was
    no possibility that the procedures could be reviewed by an appellate court before
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    mooted by subsequent hearings). Based on these considerations, we deny the
    Department’s motion to dismiss the appeal and proceed to the merits.
    B. Immunity
    Michel-Garcia argues the trial court erred by denying his request for
    derivative use immunity. The Prosecuting Attorney asks the court to clarify that
    trial courts, absent statutory authority, cannot grant derivative use immunity in
    dependency proceedings over the objection of the State.7 Resolving this issue
    requires us to review current immunity principles and the protection they afford
    before reaching the question of whether Washington trial courts have the inherent
    authority to grant derivative use immunity in dependency proceedings.
    1. Standard of Review
    Orders from dependency proceedings are generally reviewed for an abuse
    of discretion.   
    J.R.U.-S., 126 Wash. App. at 792
    ni.              But in other contexts our
    Supreme Court has reviewed de novo the scope of a trial court’s inherent authority.
    In re Dependency of A.K., 
    162 Wash. 2d 632
    , 644, 174 P.3d 11(2007); see also State
    v. Gassman, 
    175 Wash. 2d 208
    , 211, 
    283 P.3d 1113
    (2012). Thus, we review de
    novo whether superior courts have inherent authority to grant derivative use
    immunity.
    2. Scope of Michel-Garcia’s Right Against Self-Incrimination
    The trial court concluded that Michel-Garcia’s Fifth Amendment rights were
    not at risk in this case because participation in a psychological evaluation was not
    “compelled” or sworn testimony. We disagree with this legal conclusion.
    ~ The Department has taken no position on this legal issue.
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    The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution and article I, section
    9 of the Washington Constitution both provide that no person may be compelled in
    any criminal case to give evidence or be a witness against himself. The state
    protection against self-incrimination afforded in article I, section 9 is co-extensive
    with the protection of the Fifth Amendment. State v. Earls, 
    116 Wash. 2d 364
    , 374-
    75, 
    805 P.2d 211
    (1991). Both constitutional provisions permit a person to refuse
    to testify at a criminal trial or to refuse to answer official questions in any other
    proceeding where the answer might tend to incriminate them in future criminal
    proceedings. State v. Kinci, 
    130 Wash. 2d 517
    , 523-24, 
    925 P.2d 606
    (1996). The
    privilege not only extends to answers that would in themselves support a conviction
    but also embraces any statements “which would furnish a link in the chain of
    evidence needed to prosecute” a person for a crime. Hoffman v. United States,
    341 U.S. 479,486,71 5. Ct. 814, 
    95 L. Ed. 1118
    (1951).
    The privilege against self-incrimination may be invoked whenever
    circumstances indicate that a real and substantial danger of incrimination exists; it
    is not limited to circumstances in which a person is in custody or under compulsion
    to speak. 
    J.R.U.-S., 126 Wash. App. at 793
    ; accord State v. Diaz-Cardona, 123 Wn.
    App. 477, 491, 
    98 P.3d 136
    (2004) (court cannot require juvenile to participate in
    special sex offender disposition evaluation before sentencing because it violates
    the juvenile’s privilege against self-incrimination). Although a parent participating
    in a dependency evaluation is not under compulsion to speak, and therefore has
    no constitutional right to counsel during the evaluation, there is nevertheless a real
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    and substantial danger of incrimination during such an evaluation, creating a threat
    to that parent’s Fifth Amendment rights. 
    J.R.U.-S., 126 Wash. App. at 798-800
    .
    In this case, the trial court ordered Michel-Garcia to participate in services,
    including a psychological evaluation with a parenting component and a domestic
    violence assessment.          Dependency courts are statutorily required to conduct
    review hearings to determine a parent’s compliance with court-ordered services.
    RCW 13.34.138. A parent’s level of compliance determines whether the child is
    reunified with that parent or whether the parent could lose his parental rights.
    RCW 13.34.141.      Therefore, although Michel-Garcia could decline to answer
    certain incriminating questions during the evaluation, he does so at the risk of
    losing his parental rights.
    The trial court’s findings portend the possibility of this adverse outcome:
    There is an argument that parents should be able to engage
    in services which are remedial without fear of prosecution and the
    denial of being able to engage in these treatments and evaluations,
    particularly post finding of dependency, which we are here, presents
    the parents with [a] Hobson’s choice.
    The choice is either successfully completing requirements of
    the evaluations and treatment and incriminating themselves in
    subsequent criminal proceedings or refusing to make the required
    admissions and be[ing] found in denial and noncompliance, with the
    knowledge that such refusal would be used as a basis for either not
    returning the children or termination of parental rights.
    That is because providers and the state habitually say that if
    the parent does not agree that they committed the act on which the
    underlying dependency should have been founded, then they are
    obviously in denial and are not going to have their children back.
    We have recognized that once a party invokes the Fifth Amendment
    privilege against self-incrimination, the trier of fact is entitled to draw an adverse
    inference from the refusal to testify. King v. Olympic Pipeline Co., 104 Wn. App.
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    338, 355-56, 
    16 P.3d 45
    (2000). We agree with Michel-Garcia that such a risk is
    present in this case as well. Should he participate in the evaluation but refuse to
    discuss the injuries his child sustained or his past methods of disciplining the child,
    he is at risk that the evaluator, the Department, and ultimately the trial court could
    draw the inference that Michel-Garcia has committed child abuse and has parental
    deficiencies precluding reunification with the child. As the trial court recognized,
    “[a] parent can go to the evaluation and take their chances with the answers they
    give. The court can draw any conclusion [it] wish[es] from those answers after
    they come from the evaluator.”                           These factual findings support only one
    conclusion—that the psychological evaluation or other parenting assessments that
    Michel-Garcia has undergone or may be ordered to undergo in this dependency
    proceeding threaten his right against self-incrimination.
    3. Washington’s Statutory Immunity
    Recognizing this risk to a parent’s constitutional rights, the legislature
    enacted RCW 26.44.053(2) to allow a court to grant limited immunity to parents
    who participate in psychological evaluations in dependency proceedings:
    At any time prior to or during a hearing in [a case in which it is
    alleged that a child has been subjected to child abuse or neglect],
    the court may, on its own motion, or the motion of the guardian ad
    Iitem, or other parties, order the examination by a physician,
    psychologist, or psychiatrist, of any parent.     if the court finds such
    .   .   ,
    an examination is necessary to the proper determination of the
    case.  .  The physician, psychologist, or psychiatrist conducting
    .       .
    such an examination may be required to testify concerning the
    results of such examination         No information given at any such
    .       .   .   .
    examination of the parent      . may be used against such person in
    .       .
    any     subsequent       criminal     proceedings       against      such
    person      concerning the alleged abuse or neglect of the child.
    .       .   .
    (Emphasis added.)
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    Michel-Garcia contends this statutory grant of immunity is inadequate to
    protect him because it only prohibits the use of statements he directly makes to
    the evaluator and not information that may be derived from such statements. We
    agree.
    Immunity statutes are an attempt to balance two fundamental
    precepts in American jurisprudence; the Fifth Amendment’s guaranty
    that no person “shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
    witness against himself,” and the legitimate social purpose of the
    State’s need for information and concomitant ability to compel its
    citizens to appear at official proceedings and give information.
    Witness immunity statutes are designed to accommodate these two
    interests.
    State v. Runions, 
    100 Wash. 2d 52
    , 57, 
    665 P.2d 1358
    (1983) (quoting State v.
    Runions, 
    32 Wash. App. 669
    , 678, 
    649 P.2d 144
    (1982) (Reed, J., dissenting)). The
    adequacy of a grant of immunity, therefore, must be tested against the
    requirements of the Fifth Amendment, which mandates that the grant be
    coextensive with the scope of the privilege against self-incrimination. State v.
    Carroll, 
    83 Wash. 2d 109
    , 111,515 P.2d 1299 (1973).
    There are three different types of immunity recognized in the case law.
    ‘Transactional immunity” is the broadest, prohibiting prosecution for any matter
    about which the witness testifies or gives a statement. 
    J.R.U.-S., 126 Wash. App. at 797
    . “Use immunity” prohibits the direct use of a person’s compelled statements
    in a criminal trial, ki., but allows the State to prosecute that person with evidence
    collected from an independent source, 
    Runions, 100 Wash. 2d at 55
    . “Derivative use
    immunity’ bars the use of any evidence derived from immunized statements.”
    
    J.R.U.-S., 126 Wash. App. at 797
    .
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    Use immunity “is not as comprehensive as the protection afforded by the
    Fifth Amendment privilege since it does not preclude the derivative use of the fruits
    of the compelled testimony as investigatory leads which might supply other means
    of incriminating the witness.” Eastham v. Arndt, 
    28 Wash. App. 524
    , 529, 
    624 P.2d 1159
    (1981). Thus, a combination of use and derivative use immunity is~necessary
    to protect a person’s Fifth Amendment privilege. Kastigar v. United States, 
    406 U.S. 441
    , 459, 
    92 S. Ct. 1653
    , 
    32 L. Ed. 2d 212
    (1972); see also 
    J.R.U.-S., 126 Wash. App. at 797
    (acknowledging that transactional immunity provides broader
    protection than Fifth Amendment but use immunity alone is insufficient).
    In J.R.U.-S., this court concluded that RCW 26.44.053(2) only allows a grant
    of use immunity and does not provide immunity for evidence derived from
    immunized 
    statements. 126 Wash. App. at 798
    . “The statute thus provides less
    comprehensive immunity than the Fifth Amendment.”               j4~   Accordingly, w~
    conclude that, by itself, RCW 26.44.053(2) is insufficient to guarantee
    Michel-Garcia’s constitutional right against self-incrimination and that the trial court
    erred in concluding otherwise.
    4. Inherent Authority of Washington Superior Courts
    The more difficult question is what authority, if any, the trial court has to
    grant broader immunity than authorized by the legislature when the prosecuting
    attorney objects, as in this case. Michel-Garcia contends that trial courts have the
    inherent authority to grant derivative use immunity to overcome the deficiencies
    with RCW26.44.053(2). He relies on Statev. Escoto, 108 Wn.2d 1,735 P.2d 1310
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    (1987), State v. Decker, 
    68 Wash. App. 246
    , 
    842 P.2d 500
    (1992),8 Q.L.M., and
    J.R.U.-S., for his argument. But Escoto did not address immunity at all; Decker is
    limited to its facts; Q.L.M. did not involve derivative use immunity, and to the extent
    this court discussed our courts’ authority to grant this type of immunity in J.R.U.
    S., itdid so in dicta.
    In Escoto, a trial court ordered a 12-year-old with multiple convictions to
    undergo a psychological evaluation to help the judge determine the appropriate
    
    disposition. 108 Wash. 2d at 2-3
    . The trial court further ordered that “any evaluation
    would relate only to matters for which [Escoto] had been found guilty and not any
    unadjudicated charge.”          at 3. Escoto objected to the evaluation, arguing that it
    violated his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. j~ at 3, 6. The
    trial court reasoned that its need for adequate information to determine an
    appropriate disposition outweighed the public policy regarding the Fifth
    Amendment privilege since Escoto had already been convicted. j..ç~ at 3. It granted
    Escoto the right to counsel at the evaluation. j~çj. Based on the evaluation, the trial
    court imposed a sentence outside the standard range. ~ at 4.
    Our Supreme Court affirmed, concluding that the trial court was careful to
    protect Escoto’s Fifth Amendment privilege by limiting use of the evaluation to
    matters already adjudicated and by permitting counsel to be present. j.~. at 2, 7.
    The Supreme Court simply did not address whether the trial court could grant use
    or derivative use immunity to Escoto; no one sought such immunity for Escoto.
    8   Review denied, 
    121 Wash. 2d 1016
    , 
    854 P.2d 42
    (1993).
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    Then, in Decker, a juvenile pleaded guilty to assault and was ordered to
    undergo a psychological evaluation before his disposition 
    hearing. 68 Wash. App. at 247
    .   Decker objected to the evaluation on the ground that he might make
    statements that would incriminate him in other, unadjudicated and uncharged,
    matters. 
    Id. at 247-48.
    The trial court ordered the juvenile to participate in the pre
    disposition psychological evaluation and prohibited counsel from attending. ki. at
    248. The trial court also ordered that “‘any discussion with [the] evaluator in
    reference to matters that have not been adjudicated shall be granted use
    immunity.” ~ On appeal, Decker argued that the trial court erred by copipelling
    him to attend the evaluation without counsel and by granting him use immunity
    over the prosecutor’s objection. jç~ at 247.
    This court held that, absent a showing of special circumstances, Decker did
    not have a right to counsel during the evaluation. j~çj~ at 251. It also concluded that
    “a trial court, under these circumstances, has the inherent authority to issue this
    type of protective order.” j4. at 252. We reasoned that the protective order was
    similar to the order upheld in Escoto, and that “the Escoto court would sanction the
    trial court’s use of immunity in this situation.” 
    Decker, 68 Wash. App. at 253
    . The
    Decker court did not distinguish between use and derivative use immunity but did
    state that the prosecutor remained “at liberty to prosecute matters which were
    discovered independently of the evaluation but which also may have been
    discussed during the evaluation, so long as those discussions did not lead to the
    discovery of any evidence.” j~ at 252-53.
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    But Decker has been limited to the circumstances presented in that case—
    a predisposition evaluation in a juvenile offender matter during which only
    questions relating to adjudicated matters are posed and which counsel is
    prohibited from attending. See 
    Q.L.M., 105 Wash. App. at 543-44
    . In Q.L.M., a
    juvenile who was both a dependent child and a convicted sex offender, sought to
    enjoin the Department from releasing to a county prosecutor the results of his
    sexually aggressive youth evaluation. jç~ at 535-36. The trial court, relying on
    Decker, entered a protective order prohibiting the prosecutor from receiving
    information regarding this evaluation, despite a statute requiring the Department
    to refer any case of a sexually violent predator to the prosecutor. j4~ at 535. The
    order “purported to apply both retroactively and to all future counseling and
    treatment records, prohibiting their use for criminal investigation or prosecution.”9
    j~ at 543 n.24. The King County Prosecutor and the Department appealed the
    entry of this protective order. k~. at 536.
    This court reversed, holding that the order “impermissibly impinge[d] on the
    prosecutorial function,” and exceeded the exception approved in Decker and, as a
    result, was unauthorized by Decker’s holding. ki. at 544. It explicitly noted that
    “Decker created a single narrow exception to the normal rule that granting
    immunity is a prosecutorial executive function.”
    This court subsequently reiterated this limitation in Diaz-Cardona. 123 Wn.
    App. at 488-89. In that case, we held that a court could not compel a juvenile to
    ~ A second protective order, granting derivative use immunity, was not challenged on
    appeal. 
    Q.L.M., 105 Wash. App. at 543
    n.24.
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    participate in a Special Sex Offender Disposition Alternative (SSODA) evaluation,
    even with a Decker protective order in place, because statements made in the
    evaluation could be used to impose a disposition beyond the standard range,
    thereby violating the juvenile’s Fifth Amendment rights. hi. at 491.
    Following Diaz-Cardona, this court decided J.R.U.-S. Similar to this case,
    the parents were the subjects of a criminal investigation and involved in
    dependency 
    proceedings. 126 Wash. App. at 790
    . The trial court entered an order
    allowing the parents’ counsel to attend any court-ordered psychological
    evaluations. jçj~. The Department appealed this order, and we affirmed, holding
    that the trial court did not abuse its discretion in entering this order as a method of
    protecting the parents’ right against self-incrimination. j.ç[. at 799-801.
    This court recognized that counsel’s presence at such evaluations could
    undermine their efficacy. ~ at 800. This court recommended that
    [t]he Department’s concerns can be alleviated in future cases without
    sacrificing parents’ Fifth Amendment rights. The Legislature could
    broaden the statutory immunity to include derivative use immunity,
    or superior courts could issue protective orders granting derivative
    use immunity as they did in State v. Decker and Q.L.M. Both
    solutions would make it unnecessary to have counsel present,
    thereby facilitating candid disclosures in evaluations.
    at 800-01 (footnotes and citations omitted).         Despite what appears to be
    precatory language, this court added:
    We hold, however, that when Fifth Amendment rights are threatened,
    the courts should enter protective orders granting additional
    immunity rather than allowing counsel to attend psychological
    evaluations.
    j~ at 790. It is this sentence on which Michel-Garcia relies to argue that superior
    courts have the inherent authority to grant derivative use immunity.              The
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    Prosecuting Attorney asks us to revisit this language in J.R.U.-S. and make it clear
    that any discussion of derivative use immunity in J.R.U.-S. is not its actual holding.
    A “holding” is a “court’s determination of a matter of law pivotal to its
    decision.” BLACK’S LAw DICTIONARY 879 (11th ed. 2019). Dicta, on the other hand,
    is a remark made by a court in pronouncing its opinion suggested by the case but
    not necessarily essential to its determination. Pierce County v. State, 
    150 Wash. 2d 422
    , 435 n.8, 
    78 P.3d 640
    (2003); see also “Obiter dictum,” BLACK’S LAW
    DICTIONARY at 569. While courts must give precedential weight to holdings, they
    may clarify dicta-created ambiguities. State ex rel. Evergreen Freedom Found. v.
    Nat’l Educ. Ass’n, 
    119 Wash. App. 445
    , 451-52, 452 n.8, 
    81 P.3d 911
    (2003).
    We take this opportunity to clarify J.R.U.-S., and conclude that this court’s
    statement that courts “should” grant derivative use immunity rather than permit
    counsel to attend evaluations, is dicta. The sole issue presented in J.R.U.-S. was
    “whether the courts in the dependency proceedings abused their discretion when
    they allowed the parents’ counsel to attend court ordered psychological
    
    evaluations.” 126 Wash. App. at 790
    . We concluded the court did not abuse its
    discretion in doing so. 
    Id. A statement
    as to what courts “should” do in the future
    was unnecessary to our ultimate decision. Thus, it is dicta. See In re the Marriage
    of Rideout, 
    150 Wash. 2d 337
    , 354, 
    77 P.3d 1174
    (2003); Ruse v. De~’t of Labor &
    Indus., 
    138 Wash. 2d 1
    , 8-9, 
    977 P.2d 570
    (1999) (where unnecessary to reach an
    issue, a court’s discussion of that issue is dicta).
    Escoto, Decker, Q.L.M., and J.R.U.-S. do not support Michel-Garcia’s
    argument that trial courts have the inherent authority to grant derivative use
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    immunity to parents undergoing evaluations in dependency proceedings. We thus
    decide the issue as a matter of first impression.
    ~The Prosecuting Attorney advances two arguments for the denial of
    derivative use immunity. First, the Prosecuting Attorney argues that historically,
    immunity has been solely a legislative, and not a judicial, prerogative. Second, the
    Prosecuting Attorney maintains that grants of immunity affect substantive rights
    and thus lie outside the limits of trial courts’ inherent authority to determine court
    procedures.
    a. Immunity as a Legislative Prerogative
    The Prosecuting Attorney argues that immunity—whether transactional,
    use, or derivative use—can only be authorized by the state legislature and
    exercised at the prosecutors’ discretion. The historical evidence supports this
    argument, in part.
    Throughout this state’s history, it has been the state legislature, and not the
    judiciary, that has decided to whom to grant transactional immunity from
    prosecution. Since 1854, the Washington legislature has given trial courts the
    authority to compel witnesses to testify in criminal proceedings. LAWS OF 1854, p.
    116,   § 93   (codified as RCW 10.52.040). And since 1909, RCW 10.52.090 has
    provided for transactional immunity by ensuring that a person compelled to testify
    “shall not be prosecuted or subjected to a penalty or forfeiture for or on account of
    any action, matter or thing concerning which he [or she] shall so testify.” LAWS OF
    1909, ch. 249,   § 39;   
    Carroll, 83 Wash. 2d at 113
    . The legislature later extended this
    statutory transactional immunity to testimony before grand juries and special
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    inquiry judges.     LAWS OF 1971, 1st Ex. Sess., ch. 67,          §   13 (codified as RCW
    10.27.130); 
    Runions, 32 Wash. App. at 676
    (Reed, J., dissenting), rev’d, 
    100 Wash. 2d 52
    .
    Our Supreme Court then promulgated a court rule recognizing the existence
    of transactional immunity for witnesses in criminal trials and creating a process for
    a prosecutor to seek a court order of immunity. 
    Runions, 100 Wash. 2d at 55
    . CrR
    6.1410 provides:
    In any case the court on motion of the prosecuting attorney
    may order that a witness shall not be excused from giving testimony
    or producing any papers, documents or things, on the ground that
    such testimony may tend to incriminate or subject the witness to a
    penalty or forfeiture; but the witness shall not be prosecuted or
    subjected to criminal penalty or forfeiture for or on account of any
    transaction, matter, or fact concerning which the witness has been
    ordered to testify pursuant to this rule. The witness may nevertheless
    be prosecuted for failing to comply with the order to answer, or for
    perjury or the giving of false evidence.
    (Emphasis added.) Because the rule’s language merely parrots the substantive
    language of RCW 10.52.090, the Supreme Court’s promulgation of CrR 6.14 was
    an exercise of its procedural rule-making power and not the grant of a substantive
    right that did not otherwise exist by statute. ~ RCW 2.04.190 (supreme court
    has power to proscribe rules for procedure); RCW 2.28.150 (when jurisdiction is
    conferred on a court by the constitution or statute, but no procedure is prescribed,
    courts may adopt “any suitable process or mode of proceeding”).
    10  This rule came about when the legislature and the Supreme Court commissioned the
    Washington State Judicial council to conduct studies and make recommendations on both
    statutory schemes of immunity and rules of criminal procedure. 
    Runions, 32 Wash. App. at 675-76
    (Reed, J., dissenting). “According to drafters’ comments by the Washington Judicial Council
    Criminal Rules Task Force, CrR 6.14 reflects the policy decision to provide for transaction
    immunity.” 4A KARL B. TEGLAND, WASHINGTON PRACTICE: RULES PRACTICE CrR 6.14 author’s cmts.
    at 462 (7th ed. 2008 Update).
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    Under CrR 6.14, a defendant has no right to demand, and a court has no
    authority to grant, immunity to an exculpatory defense witness over a prosecutor’s
    objection. State v. Fish, 
    99 Wash. App. 86
    , 93, 
    992 P.2d 505
    (1999); State v. Carlisle,
    
    73 Wash. App. 678
    , 681, 
    871 P.2d 174
    (1994). In Carlisle, we held that even if a
    court were to find that a prosecutor committed misconduct and intimidated a
    witness to the point that the witness declined to testify—thereby violating a
    defendant’s constitutional right to due process—the remedy was not a grant of
    immunity but was instead dismissal of the criminal 
    charge. 73 Wash. App. at 681
    ;
    see also United States v. Lord, 
    711 F.2d 887
    , 891-92 (9th Cir. 1983).
    The legislature’s affirmative act of providing transactional immunity in
    specific situations and our courts’ refusal to grant immunity under CrR 6.14 in the
    absence of a request by a prosecutor is strong historical evidence that grants of
    transactional immunity are solely a legislative prerogative.     Such a conclusion
    makes sense because a grant of transactional immunity amounts to a decision by
    the legislature to exclude an entire class of individuals from the application of our
    state’s criminal laws. See 
    Runions, 32 Wash. App. at 674
    n.8 (Reed, J., dissenting)
    (‘[A] witness who is granted transactional immunity for his testimony is insulated
    from all future prosecution for any of the acts about which he is compelled to
    speak.”).
    But it does not necessarily follow that grants of use and derivative use
    immunity are solely legislative prerogatives. Our legislature has enacted statutes
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    granting use immunity in limited circumstances.11               Currently, in addition to
    RCW 26.44.053(2), we have found only one other statute that extends immunity
    to a party or witness. Under RCW 6.32.200, if a debtor answers questions posed
    during supplemental proceedings, those answers may not be used against that
    debtor in a criminal proceeding. But this statute provides only use immunity and,
    as a result, a judgment debtor can legally refuse to answer questions to protect
    himself against self-incrimination.        
    Eastham, 28 Wash. App. at 530
    .              As the
    Prosecuting Attorney notes, our state legislature has never passed a statute
    granting derivative use immunity.
    Without historical evidence to guide us, we must turn to the Prosecuting
    Attorney’s second argument—that a grant of use or derivative use immunity affects
    substantive rights and is thus outside the trial courts’ inherent authority to set its
    own procedures.
    b. Courts’ Inherent Authority to Create Exclusionary Rules
    Washington courts derive their judicial power from article IV of the state
    constitution and from the legislature under RCW 2.04.190. Sprattv. Toft, 180 Wn.
    App. 620, 634, 
    324 P.3d 707
    (2014). “The inherent power of the court is the power
    to protect itself; the power to administer justice whether any previous form of
    remedy has been granted or not; the power to promulgate rules for its practice,
    and the power to provide process where none exists.” In re Bruen, 
    102 Wash. 472
    , 476, 
    172 P. 1152
    (1918).
    ~1  For a comprehensive list of Washington statutes granting immunity (many of which no
    longer exist), see 8 JAMES HENRY WIGMORE, EVIDENCE IN TRIALS AT COMMON LAW § 2281 nIl, at
    507 (John T. McNaughton rev. ed. 1961).
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    The inherent power of article IV includes the power to govern court
    procedures, City of Fircrest v. Jensen, 
    158 Wash. 2d 384
    , 394, 
    143 P.3d 776
    (2006),
    including the rules of evidence, State v. Gresham, 
    173 Wash. 2d 405
    , 431, 
    269 P.3d 207
    (2012). Moreover, the judiciary’s province is procedural and the legislature’s
    is substantive. 
    Jensen, 158 Wash. 2d at 394
    . Although a clear line of demarcation
    cannot always be delineated between what is substantive and what is procedural,
    “[s]ubstantive law prescribes norms for societal conduct and punishments for
    violations thereof.   It thus creates, defines, and regulates primary rights.         In
    contrast, practice and procedure pertain to the essentially mechanical operations
    of the courts by which substantive Jaw, rights, and remedies are effectuated.” State
    v. Smith, 
    84 Wash. 2d 498
    , 501, 
    527 P.2d 674
    (1974).
    The authority to admit or exclude evidence is a procedural matter controlled
    by the courts. 
    Gresham, 173 Wash. 2d at 431
    . At least one court has held that use
    and derivative use immunity are evidentiary rules that fall within a courts’ inherent
    authority to govern the admission or exclusion of evidence. State v. Belanger,
    2009-NMSC-025, ~ 13-21, 
    146 N.M. 357
    , 361-62, 
    210 P.3d 783
    (New Mexico
    rules of evidence govern use and derivative use immunity because they are
    testimonial privileges).12 The Belanger court relied on Simmons v. United States,
    
    390 U.S. 377
    , 393-94, 
    88 S. Ct. 967
    , 
    19 L. Ed. 2d 1247
    (1968), for the proposition
    that courts have the inherent judicial power to exclude inculpatory evidence in
    certain contexts to protect a defendant’s constitutional rights. 2009-NMSC-025,
    12But see Andy Scholl, State v. Belanger and New Mexico’s Lone Stance on Allowing
    Defense Witness Immunity, 
    40 N.M. L
    . Rev. 421 (2010).
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    ~ 
    28, 146 N.M. at 364
    . In Simmons, the Court created an exclusionary rule that
    precludes a prosecutor from offering at trial a defendant’s testimony from a pretrial
    suppression 
    hearing. 390 U.S. at 393-94
    . Although the Simmons court did not
    base its holding on the courts’ inherent authority to grant immunity, it arguably
    supports the proposition that courts may prevent the State from presenting
    evidence in criminal proceedings when necessary to protect a defendant’s
    constitutional right to remain silent.
    But federal courts have rejected such an expansive reading of Simmons. In
    United States v. Quinn, 
    728 F.3d 243
    , 255 (3d Cir. 2013), the Third Circuit held
    that Simmons does not support the existence of an inherent judicial power to grant
    witness immunity. Because prosecutors, and not courts, are in the best position
    to decide prosecutorial tradeoffs associated with grants of use immunity, the Quinn
    court deemed it inappropriate to read Simmons’ exclusionary rule as extending a
    court’s power to invade prosecutorial decisions.      jç~ at 254-55. We find this
    reasoning compelling.
    Unlike the situation in Simmons, a grant of derivative use immunity to
    anyone, whether party or witness, impacts more than just the presentation of
    evidence in a criminal trial. It would govern how law enforcement must investigate
    crime. As the Prosecuting Attorney points out, a grant of derivative use immunity
    would require law enforcement to take steps to protect existing evidence to prove
    that none of it was derived from immunized evidence.            But because state
    prosecuting attorneys are not parties to dependency proceedings, and the
    pleadings in such cases are filed under seal, they would not necessarily be
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    informed of a request for derivative use immunity and may only learn that a court
    granted it after-the-fact. As a result, neither the police nor prosecutor may be
    aware of the need to take these protective steps, causing the prosecution to fail to
    meet its “heavy burden of proving that all of the evidence it proposes to use was
    derived from legitimate independent sources.” See State v. Bryant, 
    97 Wash. App. 479
    , 485, 
    983 P.2d 1181
    (1999) (quoting 
    Kastigar, 406 U.S. at 461-62
    ).
    Many of the State’s likely witnesses in a child abuse prosecution, such as
    the abused child, the other parent, and other siblings, are usually parties to the
    dependency proceeding and would have access to any evaluations ordered by the
    dependency court. When a witness has been exposed to immunized statements,
    their testimony may have to be examined on a line-by-line basis so the prosecution
    can demonstrate that no use was made of any immunized statements. United
    States v. North, 
    285 U.S. App. D.C. 343
    , 372, 
    910 F.2d 843
    , modified on other
    grounds on rehearing, 
    287 U.S. App. D.C. 146
    , 
    920 F.2d 940
    (1990). So a grant
    of derivative use immunity would inevitably have a significant impact on a State’s
    ability to prosecute a parent for child abuse under these circumstances. It is for
    this reason that we have stated that immunity in general is “only a prosecutorial
    tool.” Statev. Matson, 22Wn.App. 114,120,587 P.2d 540 (1978).
    Moreover, New Mexico’s Supreme Court appears to be the only state court
    in the country to conclude that judges have the inherent authority to grant
    derivative use immunity to a witness. See generally Andy Scholl, State v. Belanger
    and New Mexico’s Lone Stance on Allowing Defense Witness Immunity, 
    40 N.M. L
    . Rev. 421 (2010); accord 
    Quinn, 728 F.3d at 253
    (holding that immunity is a
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    creature of the legislature, “the body that defines criminal offenses and their
    sanctions”); Hardinc~ v. People, 
    708 P.2d 1354
    , 1358 (Cob. 1985) (rejecting the
    concept of judicial immunity, holding the only immunity available to a witness is
    under the state’s immunity statute which can be granted by a court only at the
    prosecution’s request); State v. Montciomerv, 
    467 So. 2d 387
    , 395 (Fla. Dist. Ct.
    App. 1985) (courts do not have inherent power to grant use immunity to defense
    witnesses over state’s objection).
    The weight of this authority leads us to conclude that use and derivative use
    immunity are not evidentiary privileges within the inherent authority of our trial
    courts but are, instead, matters of substantive law falling within the legislature’s
    powers.
    In this case, the trial court crafted a protective order that limited the
    Department’s ability to disseminate or discuss the psychological report with the
    Prosecuting Attorney:
    Pursuant to ROW 26.44.053, no information given at any
    examinations of the parents (completed in association with this
    dependency action) may be used against the parents in subsequent
    criminal proceedings against the parents concerning the alleged
    abuse or neglect of the child. The Department shall not provide
    copies of the parents’ evaluations to the Prosecuting Attorney, nor
    shall the Department discuss the evaluations/recommendations with
    the Prosecuting Attorney.
    Neither Michel-Garcia nor the Prosecuting Attorney challenged this aspect of the
    protective order.
    We hold that the grant of use and derivative use immunity is solely a
    legislative, and not a judicial, prerogative. We further hold that, in the absence of a
    statute, trial courts do not have the inherent authority to confer derivative use
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    immunity on a parent in a dependency proceeding over the objection of the
    prosecutor.   The trial court did not err in rejecting Michel-Garcia’s request for
    derivative use immunity.
    We therefore affirm.
    WE CONCUR:
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