State v. A. G. , 2023 WI 61 ( 2023 )


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    2023 WI 61
    SUPREME COURT            OF   WISCONSIN
    CASE NO.:              2022AP652
    COMPLETE TITLE:        In re the termination of parental rights to
    A.G., a person under the age of 18:
    State of Wisconsin,
    Petitioner-Respondent-Petitioner,
    v.
    A. G.,
    Respondent-Appellant.
    REVIEW OF DECISION OF THE COURT OF APPEALS
    Reported at 
    404 Wis. 2d 511
    ,
    979 N.W.2d 822
    (2022 – unpublished)
    OPINION FILED:         June 30, 2023
    SUBMITTED ON BRIEFS:
    ORAL ARGUMENT:         January 17, 2023
    SOURCE OF APPEAL:
    COURT:              Circuit
    COUNTY:             Milwaukee
    JUDGE:              Ellen R. Brostrom
    JUSTICES:
    REBECCA GRASSL BRADLEY, J., announced the mandate of the Court,
    and delivered an opinion, in which ZIEGLER, C.J., joined.
    HAGEDORN, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which KAROFSKY, J.,
    joined.   DALLET, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which ANN
    WALSH BRADLEY, J., joined.
    NOT PARTICIPATING:
    PATIENCE DRAKE ROGGENSACK, J., did not participate.
    ATTORNEYS:
    For the petitioner-respondent-petitioner, there were briefs
    filed by John T. Chisolm, district attorney, and Katie Gutowski,
    assistant district attorney. There was an oral argument by Katie
    Gutowski, assistant district attorney.
    For the respondent-appellant, there was a brief filed by
    Christopher D. Sobic, assistant state public defender. There was
    an oral argument by Christopher D. Sobic, assistant state public
    defender.
    Guardian       ad   litem   briefs         were   filed   by   Courtney    L.A.
    Roelandts    and    The     Legal    Aid       Society   of    Milwaukee,     Inc.,
    Milwaukee.    There       was   an   oral       argument      by   Courtney   L.A.
    Roelandts.
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    NOTICE
    This opinion is subject to further
    editing and modification.   The final
    version will appear in the bound
    volume of the official reports.
    No.    2022AP652
    (L.C. No.   2021CV1469)
    STATE OF WISCONSIN                            :              IN SUPREME COURT
    In re the termination of parental rights to
    A.G., a person under the age of 18:
    FILED
    State of Wisconsin,
    JUN 30, 2023
    Petitioner-Respondent-Petitioner,
    Samuel A. Christensen
    v.                                                        Clerk of Supreme Court
    A. G.,
    Respondent-Appellant.
    REBECCA GRASSL BRADLEY, J., announced the mandate of the Court,
    and delivered an opinion, in which ZIEGLER, C.J., joined.
    HAGEDORN, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which KAROFSKY, J.,
    joined.   DALLET, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which ANN
    WALSH BRADLEY, J., joined.
    PATIENCE DRAKE ROGGENSACK, J., did not participate.
    REVIEW of a decision of the Court of Appeals.                Reversed.
    ¶1    REBECCA       GRASSL   BRADLEY,   J.       The     State      filed      a
    petition to terminate the parental rights of A.G. under 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.415
     (2019–20), alleging A.G.'s biological daughter
    remained a child in continuing need of protection or services
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    (continuing       CHIPS)    and      A.G.'s      failure    to     assume      parental
    responsibility for his daughter.                  This appeal concerns whether
    A.G. knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently pled no contest
    to   one   of   those    two   grounds      in    the   termination       of   parental
    rights (TPR) petition.            A.G. argues he did not understand the
    circuit court at disposition would have to decide whether to
    terminate his parental rights.1                  He further argues the circuit
    court erroneously indicated the State would have to prove at
    disposition that "termination was in . . . [the child]'s best
    interest" by "clear and convincing" evidence.                      The State, A.G.
    claims, has no such burden; therefore, A.G. asserts he pled no
    contest under the belief that his odds of a favorable outcome
    were higher than they legally should have been.
    ¶2    The     circuit       court    denied       A.G.'s     plea     withdrawal
    motion.     The    court     of   appeals       reversed   that    decision      in   an
    unpublished       opinion      and    ordered       the    cause    remanded       with
    directions to allow A.G. to withdraw his plea.                       State v. A.G.
    (A.G. II), No. 2022AP652, unpublished slip op. (Wis. Ct. App.
    July 12, 2022).         The State and the guardian ad litem (GAL) each
    filed a petition for review.              We granted both petitions.
    ¶3    We hold A.G. knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently
    pled no contest.           During the plea colloquy, the circuit court
    told A.G., "[t]he second half of the case is where the [c]ourt
    1The Honorable Mark A. Sanders presided over the initial
    appearance in the case, but the Honorable Ellen R. Brostrom
    presided over the plea colloquy and was the judge who denied
    A.G.'s plea withdrawal motion.      Both judges serve on the
    Milwaukee County Circuit Court.
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    decides is it in the child's best interest to in fact terminate
    your parental rights."          At the initial appearance ten months
    before the colloquy, the court had already informed A.G. of
    potential dispositional outcomes:
    One thing I could decide is that termination of
    parental rights can [sic] best for the kids that are
    involved.   If I make that decision, that ends all
    legal relationship between that parent and that child.
    As far as the law is concerned, that parent and that
    child become complete strangers to each other.      But
    that's not the only potential outcome.       There are
    other   potential    outcomes   that   don't    involve
    termination of parental rights.
    Assuming the colloquy was defective, A.G. had previously been
    notified that at disposition the court may or may not terminate
    his    parental    rights.      Additionally,     the   court     conducted     a
    contested dispositional hearing the day after the colloquy, and
    A.G.'s    testimony     shows   he   sought    reunification      rather      than
    termination of his parental rights.              After the court held an
    evidentiary hearing on A.G.'s plea withdrawal motion, the court
    found    A.G.     had   demonstrated   an     understanding     of    potential
    dispositions through his testimony at the dispositional hearing.
    That finding is not clearly erroneous and must be accepted.
    Other parts of the record confirm the validity of A.G.'s plea.
    Consequently, we must reject A.G.'s first argument under the
    applicable standard of review.         See State v. Brown, 
    2006 WI 100
    ,
    ¶19,     
    293 Wis. 2d 594
    ,     
    716 N.W.2d 906
           (citing       State     v.
    Trochinski, 
    2002 WI 56
    , ¶16, 
    253 Wis. 2d 38
    , 
    644 N.W.2d 891
    ).
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    ¶4        Regarding    A.G.'s      second       argument,    he    is    correct     to
    note that 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2) (2021–22)2 does not place a
    burden      of    proof     on     the    State;       however,     the    circuit      court
    actually held the State to the clear and convincing standard at
    disposition and reiterated at multiple points that the State
    satisfied this standard.                  Accordingly, the court did exactly
    what A.G. claims the court told him it would do.                                    Placing a
    burden on the State benefitted A.G. and did not affect A.G.'s
    ability to weigh the pros and cons of entering this particular
    no contest plea.             If A.G. thought a favorable outcome was more
    likely because the State had to meet a clear and convincing
    standard, the State actually did meet that standard.                                The court
    of    appeals      erred     in    permitting         A.G.   to    withdraw       his   plea;
    therefore, we reverse its decision.
    I.       BACKGROUND
    ¶5        The State's TPR petition sought to sever the parent-
    child relationship between A.G. and his daughter.                               Toward the
    top   of    the     first    page,       in   bold     lettering,    the    TPR      petition
    states:      "Petition for Termination of Parental Rights[.]"                              The
    TPR petition continues, "[t]he petitioner seeks termination of
    parental         rights    of . . . [A.G.]"              Toward     the    end,      the   TPR
    petition reads, "[b]ased on the foregoing, . . . [A.G.] is not
    fit to be a parent to the above-named child.                        Upon consideration
    of    the   entire        record    in    this       case,   termination       of    parental
    Unless otherwise indicated, all subsequent references to
    2
    the Wisconsin Statutes are to the 2021–22 version.
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    rights is warranted. . . .           The best interest of the child will
    be   served     by     termination    of       the   parental      rights      of    the
    parent[.]"
    ¶6       For context, the State alleged, among other things,
    that A.G. and the child's mother were addicted to heroin and the
    child "tested positive for drugs" at birth.                          After spending
    approximately one month in the neonatal intensive care unit of
    the hospital where she was born, A.G.'s daughter was removed
    from her parents, both of whom later pled no contest to the
    allegations in the State's petition alleging their daughter was
    a child in need of protection or services (CHIPS).                      Filed eight
    months after the circuit court entered its CHIPS order, the
    State's TPR petition alleged the child's parents failed to meet
    the conditions ordered by the circuit court for the return of
    their daughter.        Among other contentions, the State claimed A.G.
    did not seek treatment and "no call[ed], no show[ed]" multiple
    drug screenings.         Based on the allegations, the State claimed
    two independent grounds for TPR:
       continuing CHIPS; and
       failure to assume parental responsibility.
    See 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.415
    (2), (6) (2019–20).                A.G. was represented
    by counsel at the hearings discussed below.
    ¶7       At an adjourned initial appearance, the circuit court
    explained     the    nature     of   TPR   proceedings        in     detail.        Most
    relevantly,      the    court    informed       A.G.   that     if    grounds       were
    established, the court would proceed to the disposition phase.
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    The court explained it would hold a "contested dispositional
    hearing" at which:
    [W]hat we focus on is not whether there's a reason
    anymore, but what's [sic] we focus on instead is
    what's best for the kids that are involved in the
    case.   Not what's best for anybody else.  Not what's
    best for any of the lawyers or social workers.    Not
    what's best for the foster parents.   Not what's best
    for parents, but what's best for the kids that are
    involved in the case.
    . . . .
    If I make that unfitness finding, then we go on to the
    second part of the proceedings. That's that contested
    dispositional hearing. There we focus on what is best
    for the kids that are involved. So everybody gets to
    put on testimony and evidence and argue to me what
    they think is best for the kids that are involved.
    The State puts on testimony and evidence and tells me
    what they think is best.    The . . . [GAL] can put on
    testimony and evidence and tell me what she thinks is
    best. Parents can do exactly the same thing. Parents
    have the right to put on testimony and evidence and to
    subpoena witnesses and to testify or remain silent
    themselves.   Parents also have the right to confront
    any witness that testifies on behalf of any other
    party.   Parents have the right to argue to me what
    they think is best for the kids that are involved.
    . . . . I then decide what outcome is best for the
    kids that are involved.   One thing I could decide is
    that termination of parental rights can [sic] best for
    the kids that are involved. If I make that decision,
    that ends all legal relationship between that parent
    and that child. As far as the law is concerned, that
    parent and that child become complete strangers to
    each other.      But that's not the only potential
    outcome.    There are other potential outcomes that
    don't involve termination of parental rights.
    At multiple points during this appearance, the court paused to
    inquire   whether   A.G.   understood   the   court's   explanation,   and
    A.G. responded he did.
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    ¶8    At   a     later   hearing,        A.G.   pled   no    contest     to   the
    continuing   CHIPS    ground,      and   the    failure     to   assume     parental
    responsibility ground was dismissed.                During the plea colloquy
    between A.G. and the circuit court, A.G. stated he was 26 years
    old, had an 11th-grade education, could read and write English,
    and had no mental illness or cognitive issues that would limit
    his ability to understand the colloquy.                  A.G. denied taking any
    drugs (other than a prescribed medication that did not "alter[]"
    his mind) or drinking alcohol within the preceding 12 hours.                      He
    also confirmed he read the TPR petition, understood the State's
    allegations,   and     was   not    promised        or   paid    anything    as    an
    inducement to plea.
    ¶9    The part of the plea colloquy giving rise to appellate
    proceedings went as follows:
    Q. You understand that you do have the right to have a
    trial for this first half of the case, whether or
    not there is a legal reason to terminate your
    parental rights?
    A. I do.
    Q. And that could be a trial to the judge or a trial
    to a jury. Do you understand that?
    A. I do.
    Q. If it were a jury it would be a 12 person jury and
    10 out of 12 would have to agree in order to reach
    a decision. Do you understand that?
    A. I do understand.
    Q. And at that trial you would have a whole bunch of
    rights and I'm just going to list them. You would
    have the right to force the State to prove the
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    grounds by clear, convincing, and                 satisfactory
    evidence to a reasonable certainty.
    You would have the right to cross-examination of
    your witnesses; the right to introduce evidence;
    the right to compel witnesses to come to court and
    testify for you; the right to testify yourself or
    remain silent, knowing, though, that silence be
    [sic] used against you in this kind of case.    Do
    you understand you would have all of these trial
    rights?
    A. I do.
    Q. And do you understand that by pleading no contest
    you're giving those rights up?
    A. I do.
    Q. Now, you understand that's just the first half of
    the case? The second half of the case is where the
    [c]ourt decides is it in the child's best interest
    to in fact terminate your parental rights. Do you
    understand that distinction?
    A. I understand.
    Q. You understand you're not giving up your right to
    fight about that second half, which is what we're
    going to do today. Do you understand that?
    A. Yes, I do.
    Q. You'll have all those same trial rights today for
    that second half. Do you understand that?
    A. Yes.
    ¶10    A.G.'s   arguments    arise      from    portions     of     this    plea
    colloquy he considers defective.             In particular, the circuit
    court   stated,   "[t]he    second   half   of     this   case   is     where    the
    [c]ourt decides is it in the child's best interest to in fact
    terminate your parental rights."             The court asked, "[d]o you
    understand that[?]"        A.G. responded "[y]es," but he now asserts
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    "the court did not inform him of the potential dispositions he
    faced if he entered a no contest plea."                 Specifically, he claims
    the   court       did    not   make   clear     that   it    had    two    options      at
    disposition:        grant the TPR petition or dismiss it.                   His second
    argument stems from the court explaining that during the grounds
    phase, A.G. "would have the right to force the State to prove
    the grounds by clear, convincing, and satisfactory evidence to a
    reasonable certainty."             The court later stated, "[y]ou'll have
    all those same trial rights today for that second half."                              A.G.
    argues the later statement implied the State would have a burden
    of proof that termination of his parental rights would be in the
    child's best interest at the disposition phase because that was
    one   of    the     "trial     rights"    identified    by    the    court      for   the
    grounds phase.
    ¶11     The       circuit   court   proceeded     to   ask    other       standard
    questions, confirming A.G. had spoken with his counsel about the
    plea.      The court then asked if A.G. had any questions, to which
    A.G. responded, "[n]o, I do not."                  A.G. also said he did not
    need more time to think about his decision, and he and his
    counsel both stated that the plea was knowing, voluntary, and
    intelligent.            After this lengthy colloquy, the court accepted
    A.G.'s no contest plea.
    ¶12     The next day, at disposition, A.G. testified in favor
    of reunification and continuation of the CHIPS case rather than
    termination.            Specifically, he testified, "[m]y goal in this
    case is to get myself better and have my daughter returned to
    the household."
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    ¶13     The circuit court concluded that termination of A.G.'s
    parental rights was in the child's best interest.                                      Twice, the
    court    referred       to        the   clear     and       convincing          standard.               In
    summarizing the testimony of the family case manager, the court
    characterized the testimony as "clear, convincing, satisfactory
    evidence to a reasonable certainty."                          Moments later, the court
    reiterated "[t]hat's clear, convincing, satisfactory evidence to
    a reasonable degree of certainty more or less.                                     I don't think
    there's case law that assigns a particular percentage to that
    standard,      and     I'm    not       either."        Continuing,            the     court          said
    "[the]       testimony        was       excellent. . . .                 [The       family            case
    manager]'s incredibly honest, and incredibly insightful."                                               At
    some    points,       the    court       used    language         indicative          of     a    lower
    standard,      e.g.,        "in    balance,       I    do    have       to    find         that       this
    termination is in the best interest of . . . [the child]."
    ¶14     Post    disposition,             A.G.    filed       a        motion        for        plea
    withdrawal,       which       the       circuit       court       denied        without          taking
    evidence.       The court reasoned A.G. did not identify a defect in
    the     plea    colloquy          and    therefore          was     not       entitled           to     an
    evidentiary hearing.               To the extent the colloquy did not convey
    potential       dispositions,            the      court       determined             the     lengthy
    discussion of potential dispositions at the adjourned initial
    appearance satisfied any requirement.                             Additionally, the court
    noted it "actually did use a clear and convincing standard when
    it    assessed    whether          it    thought       it   was     in       the   child's            best
    interest to terminate the parental rights."
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    ¶15    A.G.       appealed.          The    court     of    appeals      reversed       the
    circuit court's decision and ordered the cause remanded with
    directions        to    hold     an    evidentiary        hearing.        State      v.     A.G.,
    No. 2021AP1476, unpublished slip op., ¶1 (Wis. Ct. App. Feb. 15,
    2022).       The       court     of    appeals        concluded    that    "A.G.      was     not
    advised of the potential dispositions at the plea hearing" and
    had "alleged he did not understand the potential dispositions,"
    so he was entitled to an evidentiary hearing.                             Id., ¶12.           The
    court did not reconcile its conclusion with the circuit court's
    statement during the plea colloquy that "[t]he second half of
    this case is where the [c]ourt decides is it in the child's best
    interest to in fact terminate your parental rights."                                 The court
    of   appeals      also     concluded        the       circuit    court    needed      to     take
    evidence     regarding         A.G.'s       second       argument.        Id.,       ¶16.      It
    concluded the circuit court erred in suggesting A.G. would "have
    all those same trial rights today for that second half" because
    "[t]here     is    not     a    burden      of    proof    placed    on     the      State"    at
    disposition.            Id., ¶17 (citing 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2) (2019–
    20)).       The    court       of     appeals     never    considered       how      the    State
    actually     satisfying          the      clear    and    convincing      standard          might
    affect the analysis.
    ¶16    On        remand,      the    circuit       court    held    an      evidentiary
    hearing.      A.G. did not appear.3                    The hearing proceeded and the
    court reviewed the record.                      In a written decision, the court
    3The State and the GAL argue A.G. should have been held in
    default for not appearing.    We need not and therefore do not
    address this issue.
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    denied the motion, first noting A.G. had been informed during
    the plea colloquy that "at the disposition, the [c]ourt simply
    decides if it is in the child's best interest to terminate."                                   It
    also noted A.G. "had previously been informed of the potential
    outcomes" at the adjourned initial appearance.                           Importantly, the
    court found A.G.'s testimony at the dispositional hearing showed
    he   "understood"      the      potential         dispositions.           The     court       also
    reasoned, "[t]hroughout the disposition, the [c]ourt appears to
    have applied both the preponderance and the clear and convincing
    standards."            Accordingly,              it     reasoned,       A.G.          "was    not
    prejudiced[.]"
    ¶17     A.G. appealed, and the court of appeals reversed the
    circuit      court's      decision,         ordering       the    cause     remanded          with
    directions       to   allow      A.G.       to    withdraw       his    plea.         A.G.     II,
    No. 2022AP652, ¶1.             In the court of appeals' view, the State
    lacked evidence establishing the validity of the plea.                                        Id.,
    ¶25.
    II.     STANDARD OF REVIEW
    ¶18     This   court      generally            considers    precedent          regarding
    plea     withdrawal       in     the    context          of   criminal      cases        to    be
    persuasive authority regarding TPR proceedings.                                 See Waukesha
    County    v.     Steven    H.,       
    2000 WI 28
    ,      ¶42,     
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    ,           
    607 N.W.2d 607
     (citation omitted), modified on other grounds by St.
    Croix. Cnty. Dep't of Health & Hum. Servs. v. Michael D., 
    2016 WI 35
    , ¶¶3–4, 
    368 Wis. 2d 710
    , 
    880 N.W.2d 107
    .                              In a criminal
    case,     this    court     accepts         the       circuit     court's       findings       of
    historical fact unless they are clearly erroneous.                                Brown, 293
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    Wis. 2d 594, ¶19 (citing Trochinski, 
    253 Wis. 2d 38
    , ¶16).                       It
    then independently determines whether those facts demonstrate
    that the plea was knowing, intelligent, and voluntary.                       Brown,
    
    293 Wis. 2d 594
    , ¶19 (citing Trochinski, 
    253 Wis. 2d 38
    , ¶16).
    That same standard of review applies in this case.                      See Steven
    H., 
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42.
    III.    ANALYSIS
    ¶19   A.G.   argues   he    did    not     knowingly,    voluntarily,     and
    intelligently plead no contest as required by well-established
    precedent.      See Kenosha Cnty. Dep't Health Servs. v. Jodie W.,
    
    2006 WI 93
    , ¶24, 
    293 Wis. 2d 530
    , 
    716 N.W.2d 845
     (citing State
    v. Bangert, 
    131 Wis. 2d 246
    , 257, 
    389 N.W.2d 12
     (1986)).                          "A
    parent's interest in the parent-child relationship and in the
    care, custody, and management of his . . . child is recognized
    as a fundamental liberty interest protected by the Fourteenth
    Amendment [to the United States Constitution]."                    Steven V. v.
    Kelly H., 
    2004 WI 47
    , ¶22, 
    271 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    678 N.W.2d 856
     (citing
    Santosky v. Kramer, 
    455 U.S. 745
    , 753 (1982)).                     A parent who
    enters a no contest plea waives several important procedural
    rights meant to safeguard this liberty interest, which is why
    such a plea must satisfy the aforementioned standard.                     See Brown
    Cnty    Dep't   Hum.   Servs.      v.    Brenda    B.,   
    2011 WI 6
    ,     ¶34,   
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    , 
    795 N.W.2d 730
     (citing Jodie W., 
    293 Wis. 2d 530
    ,
    ¶25).
    ¶20   This court has established a burden-shifting scheme
    for TPR plea withdrawals.           First, a parent must demonstrate the
    circuit court failed to conduct the plea colloquy in accordance
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    with 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.422
     or failed to satisfy another mandatory
    duty.     
    Id.,
     ¶36 (citing Steven H., 
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42).                              The
    parent    must    also    allege     he    "did       not    know   or    understand      the
    information      that     should    have       been    provided[.]"          
    Id.
       (citing
    Steven H., 
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42).                     If the parent satisfies his
    burden,    the    circuit    court        is    generally      required      to    hold    an
    evidentiary hearing.           See Brown, 
    293 Wis. 2d 594
    , ¶40 (citing
    Bangert, 
    131 Wis. 2d at 274
    ).                       The State must demonstrate by
    clear     and    convincing        evidence          that    the    plea    was    entered
    knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently despite the defective
    colloquy.4       Brenda B., 
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    , ¶36 (citing Steven H.,
    
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42).             While a plea's validity is based on the
    parent's understanding at the time the plea was entered, events
    before and after the plea can inform a court's analysis.                                  See
    State     v.    Finley,     
    2016 WI 63
    ,        ¶44,    
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    ,         
    882 N.W.2d 761
    ; Bangert, 
    131 Wis. 2d at
    274–75.
    ¶21       We assume A.G. satisfied his burden.                      First, the court
    of appeals determined A.G. demonstrated the plea colloquy was
    defective; therefore, it ordered the circuit court to hold an
    evidentiary hearing.          Second, the circuit court acknowledged it
    imposed a burden of proof at disposition——even though no such
    burden exists.          We therefore consider whether the State proved
    4 The GAL argues the circuit court should be allowed to look
    at the full record in determining whether a parent has made a
    "prima facie case" for plea withdrawal. We do not address this
    issue because an evidentiary hearing was held in this case.
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    by clear and convincing evidence that A.G.'s plea was validly
    entered.
    ¶22    Notwithstanding      our         assumption,      we   nevertheless
    examine the plea colloquy because A.G. grounds his arguments in
    potential errors during it.        Understanding whether the record as
    a   whole   refutes     his    arguments        requires     scrutinizing      the
    colloquy.
    ¶23    Wisconsin   Stat.     § 48.422(7)(a)           provides:       "Before
    accepting an admission of the alleged facts in a [TPR] petition,
    the [circuit] court shall:        (a)        Address the parties present and
    determine    that     the     admission        is   made     voluntarily      with
    understanding of the nature of the acts alleged in the petition
    and the potential dispositions."             We assume a no contest plea is
    "an admission of the alleged facts[.]"              § 48.422(7).         A.G. does
    not argue the court failed to determine that he understood the
    acts alleged in the petition——he argues the court failed to
    inform him of potential dispositions.                 Although this statute
    requires a circuit court to "determine" that a no contest plea
    is entered "with understanding" of "the potential dispositions,"
    it does not require specific words be used.                   The statute also
    does not mention a burden of proof at disposition; however, the
    court of appeals has held:
    [I]n order for the court's explanation of potential
    dispositions to be meaningful to the parent, the
    parent must be informed of the statutory standard the
    court will apply at the second stage.    That is, the
    court must inform the parent that "[t]he best
    interests of the child shall be the prevailing factor
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    No.    2022AP652
    considered   by             the      court        in        determining         the
    disposition[.]"
    Oneida Cnty. Dep't of Soc. Servs. v. Therese S., 
    2008 WI App 159
    , ¶16, 
    314 Wis. 2d 493
    , 
    762 N.W.2d 122
     (quoting 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2) (2005–06)) (second modification in the original).
    A.    A.G. Understood His Parental Rights Could Be Terminated.
    ¶24    In    this     case,    the    circuit       court        seemingly      informed
    A.G.       of    potential       dispositions          as     required        by    
    Wis. Stat. § 48.422
    (7)(a).               During the plea colloquy, the circuit court
    explicitly explained "[t]he second half of the case is where the
    [c]ourt decides is it in the child's best interest to in fact
    terminate your parental rights."                       Essentially, A.G. contends the
    colloquy was defective because the court did not specify that
    "[t]he second half of the case is where the [c]ourt decides is
    it    in    the       child's    best       interest     to      in    fact   terminate         your
    parental rights or not."                    The omission of "or not," A.G. claims,
    makes the court's statement "somewhat ambiguous" by failing to
    explicitly         say    the    court       must     make    an      "either/or"        decision:
    either          terminate       the     parental       rights         or    dismiss      the     TPR
    petition.         A.G. claims he may have mistakenly believed the court
    at     disposition            could     order       something          between      terminating
    parental rights and dismissing the petition.
    ¶25    At    oral     argument,       A.G.'s        counsel       clarified       A.G.'s
    position regarding the content of the plea colloquy on potential
    dispositions:
    THE COURT:                  Which disposition did the court not
    review?
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    A.G.'s COUNSEL:    . . . [S]o at the plea hearing in
    this case, what the court said to
    A.G. is that during the disposition
    phase "the [c]ourt decides is it in
    the child's best interest to in fact
    terminate your parental rights."   I
    don't believe that statement conveys
    the potential dispositions in a TPR
    case. That statement does not convey
    to the parent that the court has two
    options.     And those options are
    basically all or nothing. Either the
    court terminates the parent's right
    or the court dismisses the petition.
    And the court did not specifically
    tell A.G. that those were the only
    two options that it had under the
    statute.
    THE COURT:        This feels like magic words to
    me. . . .    It   feels    like   you're
    asking circuit court judges to say
    magic words, to thread a needle with
    a really small eye. . . .        I just
    feel like your argument really has a
    lot of like, if the court doesn't say
    these exact words, then there's no
    way   the  parent    could    understand
    what's happening . . . .
    A.G.'s COUNSEL:   . . . .   [W]hat the court said here
    left            it            somewhat
    ambiguous. . . .   [A] parent hearing
    what the court said here could think
    that potentially there's some middle
    ground disposition where the court
    hears all the testimony and evidence
    at disposition and the court makes a
    decision to just hold this open for a
    length   of    time    to   let    the
    parent . . . get their life back on
    track.
    . . . .
    THE COURT:        So what do you want us to do about
    it? . . . . In an opinion, what are
    you asking us to say?   That courts
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    No.     2022AP652
    must list out, "I'm going to decide
    (1) whether  your  rights   will  be
    terminated; or (2) whether they will
    not be?"
    A.G.'s COUNSEL:         I believe there's cases interpreting
    the options that the court has
    indicating that a court has to tell a
    parent that it has to make one of two
    decisions in the case, terminate or
    dismiss the petition.
    . . . .
    THE COURT:              [I]f the court says, "there are two
    potential dispositions, grant the
    petition to terminate your parental
    rights or not grant your petition to
    terminate parental rights," that's
    not sufficient?
    A.G.'s COUNSEL:         No, I think that seems sufficient
    because its putting the case into the
    two options[.]
    ¶26   A.G.'s argument seems to be anchored in a misreading
    of Oneida County Department of Social Services v. Therese S.,
    
    314 Wis. 2d 493
    .         In that case, the court of appeals held, "a
    court must inform the parent that at the second step of the
    process, the court will hear evidence related to the disposition
    and then will either terminate the parent's rights or dismiss
    the    petition    if    the   evidence      does   not   warrant    termination."
    Id.,     ¶16.      In    reply,      the    State      references    Brown    County
    Department of Human Services v. Brenda B., 
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    .                        In
    that case, while discussing Therese S., this court held "the
    parent    must    be    informed     of    the   two   independent    dispositions
    available to the circuit court.                  That is, the court may decide
    between      dismissing        the   petition       and   terminating        parental
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    rights."          Id., ¶56.        A.G. argues the colloquy was defective
    because the circuit court did not precisely inform him of the
    two "independent dispositions."                  See id.
    ¶27     A.G. places far too much weight on a single sentence
    from Therese S., and he does not address Brenda B at all.                                 In
    Brenda      B.,    the   circuit        court    used     the    language    A.G.    would
    require of all circuit courts, specifically, "I can either grant
    the petition to terminate your parental rights or dismiss the
    petition to terminate your parental rights."                          Id., ¶12.          This
    court deemed that statement sufficient, distinguishing it from
    an insufficient explanation in Therese S., in which the circuit
    court said, "[you're] admitting the grounds for termination but
    still leaving open the question as to what's gonna happen, the
    disposition. . . .            [I]t      hasn't     been    decided    yet     what   we're
    going to do.          Your termination is not actually entered today.
    We   have    more    work   to     do    to     decide    what   to   do."        Id.,    ¶54
    (quoting Therese S., 
    314 Wis. 2d 493
    , ¶14).                       The circuit court's
    statement in A.G.'s case is more like the sufficient statement
    from Brenda B. because it informed A.G. that at disposition the
    court may decide to terminate A.G.'s parental rights, or, by
    negative implication, may decide not to terminate his rights.
    "[I]s it in the child's best interest to in fact terminate your
    parental rights" strongly implies a binary, yes/no, either/or
    decision.         The court described the dispositional options for
    A.G. with greater clarity than in Therese S., in which that
    court       rather       vaguely        communicated        that      an     unspecified
    disposition would be forthcoming after additional work.
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    No.     2022AP652
    ¶28   In Brenda B., this court emphasized that a circuit
    court   need    not       "inform       parents   in    detail      of    all    potential
    outcomes" because that requirement would be "unduly burdensome"
    and potentially "confuse or mislead rather than . . . inform."
    
    Id.,
        ¶¶55–56      (quoting       Therese       S.,    
    314 Wis. 2d 493
    ,           ¶17).
    Although this court said "the parent must be informed of the two
    independent dispositions available to the circuit court," this
    court never suggested that a failure to state the potential
    dispositions         in      explicit         either/or          terminology            would
    automatically       render     a    plea     colloquy     defective.             Id.,    ¶56.
    Imposing such a requirement would conflict with our longstanding
    rejection of requiring circuit courts to utter "magic words" to
    satisfy statutory commands.
    ¶29   "Magic words" is a colloquial phrase in legal parlance
    describing a party's request to prioritize form over substance.
    This court strongly disfavors magic words.                       See, e.g., State v.
    Lepsch,      
    2017 WI 27
    ,       ¶36,     
    374 Wis. 2d 98
    ,            
    892 N.W.2d 682
    (rejecting in the context of a circuit court inquiring about
    juror     bias);      State        v.     Wantland,     
    2014 WI 58
    ,       ¶33,     
    355 Wis. 2d 135
    ,        
    848 N.W.2d 810
            (rejecting        in    the       context    of
    withdrawing consent under the Fourth Amendment to the United
    States Constitution).              In Brenda B., this court rejected the
    parent's argument that the plea colloquy was defective for not
    explicitly informing the parent that the parent was waiving a
    "constitutional" right:                 "the [circuit] court need not explain
    that the right to parent is a constitutional right.                                What is
    important     is    that    the     parent    understands        the     import     of    the
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    No.      2022AP652
    rights   at    stake      rather      than     the    source     from    which     they    are
    derived."          
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    ,         ¶46.      In    this    case,     the    record
    confirms A.G. understood the "stake[s]."
    ¶30       Based on the foregoing, we doubt the plea colloquy was
    defective      for       not    explicitly          explaining     the    two      potential
    dispositions.            We    need    not,    however,       make    that    call.        The
    procedural posture of this case allows for a narrower holding.
    The circuit court held an evidentiary hearing and found A.G.
    understood potential dispositions based on his testimony at the
    dispositional hearing, which was conducted the day after the
    plea colloquy.            The court's finding is not clearly erroneous;
    therefore, we accept it as true.                       See Brown, 
    293 Wis. 2d 594
    ,
    ¶19 (citing Trochinski, 
    253 Wis. 2d 38
    , ¶16).                          Additionally, the
    court noted the thorough overview of TPR proceedings the court
    had provided at the adjourned initial appearance predating the
    plea colloquy.           During the colloquy, both A.G. and his counsel
    represented        to    the    court        that    A.G.    was     entering      the    plea
    knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently.
    ¶31       Although not relied upon by the circuit court, during
    the plea colloquy A.G. confirmed he read the TPR petition, which
    made exceedingly clear that his parental rights were at stake.
    In State v. Taylor, a criminal defendant was told he faced a
    potential six-year term of imprisonment if he pled, when in fact
    he faced a total of eight years.                       
    2013 WI 34
    , ¶¶2, 38–39, 
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , 
    829 N.W.2d 482
    .                  He was sentenced to six years after
    pleading      no    contest.          Id.,    ¶3.      This    court     held,     "on    this
    record, a failure to discuss the additional two-year repeater
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    No.    2022AP652
    penalty      enhancer      at    the   plea        hearing       is    an    insubstantial
    defect."       Id., ¶34.           The court emphasized, "[t]he record is
    replete" with evidence that the defendant "was aware" of the
    potential term of imprisonment, largely based on a complaint
    filed on May 8, 2009, which the defendant said he read and
    understood during the plea colloquy on August 23, 2010.                                     Id.,
    ¶¶35–39.      This court reasoned, "[t]o conclude that Taylor was
    not aware of the maximum eight-year term of imprisonment, we
    would have to assume . . . .                 that Taylor misrepresented to the
    court     that      he     had     received,        read,        and     understood         the
    complaint[.]"        Id., ¶39.         We presume A.G. answered truthfully
    when    he   said    he     read     the    TPR     petition,          which    is     titled:
    "Petition for Termination of Parental Rights[.]"
    ¶32   Additionally, A.G. confirmed during the plea colloquy
    that he had spoken with his counsel about the plea.                                  The court
    then asked if A.G. had any questions, to which A.G. responded,
    "[n]o, I do not."           A.G. also denied needing more time to think
    about his decision.             In his concurrence in Taylor, Justice David
    T.     Prosser      noted,       "[t]here      is       a     very      high       likelihood
    that . . . [the            defendant]'s           attorney . . . explained                  the
    meaning      of    eight     years     of     imprisonment[.]"                 Taylor,       
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , ¶83 n.5 (Prosser, J., concurring).                          Similarly, it is
    improbable        A.G.'s    counsel        neglected        to   tell       A.G.     that   his
    parental rights could be terminated.                         We reject A.G.'s first
    argument     because       the     record     as    a       whole,     before        the    plea
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    No.   2022AP652
    colloquy,   during   the   colloquy,   and   after,   confirms   A.G.
    understood the potential dispositions when he entered his plea.5
    5 The point the concurrence tries to make is unclear,
    considering its analysis of A.G.'s first argument mirrors our
    own. We "assume" A.G. made a prima facie case. Supra, ¶21. So
    does the concurrence but it "add[s]" a "caveat":               "[t]he
    briefing on this point was not especially helpful.          With the
    benefit of fuller assistance from the parties, it may be that
    our hands are tied in some way." See Concurrence, ¶¶42, 43 n.1.
    We then state the issue as follows:      "whether the State proved
    by clear and convincing evidence that A.G.'s plea was validly
    entered."    Supra, ¶21.    The concurrence introduces the issue
    using   nearly    identical   language:       "whether    the   State
    demonstrated by clear and convincing evidence that the plea was
    knowing, voluntary, and intelligent."      Concurrence, ¶42.     Both
    opinions express skepticism that an error occurred in the
    colloquy. Compare supra, ¶30 ("[W]e doubt the plea colloquy was
    defective for not explicitly explaining the two potential
    dispositions."), with concurrence, ¶43 n.1 ("[O]n both issues,
    the evidence of a facial deficiency in the plea colloquy was
    weak at best[.]").     Both opinions examine the full record and
    determine A.G.'s first issue is without merit. See concurrence,
    ¶44 ("The lead opinion recites additional evidence from the
    record both before and after the plea that I agree may be
    considered.    This evidence erases any doubt that the potential
    dispositions were sufficiently communicated, and by implication,
    sufficiently    understood,   when  A.G.    entered    his   plea.").
    Inexplicably, the concurrence rationalizes its unwillingness to
    join this opinion's analysis on the first issue by complaining
    about "inconsistencies" it never identifies.
    The concurring justices disserve the people of Wisconsin by
    blocking a clean precedential decision on A.G.'s first argument
    without cause.   Arguments analogous to A.G.'s are recurring in
    Wisconsin; our guidance in this important area of law is needed.
    See generally State v. S.S., Nos. 2022AP1179 & 2022AP1180,
    unpublished slip op., ¶19 (June 7, 2023) ("Relying on Therese
    S., S.S. asserts that the circuit court's colloquy must convey
    to the parent that there are only two legal outcomes at a
    dispositional hearing:     termination of parental rights or
    dismissal of the TPR petitions.").     Not a single justice who
    refuses to join any portion of this opinion even attempts to
    point out any flaw in our analysis of A.G.'s first argument;
    nevertheless, only one justice joins it.    See dissent, ¶55 ("I
    focus solely on A.G.'s second argument[.]").      "[I]t is this
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    No.   2022AP652
    B.   Assuming A.G.'s Reading of the Plea Colloquy Is Reasonable,
    the Burden of Proof Error Was an Insubstantial Defect.
    ¶33   We also reject A.G.'s second argument regarding the
    burden of proof at the dispositional hearing.6    As a preliminary
    court's function to develop and clarify the law." State ex rel.
    Wis. Senate v. 
    Thompson, 144
     Wis. 2d 429, 436, 
    424 N.W.2d 385
    (Wis. 1988) (citations omitted).    "Part of our obligation as
    supreme court justices is to take complicated legal issues and
    decide them in a way that simplifies and explains them." State
    v. Branter, 
    2020 WI 21
    , ¶42, 
    390 Wis. 2d 494
    , 
    939 N.W.2d 546
    (Roggensack, C.J., concurring).      The concurrence does not
    fulfill this obligation.    If a justice deprives the public of
    clear precedent, a straightforward, coherent explanation of why
    is warranted.     Doing so not only serves the public but
    facilitates a resolution of any disagreements for the purpose of
    establishing clear precedent. We do not sit as seven courts of
    one but as one court of seven (or in this case six). See, e.g.,
    Friends of Frame Park, U.A. v. City of Waukesha, 
    2022 WI 57
    , ¶3,
    
    403 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    976 N.W.2d 263
    .
    6The concurrence contradicts itself in analyzing A.G.'s
    second argument.    First, the concurrence says:     "Procedurally,
    the question before us concerns step two:        whether the State
    demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence that the plea was
    knowing, voluntary, and intelligent. This is because the court
    of appeals previously determined A.G. made the prima facie
    showing and was therefore entitled to an evidentiary hearing."
    Concurrence,   ¶42   (citing   State   v.   A.G.,   No. 2021AP1476,
    unpublished slip op., ¶21 (Wis. Ct. App. Feb. 15, 2022)). Next,
    the concurrence asserts, "A.G.'s argument rests on the premise
    that   the   most  reasonable    reading . . . [of   the   colloquy
    transcript] is that the circuit court communicated a clear and
    convincing evidence burden of proof would apply at the
    disposition. But the circuit court never said that." Id., ¶47.
    If the circuit court "never said that," then A.G. did not make a
    prima facie case.      Although on the first issue we express
    skepticism as to whether A.G. made a prima facie case, we do not
    resolve the issue because there is no need to do so.
    Considering the record as a whole avoids the inconsistencies
    undermining the analysis set forth in the concurrence, which
    confusingly    considers    "step    two"    notwithstanding    the
    concurrence's implication that A.G. never made a prima facie
    case. Additionally, the concurrence cites no authority for the
    proposition that A.G.'s reading needs to be "the most
    reasonable." Finally, A.G.'s reading of the colloquy, in light
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    No.     2022AP652
    matter, A.G. correctly argues 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2) does not
    impose a burden on the State to prove that termination is in the
    child's best interests.7             The statute provides only that "[t]he
    best       interests   of   the     child   shall    be   the   prevailing    factor
    considered by the court in determining the disposition of all
    proceedings       under     this    subchapter."          § 48.426(2).       We   are
    unaware of any Wisconsin decision analyzing whether the evidence
    regarding the best interests of the child must meet a particular
    burden.         See    State   v.    L.J.,       Nos. 2017AP1225,   2017AP1226      &
    2017AP1227, unpublished slip op. ¶21 (Wis. Ct. App. May 1, 2018)
    of the entire record, appears pretty reasonable considering the
    circuit court referenced the clear and convincing standard at
    disposition and later acknowledged it in fact applied that
    standard.
    The dissent claims "[t]his is a debatable conclusion."
    7
    Dissent, ¶58 n.3.    It cites three foreign state supreme court
    decisions, one of which merely noted, "the clear and convincing
    standard might be constitutionally mandated" at disposition.
    See B.T.B. v. V.T.B., 
    472 P.3d 827
    , 838 n.11 (Utah 2020)
    (emphasis added).     The dissent also quotes a South Dakota
    Supreme Court decision, which misquoted a United States Supreme
    Court decision, Santosky v. Kramer, as follows:       "The trial
    court must find by 'clear and convincing evidence that
    termination of parental rights is in the best interests of the
    child.'"     In re D.H., 
    354 N.W.2d 185
    , 188 (S.D. 1984)
    (attributing the quote to Santosky v. Kramer, 
    455 U.S. 745
    (1982); citing In re S.L., 
    349 N.W.2d 428
     (S.D. 1984); In re
    S.H., 
    323 N.W.2d 851
     (S.D. 1982)).    That quote does not appear
    in Santosky.     The South Dakota decision placed two other
    decisions in the string citation, but neither of those decisions
    contain the quote either. The dissent also cites a nearly two-
    decade old student-authored law review comment.     See Brian C.
    Hill, Comment, The State's Burden of Proof at the Best Interests
    Stage of a Termination of Parental Rights, 2004 U. Chi. Legal
    Forum 557, 576–84.    A Westlaw search reveals this comment has
    never been cited in a legal opinion.
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    No.   2022AP652
    ("L.J. identifies no case in which a determination of the best
    interests of the child has been analyzed in terms of whether the
    burden   of     proof   has   been   satisfied. . . .    The    legislature
    imposed no burden of proof in the statute, and the determination
    of the child's best interests does not turn              on distinctions
    between levels of proof.").          The "polestar" at a dispositional
    hearing is simply the best interests of the child.                Brenda B.,
    
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    , ¶33 (quoting Sheboygan Cnty. Dep't of Health &
    Hum. Servs. v. Julie A.B., 
    2002 WI 95
    , ¶30, 
    255 Wis. 2d 170
    , 
    648 N.W.2d 402
    ).
    ¶34     Regardless, A.G.'s second argument fails under Taylor,
    
    347 Wis. 2d 30
     (majority op.).             Although this court emphasized
    the defendant knew, based on the record, that he faced eight
    years, it also emphasized, "in any event, . . . [the defendant]
    was verbally informed by the court at the plea hearing of the
    sentence        that     he      actually       received. . . .         [The]
    sentence . . . did not exceed the six-year term of imprisonment
    that the court, at the plea hearing, specifically informed him
    that he could receive."        Id., ¶¶39, 42; see also id., ¶28 ("[A]t
    the plea hearing, the circuit court verbally informed . . . [the
    defendant] of the six-year term of imprisonment to which he was
    ultimately sentenced.         As a result, . . . [the defendant]'s plea
    was entered knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily, and it
    was   not   a   violation     of . . . [the    defendant]'s    due   process
    rights to deny his motion to withdraw his no contest plea.");
    id., ¶52 ("[T]he circuit court informed . . . [the defendant]
    that he could receive a maximum term of imprisonment of six
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    No.     2022AP652
    years. . . .           [The    defendant]    received          a    six-year       term    of
    imprisonment.           In other words, . . . [the defendant] received a
    sentence that he was verbally informed he could receive.").
    ¶35     In Taylor, quoting an earlier decision of this court,
    this court explained that "[r]equiring an evidentiary hearing
    for every small deviation from the circuit court's duties during
    a plea colloquy is simply not necessary for the protection of a
    defendant's constitutional rights."                Id., ¶33 (quoting State v.
    Cross, 
    2010 WI 70
    , ¶32, 
    326 Wis. 2d 492
    , 
    786 N.W.2d 64
    ).                                   As
    noted     in     that     earlier     decision,        not     every       "insubstantial
    defect[]"——i.e., technical legal error——renders a plea invalid.
    Cross, 
    326 Wis. 2d 492
    , ¶32.
    ¶36     Like the defendant in Taylor, A.G. received what the
    circuit court told him he would receive; the State was held to a
    burden of proof the law does not require, but the State met that
    burden.        At disposition, the court explicitly referenced the
    clear and convincing standard.                In denying the motion for plea
    withdrawal without an evidentiary hearing, the court explained,
    "[t]he [c]ourt actually did use a clear and convincing standard
    when it assessed whether it thought it was in the child's best
    interest       to      terminate     the    parental         rights."           After     the
    evidentiary hearing, the court noted in its written decision
    that    it     seems    to    have   held   the   State       to    both    a     clear   and
    convincing       and     a    preponderance       of     the       evidence       standard.
    Regardless, the court emphasized the State satisfied the higher
    clear and convincing standard, as expressed in the dispositional
    hearing transcript.             The mere fact the court also stated "in
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    balance" termination was in the best interests of the child does
    not   show    the    court    applied    a    burden      lower      than     clear   and
    convincing evidence.          A.G. was not inhibited from weighing the
    pros and cons of entering this particular no contest plea by
    being told the State would have to satisfy a particular burden
    of proof because the State was actually held to and did satisfy
    that burden.8
    ¶37    Our    holding   regarding       the   burden      of    proof    argument
    presupposes       that   events   subsequent        to    the   plea    colloquy      can
    illuminate whether a plea was entered knowingly, voluntarily,
    and intelligently.        In State v. Finley, this court explained the
    State     "bore    the   burden   of    proving,     by    clear      and   convincing
    8The dissent complains we are "importing a harmless error
    standard[.]"   Dissent, ¶70.    Not so.    Although the dissent
    mischaracterizes our holding as "A.G. did not know the statutory
    standard that applies at the dispositional phase," 
    id.,
     we
    actually hold he did know the standard this particular circuit
    court would apply——because the court applied the standard it
    said it would.    Accordingly, as in Taylor, the error did not
    render the plea unknowing, unintelligent, or involuntary. 
    2013 WI 34
    , ¶¶41–42, 
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , 
    829 N.W.2d 482
    .      A harmless
    error analysis would instead consider whether and to what extent
    the information provided at the plea colloquy caused A.G. to
    enter a plea he would not otherwise have entered. Cf. State v.
    Barnes, 
    2023 WI 45
    , ¶29, __ Wis. 2d __, 
    990 N.W.2d 759
    .    We do
    not hold that A.G. would surely have entered a no contest plea
    regardless of the information he received during the plea
    colloquy.
    Due process is not a game of gotcha to be sprung on the
    State.    A.G. benefitted from the circuit court holding his
    opponent, the State, to a burden of proof the law did not
    require the State to meet. A.G. claims he considered this when
    weighing the pros and cons of pleading.      To permit him to
    withdraw his plea at this stage would make a mockery of a very
    serious TPR proceeding.
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    No.     2022AP652
    evidence,"        that        a    criminal      defendant        "knew       the    potential
    punishment he faced . . . at the time of the plea acceptance."
    
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    , ¶44 (emphasis added).                      Our holding in this case
    is consistent with Finley.                   A.G. claims he knew, at the time of
    the plea acceptance, the State would be required to satisfy the
    clear and convincing standard.                    The State was then held to that
    standard even though it did not apply.                            The error could have
    been consequential, but it became insubstantial when the circuit
    court       actually     held       the   State      to   the    clear      and     convincing
    standard.         Given this subsequent development, A.G.'s knowledge
    at the time of the plea permitted him to accurately weigh the
    pros       and   cons    of       entering    this    specific        plea.         However   he
    calculated the odds of a favorable outcome at disposition, to
    the extent his calculation depended on the State being held to
    the clear and convincing standard, he calculated correctly.                                   Had
    the    State      not    satisfied        this    burden        and   the     circuit    court
    nonetheless terminated A.G.'s parental rights, we might have a
    different case.9
    The dissent contends this court in Finley held Taylor has
    9
    no relevance as applied to cases in which an evidentiary hearing
    was held.    Dissent, ¶67.   A fair reading of Finley does not
    support the dissent's assertion.
    In Finley, a criminal defendant was told the maximum
    statutory punishment was lower than it actually was and then
    sentenced to more time than he was told he would face. 
    2016 WI 63
    , ¶10, 
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    , 
    882 N.W.2d 761
    .   The question facing
    this court was one of remedy:     the State argued the sentence
    should be commuted, but the defendant sought plea withdrawal.
    
    Id.,
     ¶¶9–10.   After an evidentiary hearing, the State conceded
    the defendant "did not know the potential punishment he faced
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    No.   2022AP652
    IV.     CONCLUSION
    ¶38     We    hold   that      A.G.       knowingly,   voluntarily,      and
    intelligently pled no contest to the continuing CHIPS ground for
    terminating his parental rights.                 The circuit court found A.G.
    demonstrated he understood potential dispositions                    through his
    testimony at the dispositional hearing, which was conducted one
    day after the plea colloquy.               Based on the record, the court's
    findings      are   not    clearly     erroneous.        Although     the   court
    mistakenly imposed a clear and convincing evidentiary burden on
    the   State    in   determining      whether     terminating   A.G.'s     parental
    rights was in the child's best interests, the court actually
    held the State to that burden and concluded it was met.                        The
    court's     mistake   therefore      was    an    insubstantial   defect.      The
    court of appeals erred in permitting A.G. to withdraw his plea.
    when he entered his plea."      Id., ¶85.   This court held the
    defendant was entitled to withdraw his plea. Id., ¶95.
    Although this court in Finley noted that "no evidentiary
    hearing was needed" in Taylor, it did not suggest Taylor has no
    bearing on a case in which one has been held. See id., ¶84. If
    Finley does stand for the proposition the dissent suggests, it
    is simply wrong.      See id., ¶153 (Ziegler, J., dissenting)
    ("There is a principle present in . . . Taylor——namely, that
    incorrect or insufficient knowledge about an aspect of a plea
    does not necessarily invalidate the entire plea[.]").
    In this case, an evidentiary hearing was held, in which the
    circuit court reiterated that it actually applied the clear and
    convincing standard, which has facilitated our review. The mere
    fact that one was held, however, does not render the defect
    somehow more serious; rather, the record of the evidentiary
    hearing demonstrates why the defect was insubstantial.
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    No.   2022AP652
    By the Court.——The decision of the court of appeals is
    reversed.
    31
    No.   2022AP652.bh
    ¶39    BRIAN HAGEDORN, J.                (concurring).                A.G. argues that
    the no-contest plea he entered in his termination of parental
    rights      (TPR)     proceeding       was         not     knowing,          voluntary,      and
    intelligent for two independent reasons.                         First, he asserts the
    circuit court failed to advise him of the possible dispositions
    that it could enter after accepting his plea.                                   Second, A.G.
    contends     the    circuit      court    failed          to    explain        the    statutory
    standard it was required to apply at the dispositional phase of
    the TPR proceeding.         Neither argument wins the day.
    ¶40    Contested TPR proceedings involve a two-step process:
    (1) a fact-finding hearing to determine if "grounds exist for
    the termination of parental rights," and (2) the dispositional
    hearing where the circuit court determines whether the rights
    should in fact be terminated.                See 
    Wis. Stat. §§ 48.424
    , 48.427.
    Here, A.G. pled no-contest that grounds existed to terminate his
    parental rights.          On appeal, he contends that his plea at the
    grounds phase was not knowing, voluntary, and intelligent based
    on   what    he    was    told   (or     not       told)       about    the     dispositional
    hearing.
    ¶41    We     analyze      whether           A.G.    can     withdraw          his    plea
    utilizing a two-step process.                      Waukesha County v. Steven H.,
    
    2000 WI 28
    , ¶42, 
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , 
    607 N.W.2d 607
    , modified on
    other grounds by St. Croix Cnty. Dep't of Health & Hum. Servs.
    v.   Michael        D.,   
    2016 WI 35
    ,           ¶¶3-4,       
    368 Wis. 2d 170
    ,     
    880 N.W.2d 107
    .        First, the parent "must make a prima facie showing
    that the circuit court violated its mandatory duties and he must
    allege      that    in    fact    he     did       not     know        or     understand     the
    1
    No.   2022AP652.bh
    information that should have been provided at the" hearing.                       
    Id.
    This   prima      facie   showing    will   generally    focus     on    the     plea
    colloquy itself to determine whether certain requirements were
    not followed.         See State v. Clark, 
    2022 WI 21
    , ¶¶13-16, 
    401 Wis. 2d 344
    , 
    972 N.W.2d 533
     (explaining the defendant's burden).
    Second, if the defendant makes this showing, the burden shifts
    to the State to demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence
    that even given the facial deficiencies, the parent's plea was
    knowing,      voluntary,      and     intelligent.           Steven       H.,     
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42.         This usually involves the consideration of
    additional evidence at a hearing.             State v. Hoppe, 
    2009 WI 41
    ,
    ¶47,   
    317 Wis. 2d 161
    ,     
    765 N.W.2d 794
    .       At   this       stage,    the
    circuit court considers all new evidence along with "the entire
    record"      to   ascertain    if    the    parent's    plea      was     knowing,
    voluntary, and intelligent.          Steven H., 
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42.
    ¶42   Procedurally,     the    question   before      us   concerns       step
    two:      whether the State demonstrated by clear and convincing
    evidence that the plea was knowing, voluntary, and intelligent.
    This is because the court of appeals previously determined A.G.
    made the prima facie showing and was therefore entitled to an
    evidentiary hearing.          State v. A.G. (A.G. I), No. 2021AP1476,
    unpublished slip op., ¶21 (Wis. Ct. App. Feb. 15, 2022).                          The
    State did not challenge this decision, and the case was remanded
    back to the circuit court for a hearing.                That's when the case
    transformed into something of a unicorn.             A.G. did not appear at
    the scheduled evidentiary hearing, so neither his testimony nor
    any other testimony was introduced.              Instead, the State moved
    2
    No.    2022AP652.bh
    into evidence all the transcripts in the case and relied on the
    transcripts alone to argue that it had proven A.G.'s plea was
    knowing,        voluntary,      and   intelligent.            The    circuit      court
    concluded       the   State   satisfied       its   burden,    but    the    court    of
    appeals reversed and remanded with instructions to permit A.G.
    to withdraw his plea.            State v. A.G. (A.G. II), No. 2022AP652,
    unpublished slip op., ¶25 (Wis. Ct. App. July 12, 2022).                              We
    granted review of this second appeal.
    ¶43      Our review involves an examination of substantially
    the same transcript evidence that the court of appeals had when
    it concluded A.G. made the initial prima facie case.                            But at
    this stage, we must independently determine whether the plea was
    knowing, voluntary, and intelligent.                  Hoppe, 
    317 Wis. 2d 161
    ,
    ¶45.       Thus, even though the court of appeals may have had much
    of the same evidence available to it when it determined A.G.
    made a prima facie case, our standard of review suggests we can
    come       to   a   different    legal    conclusion     when        conducting      our
    independent analysis under step two.1
    I add one caveat to this conclusion, however.
    1                                                  The
    briefing on this point was not especially helpful.   With the
    benefit of fuller assistance from the parties, it may be that
    our hands are tied in some way.
    The dissent seems to think so when it employs a law-of-the-
    case rationale to A.G.'s second argument.    But on both issues,
    the evidence of a facial deficiency in the plea colloquy was
    weak at best, and the broader plea withdrawal claim even weaker
    when the full spectrum of evidence in a stage two analysis is
    considered.   Given our standard of review, I don't understand
    why the conclusion that A.G. made a prima facie case——reached by
    a lower court in a different appeal focusing primarily on the
    plea colloquy alone——should transform into a binding conclusion
    for a higher court considering more evidence and conducting an
    independent review of whether the State met its burden.
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    No.   2022AP652.bh
    ¶44    Turning     to   this     analysis,        A.G.   first     contends      the
    circuit court failed to advise him of the possible dispositions
    of the proceeding consistent with 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.422
    .         See
    § 48.422(7)(a) (providing the circuit court must "determine that
    the      admission      is      made      voluntarily           with      understanding
    of . . . the potential dispositions").                    And to enter a knowing,
    voluntary, and intelligent plea the defendant must be informed
    that the court can either dismiss the petition or terminate
    parental rights.        See Brown Cnty. Dep't of Hum. Servs. v. Brenda
    B., 
    2011 WI 6
    , ¶56, 
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    , 
    795 N.W.2d 730
    ; see also
    
    Wis. Stat. § 48.427
    (2), (3).              As I read the record, the circuit
    court did so when it said that during the dispositional phase,
    it would decide if it was "in the child's best interest to in
    fact   terminate     [A.G.'s]         parental     rights."        The    lead    opinion
    recites      additional      evidence     from     the    record    both       before   and
    after the plea that I agree may be considered.                           This evidence
    erases       any   doubt       that     the       potential      dispositions           were
    sufficiently       communicated,         and      by   implication,        sufficiently
    understood, when A.G. entered his plea.                    Accordingly, I conclude
    the State proved by clear and convincing evidence that A.G.'s
    plea was knowing, voluntary, and intelligent with respect to the
    possible dispositions of the TPR proceeding.
    The lead opinion is equally unclear.   While it seems to
    agree we can come to an independent conclusion on A.G.'s first
    argument, it criticizes this opinion for applying the same
    analytical approach to A.G.'s second argument.      Given the
    inconsistencies in the lead opinion and the potential for
    confusion, I do not join its analysis.
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    No.    2022AP652.bh
    ¶45       A.G. also argues the circuit court failed to explain
    the     statutory     standard     it    was    required     to     apply     to     the
    dispositional phase.          Wisconsin Stat. § 48.422 does not directly
    require     disclosure      of   this    standard   when     the    circuit        court
    accepts     a    no-contest      plea.     However,   a    published        court     of
    appeals decision states that "the parent must be informed of the
    statutory standard the court will apply at the second stage" "in
    order for the court's explanation of potential dispositions to
    be meaningful."           Oneida Cnty. Dep't of Soc. Servs. v. Therese
    S.,   
    2008 WI App 159
    ,      ¶16,    
    314 Wis. 2d 493
    ,       
    762 N.W.2d 122
    .
    Wisconsin Stat. § 48.426 states that the standard is the "best
    interests of the child"; no burden of proof is specified.
    ¶46       A.G.'s argument on this point relies on a strained
    reading of the record.            The circuit court explained during the
    plea colloquy for the grounds phase that A.G. would be giving up
    a variety of trial rights, including "the right to force the
    state     to      prove    the    grounds      by   clear,        convincing,        and
    satisfactory evidence to a reasonable certainty."                         The circuit
    court later communicated that during the dispositional phase,
    the court would determine whether it is "in the child's best
    interest to in fact terminate your parental rights."                       And in the
    dispositional phase, A.G. would still have his trial rights.                          In
    other words, A.G. was not giving up his trial rights in the
    dispositional phase by pleading in the grounds phase.
    ¶47       A.G.'s argument rests on the premise that the most
    reasonable reading of this exchange is that the circuit court
    communicated a clear and convincing evidence burden of proof
    5
    No.   2022AP652.bh
    would apply at the dispositional phase.                     But the circuit court
    never said that.        The circuit court merely said that standard
    applied "to prove the grounds."                   When it pivoted to explaining
    the   dispositional       phase,        the       circuit      court    followed      the
    statutory language and explained that it would render a decision
    based on the best interests of the child.                        Sure, the circuit
    court could have been a bit more precise.                      But the record shows
    A.G. was informed ten months before entering his plea that in
    the second phase of the TPR proceeding, the focus shifted to
    what was in the child's best interest.                         Thus, reviewing the
    record    independently    and     as    a       whole,   in   the     face   of   A.G.'s
    argument    that   he   was   incorrectly           informed      of    the    statutory
    standard governing the dispositional hearing, the State met its
    burden to prove by clear and convincing evidence that A.G.'s
    plea was knowing, voluntary, and intelligent.2
    ¶48   For these reasons, I respectfully concur.
    ¶49   I am authorized to state that Justice JILL J. KAROFSKY
    joins this concurrence.
    2The lead opinion concludes the same, but rests its
    conclusion in part on the basis that the circuit court held the
    State to the clear and convincing standard during the
    dispositional phase. Like the dissent, I do not understand why
    that would be relevant to whether the State proved that A.G.'s
    plea was knowing, voluntary, and intelligent.
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    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    ¶50    REBECCA        FRANK      DALLET,         J.    (dissenting).                 The
    Constitution requires that pleas be knowingly, intelligently,
    and voluntarily entered.                  State v. Bangert, 
    131 Wis. 2d 246
    ,
    257,    
    389 N.W.2d 12
               (1986).      Accordingly,          when       we    evaluate
    whether a plea met that constitutional standard, we must focus
    on what the person entering the plea knew "at the time of the
    plea acceptance."            See State v. Finley, 
    2016 WI 63
    , ¶44, 
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    , 
    882 N.W.2d 761
    .                   The lead opinion fails at this
    basic   task,       focusing       instead     on   what     A.G.       knew    many    months
    before entering his plea and on what happened after.                              Worse yet,
    if the lead opinion's approach were adopted, it would upset our
    well-settled approach to plea-withdrawal claims in the process.
    Because I conclude that A.G. is entitled to withdraw his plea, I
    respectfully dissent.
    I
    ¶51    The    State        petitioned       to   terminate        A.G.'s       parental
    rights to his daughter.                Termination of parental rights (TPR)
    cases    implicate         parents'       fundamental        right       to     raise    their
    children, see Santosky v. Kramer, 
    455 U.S. 745
    , 753 (1982), and
    are    thus   "among        the    most     consequential          of    judicial        acts,"
    involving     "'the        awesome    authority         of   the     State       to     destroy
    permanently          all      legal         recognition         of        the         parental
    relationship.'"            Steven V. v. Kelley H., 
    2004 WI 47
    , ¶21, 
    271 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    678 N.W.2d 856
     (quoting Evelyn C.R. v. Tykila S.,
    
    2001 WI 110
    , ¶20, 
    246 Wis. 2d 1
    , 
    629 N.W.2d 768
    ).                                     For that
    reason, numerous statutory and constitutional protections apply
    in TPR cases.
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    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    ¶52      These protections apply at each of the two phases of a
    TPR case.        The first or "grounds" phase concerns whether one or
    more of the statutory grounds for termination of parental rights
    enumerated in 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.415
    (1)-(10) exist.                            See Kenosha
    Cnty. Dep't of Human Servs. v. Jodie W., 
    2006 WI 93
    , ¶10 n.10,
    
    293 Wis. 2d 530
    ,           
    716 N.W.2d 845
    .           At     this      phase,    the
    Constitution requires "fundamentally fair procedures," including
    a hearing and proof by the State1 of the grounds for termination
    by clear and convincing evidence.                    Santosky, 
    455 U.S. at 748, 753-54
    .      The second or "dispositional" phase concerns "whether
    it    is   in    the    child's      best    interest      to    terminate      parental
    rights."        Jodie W., 
    293 Wis. 2d 530
    , ¶10 n.10.                  At this phase,
    "[t]he parent has the right to present evidence and be heard,"
    and   if     "'the     evidence      does   not     warrant     the   termination       of
    parental     rights,'"        then   the    court    may   dismiss       the   petition.
    Evelyn       C.R.,      
    246 Wis. 2d 1
    ,          ¶23    (quoting         
    Wis. Stat. § 48.427
    (2)).
    A
    ¶53      In this case, A.G. pleaded no contest at the grounds
    phase,     effectively        conceding     the   State's       allegation     that    his
    daughter was a child in need of protection or services (CHIPS)——
    one of the statutory grounds for termination of parental rights.
    See 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.415
    (2).                 This was a meaningful concession,
    since it meant A.G. was giving up his constitutional right to
    Counties may also file TPR petitions, but for simplicity I
    1
    will refer to the petitioner as the State throughout this
    opinion.
    2
    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    hold the State to its burden of proving that he was an unfit
    parent by clear and convincing evidence.                         See Evelyn C.R., 
    246 Wis. 2d 1
    ,       ¶22    (explaining       that       at    the   grounds         phase    "the
    parent's rights are paramount").                    To ensure that he understood
    the important rights he was waiving, the circuit court conducted
    a    colloquy     before    accepting         A.G.'s       plea.         See     
    Wis. Stat. § 48.422
    (7);      see     also    Brown       Cnty.     Dep't    of      Human    Servs.    v.
    Brenda B., 
    2011 WI 6
    , ¶34, 
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    , 
    795 N.W.2d 730
     ("A
    parent   who     chooses    to        enter   a    no     contest      plea     during   [the
    grounds] phase is giving up valuable protections and must have
    knowledge of the rights being waived by making the plea.").
    ¶54   During that colloquy, the circuit court explained what
    it called A.G.'s "trial rights" during the grounds phase.                                Those
    included the right to a trial before the court or a jury to
    determine       whether    grounds       to       terminate      his     parental       rights
    existed.     At that trial, the circuit court said "[A.G.] would
    have a whole bunch of rights," including:                           (1) "the right to
    force the State to prove the grounds by clear, convincing, and
    satisfactory evidence to a reasonable certainty;" (2) "the right
    of   cross-examination           of    your    witnesses;"         (3)    "the     right    to
    introduce evidence;" (4) "the right to compel witnesses to come
    to court and testify;" and (5) "the right to testify . . . or
    remain   silent,       knowing,        though,      that    silence       be     [sic]   used
    against you in this kind of case."                    After A.G. confirmed that he
    understood those "trial rights," the circuit court then told
    A.G. about the dispositional phase:                       "[t]he second half of the
    case is where the [c]ourt decides is it in the child's best
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    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    interest to in fact terminate your parental rights."                              At that
    phase, the circuit court said, A.G. would have "all those same
    trial rights."
    ¶55    A.G.    argues     that       there    were     two    defects     in   this
    colloquy.       First, he asserts that the circuit court did not
    inform him of the two potential outcomes of the dispositional
    phase——granting the petition and terminating his parental rights
    or dismissing the petition.2                 See § 48.422(7)(a) (requiring the
    circuit court, before entering a plea, to ensure it is made
    "with      understanding    of    .     .     .   the    potential    dispositions").
    Second, A.G. contends that at the time of his plea, the circuit
    court did not inform him of the correct statutory standard that
    applies at the dispositional phase.                      See Oneida Cnty. Dep't of
    Soc.       Servs.    v.   Therese       S.,       
    2008 WI App 159
    ,     ¶16,    
    314 Wis. 2d 493
    , 
    762 N.W.2d 122
     (holding that before accepting a no-
    contest plea to grounds, the circuit court "must inform the
    parent that '[t]he best interests of the child shall be the
    prevailing factor considered by the court in determining the
    disposition.'" (quoting 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2))).                            According to
    If the circuit court terminates parental rights, it "may
    2
    exercise   several    alternatives   for   designating   custody,
    guardianship, and care of the child."            Brenda B., 
    331 Wis. 2d 310
    , ¶52.      Nevertheless, the availability of those
    alternatives depends on the circuit court first determining that
    termination of parental rights is in the best interests of the
    child.    
    Id.
        Accordingly, the circuit court complies with
    § 48.422(7)(a)'s    directive    to   address    "the   potential
    dispositions" so long as it identifies      "the two independent
    dispositions available to the circuit court. That is, the court
    may decide between dismissing the petition and terminating
    parental rights." Id., ¶56.
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    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    A.G.,     the    correct       statutory       standard         that   applies       at     the
    dispositional phase is simply the best interests of the child,
    and "
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2) . . . does not set a burden of proof
    level."        During the plea colloquy, however, the circuit court
    indicated that the State would have the burden of proving by
    clear and convincing evidence at the dispositional phase that
    termination of his parental rights was in his daughter's best
    interest.        As a result, A.G. contends that his plea was not
    knowingly,       intelligently,         and    voluntarily        entered.          I     focus
    solely on A.G.'s second argument because it is dispositive.
    B
    ¶56        To understand why A.G. should be permitted to withdraw
    his plea on this basis, it is first necessary to review the
    legal framework for plea-withdrawal claims and the procedural
    history of this case.             State v. Bangert, 
    131 Wis. 2d 246
    , 274-
    75, 
    389 N.W.2d 12
     (1986) provides the framework for evaluating
    whether A.G. is entitled to withdraw his plea.                                  See Waukesha
    County    v.    Steven    H.,    
    2000 WI 28
    ,   ¶42,   
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    ,         
    607 N.W.2d 607
    , modified on other grounds by St. Croix Cnty. Dep't
    of Health & Human Servs. v. Michael D., 
    2016 WI 35
    , ¶¶3-4, 
    368 Wis. 2d 170
    , 
    880 N.W.2d 107
    .                  Bangert and our subsequent plea-
    withdrawal cases set forth a two-step approach.                           First, a plea-
    withdrawal       motion    "is    reviewed          by    the    court"     to     determine
    whether it "establishes a prima facie violation of . . . court-
    mandated       duties    and    makes    the       requisite     allegations,"          namely
    that "the defendant did not know or understand the information
    that should have been provided at the plea hearing."                                State v.
    5
    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    Brown, 
    2006 WI 100
    , ¶¶39-40, 
    293 Wis. 2d 594
    , 
    716 N.W.2d 906
    .
    If    the    motion        clears    that       hurdle,        the     second         step    is     an
    evidentiary hearing "at which the state is given an opportunity
    to show by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant's
    plea    was     knowing,          intelligent,           and    voluntary             despite      the
    identified inadequacy of the plea colloquy."                            
    Id.,
     ¶40
    ¶57    When     A.G.       moved    to    withdraw        his    plea,         the    circuit
    court initially denied his motion without an evidentiary hearing
    because it "actually did use a clear and convincing standard
    when it assessed whether it thought it was in the child's best
    interest to terminate the parental rights."                            In other words, the
    circuit court concluded that A.G.'s motion did not satisfy the
    first    step    of        Bangert——making           a   prima       facie      case        for    plea
    withdrawal——because            even       if    A.G.       wasn't       told          the    correct
    statutory standard that applies at the dispositional phase, the
    circuit       court        ultimately       applied        the       clear-and-convincing-
    evidence standard that it said it would.
    ¶58    The court of appeals reversed, holding that A.G. was
    not informed of the correct statutory standard that applies at
    the    dispositional          phase       because        "contrary         to    the        [circuit]
    court's statement, at the dispositional hearing, the 'same trial
    rights' do not apply.               There is not a burden of proof placed on
    the State."           State v. A.G., No. 2021AP1476, unpublished slip
    op., ¶17 (Wis. Ct. App. Feb. 15, 2022) (emphasis added).                                          Thus,
    the court of appeals held that the correct statutory standard
    that    applies       at    the     dispositional         phase       is     simply         the    best
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    interests of the child, with no burden on any party.3                      See 
    id.
    Accordingly, the court of appeals concluded that A.G.'s motion
    made a prima facie case for plea withdrawal and that he was
    entitled    to   an   evidentiary     hearing   on     remand     to     determine
    whether    his   plea   was    knowing,     intelligent,     and        voluntary,
    despite    the   information    he   received   regarding        the     statutory
    standard that applies at the dispositional phase.                Id., ¶22.
    ¶59     Before    discussing     what   happened    at   the       evidentiary
    hearing, it is important to emphasize that the State did not
    appeal from this decision by the court of appeals.                    And for that
    3  This is a debatable conclusion. To be sure, 
    Wis. Stat. § 48.426
    (2) does not contain a burden of proof. It merely states
    that "[t]he best interests of the child shall be the prevailing
    factor considered by the court in determining the disposition."
    
    Id.
     That being said, the State is the petitioner in this case.
    As such, the State must——at a minimum——produce some evidence of
    the best interests of the child at the dispositional phase.
    Otherwise, the petition would have to be denied.        Moreover,
    given the weighty constitutional rights at play in TPR cases,
    other courts have held that the Constitution requires proof that
    termination is in the child's best interest by a preponderance
    of the evidence or clear and convincing evidence.    See Kent K.
    v. Bobby M., 
    110 P.3d 1013
    , 1021-22 (Ariz. 2005) (holding that
    due process requires proof of the child's best interests by a
    preponderance of the evidence); In re D.H., 
    354 N.W.2d 185
    , 188
    (S.D. 1984) (stating that "[t]he trial court must find by clear
    and convincing evidence that termination of parental rights is
    in the best interests of the child" (quoting another source));
    see also In re B.T.B., 
    472 P.3d 827
    , 838 n.11 (Utah 2020)
    (explaining that, in the context of the best-interest-of-the-
    child inquiry, "the clear and convincing standard might be
    constitutionally mandated"); Brian C. Hill, Comment, The State's
    Burden of Proof at the Best Interests Stage of a Termination of
    Parental Rights, 
    2004 U. Chi. Legal F. 557
    , 576-84 (arguing that
    the Fourteenth Amendment, as interpreted by the United States
    Supreme Court in Santosky, requires proof of the best interests
    of the child by clear and convincing evidence). Nevertheless, as
    discussed below, the question of whether there is a burden of
    proof at the dispositional phase is not before us.
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    reason,      the   court   of    appeals'        conclusion     that     the   correct
    statutory standard that applies at the dispositional phase is
    the best interests of the child with no burden on any party is
    the law of the case.            The law of the case is "a 'longstanding
    rule' that requires courts to adhere to an appellate court's
    ruling on a legal issue 'in all subsequent proceedings in the
    trial court or on later appeal.'"                 State v. Jensen, 
    2021 WI 27
    ,
    ¶13, 
    396 Wis. 2d 196
    , 
    957 N.W.2d 244
     (quoting State v. Stuart,
    
    2003 WI 73
    ,        ¶23, 
    262 Wis. 2d 620
    , 
    664 N.W.2d 82
    ).                       Although
    there are exceptions to the law of the case, none of them apply
    here.4       Accordingly,       we   need       not   decide    what     the    correct
    statutory standard is at the dispositional phase; instead, we
    must adhere to the court of appeals' holding that the standard
    is the best interests of the child with no burden on any party.
    And   that    means   that      to   determine        whether    A.G.'s     plea   was
    knowing, intelligent, and voluntary, we have to evaluate whether
    the State proved by clear and convincing evidence at the Bangert
    hearing that, at the time he entered his plea, A.G. knew that
    standard.
    4Those exceptions apply when "'a controlling authority has
    since made a contrary decision of law' on the same issue," "when
    the evidence at a subsequent trial is 'substantially different'
    than that at the initial trial; and when following the law of
    the case would result in a 'manifest injustice.'"     Jensen, 
    396 Wis. 2d 196
    , ¶13, n.8 (quoting Stuart, 
    262 Wis. 2d 620
    , ¶24).
    Because the court of appeals' conclusion that there is no
    burden of proof on the State at the dispositional phase is the
    law of the case, I do not address the guardian ad litem's
    argument that the court should hold that the burden is clear and
    convincing evidence.
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    ¶60    A.G.    did    not    appear    at    the    Bangert     hearing        and    no
    witnesses were called to testify.                   Instead, the State relied on
    the transcript of A.G.'s plea hearing, as well as transcripts of
    prior and subsequent hearings in the case.                        See Steven H., 
    233 Wis. 2d 344
    , ¶42 (explaining that at a Bangert hearing "a court
    may examine the entire record, not merely one proceeding, and
    look at the totality of the circumstances to determine" whether
    the plea was constitutionally sufficient).                      The sole question is
    whether       this   evidence       clearly       and    convincingly         demonstrates
    that,    at    the    time   he     entered       his   plea,   A.G.    knew        that    the
    statutory standard that would apply at the dispositional phase
    was the best interests of the child with no burden on any party.
    ¶61     The plea colloquy indicates that he did not.                           During
    that colloquy, the circuit court described a different standard.
    The court explained that A.G.'s "trial rights" at the grounds
    phase included "the right to force the State to prove grounds by
    clear,    convincing,        and     satisfactory       evidence     to   a     reasonable
    certainty."          And then the circuit court said that A.G. would
    have "those same trial rights" at the dispositional phase.                                   In
    other words, the circuit court told A.G. that the State would
    have to prove the best interests of the child by clear and
    convincing evidence.               But that is not the statutory standard
    that    applies      at   the      dispositional        phase   under     the       court    of
    appeals' prior ruling in this case.                     Thus, A.G.'s plea colloquy
    was defective.
    ¶62     The remaining evidence falls far short of showing, let
    alone    clearly      and    convincingly,          that   A.G.    knew       the    correct
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    statutory standard that would apply at the dispositional phase
    despite the defective plea colloquy.                Indeed, the only evidence
    that even suggests that A.G. knew the correct standard is a
    transcript of a hearing ten months before his plea.                                  At that
    hearing,       the   circuit    court   explained        that       the   dispositional
    phase "focus[es] on what outcome is best for the kids that are
    involved,"      and that "everybody gets to put on testimony and
    evidence and argue to [the court] what they think is best for
    the kids that are involved," before the circuit court made the
    ultimate determination of "what outcome is best for the kids."
    This    ten-month-old       transcript       describes        the   best-interest-of-
    the-child standard and does not reference a burden of proof on
    any party.
    ¶63     Given that A.G. received conflicting information at
    these    two    hearings,      the   State    failed     to    prove      by    clear    and
    convincing evidence that, at the time he entered his plea, A.G.
    knew the statutory standard that applies at the dispositional
    phase.        To conclude otherwise would be absurd, since we would
    have to assume that A.G. ignored or disregarded the information
    he received from the circuit court during the plea colloquy in
    favor    of    different    information       he   was    told       once      ten    months
    earlier.       Additionally, common sense tells us that people forget
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    things they were told ten months earlier.5                That is especially
    true when a non-lawyer is advised about the details of legal
    proceedings he is facing and with which he is likely unfamiliar.
    For these reasons, the State failed to prove that A.G. knew the
    statutory standard that applies at the dispositional phase, and
    he is therefore entitled to withdraw his plea.               See Finley, 
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    , ¶95 (explaining that when the State fails to meet
    its burden of proof at a Bangert hearing, the movant is entitled
    to withdraw his plea).
    C
    ¶64    The lead opinion tries to justify a different result
    by relying on our decision in State v. Taylor, 
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    .
    In that case, a criminal defendant was told during his plea
    hearing that he could be sentenced to a maximum of six years of
    imprisonment.      Id.,    ¶16.        In   fact,   the   maximum     potential
    sentence   was   eight    years   of   imprisonment.        Id.      After   the
    defendant was sentenced to the six years of imprisonment, he
    5  For this reason, I similarly question the lead opinion's
    reliance on this same ten-month-old transcript (and related
    factual findings by the circuit court) in rejecting A.G.'s
    alternative argument that he is entitled to withdraw his plea
    because the circuit court failed to advise him of the potential
    dispositions.   See lead op., ¶30.    Additionally, much of the
    other evidence the lead opinion cites in support of that
    conclusion is also suspect. For example, what A.G. knew the day
    after he entered his plea is at best a weak indication of what
    he knew when that plea was entered since people can learn new
    things from day to day.      See id.    And the lead opinion's
    speculation about what A.G.'s counsel might have told him before
    entering his plea is just that——speculation.      See id., ¶32.
    There is no evidence in the record about what A.G.'s counsel did
    or did not tell A.G.
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    moved to withdraw his plea, arguing that it was not knowingly,
    intelligently, and voluntarily entered because he did not know
    the maximum potential sentence.                         Id.,    ¶18.       The defendant's
    motion was denied without an evidentiary hearing.                             Id., ¶20.       We
    affirmed,    explaining         that        an     evidentiary         hearing         was   not
    required because the record was "replete with evidence" that the
    defendant, in fact, knew the maximum sentence he faced at the
    time he entered his plea.               See id., ¶¶35-39.                  In doing so, we
    emphasized       that    we    were     not        engaging      in    a     harmless-error
    analysis,    instead       reiterating           that    "the    focus      is    on    whether
    the . . . plea          was    entered           knowingly,        intelligently,            and
    voluntarily" in spite of any claimed error.                        Id., ¶41 n.11.
    ¶65     According to the lead opinion, A.G. is not entitled
    withdraw his plea because, "[l]ike the defendant in Taylor, [he]
    received what the circuit court told him he would receive."
    Lead op., ¶35.          That is because, as mentioned previously, the
    circuit    court    said      that    it    applied       the     clear-and-convincing-
    evidence standard at the dispositional phase.                           For this reason,
    the lead opinion concludes that "A.G. was not inhibited from
    weighing    the    pros       and    cons    of     entering       this      particular       no
    contest plea by being told the State would have to satisfy a
    particular burden of proof because the State was actually held
    to and did satisfy that burden."                   Id.
    ¶66     There       are   several       problems       with    the      lead    opinion's
    reliance    on     Taylor,      and    with        its    analysis         more    generally.
    First, Taylor was evaluating a different question than the one
    we are addressing in this case.                     Taylor concerned only whether
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    the defendant was entitled to an evidentiary hearing under the
    first    step       of     Bangert's      two-part       plea-withdrawal           framework.
    Taylor,      
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    ,       ¶42.       At    that    step,       the   court    must
    determine         only   whether     the   defendant's          motion      makes    a    prima
    facie showing of that the plea colloquy was defective and that
    he "did not, in fact, know or understand the information that
    should have been been provided during the plea colloquy."                                  Id.,
    ¶32.     If the defendant's motion makes that showing, the next
    step    is    an    evidentiary      hearing       at    which       "the   State    has    the
    burden       to    prove     by   clear    and     convincing         evidence      that    the
    defendant's plea, despite the inadequacy of the plea colloquy,
    was knowing, intelligent, and voluntary."                       Id.
    ¶67        In this case, unlike in Taylor, the court of appeals
    has already determined that A.G.'s motion made the prima facie
    case entitling him to an evidentiary hearing, and remanded for
    an evidentiary hearing.                A.G., No. 2021AP1476, at ¶22.                     And as
    explained previously, that decision was not appealed and the
    court    of       appeals'    conclusion      is       thus    the    law    of    the    case.
    Accordingly, the only question before us is whether the State
    met its burden at the evidentiary hearing of proving by clear
    and     convincing          evidence       that        A.G.'s     plea       was     knowing,
    intelligent, and voluntary.                Thus, Taylor's rule simply does not
    apply    to       A.G.'s     case.      Indeed,        we     distinguished        Taylor    on
    precisely these grounds in State v. Finley, 
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    .                                 In
    that case, we explained that Taylor does not apply when, as
    here, an evidentiary hearing was held on the plea-withdrawal
    motion.       Finley, 
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    , ¶¶82-85.
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    ¶68     Second, even if Taylor did apply, the lead opinion
    mischaracterizes its conclusion.                   Contrary to the lead opinion's
    assertions, Taylor did not conclude that whenever a defendant
    "receive[s] what the circuit court told him he would receive,"
    he is not entitled to withdraw his plea.                        See lead op., ¶35.
    Instead,       we   held   that     the      plea   in   that   case     "was   entered
    knowingly, intelligently, and voluntarily [because] the record
    makes clear that the defendant knew the maximum penalty that
    could be imposed and was verbally informed at the plea hearing
    of the penalty that he received."                    Taylor, 
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , ¶8;
    see     also     Finley,      
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    ,       ¶79    (describing      Taylor
    similarly).         Thus, the reason the defendant in Taylor wasn't
    entitled to withdraw his plea was because "the . . . record
    revealed that the defendant knew the potential punishment he
    faced    if     convicted"——not        because      he   received    a   sentence    the
    circuit        court   told     him     he     could     receive.          Finley,   
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    , ¶87.          This conclusion is in keeping with our other
    plea    withdrawal      cases,      which      likewise    focus    on     whether   the
    defendant's plea was knowing, intelligent, and voluntary based
    on the information he knew at the time he entered the plea.                          See
    id., ¶44.
    ¶69     The lead opinion, by contrast, looks only to events
    that occurred after A.G. entered his plea.                          To be sure, the
    State may rely on evidence from after a plea is entered to show
    that the plea was knowing, intelligent, and voluntary.                               See
    Taylor, 
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , ¶32; Bangert, 
    131 Wis. 2d at 269, 283
    .
    But that evidence still must demonstrate what A.G. knew at the
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    time he entered his plea.                    And here, the fact that the circuit
    court    held      the     State      to     a    heightened         burden     of     proof      at
    disposition        tells       us    nothing       about      what    A.G.     knew       when    he
    entered his plea.               Moreover, unlike in Taylor, where the plea
    questionnaire/waiver of rights form, information, and criminal
    complaint       all      demonstrated         what      the    defendant       knew       when    he
    entered his plea, here we have none of that.                                 See Taylor, 
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , ¶¶35-38.                 On the contrary, we have a description
    given once ten months before his plea that, under the law of the
    case, is correct.              And we have a different one given the day he
    entered      the    plea.           This     is   far       from    clear     and    convincing
    evidence     that       A.G.     knew      the    correct      statutory       standard         that
    applies at the dispositional phase.
    ¶70    Finally, although the lead opinion denies it, it is
    importing     a     harmless         error    standard        into    the     plea-withdrawal
    context.      See lead op., ¶36 n.8.                   That is the upshot of the lead
    opinion's          claims        that        "[t]he         error      could        have        been
    consequential,           but    it    became      insubstantial         when        the    circuit
    court    actually         held      the    State       to    the    clear     and    convincing
    standard,"        and    that       A.G.    "benefitted        from    the     circuit       court
    holding . . .           the State[] to a burden of proof the law did not
    require [it] to meet."                
    Id.,
     ¶¶36 n.8, 37.              In essence, the lead
    opinion      is    conceding         that     A.G.      did    not    know     the     statutory
    standard that applies at the dispositional phase, but arguing
    that    there      was    no     harm      because      the    State    was     held       to    the
    standard of proof the circuit court said it would apply.                                         The
    only reason we would care whether the circuit court did what it
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    No.     2022AP652.rfd
    said it would do, or whether someone benefitted from an error,
    is if we are evaluating whether they were harmed by that error.
    Yet, as Taylor said, our plea-withdrawal cases "clearly d[o] not
    engage in a harmless error analysis."                      
    347 Wis. 2d 30
    , ¶41.
    ¶71    Nevertheless, the lead opinion claims that it isn't
    doing a harmless-error analysis, since it does not "consider
    whether and to what extent the information provided at the plea
    colloquy caused A.G. to enter a plea he would not otherwise have
    entered."       
    Id.,
     ¶36 n.8 (citing State v. Barnes, 
    2023 WI 45
    ,
    ¶29, ___ Wis. 2d ____, 
    990 N.W.2d 759
    ).                        Doing that, in the lead
    opinion's      view,        would       be     evaluating      whether        an    error     was
    harmless.      See 
    id.
            But that is exactly what the lead opinion is
    doing.       It repeatedly asserts that A.G. "was not inhibited from
    weighing      the    pros     and       cons     of   entering       this     particular       no
    contest      plea"     by    the     information         he    received        in     the    plea
    colloquy,      and    that     his       "knowledge      at    the     time    of     the    plea
    permitted him to accurately weigh the pros and cons of entering
    this specific plea."               See id. ¶¶36-37.              Thus, the lead opinion
    is    in   fact      "consider[ing]            whether     and    to    what        extent     the
    information         provided       at    the     plea    colloquy"       affected           A.G.'s
    decision to plead no contest.                   See id., ¶36 n.8.
    ¶72    This approach, if taken seriously, would allow courts
    to    substitute      their     own          speculation      about    whether        someone's
    "knowledge at the time of plea permitted him to accurately weigh
    the    pros     and     cons        of       entering      this      specific        plea"     or
    "benefitted" from an error for the clear and convincing evidence
    of what he actually knew that our cases require.                                  Compare lead
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    No.    2022AP652.rfd
    op.,    ¶¶36     n.8,       37,    with      Finley,        
    370 Wis. 2d 402
    ,       ¶95.
    Thankfully, because the lead opinion fails to garner four votes,
    that approach is not our law.                 Because we should keep the focus
    in   evaluating       a    plea-withdrawal        motion     where   it     belongs——"on
    whether the . . . plea was entered knowingly, intelligently, and
    voluntarily"      in       spite   of   any       claimed    error——I       respectfully
    dissent.     See Taylor, 
    370 Wis. 2d 30
    , ¶41 n.11
    ¶73   I   am       authorized    to    state    that       Justice    ANN   WALSH
    BRADLEY joins this opinion.
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